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4uijack
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Still runnin' mama jokes!!

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I've never come across a person who wasn't, at least about some things or some point in their life, a hypocrite.
This includes myself.


I don't mind generalizations to a certain degree, but when they're used as an attack on a race, gender, religious group or sexual orientation...

That says more about the person making the generalizations than the group he/she is generalizing.

That is a hypocrisy in and of itself and it's not gender specific, I know men and women who do it.

Guilty conscience??

I have my fair things to feel guilty about, this topic is not one of them.

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Still runnin' mama jokes!!
pot meets kettle

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4uijack
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I understand why you n**gers are so hateful now, looking for a reason to die before you alls diseases take you out. You know, sorta like suicide by cop!

Die n**gers, DIE!!!!

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I understand why you n**gers are so hateful now, looking for a reason to die before you alls diseases take you out. You know, sorta like suicide by cop!

Die n**gers, DIE!!!!
you kiss your mom with that mouth

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4uijack
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No, but I f**k yours!!!

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Quote from dark_gable0585:
you kiss your mom with that mouth


He sure do and she kiss him with her cum filled mouth as well. Then they swap cum while kissing.

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No, but I f**k yours!!!
weak comeback...yo mama is disappointed

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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
He sure do and she kiss him with her cum filled mouth as well. Then they swap cum while kissing.
lol

6/22/2017 6:43:09 PM Generalizations, Guilty Consciences and Hypocrisy! | Page 2  

deaf_heart
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I agree that a generalization does not mean all. Though I do believe generalization should have a quantifier; such as typing words like most, many, or some prior to the group you are describing.
"A generalization is defined as a broad statement or an idea that applies to a group of people or things. Oftentimes, generalizations are not entirely true, because there may be examples of individuals or situations wherein the generalization does not apply."
Read more at http://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-generalization.html#AwOsFDJh5yGHTKEL.99

I disagree with your theory of guilt conscience. "noun. a feeling of guilt experienced by someone who is aware of having done something wrong." A rebuttal to your generalization is not often done by people who feel remorseful. It is typically because you do not quantify your generalization.

The only truth to your Hypocrisy theory is hidden in you last sentence when you type "while simultaneously doing THE SAME DAMN THING themselves."



[Edited 6/22/2017 6:43:44 PM ]

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Quote from gotheon123:





I don't mind generalizations to a certain degree, but when they're used as an attack on a race, gender, religious group or sexual orientation...

That says more about the person making the generalizations than the group he/she is generalizing.

That is a hypocrisy in and of itself and it's not gender specific, I know men and women who do it.

Guilty conscience??

I have my fair things to feel guilty about, this topic is not one of them.


Please forgive me for what I'm ABOUT to say. Bcuz the truth can sometimes hurt worse than being lied to...

1. Generalizations ARE NOT BASED ON YOUR FEELINGS OR YOUR EMOTIONS! What constitutes a generalization IS NOT BASED ON WHST YOU LIKE OR DON'T LIKE either! That's why I said "women DON'T have a problem with generalizations when they get PROPS,CREDITS and COMPLIMENTS!"

That makes you bias which totally destroys your credibility bcuz you're NOT interested in the truth but ONLY what pleases YOU &/or makes YOU happy. So any generalization made about a gender, race, lifestyle, etc that you DON'T like WILL BE taken as and labeled an ATTACK even if it's not giving you "The Power" to redefine in as YOU see fit.

2. So by saying, "That says more about the person generalizing than the group he/she referred to?" That's an attack in itself. And makes YOU no better than the one making the statement. That's called the "Flip back on you" tactic.

In elementary school it was "I'm rubber and you're glue whatever you say bounces off me and STICKS TO YOU!" But that has NOTHING to do with facts and the expectation of the majority. Its only bringing your feeling and emotions in to distort the truth and avoid responsibility.

ONLY guilty consciences are guilty of my points 1 and 2!

