I agree with you. What we decide to experiance then I'm sure will be differant then what we think now.
I disagree with this. I don't think we choose who, or what we will be reincarnated as. Or the time and place we come back to. I think it's more, or less random chance.
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paganwoman727
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I never claimed to be what I said I was. I know what I was, wheather anyone wants to believe me or not is their decision and have the right to voice their opinion.
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wolfyhp
Bradley, CA
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This is, perhaps, one of the main reasons I stopped talking about my past lives with others. I know what they were, and knowledge of them helps me. I can talk about all the different psychics who have confirmed different past lives, and all the knowledge from past lives that I later found out was real history, etc. However, it's all my words, and it's not proof to anyone. I got tired of people asking me to "prove" who I was in past lives. That, and, as I said earlier, because I'd rather be loved and respected for who I am in this lifetime rather than resting on past laurels.
I understand paganwoman's frustration with people asking if she's gone through regression therapy or whatnot. Regression therapy is only one avenue of exploring past lives. It is not something I'm interested in undergoing personally, because I don't need it in order to have a good understanding of who I am. She's had others tell her who she was, and it's good enough to convince her. If it works for her, I won't be one to tell her she needs to prove anything.
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paganwoman727
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This is, perhaps, one of the main reasons I stopped talking about my past lives with others. I know what they were, and knowledge of them helps me. I can talk about all the different psychics who have confirmed different past lives, and all the knowledge from past lives that I later found out was real history, etc. However, it's all my words, and it's not proof to anyone. I got tired of people asking me to "prove" who I was in past lives. That, and, as I said earlier, because I'd rather be loved and respected for who I am in this lifetime rather than resting on past laurels.
I understand paganwoman's frustration with people asking if she's gone through regression therapy or whatnot. Regression therapy is only one avenue of exploring past lives. It is not something I'm interested in undergoing personally, because I don't need it in order to have a good understanding of who I am. She's had others tell her who she was, and it's good enough to convince her. If it works for her, I won't be one to tell her she needs to prove anything.
Thank you. I grately apprreciate that.
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twohawks
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Question: If someone (anyone) tells you that you were a this, or a that in a past life....How do they know?
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wolfyhp
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Question: If someone (anyone) tells you that you were a this, or a that in a past life....How do they know?
There are many ways. One may be unblocked and have clear memories of one's own past lives, and recognize people whom they've known from previous lives by their spirit. One may be psychically in tune with the Ether and be able to discern an individual's past lives (more often than not, people making such claims are absolute phonies, but I have met a few other real psychics who can do this.) One may simply be granted knowledge of certain past lives, including those of some others, by the Divine because it is knowledge they need for whatever reasons.
Now, if you reject any of these possibilities as real, then I see why you believe regression therapy is the only way to be in touch with one's past lives. Thankfully, most religions who teach about past lives have other methods for finding them other than going through regression therapy.
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twohawks
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I'm NOT rejecting any theories. Just curious how they know these things.
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wolfyhp
Bradley, CA
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I'm NOT rejecting any theories. Just curious how they know these things.
That's cool then. Perhaps I misunderstood the tone of your posts to say that you believed that only regression therapy could be trusted. Since you were only curious about how they may know these things, and since I answered that, I think we're all settled on it now. Glad to be able to provide some answers.
Here's another question for everyone: Do you believe reincarnation always happens linearly through time, or do you think you can be reincarnated in your next lifetime 5,000 years ago if that's what the Divine deems necessary?
And another one: Do you believe you will be human in your next lifetime?
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twohawks
Bothell, WA
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I don't think a reincarnation will send someone to the past because you were there already. I think if one is reincarnated, that person will end up in the future. Another time and in another place?
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valahala
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I think that our past lives are known inside of us. When anyone tells us that we where a certain person in a past life it either rings true or not if we are clear and honest with ourselves. Or if we are open to the posibilitys.
I don't see that we couldn't come back in the past if it's something that we need to experiance. Maybe time is just a measurment in this reality. Becouse it's a physical measurment of the planet revolveing around the sun.
anyway I've always looked at life as a school that we're suposed to learn from.
