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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Kind of like -- if I'm bad but good at it I'll just good to the hakf-way house, called purgatory, and only be singed instead of burned in hell if I was really bad. 
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| 3/30/2017 7:10:43 PM |
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indianadave1951
Mishawaka, IN
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John 13:35
By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.
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Me thinketh we need to practice the above scripture. We can disagree but in an agreeable manner.
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| 3/30/2017 7:39:36 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Me thinketh we need to love our Christian brethren as Jesus loved us. And by doing so expressing GODS truth as Jesus taught. Not confusing the unconvinced with "loaded intermediary indoctrination".
God so loved the world He gave His only begotten son that whomsoever shall believeth in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16
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| 3/30/2017 7:44:47 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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One crock some ministers utter is to say that Catholics don't believe in Jesus. But that one is so obviously false that only a few of them resort to it.
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| 3/30/2017 11:45:16 PM |
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indianadave1951
Mishawaka, IN
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One crock some ministers utter is to say that Catholics don't believe in Jesus. But that one is so obviously false that only a few of them resort to it.
Catholics beleive in Jesus. The big issue is Catholics petition Mary and other saints to petition Christ. Scripture states that Jesus is the ONLY intermediater between God and man. As holy as Mary, the Apostles and other saints were we are not instructed to use them as go betweens. We are to come boldly before the thrown of grace in order for the court of heaven to hear our legal cases. Jesus is our high preist: not men or angels.
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| 3/31/2017 12:49:49 AM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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We ask our friends to pray for us (intercessory prayer). We ask tge saints to pray for us (intercessory prayer). What's the difference?
The saints' prayers, like our friends' prayers, all go through Christ, so Christ (not Mohammed, Buddha, or other imposter) is still the One Mediator.
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| 3/31/2017 10:16:25 AM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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LUD, do you understand what you say you profess to understand? I'm confused by your previous post above this one. I'm trying to work it out.
Are you saying that if I asked you to remember me in prayer that that is the same thing as me praying to God in the name of Jesus Christ?
Help me understand exactly what you are meaning to say because I have a follow-up question and I certainly don't want to be asking it under an incorrect understanding.
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| 3/31/2017 11:23:23 AM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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If you ask me to pray for you, and if you ask St. Catherine of Alexandria or St. Philip Neri or St. Peter Claver to pray for you, it is all the same thing. My prayers go through Christ and so do the saints' prayers, so Jesus is still the One Mediator.
Direct prayers to the Father, Son, and/or Holy Spirit are also allowed.
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| 3/31/2017 12:50:32 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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I don't pray to anyone but God, Lud.
I pray to God in the name of Jesus Christ because I have accepted Jesus as my personal Savior. But I don't even have to do that. I can pray directly to God. He gave me permission. Amen.
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Here's my follow-up question...
Since my prayers go directly to God, instead of being filtered through any number of auxiliary routes, are my prayers more powerful than yours?
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Lud, it is not the same thing when I pray directly to God, and when I request prayer from other believers (I have even had non-believers pray for/with me --  ) it is not to make my prayer request appear to be more important but to ask for the concerted support of my fellow believers.
The Bible teaches that, Lud: strength in numbers. Just as the Bible teaches that a Christian is bonded closer to their faith by associating with a Christian community (church). It's kind of like the Alcohol or Drug Anon organizations (I believe). Support your brethren who are on the same path in order to remain strong and on the correct path.
Simplistic, I know, but I am a lay-person ---- I think, speak, and write to make myself understood to the ones who may not understand all the high-falutening thesaurus speaking would-be amateur theologians.
Lud, when one of my dogs was killed last year, I didn't call out to any family member, Saint Francis, or some other mother. I screamed: MY GOD!
When I have found myself near death (more than once) I have called upon my God, that His will be done. I didn't cry out for my mom -- I cried out: Oh God, My God!
Lud, God does answer prayer -- As He determines and in His own time. That answer may not be what we want but what He decides to do for the best. And we may become angry at GOD's ultimate answer to our prayer but we did ask God to answer, after all, so we must accept God's decision.
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Lud, many months ago I asked if I could pray for you. You said yes. I am still praying for you Lud.
My God is an awesome God and works in mysterious ways.
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| 3/31/2017 2:41:47 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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If you can ask fellow believers on earth to pray for you why can't you ask fellow believers in Heaven, the saints, to pray for you?
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| 3/31/2017 3:22:24 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Lud, you are missing the point -- intentionally -- as is your wont.
I don't ask folk to pray FOR me, I ask them to pray WITH me.
How old are you, again, Lud?
63?
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| 3/31/2017 3:34:10 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Yes, you can ask the saints to pray for you or with you.
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| 3/31/2017 7:14:25 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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I pray to God. 
You know what just occurred to me as I hit POST?
The difference between what I believe and what Lud says he believes is this:
I trust God.