3. The definition of hypocrisy is... Condemning someone for doing the VERY THING YOUR DOING[/b%] and it STILL isn't about your likes or dislikes. If I make a "generalization about women and you FONT like it do you twist the meaning based on your feeling and condemn me... then make generalizations YOURSELF make you a hypocrite. Feel free to look up the meanings of ANY words or terms mentioned in this post.

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Quote from deaf_heart:
I agree that a generalization does not mean all. Though I do believe generalization should have a quantifier; such as typing words like most, many, or some prior to the group you are describing.
"A generalization is defined as a broad statement or an idea that applies to a group of people or things. Oftentimes, generalizations are not entirely true, because there may be examples of individuals or situations wherein the generalization does not apply."
Read more at http://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-generalization.html#AwOsFDJh5yGHTKEL.99

I disagree with your theory of guilt conscience. "noun. a feeling of guilt experienced by someone who is aware of having done something wrong." A rebuttal to your generalization is not often done by people who feel remorseful. It is typically because you do not quantify your generalization.

The only truth to your Hypocrisy theory is hidden in you last sentence when you type "while simultaneously doing THE SAME DAMN THING themselves."


Generalizations DOES apply to a group under the theory that "The majority RULES!"[/b%] Which means the group is labeled by the actions of the majority. Which AUTOMATICALLY MEANS there is a minority. Which is why you CAN'T use words like "some" or "msny!"

"Some" and "many" can mean any number from 5 out of 10 thousand to 200 out of 10 thousand and neither of which is the majority. And "most" could means 50.5 out of 100 which isn't definitive enough to generalize any.

So generalizations cover a definitive majority which leaves no doubt to what's being said. A good example would be...

"Mexicans are hard working ppl!" Obviously this isn't applying to them ALL! But it's a generalization based on what THE MAJORITY is seen doing on a daily basis. Not just by my "One Ass" or yours but by a multitude of ppl for it to be a known generalization.

Trying to control HOW someone generalizes by telling them which words to use before and after it is ONLY for your personal satisfaction. And just like I told the lively before you Generalization is NOT based on your feelings, emotions, likes or dislikes!

Bcuz if a generalization about WOMEN is giving credit, props and compliments they don't give RSTS A** how it's told or spoken and NOT ONE WOMEN would step forward and say "You can't say SLL women do that! You can't put that on ALL women!" So let's be real about baby. ??

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Quote from deaf_heart:
I agree that a generalization does not mean all. Though I do believe generalization should have a quantifier; such as typing words like most, many, or some prior to the group you are describing.
"A generalization is defined as a broad statement or an idea that applies to a group of people or things. Oftentimes, generalizations are not entirely true, because there may be examples of individuals or situations wherein the generalization does not apply."
Read more at http://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-generalization.html#AwOsFDJh5yGHTKEL.99

I disagree with your theory of guilt conscience. "noun. a feeling of guilt experienced by someone who is aware of having done something wrong." A rebuttal to your generalization is not often done by people who feel remorseful. It is typically because you do not quantify your generalization.

The only truth to your Hypocrisy theory is hidden in you last sentence when you type "while simultaneously doing THE SAME DAMN THING themselves."
where you underline the definition....you can't seriously agree on that because like the first sentence is that generalization is a broad statement...which is generally true to what the majority have analyzed

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deaf_heart
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First, let me say this ... I'm not your baby, nor anyone elses. You may adress me by my username, or Ma'am, or my given name if I have told you it. I respectfully request you do not adress me by pet names not afforded to be used by you from me.

Now to the real issue. Opening post asked if each individual who chose to read said post agreed or disagreed. I gave my answers and I gave reason as to why on two of them.
As for generalization, I said I believe you should quantify it. This belief stems from a person not wanting people to holler back that they are not that which is generalized. *which is typically gender bias remarks when made by you, dark, and Enig*

Some can be any percentage of a group from 3% to 50%, most can cover from 50.01% to 99.99%. Both say that you do not mean all, which you state you type later at some point anyways. So why not start it that way?
By telling you my belief, I am in no way trying to control your way of generalizing. I simply said I believe.



