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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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sorry about cup yall she must be off her med
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onemoretime2c
Boca Grande, FL
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sounds like the name of a law firm!!!!! 
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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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What if a man was talking with a woman real serious on here and making plans for the future.
Then he turns around and hides the fact he is also spending weekends with someone else.
Then has two women stay the weekend with him all this time hiding it from the lady he is making plans with. What does that make him and what does that make the women.
Now turn it around the women also knew he was real serious with this lady, and they did not care one bit what she might even think about all this nor did they care.
So what would that make them IMO that makes them no better than a two bit street walker standing on the Conner
More to follow later
Now part two
This lady and I had been talking for a year or so. We planned to meet and her Mother had a turn for the worse so it was all postponed. But we talked every day, sometimes 4 to 5 times a day hours on end and made many plans for a future together. What gets me is she use to talk so bad about this man and how he played all the women and she couldn't stand that. I didn't know they were also talking on the phone and had met and spent multiples weekend with each other before it was all exposed on line. When I saw the picture of Her, this man and another lady posted I was really hurt and shocked. I had no idea about them planning to meet. She called me right after the picture was posted and was begging me not to be upset about it. I ask her how hurt the other lady was going to be she said she didn't care how anyone felt about it. It sure was a slap in the face though.
I am glad I found out before one of us made a permanent move.
I could write a book but I won’t
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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dayum ... What a whine for a man. Even for a man who looks in the mirror and stills thinks his body looks good for age. ..... LMAO
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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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so cup I take you think Lying, cheating and being deceitful is ok or or you that way also
please stay out of my threads I have done flaged your bad post and reported you to dustin.
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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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one is not any better that the other
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xviiiviviii
Rogers, AR
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dang she must be that jeff fellow old lady
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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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she just might be
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just_zoe1958
Burlington, VT
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OP ..... UMMMM ...... which one am I really speaking to ....... oh well .... never ...... mind ....... smile
I think she bored herself to death
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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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I hope so
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just_zoe1958
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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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What if a man was talking with a woman real serious on here and making plans for the future.
Then he turns around and hides the fact he is also spending weekends with someone else.
Then has two women stay the weekend with him all this time hiding it from the lady he is making plans with. What does that make him and what does that make the women.
Now turn it around the women also knew he was real serious with this lady, and they did not care one bit what she might even think about all this nor did they care.
So what would that make them IMO that makes them no better than a two bit street walker standing on the Conner
More to follow later
Now part two
This lady and I had been talking for a year or so. We planned to meet and her Mother had a turn for the worse so it was all postponed. But we talked every day, sometimes 4 to 5 times a day hours on end and made many plans for a future together. What gets me is she use to talk so bad about this man and how he played all the women and she couldn't stand that. I didn't know they were also talking on the phone and had met and spent multiples weekend with each other before it was all exposed on line. When I saw the picture of Her, this man and another lady posted I was really hurt and shocked. I had no idea about them planning to meet. She called me right after the picture was posted and was begging me not to be upset about it. I ask her how hurt the other lady was going to be she said she didn't care how anyone felt about it. It sure was a slap in the face though.
I am glad I found out before one of us made a permanent move.
I could write a book but I won’t
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just_zoe1958
Burlington, VT
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"I still consider you my real good friend no matter what...
x-mas is up in the air yet..please don't plan anything around me..I feel so bad...I don't want to lead you on...but I would like to meet you..."
Was that a lie, too? Or did it change when you couldn't control or make me do everything you asked me to? I couldn't because I found it too cruel.
What happened to my little brother? What happened to the guy who claimed he defended disabled children when he was young? What happened to that sweet person, I thought I knew? Was it all make-believe?
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texas_dude2010
Jacksonville, TX
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My favorite quote by Mark Twain, "The only problem with mankind...is mankind."
Post in this tread really brings it home huh? Being upfront and honest is soooo much better. 
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dimplesdance
Salem, MO
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If I know this is occuring. I walk away.. and let go!
No time to waste on anger and vengefulness. That just brings me
down. Being vengeful I think makes me as bad as the person that
may have wronged me.
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just_zoe1958
Burlington, VT
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Thanks Dimples. It just makes me sad. I loved him like a little brother. To be knock down and called names by your little brother hurts more than some stranger saying it.
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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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Zoe I don't think he will ever change
the things he has done is just mean and hateful
sorry 
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dimplesdance
Salem, MO
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Zoe, I know how things hurt.... my point is I myself can not let what other people do affect me badly. I as many others have real issues, life and death type issues that make all this drama stuff seem trifle to me. I have to let it go when it happens to me to save my energy to give to my real loved ones..... I am not being hateful or making someone elses pain seem insignificant, just explaining how I have to deal with that kind of pain... I have to let it go.. forgive but never forget....
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darlenemi51
West Branch, MI
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Lieing, cheating and being deceitful is what most people expect and always see it in others, if it is true or not. I have found being honest doesn't win you any friends but,
the ones you do have are usually true friends.
Most days remembering the truth is hard enough, there's no way I can remember a pack of lies.
What a tangled web we weave, when we practice to deceive.
