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korbyn
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Don't trust the bible anymore. The words in it have been changing. Mandela Effect.
Plus, it was written by 6 corporations in the 1600s to begin with.
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korbyn
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DON'T BELIEVE THE BIBLE ANYMORE. IT'S BEEN CHANGING!!!
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cern_
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The universe doesn't exist in a defined state unless it is observed. Therefore, time did not exist until we observed it. Or someone else did....
That's a simile that's not unlike the hackneyed sentence, "If a tree falls in the woods and there's no one there to hear it, would it make a sound?" The obvious answer, Korbyn, is that the universe would exist and spacetiime would exist just as it is without an observer, just like the aforementioned tree would make a loud noise without an observer.
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korbyn
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That's a simile that's not unlike the hackneyed sentence, "If a tree falls in the woods and there's no one there to hear it, would it make a sound?" The obvious answer, Korbyn, is that the universe would exist and spacetiime would exist just as it is without an observer, just like the aforementioned tree would make a loud noise without an observer.
No. It would both make a loud noise and not make a loud noise at the same time. An undefined state on a quantum level. Indetermined.
The quantum observer effect. The very act of watching affects the observed reality.
On a quantum level, Particles can also exist as waves.
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korbyn
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In the presence of another world
You guess the things unguessed
In the fullness of another world
There is no emptiness
In the promise of another world
A dreadful knowledge comes
How even space can modulate
And earthly things be done
Your master he's a monster
He will come on a bridge of paper
Inscribed with a hundred names of god
But he can count one more
The curse of life eternal
Written on the door
Your master.....he's a monster
Your master.....he's a monster
Your master.....he's a monster
In the presence of another world
A dreadful knowledge comes
How even space can modulate
And earthly things be done
In the fullness of another world
There is no emptiness
Your master.....your master is a monster
Your master.....born of a yolkless egg
Your master.....he has dominion over animals
Your master.....he walks the world entrail diviner
Your master.....and when the stars are right
Your master.....he locks the door behind the door behind the door
Your master.....the milky way abyss inclines
Your master.....the seven years of labor for the instruments of time
Your master.....the seven years of labor for the instruments of time
Your master.....the seven years of labor for the instruments of time
Your master.....the seven years of labor for the instruments of time
Your master is a monster
And gentlemanly too
He'll make for us some new germ
With pieces of the perfect black
The alpha and omega
The double peaks of mars
The maze of his infinity
The buried city
In the stars
Blue Oyster Cult: In the Presence of Another World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPL87C_C_5k
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cern_
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No. It would both make a loud noise and not make a loud noise at the same time. An undefined state on a quantum level. Indetermined.
The quantum observer effect. The very act of watching affects the observed reality.
On a quantum level, Particles can also exist as waves.
Your brain is congested by having too many quadruple-quarks floating around in what's left of it. It's as if it has enormous gaps within it which have led to your clogged, cloudy thinking, and I'm not referring to the huge spaces within the atoms of your brain, or any brain. Remember, Korbyn, we're not talking about journalists having an influence on a news event that they're covering, you're speaking as if there's a "cosmic consciousness" and there is not, notwithstanding the fact that you want there to be such -- perhaps the reason that this nonsense is placed in this thread -- which is a safe inference to draw from your words today and springboard-words from the past. Without realizing it, you're saying that all atoms in the universe are affected by your sitting, standing or jumping close to a basketball hoop to complete your 360-degree slam dunk, where the subatomic particles in the gravitational waves that are 970,000,000,000 light-years away from the center of the galaxy that you're in -- and Earth is a long way from the Milky Way's center -- a galaxy that's moving at a speed of 1.5 million mph as we and Andromeda head for a merger-collision.
Why didn't you factor in the radiation of the Cosmic Microwave Background, the Bang's residue?
(Enough with the Mandela Effect or any other effects, unless it's the placebo effect, get it?)
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korbyn
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Your brain is congested by having too many quadruple-quarks floating around in what's left of it. It's as if it has enormous gaps within it which have led to your clogged, cloudy thinking, and I'm not referring to the huge spaces within the atoms of your brain, or any brain. Remember, Korbyn, we're not talking about journalists having an influence on a news event that they're covering, you're speaking as if there's a "cosmic consciousness" and there is not, notwithstanding the fact that you want there to be such -- perhaps the reason that this nonsense is placed in this thread -- which is a safe inference to draw from your words today and springboard-words from the past. Without realizing it, you're saying that all atoms in the universe are affected by your sitting, standing or jumping close to a basketball hoop to complete your 360-degree slam dunk, where the subatomic particles in the gravitational waves that are 970,000,000,000 light-years away from the center of the galaxy that you're in -- and Earth is a long way from the Milky Way's center -- a galaxy that's moving at a speed of 1.5 million mph as we and Andromeda head for a merger-collision.