[Edited 6/22/2017 8:32:45 PM ]

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dark_gable0585
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Quote from deaf_heart:
First, let me say this ... I'm not your baby, nor anyone elses. You may adress me by my username, or Ma'am, or my given name if I have told you it. I respectfully request you do not adress me by pet names not afforded to be used by you from me.

Now to the real issue. Opening post asked if each individual who chose to read said post agreed or disagreed. I gave my answers and I gave reason as to why on two of them.
As for generalization, I said I believe you should quantify it. This belief stems from a person not wanting people to holler back that they are not that which is generalized. *which is typically gender bias remarks when made by you, dark, and Enig*

Some can be any percentage of a group from 3% to 50%, most can cover from 50.01% to 99.99%. Both say that you do not mean all, which you state you type later at some point anyways. So why not start it that way?
By telling you my belief, I am in no way trying to control your way of generalizing. I simply said I believe.
ok I see you saying that I'm being bias can you please explain why

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Quote from dark_gable0585:
where you underline the definition....you can't seriously agree on that because like the first sentence is that generalization is a broad statement...which is generally true to what the majority have analyzed
i dont follow what you are trying to say. Let me try ...

I cannot believe that a generalization is "not entirely true" because "generally" it is? So it isn't always true, but I can't believe that it isn't always true?

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@deaf it depends....are you saying that it isnt true based on your logical facts or you feel that it is not right?

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deaf_heart
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Quote from dark_gable0585:
ok I see you saying that I'm being bias can you please explain why
not being, as in prsently. I have seen you make many a biased and generalised statement about "women".

Bias is not just bad. It is a prejudice in favor of or against; usually in a way considered to be unfair.

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Quote from dark_gable0585:
@deaf it depends....are you saying that it isnt true based on your logical facts or you feel that it is not right?
neither. I said I AGREE that generalization does not mean all. I qualified it with my personal belief that one should quantify a generalization. *if they do not intend to ruffle feathers*

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@heart can you give me an example where I'm being bias

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@heart let's not kid ourselves....truth is supposed to set you free....it's not supposed to be sugarcoated and glamorous....truth would always ruffle feathers but it depends on ones reaction as to either make a rebuttal or spazed out

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You two niggas like ganging up on white women, don'tja?
Lame a** c*cksuckers!!

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@jack off....yo mom forgives you

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Quote from dark_gable0585:
profiting is a stereotype


True so what is it you find to be different about stereotyping and generalizing? To me they are the same and both removes our individuality and both are based on BS.

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Quote from 4uijack:
I understand why you n**gers are so hateful now, looking for a reason to die before you alls diseases take you out. You know, sorta like suicide by cop!

Die n**gers, DIE!!!!


Jack that's disappointing. I didn't realize you were so racist. I was giving you way more credit than I should have been, I suppose. Or is this just you trolling ?

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dark_gable0585
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Quote from cruesin:
True so what is it you find to be different about stereotyping and generalizing? To me they are the same and both removes our individuality and both are based on BS.
generalizing is a broad statement that is generally true to what the majority thinks on issues....stereotype is a negative connotation

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deaf_heart
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Quote from dark_gable0585:
@heart can you give me an example where I'm being bias
in the thread
"Hey Check Out The New Trend In Social Brainshing Bullshit!"
You said
because of lies like women in general do
and while you say "in general" in this generalization, it is still a biased opinion based on people you personally know.

And yes, I had to go look at your post to find it because it isn't like I keep notes or tabs on people I am not a parent of.

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@heart I didn't say all so it isn't biased....actually there are studies that women lied in their relationships more than men

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deaf_heart
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@dark. Bias is not typically quantified. Bias is a tendency to favor one point of view over another, often in an unfair way. Bias can be a personal opinion or a more public opinion.

You, in you post, have a tendency to favor the opinion that women, in general, are money grubbing and backstabbing hoes.