If a person is still actively doing this then they are just too immature, don't allow
them to color your opinion of everyone you meet you will only lose.
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jestalookin
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rfhar_54
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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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some will never change
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onemoretime2c
Boca Grande, FL
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and more feathers!
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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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good one lookiing
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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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It's a way of life for a few
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just_zoe1958
Burlington, VT
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As long as we have a few really good friends, that don't behave like that, everything will be okay in the end.
They will help you find your inner strength to move past the self-absorbed people.
lying, dishonest people will never change and will never hear you ask, "why?"
Why, is because they can and are interested in only immediate self-gradification.
Stand tall and proud!
You know you are better than them!
THEY know you are better than them, too.
Just watch as they run from relationship to relationship
looking for something they will never find.
Look at who YOU are!
Listen to yourself and your friends, who stood by your side through it all.
They know you are beautiful and worthwhile.
Smile from the inside out.
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1stardust
Saratoga Springs, UT
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This is my personal experience, if a person is lying, cheating and being deceitful, they really are lying to themselves, cheating themselves and deceiving themselves.
Bottom line, though they may hurt others in the process. Most of all they hurt themselves the most.
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plans4two
Norfolk, NE
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JMO but I think sometimes people get caught up in their own lies and start believing them. They blame other people. They hold themselves blameless because of their self-centered attitude. It's all about ME, ME, ME to them. They don't tell you something because they think by not telling you it is not lying....but that is where the deceitfulness comes in.
When this happens to you it is hurtful and hard to forget, let alone forgive. But you pick yourself up and you hold your head high and you go on.....without them....if that is what you choose to do.
The choice is yours....you are the one that knows if you can live with that person and trust them again.
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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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JMO but I think sometimes people get caught up in their own lies and start believing them. They blame other people. They hold themselves blameless because of their self-centered attitude. It's all about ME, ME, ME to them. They don't tell you something because they think by not telling you it is not lying....but that is where the deceitfulness comes in.
When this happens to you it is hurtful and hard to forget, let alone forgive. But you pick yourself up and you hold your head high and you go on.....without them....if that is what you choose to do.
The choice is yours....you are the one that knows if you can live with that person and trust them again.
I would never trust that person again. I could have like her and tell everything that she ever told me but I didn't. I shall never forget and not sure if I will ever forgive.
When she not only told what happen she also said she didn't care how it made another lady feel. Were is her heart or does she even have one.
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plans4two
Norfolk, NE
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I know it is hard to forgive. But forgiveness is about letting go and freeing yourself from the hold they have on you. Because without forgiveness you will never be truely free. JMO. You don't have to forgive and like what they did and foregiving doesn't mean that you are ok with what they did. It frees your heart and mind to go on and live your life without that bitterness. My ex put the kids and I thru hell by introducing us to his "friend" that he met thru the YMCA and then to her family (she was married). This was the way they could spend time together. WOW....what a wake up call when I finally figured it out....2 years later. Lots of people were hurt, including my kids. Talk about selfish, self-centeredness.
Be glad you found out now and can move forward.  
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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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That is true plans but it is hard when they just won't stop.
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plans4two
Norfolk, NE
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You're right RF. It is hard. It is something that takes time. Mine didn't stop. He moved out of my house into hers (because her husband died a week after he left my home) FREAK ACCIDENT and I have to see them every week at my son's football game until the season is over. But I have let them quit controlling my life. I choose to hold my head high and not be intimidated by their presence. My kids are the focal point and he is still their father.
I do find it quite amusing though...everytime I get a new hair color(yes, I color my hair ) that within a week her color changes to match mine. 
I am your friend and I wish you all the best. Forgiveness is hard. It took me a very long time and I am not all there yet but God willing I will get there.
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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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Thank you plans I appreciate it very much
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plans4two
Norfolk, NE
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You are very welcome my friend.
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just_zoe1958
Burlington, VT
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It's best to let it go because the liars and cheats will never admit what they did.
Even if you caught them in bed together they would deny it. Count your blessing that the trash is gone from your life.
For me, the lazy bum didn't want to work but stay home and drink. He just blamed it on his ex-wife. I stood by him as a support. He became angry as I slowly became stronger and found my own voice. Well, to heck with him! He can sweet talk some trashy person to take over for me.
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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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you do have a point zoe glad it gone
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mrusedup
Boss, MO
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Was reading this this morning:
8 Words that Most Liars Use
Odds are, you and your guy have a great relationship, and the only lies he tells are little fibs. But it's good to know how to spot the signs he could be telling a whopper. Lie detection expert Janine Driver, author of the new book, You Can't Lie to Me, fills us in on the words that give away a liar.
By Korin Miller
"Left"
Sure, sometimes 'left' is the only word you can use in a situation, but there's some kind of drama involved when he uses it in place of another word that will do (think: "I left the bar at six" vs. "I went home at six"). It could be due to his desire to "leave" the lie behind.
"Never"
The big thing to look out for is when he says "never" when "no" will do. It's a sign he's overcompensating. For example, if you ask, "Did you just look at that girl's butt?" and he says, "Never!"