Why didn't you factor in the radiation of the Cosmic Microwave Background, the Bang's residue?
(Enough with the Mandela Effect or any other effects, unless it's the placebo effect, get it?)
Yeah, yeah yeah, Cern. At this point I don't even have to read it to know you will say.
It's cool. That's you, man. I get it.
But the thing is, as far as this quantum stuff such as the observer effect, I'm not making that up.
You should do some self-educating on some of these quantum theories. It doesn't prove or disprove that there is "god" or anything like that.
You like scientific things. Check out "Observer Effect". Check out The Double Slit Experiment. Or "Schroedinger's Cat".
The Double Slit experiment shows that particles can exist in a wave state (until observed) in which it becomes determined.
In my opinion, even when you look at existence from a atheistic point of view, it is entirely possible that we (human intelligence) play a role in forming the framework of the universe. Either way, Read up on some of this stuff. You like science. This is science.
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pento4
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NAME UR GOD
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https://youtu.be/bKdRFTTA8IE Start at the
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cern_
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Yeah, yeah yeah, Cern. At this point I don't even have to read it to know you will say.
It's cool. That's you, man. I get it.
But the thing is, as far as this quantum stuff such as the observer effect, I'm not making that up.
You should do some self-educating on some of these quantum theories. It doesn't prove or disprove that there is "god" or anything like that.
You like scientific things. Check out "Observer Effect". Check out The Double Slit Experiment. Or "Schroedinger's Cat".
The Double Slit experiment shows that particles can exist in a wave state (until observed) in which it becomes determined.
In my opinion, even when you look at existence from a atheistic point of view, it is entirely possible that we (human intelligence) play a role in forming the framework of the universe. Either way, Read up on some of this stuff. You like science. This is science.
Thanks for your tips on the famous items noted, don't know how I made it through physics without you, Oracle, but why walk the reader(s) around the block with words? Just come right out with it, sheesh, be straightforward enough to say that you want there to be some "gods" and that you wish that you were reattached to an E-meter.
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blake6972
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God doesn't believe in "atheists ".
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_Technologist01
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God doesn't believe in "atheists ".
I totally disagree. God knows of the people who have faith. I believe he would much rather work through the ones who do not believe.
Remember the story where the sheep lost his way from the herd. God was more concerned about the lost than the ones who were found.
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iam_resurrected
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Really, Iam?! Apparently you've destroyed your hippocampus while inhaling too much roofing tar and glue. I gave you an unchallengeable breakdown as to how Claire "Pat" Patterson et al determined that the age of Earth is 4.55 billion years, unequivocally factual, just as is non-random natural selection with random mutations (why you weren't taught the obvious back in Fairmount, I don't know, probably a school board overloaded with hillbillies). One would think that you would have taken it upon yourself to read the pertinent literature since high school but, no, you're too lazy. (Say, why are you even posting in this thread after you've declared yourself to be an apostate from the Superstitionism in question?) All your nonsense on "cell" division going back 13.72 billion years and 4.55 billion years is, of course, a lie, just as your folderol on Einstein not being an atheist was another lie. Any and everything from apologetics sites is flimflam, designed for those of your breed that think that fishes are "sinners." You actually have the nerve to wonder why 38% of U.S. residents are atheists, take a look in a mirror and you'll have the answer.
i gave ample examples of those things you claim i failed at which held all of the proofs i had intended to be brought forth. they are factual statements, factual studies, factual results, and present true logic. so yes, i have presented every point i tried to make with a source of fact to back it. these are not things i am just yanking out of my butt.
pertaining to red line and microwave background that is spot on. there are red lines close to us that science has purposely ignored all for the purpose of skewing this 13.8 billion year old myth of theirs. if they took in consideration these factual red lines they would have to conclude the universe is nowhere close to even the geologist speculation the 4.5 billion age of earth. the radiometric timescale is as skewed as carbon dating has been proved to be or uranium lead dating.
i don't care that you want the earth to be this old nor the universe, but i do care that the methods are being skewed to achieve these numbers.
therefore, it leads to common sense that science is obviously lying!!
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blake6972
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I totally disagree. God knows of the people who have faith. I believe he would much rather work through the ones who do not believe.
Remember the story where the sheep lost his way from the herd. God was more concerned about the lost than the ones who were found.
It was a play on words.