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@heart there is a difference between in general and all...i didn't say all if that's what you're inferring

6/22/2017 11:23:57 PM Generalizations, Guilty Consciences and Hypocrisy! | Page 2  

deaf_heart
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Not once did I infer you said all. In fact, all three that I mentioned earlier will come back at a later point in the increasingly heated discussion and type out "I didn't say "all" women." Which is why I am also of the belief that you three, as well as others, generalize to do nothing but ruffle feathers for no other reason than to see if the subject matter gets ruffled.

And yes truth can ruffle feathers, but so can lies.

6/23/2017 12:16:16 AM Generalizations, Guilty Consciences and Hypocrisy! | Page 2  

dark_gable0585
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Quote from deaf_heart:
Not once did I infer you said all. In fact, all three that I mentioned earlier will come back at a later point in the increasingly heated discussion and type out "I didn't say "all" women." Which is why I am also of the belief that you three, as well as others, generalize to do nothing but ruffle feathers for no other reason than to see if the subject matter gets ruffled.

And yes truth can ruffle feathers, but so can lies.
first of all I apologize I was wrong for that.....
On that note....where is the lies

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cruesin
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Quote from dark_gable0585:
generalizing is a broad statement that is generally true to what the majority thinks on issues....stereotype is a negative connotation


To me, they are too close for comfort.

I realize generalizations tend to be based on fact and stereotypes on assumption...however every file has exceptions.

Generalizing about race, gender, religious belief etc can be just as harmful as stereotyping.

I think people should remember it's never all or nothing and when it comes to people, grouping in all or nothing labeled piles will never be factual. It may be for some but never for all and it ends up discounting or misjudging an enormous amount of people

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dark_gable0585
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Quote from cruesin:
To me, they are too close for comfort.

I realize generalizations tend to be based on fact and stereotypes on assumption...however every file has exceptions.

Generalizing about race, gender, religious belief etc can be just as harmful as stereotyping.

I think people should remember it's never all or nothing and when it comes to people, grouping in all or nothing labeled piles will never be factual. It may be for some but never for all and it ends up discounting or misjudging an enormous amount of people
there is a difference between facts and opinion.....
Generalization is opinion based on facts....
Stereotype is a opinion with emoiton
so as far as the two words go hand and hand......we can agree to disagree

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cruesin
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Quote from dark_gable0585:
there is a difference between facts and opinion.....
Generalization is opinion based on facts....
Stereotype is a opinion with emoiton
so as far as the two words go hand and hand......we can agree to disagree


That can be true but not always.

Saying "Little girls play with dolls" is a general statement, however it's not a true statement as MOST Little girls play with dolls.

"Black men are more likely to be criminals..." is that a TRUE generalization? No it's not. Based On stats that state "One in six black men had been incarcerated as of 2001. If current trends continue, one in three black males born today can expect to spend time in prison during his lifetime"

So there is a generalization based on fact, however a much larger percentage of black men are NOT criminals. Generalizing does not use proper math. Nor does it take into account the reasoning behind the generalization. For example, more black men are in prison than white men, fact. It is not because they are black however, it's because the cycle of our society has kept more of the black population in poverty or close to it and in crime ridden areas. Therefor, Poverty is the reason not skin color.

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dark_gable0585
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Quote from cruesin:
That can be true but not always.

Saying "Little girls play with dolls" is a general statement, however it's not a true statement as MOST Little girls play with dolls.

"Black men are more likely to be criminals..." is that a TRUE generalization? No it's not. Based On stats that state "One in six black men had been incarcerated as of 2001. If current trends continue, one in three black males born today can expect to spend time in prison during his lifetime"

So there is a generalization based on fact, however a much larger percentage of black men are NOT criminals. Generalizing does not use proper math. Nor does it take into account the reasoning behind the generalization. For example, more black men are in prison than white men, fact. It is not because they are black however, it's because the cycle of our society has kept more of the black population in poverty or close to it and in crime ridden areas. Therefor, Poverty is the reason not skin color.
that black men comment is stereotypical not logic

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dark_gable0585
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Quote from cruesin:
That can be true but not always.