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twohawks
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I have read a number of reincarnation stories and all were of people who lived a past life and were reincarnated in the future. None of the people I read about had been anyone important in their past life...just common folks. That's not to say that someone important from the past couldn't be reincarnated as a commoner. I don't think that social status makes any difference in reincarnation.
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_ourself_
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Here's another question for everyone: Do you believe reincarnation always happens linearly through time, or do you think you can be reincarnated in your next lifetime 5,000 years ago if that's what the Divine deems necessary?
I obviously don't know but in my opinion, this is kind of a tricky area. Everything in the past is already absorbed/come to fruition and/or experienced by the Divine. Possibly if a timeline was found to be lacking a certain fork in the road... But to try to undo the done only creates a new timeline like a fractal.
I believe we co-create the future now with our decisions. To live a life from the past seems redundant to me unless it's simply for amusements sake when and if literally everything else has been done.
And another one: Do you believe you will be human in your next lifetime?
I may attempt to be just to see how things go around here but if left to randomness, I highly doubt I'd end up in this solar system again.
Who knows?
I believe our next destination is chosen by none other than ourselves... Whether it be a conscious decision or otherwise.
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valahala
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twohawks
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I believe our next destination is chosen by none other than ourselves... Whether it be a conscious decision or otherwise.
I agree with you. What we decide to experiance then I'm sure will be differant then what we think now.
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wolfyhp
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I disagree with this. I don't think we choose who, or what we will be reincarnated as. Or the time and place we come back to. I think it's more, or less random chance.
Whereas I'm somewhere in the middle of the two sides on this. I believe that enlightened masters can choose what form their next life will take, if they choose to have another lifetime. I believe the Divine either guides reincarnation of everyone else, or built a self-sustaining system where souls will be naturally guided to the lives they need each time. I do not think that it's "random chance."
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4evr6y
Morgan, VT
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I believe in repersonalization ...
same soul and personality...
different body.
But not a repersonalization on this planet of our
mortal beginning.
On the "other side" we will find we made it...and we still are.
Our inner Spirit on the other hand might have been involved in many other lives.
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surak555
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Here's another question for everyone: Do you believe reincarnation always happens linearly through time, or do you think you can be reincarnated in your next lifetime 5,000 years ago if that's what the Divine deems necessary?
Your interesting question could also serve to introduce us to another topic, that of time travel. In my case, I believe in reincarnation and I also believe in time travel. I don't think anybody has as yet introduced a thread on time travel, so I was wondering if I should.
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wolfyhp
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Surak That would be interesting. I'm not sure what sort of response it would get, or how you'd tie it into a religious angle... If you can though, it might be fun.
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twohawks
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Time travel is an interesting concept, but if it was possible one who went back in time would have to be very careful not to change anything because that could effect the future. Here's an example:
Let's say you go back in time and you establish yourself somewhere. Ok...Everything is going good then you meet someone from that time and for some reason, or another there is friction between the two of you. This friction builds and you decide to kill that person. You can do that, shoot back to your own time and never be accused of it. Ok? Now lets say that this person was one of your ancestors. A great Uncle, Great Grandfather, or some other ancestor. If you were to kill that person, chances are they wouldn't produce the ones who eventually produced you. Anything you did in that time period could effect the future in some way. So one would have to be very careful in a past time.
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3cupsoftea
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What about 5yr olds who play the piano with no lessons or even the guitar.
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twohawks
Bothell, WA
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What about 5yr olds who play the piano with no lessons or even the guitar.
Could be reincarnated former musicians and they brought their ability to play forward with them?
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catiefaye
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Some religious folks will tell you that when you die you will go to heaven, and Jesus will build you a mansion to live in and you will robes of the finest silk and you will walk in streets paved in gold.....BUT.....I don't believe that nonsense! I think when you die your spirit gets pushed forward into another person in another time in the future. You are reborn as another baby and you grow up as another child and into adulthood. Your past life is basically erased from your memory, but occasionally you will get a "flash back" to a past life. You don't understand it, but it can happen.
Namaste
Oh that's such a shame that you would call someone else's beliefs nonsense, twohawks. There's so much metaphor - in fact, I'd venture to say that the closest we can come to truth is metaphor and allegory. If one person's is called reincarnation and other's is called heaven, then who cares? Let's all be respectful toward each other. That's the beginning of peace.