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korbyn
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Thanks for your tips on the famous items noted, don't know how I made it through physics without you, Oracle, but why walk the reader(s) around the block with words? Just come right out with it, sheesh, be straightforward enough to say that you want there to be some "gods" and that you wish that you were reattached to an E-meter.
I don't want anything of the sort. I'm not sure which would be worse. If there are higher powers in the universe or not. Either way it could be a bad thing. I consider all the options. It depends on my mood.
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korbyn
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People always talk about how if (or when) we discover the existence of Aliens, it would destroy or damage the world religions. But if you think about it, it would also do serious damage to atheism as well. Especially if the alien life is vastly superior to human life. Which is likely, if they have the ability to travel here from where they come from.....
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uncle_bulgaria
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Which is likely, if they have the ability to travel here from where they come from.....
Well not necessarily, one theory is life started on Earth after being seeded by simple single celled life etc which traveled and was deposited here on comets.
No massive intellect or starship enterprise required.
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blake6972
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Yuuuuup .
Seems legit.
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korbyn
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Which is likely, if they have the ability to travel here from where they come from.....
Well not necessarily, one theory is life started on Earth after being seeded by simple single celled life etc which traveled and was deposited here on comets.
No massive intellect or starship enterprise required.
I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about this:
People will worship anything more powerful than us.
They worship gods that are not real.
They will most definitely worship gods that are real.
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cupocheer
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Good Morning, everyone.
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playingindirt
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I don't see the world in black and white. there are too many grey areas to think that what we already know is the complete and only truth.
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uncle_bulgaria
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I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about this:
People will worship anything more powerful than us.
They worship gods that are not real.
They will most definitely worship gods that are real.
Yes...it's all based on assumption,
As we don't know if any of these sky fairies or aliens do exist...as such 'worshiping' imaginary beings (which is what they are until definitive proof exists) is all a bit silly/illogical.
It's like worrying if the parcel coming to you via UPS got lost without checking the tracking information first.
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stanleyzee
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uncle_bulgaria
Houston, TX
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Zee where have you been...I was worried.
No luck on the mega last night 
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stanleyzee
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Hi Germ, that's sweet
Me BEEN holding back on posting because I WANT
+{My DEUCE}+
To remain #1
If ever me don't enter within 7 days.. EITHER im dead or I'm dead
KEEP up on lottery GERM, hell if I can afford to BET anyone can  
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uncle_bulgaria
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If I win Zee, they'll be a large donation coming in your direction...and I'm talking about my willy yes.
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stanleyzee
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Hi Germ, that's sweet
Me BEEN holding back on posting because I WANT
+{My DEUCE}+
To remain #1
If ever me don't enter within 7 days.. EITHER im dead or I'm dead
KEEP up on lottery GERM, hell if I can afford to BET anyone can
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stanleyzee
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If I win Zee, they'll be a large donation coming in your direction...and I'm talking about my willy yes.
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korbyn
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Yes...it's all based on assumption,
As we don't know if any of these sky fairies or aliens do exist...as such 'worshiping' imaginary beings (which is what they are until definitive proof exists) is all a bit silly/illogical.
It's like worrying if the parcel coming to you via UPS got lost without checking the tracking information first.
Yeah. I am talking about IF the human race experiences a direct revelation/encounter with something with superior abilities/knowledge. If it came here from another star then it will be far in advance of us. That's if it is even something that we can interact with. People will worship it. Some of them may not realize thats what they are doing. Like I said before: Humans worship fake "gods". They WILL worship a real "godlike" being. Atheist will still be able to be atheists and worship a real "god" (an advanced non-human being) at the same time.
Heck It may happen in the next few years. Not aliens. But Artificial Intelligences. That's been happening now. They have been having to shut down AI experiments lately because the things start communicating amongst themselves in a language we cant understand. Eventually one of these things is going to take off and become a technological Singularity. Some people are going to worship the thing like a deity. It will have superior abilities. This could happen any day now.
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korbyn
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We (humanity) are on the verge of creating our own real "god" or "gods".
Someone to watch over us. To care for us. To meet all our needs.
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uncle_bulgaria
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We (humanity) are on the verge of creating our own real "god" or "gods".
Someone to watch over us. To care for us. To meet all our needs.
...he's talking about a welfare system.
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korbyn
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...he's talking about a welfare system.
When we don't have to work anymore because we have machines that can do it all, then that's how people will have to survive..... Call it what you want... That's what is going to happen eventually. There will only be a few select jobs for people to do and machines will be doing like 99% of the work. It's starting to happen now. Automation. Once AI is perfected people won't be needed for jobs much anymore.
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korbyn
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...he's talking about a welfare system.