Saying "Little girls play with dolls" is a general statement, however it's not a true statement as MOST Little girls play with dolls.

"Black men are more likely to be criminals..." is that a TRUE generalization? No it's not. Based On stats that state "One in six black men had been incarcerated as of 2001. If current trends continue, one in three black males born today can expect to spend time in prison during his lifetime"

So there is a generalization based on fact, however a much larger percentage of black men are NOT criminals. Generalizing does not use proper math. Nor does it take into account the reasoning behind the generalization. For example, more black men are in prison than white men, fact. It is not because they are black however, it's because the cycle of our society has kept more of the black population in poverty or close to it and in crime ridden areas. Therefor, Poverty is the reason not skin color.
the example of little girls is an opinion not a general statement

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cruesin
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Quote from dark_gable0585:
that black men comment is stereotypical not logic


Based on the fact I gave, it's not a stereotype.

And if it is then so is the supposed generalization that "women are liars"


Do you see what I mean by the two being too close for comfort, for me?

That is the only point I'm trying to make, nothing more

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cruesin
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Quote from dark_gable0585:
the example of little girls is an opinion not a general statement


Then generalize for me. Give me three generalizations and let's look at those examples ...it's easier to change my mind about things with examples that make sense. Right now, I'm not seeing it. I tried to even research the two to find the difference and "the little girls play with dolls" example was given as a generalization

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mylegsarecold
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Quote from dark_gable0585:
that black men comment is stereotypical not logic


It is a factual statement. That isn't stereotyping.


And Crusin is wrong, it isn't comparing black men to black men.
It is comparing black men to non black men.

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mylegsarecold
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Quote from dark_gable0585:
the example of little girls is an opinion not a general statement

Little girls DO play with dolls, that is generally true statement, not opinion.

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dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from cruesin:
Then generalize for me. Give me three generalizations and let's look at those examples ...it's easier to change my mind about things with examples that make sense. Right now, I'm not seeing it. I tried to even research the two to find the difference and "the little girls play with dolls" example was given as a generalization


Ok I'm just coming but I'll give you a few...

Black ppl smoke weed...

Mexicans are hard working ppl...

White ppl live better lives than blacks...

Men are only interested in ONE THING from women...

Women are only interested in a man's money...

Foreign make better wives than american women...


These are all "generalizations" that are perceived from SOCIETY'S VIEW based on what the MAJORITY is showing. But to each one of these there are a minority who don't fit the bill.

But our society is based on democracy which means "The Majority Rules" so it's just unfortunate that a handful have to suffer. But you NEVER sacrifice the MANY for the sake of a FEW. And bcuz women are "Emotional" that logic will NEVER EVER register with them.

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dark_gable0585
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Quote from mylegsarecold:
Little girls DO play with dolls, that is generally true statement, not opinion.
where is your facts simp

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cruesin
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Quote from mylegsarecold:
It is a factual statement. That isn't stereotyping.


And Crusin is wrong, it isn't comparing black men to black men.
It is comparing black men to non black men.


Thats what I said isn't it? Thats what I meant to say...either way wasn't my point anyway

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cruesin
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
Ok I'm just coming but I'll give you a few...

Black ppl smoke weed...

Mexicans are hard working ppl...

White ppl live better lives than blacks...

Men are only interested in ONE THING from women...

Women are only interested in a man's money...

Foreign make better wives than american women...


These are all "generalizations" that are perceived from SOCIETY'S VIEW based on what the MAJORITY is showing. But to each one of these there are a minority who don't fit the bill.

But our society is based on democracy which means "The Majority Rules" so it's just unfortunate that a handful have to suffer. But you NEVER sacrifice the MANY for the sake of a FEW. And bcuz women are "Emotional" that logic will NEVER EVER register with them.


Ok thank you. To me those are ALL stereotypes. In my opinion and from what I have seen, people that generalize and stereotype are simply ignorant. Again though that's not a generalization of ALL PEOPLE that generalize. It is only from what I have experienced with those that do

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mylegsarecold
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Quote from dark_gable0585:
where is your facts simp

Dept. of Justice.