"That"
Like never, it depends on how he uses it. If he puts "that" in front of a noun, like "that woman" or "that money," it's a subconscious attempt for him to distance himself from the word. This is a common trick of manipulators.
"Would"
If he skips "no" and goes straight to "I would never do something like that!" when talking about a past event, be wary. For example, "Are you still talking to your ex?" "I would never do that to you!" "Would never" suggests that he plans to do it in the future.
"Yes, ma'am"
If your guy is a Southern gentleman, then this doesn't apply. But if he suddenly says "ma'am" to you out of nowhere, be cautious. It's a sign that he feels like he's feeling stressed and knows he's in trouble.
"By the way…"
Liars use phrases like this to try to minimize what they say next-but usually it's what's most important to the story. Pay extra attention to what he says afterward.
"But"
Liars usually try to downplay what they say with this word, so pay attention when he says something like, "I know this is going to sound strange, but…" or "I know you think I'm lying, but…"
"Why would I do that?"
It's a favorite stalling line of liars, so they can buy a little time to work out what to say next. These phrases also fit the bill: "What kind of person do you think I am?", "Are you calling me a liar?", and "I knew this was going to happen to me!"
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By the way I would never do her butt that’s why I left ma’am
Liar, liar, pants on fire...
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dimplesdance
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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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woe is me now you know I left at 6 and I would never slept with her
and that the truth.
yes mama I know you were out there but I never now why would I do that.
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redwhiteblue2
Jonesboro, AR
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no difference you lie because you cheat then you just keep going it never stop's one lie leds you to more then more cheating its called being human
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rfhar_54
Fouke, AR
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that just about sumed it up
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just_zoe1958
Burlington, VT
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Her lifestyle:
My lifestyle, lol
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2dayistheday
Gadsden, AL
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I cheated an got in
front
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2dayistheday
Gadsden, AL
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You cheated an broke line
dont break again
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just_ct
Rome, GA
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I took a class in college for business communications, it was named 'Economics of the Lie'.
In which the investment and risk each person subconciously assesses before they
either lie or tell the truth was the subject.
And it seems that 80% of the time a person will lie when they feel that
the truth will not be rewarded. IE: if they confess the truth,
the result will have no benifit. The b*tching, and punishment will be no lesser
than if they are caught lying about the subject.
There is also the most human hope that the lie will never be found out.
Where if they told the truth and confess then there is no hope of avoiding retribution.
Just something for ya'll to roll around in your little heads.
So why does someone lie? Because they know the truth truly won't set them free.
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just_ct
Rome, GA
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A prime example of the risk reward aspect to lying would be the ages old
familiar question... 'Honey, do these jeans make my butt look big?'
A. You can be honorable and tell the truth. Look her in the eye and just say...
'No baby the jeans are fine. It's the three pizzas a week that your eating that
makes your butt look enormous."
B. You can lie and avoid sleeping on the couch for a month and a life without sex.
Risk and reward.
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just_zoe1958
Burlington, VT
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You can always soften it with a little wordsmithing by saying that style of jeans doesn't look good on you or I think you look nicer in a dress, it shows off you beautiful legs.
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2dayistheday
Gadsden, AL
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I like your legs feet on one end just the way I like them
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just_ct
Rome, GA
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You can always soften it with a little wordsmithing by saying that style of jeans doesn't look good on you or I think you look nicer in a dress, it shows off you beautiful legs.
So what you're saying is make up a creative lie.
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just_zoe1958
Burlington, VT
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Your not really lying but avoiding or softening the truth. Even a woman with a large butt can look better in certain styles of jeans or finding something about her that looks good in another kind of clothing. Focusing on the possitive instead of the negative.
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just_ct
Rome, GA
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Also when 'wordsmithing' go ahead and pull out all the stops and go for broke.
"No dear, (in my eyes) you are still the unmatched beauty that you were when I met you."
Heeheehee you'd know this stuff if you were a guy.
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just_zoe1958
Burlington, VT
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Nawwwww. You would say, you are still the beautiful, sweet woman I fell in love with all those years ago. And she will be
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lurkinaround
Tombstone, AZ
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If you love her she is beautiful..
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2dayistheday
Gadsden, AL
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Also when 'wordsmithing' go ahead and pull out all the stops and go for broke.
"No dear, (in my eyes) you are still the unmatched beauty that you were when I met you."
Heeheehee you'd know this stuff if you were a guy. 
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plans4two
Norfolk, NE
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If you love her she is beautiful..
I thought my ex was the most handsome guy in the world until he cheated on me and I saw the ugliness inside. Now I just think he is ugly inside and outside.
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lurkinaround
Tombstone, AZ
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@plans4two...I'm sorry that happened to you..I am fortunate in that while married neither cheated...and if we remarry it will be the same..
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just_zoe1958
Burlington, VT
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I agree 100%
Some would say the guy I loved was ugly but in my eyes he never was
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plans4two
Norfolk, NE
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@plans4two...I'm sorry that happened to you..I am fortunate in that while married neither cheated...and if we remarry it will be the same..
aww thanks lurking. I still believe in love and hope to find someone
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