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| 4/1/2017 6:02:08 PM |
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cupocheer
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Did LUD post something?
Get my drift?
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| 4/1/2017 9:37:39 PM |
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indianadave1951
Mishawaka, IN
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We ask our friends to pray for us (intercessory prayer). We ask tge saints to pray for us (intercessory prayer). What's the difference?
The saints' prayers, like our friends' prayers, all go through Christ, so Christ (not Mohammed, Buddha, or other imposter) is still the One Mediator.
These are living people that can agree in prayer for/with us. There is no communication allowed between the living and the dead.
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| 4/1/2017 9:45:36 PM |
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cupocheer
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Dave, I became a trifle concerned recently when I viewed one of you posts.
Allow me to ask you this, please.
You are aware that one grown female is a WOMAN (singular)
and
That two or more grown females is WOMEN (plural)?
Correct?
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| 4/2/2017 3:19:14 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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These are living people that can agree in prayer for/with us. There is no communication allowed between the living and the dead.
You are quite right.
But the souls in Heaven sre alive, not dead. God is not a God of the living, not the dead.
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| 4/2/2017 9:51:57 PM |
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indianadave1951
Mishawaka, IN
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You are quite right.
But the souls in Heaven sre alive, not dead. God is not a God of the living, not the dead.
Their bodies are dead. When Jesus said God is the God of the living he was acknowledging God's eternal nature. The dead in Christ will be reunited with their glorified bodies at the resurrection. Until that time all who have died in the past considered dead.
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| 4/2/2017 9:53:50 PM |
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a_nubian
Columbus, OH
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Their bodies are dead. When Jesus said God is the God of the living he was acknowledging God's eternal nature. The dead in Christ will be reunited with their glorified bodies at the resurrection. Until that time all who have died in the past considered dead.
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| 4/2/2017 10:36:23 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Jesus promised life eternal for His faithful followers. The souls in Heaven are very much alive and can be prayed to.
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| 4/4/2017 8:42:30 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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God promised eternal life when one accepted His son, Jesus Christ.
I pray to God in the name of Jesus Christ.
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| 4/4/2017 10:08:58 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Accepting Christ AND FOLLOWING AFTER HIM. "Oh, I believe in Jesus so I'm saved, I don't need to reform my life" won't cut it.
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| 4/5/2017 6:41:10 AM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Accepting Christ AND FOLLOWING AFTER HIM. "Oh, I believe in Jesus so I'm saved, I don't need to reform my life" won't cut it.
Don't be frivolous with your sarcastic ridicule, Lud. God is watching.
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| 4/5/2017 7:02:51 AM |
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ludlowlowell
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I don't think I was frivolous or sarcastic. Those who believe without repenting, those who believe and who do nothing to change their lives, those are being frivilous.
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| 4/5/2017 7:23:58 AM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Lud, you say you were a Methodist in your early life.
Did you "give your heart to Christ" while you was a Methodist?
Did your Methodist Church have services utilizing holograms?
Oh, and good morning.
Keep an eye on the weather -- it may be a rough ride today.
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| 4/5/2017 3:48:41 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Yes, I gave my heart to Jesus at Methodist youth summer camp, July 29, 1966. I was 13 at the time. I had an emotional experience at an altar call by the shore of the lake. We kuds were told that because we had this experience we were saved. (Never mind that on Sunday school we had always been taught that salvation was contingent on keeping the ten commandments.) We were taught that we were now filled with the Holy Spirit and, whenever we read the Bible, the Holy Spirit would tell us what it meant. (So why did I find out, on Sunday school and at Methodist Youth Fellowship, ten different Christians would have ten different interpretations of the Bible?) We were taught that, now that we were saved, we wouldn't even ever want to sin again. (I certainly quickly found out that that isn't so.)
I don't recall them ever using holograms.
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cupocheer
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So, LUD, at 13, not 17, you had an emotional response to an alter call.
When the adult "ministers of faith" verbally walked you through why you approached the alter and fell on your face in repentance and submission what did you tell them (him/her) you were doing?
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| 4/5/2017 4:49:24 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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I didn't tell them anything, nor did the other kids.
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| 4/5/2017 4:56:20 PM |
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cupocheer
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I am not addressing what occurred with other kids, LUD.
I am speaking of your personal experience.
Why did you feel compelled to approach the alter, LUD?
Didn't the "ministers" pray with you at the alter?
Did the "ministers" minister to you in any way at the alter?
Who told you you "were saved"?
What sin did you commit immediately after being told you were saved?
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| 4/8/2017 11:53:05 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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How about that "limbo" for dead babies that haven't been baptized?
Oops... FAILED on that one, Lud.
The Pope pulled the rug out from under you.
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| 4/9/2017 12:30:30 AM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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I believe in Limbo.