Om shanti
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twohawks
Bothell, WA
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Namaste
Oh that's such a shame that you would call someone else's beliefs nonsense, twohawks. There's so much metaphor - in fact, I'd venture to say that the closest we can come to truth is metaphor and allegory. If one person's is called reincarnation and other's is called heaven, then who cares? Let's all be respectful toward each other. That's the beginning of peace.
Om shanti
I am being respectful. Just pointing out the nonsense from the bible. The Bible is a "good" book but it is seriously lacking in the truth. And back in the days when I was a Christian (before I had gotten a good grasp on reality) I was told that "Heaven" story by the minister.
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twohawks
Bothell, WA
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Can we consider this thread closed?
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twohawks
Bothell, WA
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It has been said that when you are reincarnated into another life, you bring with you some of your past life, but it is hidden in your subconsious and doesn't appear until you encounter some problem that you don't have an answer for. Case in point. A man who had a fear of large bodies of water including swimming pools. He was given regression therapy and it was discovered in a previous life he had been a passenger on the Titanic and had gone down with the ship. Second case in point. A man who had a fear of fireworks displays and loud explosions. Regression therapy was done and they discovered he had been a soldier in the Civil War and had been killed in an explosion.
How is it that some children can play the piano without ever having taken a lesson? It is possible they were a piano player in a past life?
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dunrich4
Brantford, ON
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There are those that do believe that reincarnation is in the scriptures BTW. Pretty sure you can acess this from the following site.
Christ & the KundaliniChrist and the Kundalini written by Dr Ramesh Manocha. ... In another gnostic text, the Secret Gospel of Thomas, Christ promises us spiritual fulfilment "I ...
www.sol.com.au/kor/8_01.htm - Cached - Similar
The problem arises though, in that scripture had so many changes,,,, who knows what was in the originals?
I am having a hard time, making up my mind about this. It does explain phenomenon as mentioned. But I my self lack the confidence in the feelings I have that I have been here before. Like Pavlovs dog theory, lol, I have been so wrong about so many things I have felt intuatively when it comes to me,,, I cant help wonder if I mis read these as well.
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4evr6y
Morgan, VT
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If there were a personal God...
I wonder if there would be reincarnation?
I mean why would we keep coming back here on this planet?
Even though i believe it's an evolutionary one.
...but I feel like the idea of repersonalization is more like what a God would have us doing.
Our soul and personality staying the same but our repersonalizing happening on other non evolving world.
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twohawks
Bothell, WA
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If there were a personal God...
I wonder if there would be reincarnation?
I mean why would we keep coming back here on this planet?
Even though i believe it's an evolutionary one.
...but I feel like the idea of repersonalization is more like what a God would have us doing.
Our soul and personality staying the same but our repersonalizing happening on other non evolving world.
The way I understand it is you are reincarnated into another person in another time in the future on this planet. Most of the stories I have read are about people with a past life here.
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wnnadance
Belle Plaine, KS
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There are cases of children who also have such events or phases. They start claiming they're someone else and this and that down to ultamite details. Then the parents eventually track down the name and discover everything has been accurate, yet no way for the kid to know such information and defying all rational explaination.
I personnaly do not understand it and have never been someone to get into it for any grandure or escape or whatnot. Why do people encounter other people, seemingly real people, during meditation practices? Sure, its in the mind, but those people have never been seen by that person on TV or anywhere else, yet the people seem completely real with a genuine personality... much more than a dream. I'm curious on what that is all about. I am also curious if we carry over such experience by cell memory or dna with information of the past... IMO.
i have recalled several of my previous deaths thru dreams that are just to real. i was swept overboard onboard a wooden ship.when i tried to grab ahold of a rope and felt it slip thru my fingers. i remember seeing myself floating below the water with my arms stretched out. i remember the most beautiful voice i have ever heard telling me that it was time to go so we did. i was beheaded once and had my head held up while the people cheered. i know that i had something to do religion which probably explains why i can hardly stand organized religions. i died in when a volcano erupted and i couldn't outrun it. for a long time this confused me because my memory tells me that what was coming toward me was grayish instead of the red i thought it should be. then i found out that a really hot cloud of dust and dirt that flows out ahead of the lava.
i have met three people that i have known well in previous lifes.
heres a question do you believe in free choice or predestination? i believe in both. that there are time in our life that are there so that we can learn and grow from them but it is our choice if we accept the challenge or not. have a great day.