Talking about a "God" we have always wanted. One that answers our prayers..... One that anticipates our needs. It would be nothing for an AI to be able to do that if it is hundreds of times smarter and capable than a human.
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uncle_bulgaria
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Talking about a "God" we have always wanted. One that answers your prayers.....
dude the fleshlight has been out for years.
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korbyn
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dude the fleshlight has been out for years.
Not what I was talking about but....
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uncle_bulgaria
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When we don't have to work anymore because we have machines that can do it all, then that's how people will have to survive..... Call it what you want... That's what is going to happen eventually. There will only be a few select jobs for people to do and machines will be doing like 99% of the work. It's starting to happen now. Automation. Once AI is perfected people won't be needed for jobs much anymore.
yes the "universal income payment", They just got through with an experiment in Kenya (I think it was Kenya) where they gave everyone in a village $22 a month for 12 yrs or something like that.
The expectation was people would waste it on vices etc...but it turned out to be a huge success in that people started businesses and the average spending of the population increased 2x more than the $22. The Kenyan gov said it was the most successful incentive they'd ever conducted.
...not sure giving fat lazy Americans free money would work out quite so well though
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korbyn
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yes the "universal income payment", They just got through with an experiment in Kenya (I think it was Kenya) where they gave everyone in a village $22 a month for 12 yrs or something like that.
The expectation was people would waste it on vices etc...but it turned out to be a huge success in that people started businesses and the average spending of the population increased 2x more than the $22. The Kenyan gov said it was the most successful incentive they'd ever conducted.
...not sure giving fat lazy Americans free money would work out quite so well though
It don't matter. It's what will have to happen when there are no jobs anymore. What do you think people are going to do? Machines are going to replace people on all the jobs eventually. Even the "thinking" jobs.....
It may not be a matter of income or money at that point. More a matter of having peoples needs provided for. Food, home, etc. Won't really need money at that point.....
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uncle_bulgaria
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It don't matter. It's what will have to happen when there are no jobs anymore. What do you think people are going to do? Machines are going to replace people on all the jobs eventually. Even the "thinking" jobs.....
The same was said by many when the industrial revolution came along. Futurists tend to get things wrong...
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korbyn
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An A.I. machine (posthuman) future is what is going to happen unless we have some kind of nuclear war or a meteor hits us and f**ks up the planet so bad that we go back to being cave men.
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korbyn
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It don't matter. It's what will have to happen when there are no jobs anymore. What do you think people are going to do? Machines are going to replace people on all the jobs eventually. Even the "thinking" jobs.....
It may not be a matter of income or money at that point. More a matter of having peoples needs provided for. Food, home, etc. Won't really need money at that point.....
The same was said by many when the industrial revolution came along. Futurists tend to get things wrong...
It's happening right now.
Look at the things that tech companies and Google and Facebook have been experimenting with algorithms and artificial intelligence. Right now. Also look at what has been happening with factory industry. its become increasingly automated to where there are a lot less factories than there used to be.....That's only going to increase...
Eventually, probably sooner than later, we won't need people to do much of anything anymore...
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korbyn
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It don't matter. It's what will have to happen when there are no jobs anymore. What do you think people are going to do? Machines are going to replace people on all the jobs eventually. Even the "thinking" jobs.....
The same was said by many when the industrial revolution came along. Futurists tend to get things wrong...
Like I said before. The kind of post-human future that I am talking about, it isn't a matter of "socialism" and money and things of that nature. Those things will be obsolete at that point....
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uncle_bulgaria
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It's happening right now.
Not it isn't...we are at a 13yr (or something like that without googling) low as far are unemployment goes...and the global economy is growing..with it jobs.
Shifts in job demographics isn't a shift to no jobs.
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korbyn
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It don't matter. It's what will have to happen when there are no jobs anymore. What do you think people are going to do? Machines are going to replace people on all the jobs eventually. Even the "thinking" jobs.....
The same was said by many when the industrial revolution came along. Futurists tend to get things wrong...
No. They were right. It just taking longer than they assumed.
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korbyn
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Not it isn't...we are at a 13yr (or something like that without googling) low as far are unemployment goes...and the global economy is growing..with it jobs.
Shifts in job demographics isn't a shift to no jobs.
I am talking about the creation of AI. Its happening now.
Before this century is over, it will be a post-human world or it will be Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.
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uncle_bulgaria
Houston, TX
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Like I said before. The kind of post-human future that I am talking about, it isn't a matter of "socialism" and money and things of that nature. Those things will be obsolete at that point....