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| 4/11/2017 11:30:39 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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I thought you believed in the teachings of the Catholic Church?
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| 4/12/2017 5:40:52 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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"What is the biggest crock of hyperbole you've ever heard LUD utter?"
That's a tough one, Cup. There's so many crocks to choose from.
I have a LARGE text file of most of Lud's crocks. It's hard to choose. But these two are good:
"At Luke 10:16 Jesus teaches us that whoever rejects the pope rejects Jesus, and whoever rejects Jesus rejects God. Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation."
"The perpetual virginity of Mary, then, is an article of faith. To reject this doctrine would be the same as rejecting all the doctrines of the Church. To reject even one infallible doctrine of the Catholic Church sends the soul to Hell forever."
Imagine that! If you reject the alleged "infallible" Cathlick doctrine of Mary's alleged perpetual virginity, that will send your soul to Hell forever.
Wow!
Does Jesus or the bible say that? Of course not. Ludlow's religion is totally unscriptural and un-Jesusonian.
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| 4/12/2017 7:13:41 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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"...Gonna do the Limbo Rock...
All around the Limbo clock..."
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| 4/12/2017 7:29:41 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Speaking of the Limbo and how low can you go...
My, now 16 year old granddaughter, is a multiple limbo champion.
She took her first crown at a local street carnival, and her second crown at a roller skating rink competition.
She was born double-jointed in every joint. (medically verified)
She has been involved in many sports, and activities where this birth anomaly came in handy: modeling, dance, gymnastics, softball, cheer leading.
Because of her flexibility she can do a sideways split and go all the way to the floor, leans forward and lays her chest on the floor and lowers her head to look off to the side. It is the most incredible move I (and many others) have ever seen. [Yes, I have pics.]
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| 4/13/2017 10:24:34 AM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Let me tell you how I first heard about theological Limbo.
I was in the fourth grade when Chubby Chrcker's song "Limbo Rock" came out. The Limbo dance became hugely popular. I was sitting at my desk during a study period one day, and I guess my dictionary must have been on top of my books, so I picked it up and was thumbing through it, and I guess the Limbo Rock song was going through my head, so I looked up the word "limbo". According to the dictionary I had the definition of Limbo was, if I can quote it correctly from memory, "in Roman Catholic theology, a place of natural happiness where unbaptized infants go after death." At the time we were Methodists and I had a negative impression of the Catholic Church but this Limbo thing made sense to me and I believed in it even then. I might have been the only Protestant ten year old kid in the world who believed in Limbo.
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| 4/13/2017 4:49:11 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Let me tell you how I first heard about theological Limbo.
I was in the fourth grade when Chubby Chrcker's song "Limbo Rock" came out. The Limbo dance became hugely popular. I was sitting at my desk during a study period one day, and I guess my dictionary must have been on top of my books, so I picked it up and was thumbing through it, and I guess the Limbo Rock song was going through my head, so I looked up the word "limbo". According to the dictionary I had the definition of Limbo was, if I can quote it correctly from memory, "in Roman Catholic theology, a place of natural happiness where unbaptized infants go after death." At the time we were Methodists and I had a negative impression of the Catholic Church but this Limbo thing made sense to me and I believed in it even then. I might have been the only Protestant ten year old kid in the world who believed in Limbo.
The 4th grade, Lud? 
53 years ago, roughly?
You are basing your Catholic knowledge on something a dictionary stated more than 53 years ago??? I am absolutely astonished by your admission!
Lud, do you have any idea what the Catholic Church relates about LIMBO in this current mellinia!?!
Edited to change the word era to Millinia.
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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The 4th grade, Lud?
53 years ago, roughly?
You are basing your Catholic knowledge on something a dictionary stated more than 53 years ago??? I am absolutely astonished by your admission!
Lud, do you have any idea what the Catholic Church relates about LIMBO in this current mellinia!?!
Edited to change the word era to Millinia.
millennia
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| 4/16/2017 5:57:40 AM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Blessings
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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It is true that Limbo of the Children is really more of a theory than a doctrine. No pope or council has ever defined at as doctrine. But it was taught by St. Thomas Aquinas and was believed by most practicing Catholics until the 1960s, and is still believed by many. As I said, even as a Protestant ten-year-old I believed in it.
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| 4/16/2017 3:05:14 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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2005 Roman Catholic Church reversed it's stance on "limbo" and no longer teaches this doctrine.
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| 4/16/2017 3:58:30 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Please cite and quote the (papal?) document that says this.
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cupocheer
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ludlowlowell
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I googled "Limbo Catholic Church 2005" and found out that it was a papal theological commission, not the pope himself, who said that there is doubt about Limbo. Papal commissions are not infallible; only the pope, or all the bishops meeting in council, are infallible.
St. Thomas Aquinas, the greatest theologian in the history of the Church, said Limbo exists, and to me that carries more weight than a bunch of modern theologians.