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_ourself_
Hamilton, ON
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If there were a personal God...
I wonder if there would be reincarnation?
I mean why would we keep coming back here on this planet?
Even though i believe it's an evolutionary one.
...but I feel like the idea of repersonalization is more like what a God would have us doing.
Our soul and personality staying the same but our repersonalizing happening on other non evolving world.
Some believe that we are the various carnations of God experiencing every aspect of being.
I think that if reincarnation is a reality we wouldn't keep coming back to this planet exclusively.
The being going through many lives is still one of the many manifestations of Mind.
Jmho
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wnnadance
Belle Plaine, KS
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I think that if reincarnation is a reality we wouldn't keep coming back to this planet exclusively.
Jmho
 we don't just reincarnate on this planet, we have a whole galaxy of planets and a whole universe of galaxies with different opportunities for different lessons. wnnadance
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nonstandard
York, PA
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I dont care .
The fact that we "want" to return proves that life is far better than ALL of the alternatives .
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wnnadance
Belle Plaine, KS
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Curious for those who do believe in reincarnation.
Why does it seem, that all claim to be the same genedr in each life? Also, why is every one an Princess, ruler or something in their previous life?
Just saying almost every woman I know who believes they had a past life, claims to have been a Princess, and usually an Egyption one.
Since the basis of it all, is suppose to be a gradual evoloution to enliightenmnet,,, doesnt this strike you as devolving, rather than evolving?
Was any one, the other gender, and a simple peasant, regular person? Just curious.
not ALL claim to be the same gender, but those you have talked to may more closly identify with their current sex because its what they feel most. but we incarnate in either sex depending on what our goals are. if we are evolved we may choose our next incarnation and undertake a difficult one to help our own evolution or someone elses, by setting an example good or bad. (theres always something to be learned). we need many lessons from many places from pauper or leper or hermet etc. to prince etc. how can you know what something is like if you've never been there done that???? this is evolving because it is learning.
on a slightly different view of many lives, it would never pay to commit suicide because if this lesson is hard you could come back next time to a harder one. sometimes these other lives are choosen for you.
i think that one of the reasons we only use something like 6 or 7% of our brain could be that the rest stores info from all of our past lives. 
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blanchedubois
Creighton, PA
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I dont care .
The fact that we "want" to return proves that life is far better than ALL of the alternatives .
There is truth in the statement: "We had no choice but to return."
If any beings made it out of this fallen realm, they haven't come back to tell us how to leave. There is an opening now, which allows more choice as to where we go.
For whatever it is worth to those reading this, it is possible through individuation of higher consciousness to explore and live in situations that are not compatible with ordinary earthly life. For example, moving through the apparent solidity of a planet, entering into the sun, taking a dip in a lava lake, moving through deep space. This also suggests it is possible for highly evolved beings to directly interact with these more specifically “detailed” levels of creation. This would include the development of a collective planetary organism that is capable of moving through the sea of creation, no longer under the domination of orbital physics. This is one possibility for a “new earth”.
It is interesting how it is that some of us have inputs or insights from non-ordinary states of knowing. It is also so very interesting when years later, 3-d science finds these things to be possible or even more so that it may be true !
Free-Floating Planets May Be More Common Than Stars
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/18may_orphanplanets/
May 18, 2011: Astronomers have discovered a new class of Jupiter-sized planets floating alone in the dark of space, away from the light of a star. The team believes these lone worlds are probably outcasts from developing planetary systems and, moreover, they could be twice as numerous as the stars themselves.
"Although free-floating planets have been predicted, they finally have been detected," said Mario Perez, exoplanet program scientist at NASA Headquarters in Washington. "[This has] major implications for models of planetary formation and evolution."
The discovery is based on a joint Japan-New Zealand survey that scanned the center of the Milky Way galaxy during 2006 and 2007, revealing evidence for up to 10 free-floating planets roughly the mass of Jupiter. The isolated orbs, also known as orphan planets, are difficult to spot, and had gone undetected until now. The planets are located at an average approximate distance of 10,000 to 20,000 light years from Earth.