It is true for 'crime rate by race' not overall total crime.

white people commit 42% of all crime, black 22%.
But there are 5 times as many white people, so
the rate by race is higher for black than white.

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cruesin
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Yes but that is not a product of race, it is a product of Poverty in our society and a cycle that goes back to the abolition of slavery, that we have yet to correct.

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dark_gable0585
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Quote from mylegsarecold:
Dept. of Justice.

It is true for 'crime rate by race' not overall total crime.

white people commit 42% of all crime, black 22%.
But there are 5 times as many white people, so
the rate by race is higher for black than white.
nd whats that got to do with dolls....pay attention

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cruesin
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@dark

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dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from deaf_heart:
First, let me say this ... I'm not your baby, nor anyone elses. You may adress me by my username, or Ma'am, or my given name if I have told you it. I respectfully request you do not adress me by pet names not afforded to be used by you from me.

Now to the real issue. Opening post asked if each individual who chose to read said post agreed or disagreed. I gave my answers and I gave reason as to why on two of them.
As for generalization, I said I believe you should quantify it. This belief stems from a person not wanting people to holler back that they are not that which is generalized. *which is typically gender bias remarks when made by you, dark, and Enig*

Some can be any percentage of a group from 3% to 50%, most can cover from 50.01% to 99.99%. Both say that you do not mean all, which you state you type later at some point anyways. So why not start it that way?
By telling you my belief, I am in no way trying to control your way of generalizing. I simply said I believe.


Ok well let me say this deaf!!! We don't have a sexual or ANY OTHER KIND of relationship, I never asked you out or gave any indicated you. So me calling you "Baby" WASN'T A TERM OF ENDEARMENT, A COME or or NOT EVEN A WINK! I will respect your wishes bcuz you're entitled to that. Just wasn't NO NEED to be so snappy, catty and b*tchy about.

But thanks for the perfect example of how ppl communicate I n such a wrong way.

As for me asking if you agree or disagree with my questions at the end ofmy post?? Was ONLY to seperate those who agreed from those who don't so EVERYONE would know who to address or NOT address. I NEVER told you or SNYONE ELSE that your answer or opinions would be written in stone, carved into an Egyptian Obelisk or written across the pyramids for YOUR coronation as the Next Queen of Egypt!

You expressed what you felt about the words most, some, etc and that's your beliefs, FINE! I didn't say it was wrong NOW DID I? Nor did I say "YOU CAN'T DO THAT GOT DAMMIT! lol I ONLY pointed out how using those words as adjectives (by definition) can confuse or neutralize the purpose in generalizing in the first.

You're talking more about your beliefs than the actual definition and meaning behind generalizing WHICH IS WHY I made this thread IN THE FIRST PLACE! To talk about how "ppl" but MOSTLY women (happy that I used mostly) will use their PERSONAL FEELINGS to change and redefine shit which causes a SERIOUS problem in communication.

It's just a conversation. Don't be so bitter about it draf!!!

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cruesin
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I find anything that takes away our individualism, to be negative.

I don't follow the viewpoints of societal norms as I'm quite sure most DO NOT, whether they admit it or not.

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dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from dark_gable0585:
ok I see you saying that I'm being bias can you please explain why


The simple fact that she had me, you and enigma pegged before she even came in here is enough to tell you where that conversation is going.

Look what happen when I said "Baby!"

I'm STILL in my bathroom with gauze pads and alcohol tending to the scratches on my face and neck for saying "Baby!"

But Imma be alright. Maybe she just need to vent, be showed a little love and a hug or two.

6/23/2017 3:48:17 PM Generalizations, Guilty Consciences and Hypocrisy! | Page 2  

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from cruesin:
I find anything that takes away our individualism, to be negative.

I don't follow the viewpoints of societal norms as I'm quite sure most DO NOT, whether they admit it or not.


You just touched upon the basis of this thread...