These theologians show that they don't even know what Limbo is! The commission said, "People find it difficult to accept that God is just and merciful if he (sic) excludes infants, who have no personal sins, from eternal happiness." But Limbo IS a place of eternal happiness! The only difference between Heaven and Kimbo is that the souls in Limbo do not get to see God face to face.
It is my personal opinion---and I emphasize that it is an opinion only---that His only allows babies to die without Baptism that would have, had tgey grown up, lost their souls by sin and/or unbelief.
A couple of other things: one, since when do people dictate to God what God ought or ought not to do? Isn't it the other way around? Two, Heaven is a free unmerited gift, and God is under no obligation to give it to anybody. He would be unjust if He sent unbaptized babies to firey Hell or Purgatory, but He is notbunjust in denying them Heaven. Hence Limbo, where the souls live in great peace and happiness. Bigd, for instance, says that no human being ever goes to Heaven except Jesus Himself. Three, if Limbo does not exist, why has the Church always insisted that babies be baptized as soon as practical after birth? What would be the point?
But having said all this, Limbo has always been a theory, not a doctrine, and a Catholic can disbelieve it and still be a Catholic in good standing.
If you don't read or remember any of the above things I said, remember this---Limbo is a good and happy place. The souls there lack nothing and suffer no pain.
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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Ludlow says:
"If you don't read or remember any of the above things I said, remember this---Limbo is a good and happy place. The souls there lack nothing and suffer no pain."
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Limbo doesn't exist, but it's " a good and happy place."
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| 4/16/2017 4:54:39 PM |
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blake6972
Bunker Hill, WV
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Let me tell you how I first heard about theological Limbo.
I was in the fourth grade when Chubby Chrcker's song "Limbo Rock" came out. The Limbo dance became hugely popular. I was sitting at my desk during a study period one day, and I guess my dictionary must have been on top of my books, so I picked it up and was thumbing through it, and I guess the Limbo Rock song was going through my head, so I looked up the word "limbo". According to the dictionary I had the definition of Limbo was, if I can quote it correctly from memory, "in Roman Catholic theology, a place of natural happiness where unbaptized infants go after death." At the time we were Methodists and I had a negative impression of the Catholic Church but this Limbo thing made sense to me and I believed in it even then. I might have been the only Protestant ten year old kid in the world who believed in Limbo.
Hopefully the last part of what you stated is true.
Being, that "limbo" doesn't exist .
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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Hopefully the last part of what you stated is true.
Being, that "limbo" doesn't exist .
It does exist to someone who prays to concrete, wood, marble, steel statues and believes that idol heard them to relay such an important and vital message to Yahweh!!
Kind of like when you are out hunting and choose to piss in the wind and then ask yourself, how did I get all wet?
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Catholics do not oray to wood, marble, and steel. They pray to the people whom the statues represent. See Exodus 25:18-20.
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Idolaters
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Read Exodus 25:18-20, Cup.
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| 4/17/2017 5:47:35 AM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Exodus 20:4-6
King James Version (KJV)
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
hmmmm.... a whole litany of statements and questions arises, doesn't it?
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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The prohibition against graven images means that we are forbidden to make images of demons or false gods. Images of Jesus, Mary, saints, or angels is allowed---see Exodus 25:18-20.
Protestants are always bragging about the Bible and how they follow it. But when the Bible says there is an everlasting firey Hell (Lazarus-rich man parable, Revelation 20:10 and several other passages), or that Purgatory exists (1 Corinthians 3:13-15), or that Peter was the first pope (Matthew 16:18), or that sins should be confessed to priests (John 20:23 and James 5:16), or that saints can be prayed to (again the Lazarus-rich man parable), or that good works are necessary for salvation (James 2:17 , Matthew 25:34-46, the Lazarus-rich man parable, and many other passages), or that the Holy Eucharist is the literal Body and Blood of Christ (John 6:31-60, or that images of Jesus, Mary, the saints, and the angels is allowed (Exodus 25:18-20), Protestants go er, um, ahem, er, um, cough, cough.
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| 4/17/2017 11:51:42 AM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010
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Im a Protestant... I haven't developed an er,umm,aaaa,cough yet when BS and lies are dropped off by a false prophet, hypocrite, and heretic.
I begin praying for the habitual disobeyer of God's word that they not perish but come to the knowledge of understanding and accept Jesus Christ as their Savior. God will do the clean-up work.
Jesus taught me to pray for my brethern that they, too, might be saved from God's wrathful judgement.
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| 4/17/2017 1:04:28 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
64, joined Feb. 2008
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Catholic Church, founded by Jesus Christ. Protestantism, invented 1500 years later by Martin Luther.
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| 4/17/2017 1:16:19 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010
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Jesus Christ -- Life History Holy Bible
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010
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