This could be just the tip of the iceberg. The team estimates there are about twice as many free-floating Jupiter-mass planets as stars. In addition, these worlds are thought to be at least as common as planets that orbit stars. This adds up to hundreds of billions of lone planets in our Milky Way galaxy alone.
"Our survey is like a population census," said David Bennett, a NASA and National Science Foundation-funded co-author of the study from the University of Notre Dame in South Bend, Ind. "We sampled a portion of the galaxy, and based on these
data, can estimate overall numbers in the galaxy."
The study, led by Takahiro Sumi from Osaka University in Japan, appears in the May 19 issue of the journal Nature. The survey is not sensitive to planets smaller than Jupiter and Saturn, but theories suggest lower-mass planets like Earth should be ejected from their stars more often. As a result, they are thought to be more common than free-floating Jupiters.
Previous observations spotted a handful of free-floating planet-like objects within star-forming clusters, with masses three times that of Jupiter. But scientists suspect the gaseous bodies form more like stars than planets. These small, dim orbs, called brown dwarfs, grow from collapsing balls of gas and dust, but lack the mass to ignite their nuclear fuel and shine with starlight. It is thought the smallest brown dwarfs are approximately the size of large planets.
A video from JPL describes the microlensing technique astronomers used to detect the orphan planets. http://www.nasa.gov/topics/universe/features/planet20110518-video.html
On the other hand, it is likely that some planets are ejected from their early, turbulent solar systems, due to close gravitational encounters with other planets or stars. Without a star to circle, these planets would move through the galaxy as our sun and others stars do, in stable orbits around the galaxy's center. The discovery of 10 free-floating Jupiters supports the ejection scenario, though it's possible both mechanisms are at play.
"If free-floating planets formed like stars, then we would have expected to see only one or two of them in our survey instead of 10," Bennett said. "Our results suggest that planetary systems often become unstable, with planets being kicked out from their places of birth."
The observations cannot rule out the possibility that some of these planets may be in orbit around distant stars, but other research indicates Jupiter-mass planets in such distant orbits are rare.
The survey, the Microlensing Observations in Astrophysics (MOA), is named in part after a giant wingless, extinct bird family from New Zealand called the moa. A 5.9-foot (1.8-meter) telescope at Mount John University Observatory in New Zealand is used to regularly scan the copious stars at the center of our galaxy for gravitational microlensing events. These occur when something, such as a star or planet, passes in front of another more distant star. The passing body's gravity warps the light of the background star, causing it to magnify and brighten. Heftier passing bodies, like massive stars, will warp the light of the background star to a greater extent,resulting in brightening events that can last weeks. Small planet-size bodies will cause less of a distortion, and brighten a star for only a few days or less.
A second microlensing survey group, the Optical Gravitational Lensing Experiment (OGLE), contributed to this discovery using a 4.2-foot (1.3 meter) telescope in Chile. The OGLE group also observed many of the same events, and their observations independently confirmed the analysis of the MOA group.
For more information about exoplanet research, visit http://planetquest.jpl.nasa.gov/
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blanchedubois
Creighton, PA
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...continued:
Another article on Free-Floating Planets:
So many lonely planets with no star to guide them
Our Galaxy may be full of worlds without a sun to call their own.
Nadia Drake
http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110518/full/news.2011.303.html
Free-floating planets may be more common in our Galaxy than stars.
NASA/JPL-Caltech/R. Hurt"
Scattered about the Milky Way are floating, Jupiter-mass objects, which are likely to be planets wandering around the Galaxy's core instead of orbiting host stars. But these planets aren't rare occurrences in the interstellar sea: the drifters might be nearly twice as numerous as the most common stars.
"This is an amazing result, and if it's right, the implications for planet formation are profound," says astronomer Debra Fischer at Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut.
To find the wanderers, scientists turned their telescopes towards the Galactic Bulge surrounding the centre of the Milky Way. Using a technique called gravitational microlensing, they detected 10 Jupiter-mass planets wandering far from light-giving stars. Then they estimated the total number of such rogue planets, based on detection efficiency, microlensing-event probability and the relative rate of lensing caused by stars or planets. They concluded that there could be as many as 400 billion of these wandering planets, far outnumbering main-sequence stars such as our Sun. Their work is published today in Nature1.