You've been watching too much of the scifi channel. A.I isn't CLOSE to being a thing as in a threat to humans...and wont be for the foreseeable future...hundreds of years away...and guessing what the future so far ahead will be like is basically telling a fairytale...hell futurists just 40yrs ago predicted all kinds of crazy shit for us that never happened...
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uncle_bulgaria
Houston, TX
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I am talking about the creation of AI. Its happening now.
Before this century is over, it will be a post-human world or it will be Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.
Um no...the A.I we have now..(and really they are using that term because it's a 'buzz term' not because it's really artificial intelligence) is dumber than a flea.
Again, stop watching the Scifi channel. A.I wont be a "threat" in anyone's lifetime who is alive today...and more than likely several generations after too.
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playingindirt
Eugene, OR
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Yes...it's all based on assumption,
As we don't know if any of these sky fairies or aliens do exist...as such 'worshiping' imaginary beings (which is what they are until definitive proof exists) is all a bit silly/illogical.
It's like worrying if the parcel coming to you via UPS got lost without checking the tracking information first.
like saying they worship a sky fairy isn't a ridiculous assumption? Its not logical. everybody knows there are no sky fairies yet you assume they think so.
believing that there is more then what has been proven by man doesn't mean someone doesn't believe scientific facts.
If science was so fool proof and had all that facts where everything began could be explained.
the theory of how everything came from nothing is ridiculous. nothing cannot create something.
I think science could explain everything given an eternity to do it but to believe in only the facts when all the facts are not all in it is just to going on belief just like you think peoples sky people are.
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korbyn
Bat Cave, NC
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Um no...the A.I we have now..(and really they are using that term because it's a 'buzz term' not because it's really artificial intelligence) is dumber than a flea.
Again, stop watching the Scifi channel. A.I wont be a "threat" in anyone's lifetime who is alive today...and more than likely several generations after too.
Im not saying we have achieved a technological Singularity yet. You are misunderstanding what i am saying. I know how things are NOW. I am talking about the future. Near future. We are nearing a Singularity that will create a post-human world. That's if we don't blow civilization all to hell this century.
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korbyn
Bat Cave, NC
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You've been watching too much of the scifi channel. A.I isn't CLOSE to being a thing as in a threat to humans...and wont be for the foreseeable future...hundreds of years away...and guessing what the future so far ahead will be like is basically telling a fairytale...hell futurists just 40yrs ago predicted all kinds of crazy shit for us that never happened...
You are wrong. They have had to shut down several AI experiments recently because they started doing things that weren't predicted. Thats been in the news over the past few weeks. Yes I know we don't live in a post-human future right now. No shit. I am meaning in the future. This century.
You keep making out like I am talking about the present. I am not. I am talking about the near future. This century.
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korbyn
Bat Cave, NC
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What will happen to atheism if a superior being came here from some other world? Or is we create a superior being? It will disrupt atheism the same way it will disrupt the major religions. There is no way to realistically deny the existence of something that is real in a tangible sense.
Im sure CERN will have something to say on this... lol
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
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xray6
Jacksonville, FL
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Actually no.
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If a superior being came down from somewhere it would fit all of the atheist criteria To which you can say that something exists.
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If anything atheist Would-be inspired to want to learn more about the being
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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As I have already stated earlier in this thread...
Christians and Atheists BOTH believe in GOD.
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uncle_bulgaria
Houston, TX
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You are wrong. They have had to shut down several AI experiments recently because they started doing things that weren't predicted. Thats been in the news over the past few weeks.
CNN or Foxnews? ...seriously...
I shut down my dishwasher if it does things that weren't predicted...doesn't mean it's going to take over the world
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uncle_bulgaria
Houston, TX
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As I have already stated earlier in this thread...
Christians and Atheists BOTH believe in GOD.
Must be true if YOU stated it huh...Jesus (the expletive one not he spiritual one)...you f**king people here
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eric22t
Londonderry, NH
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atheism is the LACK of belief in gods
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uncle_bulgaria
Houston, TX
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like saying they worship a sky fairy isn't a ridiculous assumption?
Well it's not an assumption, some people do believe god is up in the sky, and is capable of what we call magic, like a fairy is.
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uncle_bulgaria
Houston, TX
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atheism is the LACK of belief in gods
I understand his argument there. The thinking goes that if God doesn't exist you can't be atheist...as a complete absence of something is nothing...being an atheist is being something.
To not believe in something has connotations that there is something not to believe in...
Like not believing in sex before marriage, even though it exists.
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Yes, I am being truthful. TY for noticing. 
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uncle_bulgaria
Houston, TX
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I don't doubt it's what you believe cup 
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
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atheism is the LACK of belief in gods
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