I don't give A RATS A** what society thinks. I ONLY respect the recorded definitions of words we use to communicate when the "Actions" put forth supports the definitions. When the actions NO LONGER support the definition then it's pure BULLSHIT!

Like when feminist say "We're all about EQUAL RIGHTS!" But push to pass laws to keep men from their children, pay for kids that are NOT biologically his AND pass laws so women can put their hands on him without him defending himself against a woman's assaults.

See THATS when I have NO respect and REFUSE to support the written definition.

But in here you WILL get bashed just for NOT being a follower, NOT worshipping Gov't and for being a free thinker.

6/23/2017 4:04:27 PM Generalizations, Guilty Consciences and Hypocrisy! | Page 2  
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
You just touched upon the basis of this thread...

I don't give A RATS A** what society thinks. I ONLY respect the recorded definitions of words we use to communicate when the "Actions" put forth supports the definitions. When the actions NO LONGER support the definition then it's pure BULLSHIT!

Like when feminist say "We're all about EQUAL RIGHTS!" But push to pass laws to keep men from their children, pay for kids that are NOT biologically his AND pass laws so women can put their hands on him without him defending himself against a woman's assaults.

See THATS when I have NO respect and REFUSE to support the written definition.

But in here you WILL get bashed just for NOT being a follower, NOT worshipping Gov't and for being a free thinker.


You must be a dumber than dumb mutha f**ka if you've experienced what you rant about!!!

I've mopped the courtroom floor with my exes! DNA test and you won't pay for your cousins kid! I've had stupid b*tches locked up for CDV! I mean WTF!!!

The law is on the side of the one in the right! Maybe it's a white thing?

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mylegsarecold
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Quote from cruesin:
Yes but that is not a product of race, it is a product of Poverty in our society and a cycle that goes back to the abolition of slavery, that we have yet to correct.

Well of course it is NOT the product of race. It's actually called an indicator.
Being black does not cause crime. But an individual is strongly influenced by the
culture they live in.

But, you also said it was the product of poverty. Should we lock up all
poor people? See, that is stereotyping. Being poor doesn't cause crime
any more than being black does. But I do believe that poverty is a contributing
factor.

But so are:

Lack of discipline.
Negative peer pressure.
Bad cultural influence.
Apathy. Depression.

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dark_gable0585
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
The simple fact that she had me, you and enigma pegged before she even came in here is enough to tell you where that conversation is going.

Look what happen when I said "Baby!"

I'm STILL in my bathroom with gauze pads and alcohol tending to the scratches on my face and neck for saying "Baby!"

But Imma be alright. Maybe she just need to vent, be showed a little love and a hug or two.
and she didn't explain why.....its like me calling you a b*tch(just a example)...you asked why did i called you that and I say "oh it's because of what you said" it doesn't make any sense

6/23/2017 4:30:53 PM Generalizations, Guilty Consciences and Hypocrisy! | Page 2  

dark_gable0585
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Quote from cruesin:
@dark
he tries to hard to please a woman by agreeing all the time.....that's a fact

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deaf_heart
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You two are a hoot.

It was not an attack when I "respectfully requested" you to not call me baby. Moreover, the term baby when used with a person of the opposite sex is a term of endearment. (There's a generalization for you.)

The definition of GENERALIZATION does not once say that it is the polled opinion of the masses. Here is the official definition:
Definitions of
generalization

n the process of formulating general concepts by abstracting common properties of instances

n reasoning from detailed facts to general principles

n response learned to one stimulus to a similar stimulus

n an idea or conclusion having general application


It also starts the page saying the following:
Taking something specific and applying it more broadly is making a generalization. It's a generalization to say all dogs chase squirrels. A generalization is taking one or a few facts and making a broader, more universal statement. If all the girls you know play with dolls, you might make the generalization that all girls play with dolls. Scientists try to make generalizations based on research — the more data they have, the more accurate the generalization. Generalizations can be similar to stereotypes in that they are sometimes wrong and harmful. Usually, it's best to stick with specifics and avoid generalizations.