Unexpected bounty
Study author Takahiro Sumi, an astrophysicist at Osaka University in Japan, says the deduced number of homeless exoplanets surprised him. "The existence of free-floating planets has been predicted by planetary formation theory, but nobody knew how many there are," he says.
And because current theories of planet formation hold that lower-mass planets are more readily flung from developing planetary systems than are higher-mass planets, there could be a huge number of lighter planets on the loose. "They might be littering the Galaxy," says Fischer.
Sumi and scientists from the Microlensing Observations in Astrophysics (MOA) and Optical Gravitational Lensing Experiment (OGLE) collaborations used gravitational microlensing to detect the planets. Microlensing involves measuring changes in the brightness of distant, background stars as a passing planet's gravity bends and magnifies the starlight. As a result, the star brightens and fades in a pattern distinct from random twinkling, and the duration of brightening indicates the mass of the magnifying object.
Gregory Laughlin, an astronomer at the University of California at Santa Cruz, says the authors have done a good job of ruling out other possible explanations for the light-distorting objects. But he adds that it's difficult to speculate about the number of unbound, lower-mass planets on the basis of the wandering Jupiters, because that assumes that they were formed by a similar mechanism to planets in our neighbourhood. "I think we might be seeing a different formation mechanism here, something more similar to that of a tiny star than a giant planet," he says. "But that's just a hypothesis."
Life on the road
Planetary scientist David Stevenson at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena has considered how the temperatures on ejected planets might compare with those on star-bound bodies2. If Jupiter were kicked out of the Solar System, its surface temperature would drop by only about 15 kelvin, he says – although it would still be unsuitable for supporting life. However, "when you eject a planet that is quite massive, it could have carried along an orbiting body", Stevenson adds. "And that might be a more attractive possibility for life."
Unbound Earth-mass planets might still be capable of carrying liquid water, Stevenson says, even in the frozen reaches of interstellar space – as long as they have a heat-trapping hydrogen atmosphere. "That can bring the surface temperature up to 300 kelvin [about 27 °C]," he says. "And then you can have oceans."
Study author David Bennett, an astrophysicist at the University of Notre Dame in Indiana, agrees that life could exist on these wandering worlds. He says that the next steps in the search include confirming the absence of host stars and looking through new data for the footprints of smaller, Saturn- or Neptune-mass planets.
In the future, drifting Earth-mass planets could be detected using NASA's planned Wide-Field Infrared Survey Telescope (WFIRST), a space-based telescope capable of resolving the more rapid bright blips associated with lower-mass objects. "Detecting Earth-mass unbound planets?" says Scott Gaudi, an astrophysicist at the Ohio State University in Columbus. "That would be very interesting."
References
The Microlensing Observations in Astrophysics (MOA) Collaboration & The Optical Gravitational Lensing Experiment (OGLE) Collaboration. Nature 473, 349-352 (2011).
Stevenson, D. J. Nature 400, 32 (1999).
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selfsong
Sarasota, FL
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I dont care .
The fact that we "want" to return proves that life is far better than ALL of the alternatives .
I have to agree with this, past lives if real is just that, past. If someone told me I was this or that I really do not care or know how that will help me, now. This life I have now is what I want to understand, what I want to grow in, know.
Sometimes I do think my one and only past life was a rock on Pluto, slow of thought, sluggish and I relive that life every morning before coffee
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_ourself_
Hamilton, ON
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not ALL claim to be the same gender, but those you have talked to may more closly identify with their current sex because its what they feel most. but we incarnate in either sex depending on what our goals are. if we are evolved we may choose our next incarnation and undertake a difficult one to help our own evolution or someone elses, by setting an example good or bad. (theres always something to be learned). we need many lessons from many places from pauper or leper or hermet etc. to prince etc. how can you know what something is like if you've never been there done that???? this is evolving because it is learning.
on a slightly different view of many lives, it would never pay to commit suicide because if this lesson is hard you could come back next time to a harder one. sometimes these other lives are choosen for you.
i think that one of the reasons we only use something like 6 or 7% of our brain could be that the rest stores info from all of our past lives.
It seems to me I was able to recall a past life and I wasn't just the opposite sex but my skin colour was different.
I bolded that one sentence because it's actually just a myth. We use all of our brain.
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nonstandard
York, PA
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It seems to me I was able to recall a past life and I wasn't just the opposite sex but my skin colour was different.
I bolded that one sentence because it's actually just a myth. We use all of our brain.
I AM inclined to beleive that consiousness uses only 5% of the brain .
[Edited 6/15/2011 6:50:35 PM ]
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protector37
Mc Louth, KS
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I do beleave in Reincarnation. I think some times that if you messed up in a past life some times you are givin a 2nd chance to fix are not repeat it. I have posted once before of this in a driffrent topic. My self feel that I don't belong in this time line. I feel much more at home in a medevil seting. Wich to me explans why I have joined a medevil living history group and can use a sword and axe without any training it's like I have used them before.
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we0001
Kane, PA
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A someone that's a doctor in the Philosophy of Metaphysics, I know that reincarnation is fact, not fiction.
Look at it in a scientific way, what happens to matter? It never completely goes away right?
Your body is used in the Earth, and the energy (or soul) relives again and again.
Ask yourselves why some people are wiser than others. Could it really be just due to nature and nurture of one life? Do genetics really allow people to know or just what's going on outside of themselves?
As someone that had been Catholic, Atheist, and is now spiritual I understand my connection to the Creator Soul more so now than when I was religious and obviously more so than as an Atheist. Being an Atheist helped clear my mind and heart of what everyone else wanted me to think of the Creator Soul and I was guided to where I am today. Maybe that's why there are so many Atheists now-a-days. 
I've had my fair share in dealing with people's egos.
If you have any questions, feel free to private message me.
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wnnadance
Belle Plaine, KS
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I do beleave in Reincarnation. I think some times that if you messed up in a past life some times you are givin a 2nd chance to fix are not repeat it. I have posted once before of this in a driffrent topic. My self feel that I don't belong in this time line. I feel much more at home in a medevil seting. Wich to me explans why I have joined a medevil living history group and can use a sword and axe without any training it's like I have used them before.
entirely possible. if we pay attention we feel thing that just feel right or maybe wrong. there are so many things that can be explained by reincarnation.
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briannab88
Saskatoon, SK
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I know it's weird but it's real I think I was a bald eagle I have a weird fascination with them I can't figure what else it would be other than thats what I was in my past life. Does anyone think they were a animal in there past life? I do! It sounds crazy but I'm sure it's true.
Bri
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lookin4ones
Hurst, TX
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True
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vampiremistress
Los Angeles, CA
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why is your name twohawks are u native american?
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excitedebate
Gainesville, FL
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I dont know and cant figure out why it would be .Are there a limited number of souls to go around ? Does the ultimate being believe in recycling ?
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vampiremistress
Los Angeles, CA
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u can stick ur consciousness in anyone u want if u know how and if they let you.
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mystic_shadow
Newport, TN
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What is it called when a child says they recognize a place or road or an area of country they have never been to before, yet can discribe it in great detail before they even get there?
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nonstandard
York, PA
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What is it called when a child says they recognize a place or road or an area of country they have never been to before, yet can discribe it in great detail before they even get there?
Do you mean deja-vu ?
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nonstandard
York, PA
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Is reincarnation a "need" or a "want" ?
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angelic_woman
Concord, NC
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Truth in my opinion,past lives exist..soulmates are part of that,karma also..past life readings &things of that sort..it may be connected with the possible multiverse scientific theory..but anyways my answer is I believe (Truth) also explains dejavoo lol
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kar1sma
Clifton, NJ
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mischiefmanaged
Bellevue, WA
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What is it called when a child says they recognize a place or road or an area of country they have never been to before, yet can discribe it in great detail before they even get there?
If they know before, then that's something akin to precognition (knowing before).
If they are experiencing an event and recall a similar event, that's deja vu. I always thought it was spelled deja vous. with a silent "s". Apparently it's deja vu (with french accent marks that I'm not going to try and look up). I get precognition occasionally. Depending on the event I can tell you what will happen Next. My daughter does too. Freaks people out when we tell them what's coming around the corner, then whatever we said happens.
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mischiefmanaged
Bellevue, WA
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u can stick ur consciousness in anyone u want if u know how and if they let you.
or you can just do it. But then they have access to you too. I used to do it at the mall. people would literally stop and turn around with a "wtf?" expression. Kind of interesting. we do this subconsciously already. except for probably autistic kids.
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nonstandard
York, PA
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The desire to do these things is a trick your own mind does to itself .
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dunrich4
Brantford, ON
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twohawks
not ALL claim to be the same gender, but those you have talked to may more closly identify with their current sex because its what they feel most. but we incarnate in either sex depending on what our goals are. if we are evolved we may choose our next incarnation and undertake a difficult one to help our own evolution or someone elses, by setting an example good or bad. (theres always something to be learned). we need many lessons from many places from pauper or leper or hermet etc. to prince etc. how can you know what something is like if you've never been there done that???? this is evolving because it is learning.
I have thought about this a lot.
I think, love and the failure of love,,,,,can achieve all those things.
on a slightly different view of many lives, it would never pay to commit suicide because if this lesson is hard you could come back next time to a harder one. sometimes these other lives are choosen for you.
I agree. However, I suspect that we take what we escape from, can follow us into the other side of the 'veil" when we are in spirit form.
But I am starting to think that its possible some are allowed to address these in another life.
Reading a book by Deepak Chopra, I started to understand some of my reservations about erincarnation a little better.
This phenomenon where evry one thinks they were someone important in a previous life for example.
Lets say, one served a Pharoah in some ay, and really admired the person. I can understand, that they might remember glimpses of him,,,,so then assume because they remembered him,,,,,that they were that Pharoa in a [revious life.
For my self, I have a facination with General Brock and the shawnee Chief Tecumseh that has been with me since I can recall.
But that doesnt mean, I was one or the other,,,,,Just that, maybe I served them is some way,,,or followed them some way,,,,,So, this thing about every one thinking they were an important person, does make sense now.
I am kinda starting to warm to the concept,,,,,,Just not a believer that its all to work of Kharma though,,,,,,But to become completed,,,solve issues ?,,,,,I am starting to warm to the concept some what.
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scarlettxxx
Mesa, AZ
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I believe it's truth
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nonstandard
York, PA
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Buddha mind inhabits all forms of life . Plants , animals , insects , whatever lives , and they ALL adore life .
Humans , on the other hand , have an excessive amount of intelligence that is required for survival . This extra intelligence , while very handy , can also wreck havoc on the Buddha mind .
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nonstandard
York, PA
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Buddha mind is simply the ability to love life , and every form of life possesses it .
When corruption occurs in humans (or any life form that uses intelligence) they lose the ability to cherish the life they have , the lives of others , and all other forms of life .
Keeping and nourishing the Buddha mind that we currently share with all life , is the very thing that determines what was or what will be .
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dunrich4
Brantford, ON
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Been thinking an reading a lot about this.
I am ctually finding referances of reincarnation in the Bible. \\The first great theologian of the Eastern Orthodx church was Origen, who was a great defender of ther conepts of pre existance and reincarnation.
Jesus him self, mentions reincarnation:
Matthew 17:10-13
New International Version (NIV)
10 The disciples asked him, “Why then do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?”
11 Jesus replied, “To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things. 12 But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him everything they wished. In the same way the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.” 13 Then the disciples understood that he was talking to them about John the Baptist.
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fallen1amore
Cottonwood, AZ
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Hi everyone...
I've been researching this alot for the past yr. and one book that hits on this is "Seth Speaks" by jane roberts.
I've had experiences that would seem to indicate my knowing of a past person.
Im still a little torn on the soul of a person after death.
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mr_crowley
Aynor, SC
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Fallen why is it that you try to come off as a christian in the "religion" forum, but then come here and try to portray yourself as something other then christian?
Your post here and in the samhain thread reflect ideas that most of the "christians" in the religion forum associate strictly with atheists and Satanists?
Are you using any avenue you can to find a new woman to sponge off?
Either way you're a fake and a hypocrite.
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