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8/24/2012 12:06:56 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

rfhar_54
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How do you define them.
Would you condone them




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8/24/2012 12:08:30 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
jestalookin
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woah---a deep thread pal.

I gotta think about this one

8/24/2012 12:09:08 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
redwhiteblue2
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cheating big deal cant have
that

8/24/2012 12:31:55 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
shaggyoledog
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Look in the dictionary under DH...





8/24/2012 12:35:04 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
redwhiteblue2
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all is bad but cheating is the most you could do to hurt anybody

8/24/2012 12:39:01 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

cissyluv
Waltham, MA
64, joined Apr. 2007


Quote from rfhar_54:
How do you define them.
Would you condone them


I really dislike all three. If you are cheating you are lying and being deceitful. If you are deceitful you don't necessarily have to be cheating but you are being misleading about something. Are you lying if you are being deceitful? Probably. I don't condone any of them. I'm an open book and expect others to be honest with me if I let them into my life. Once an adult lies, cheats, or deceits me, he/she is history. I'll be polite but never again let him/her be a part of my life.

8/24/2012 12:41:25 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

hugandakiss_xo
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Quote from shaggyoledog:
Look in the dictionary under DH...






I agree 100%

8/24/2012 3:09:03 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
cupocheer
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RF ... Are you really the OP of this thread? hmmmmm

8/24/2012 3:15:34 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

sorpstar
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and a funny/ could this be anyone on here



8/24/2012 3:20:31 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
blooking4u2
Blakeslee, PA
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Sounds like washington vote them out

8/24/2012 4:14:25 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
lbdays
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Sweet Home, OR
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Just be nice and don't have anything to do wtih them.
I don't have time for games. Not getting any younger. JMO

8/24/2012 8:11:22 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

rfhar_54
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true none of us is getting any younger LB

8/24/2012 8:13:39 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
girlfromok
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Lying, cheating, being deceitful, KICK EM to the curb!!!!

8/24/2012 8:18:27 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
joangel60
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No..I have never condoned them and I never will.. I don't understand why people especially at our age would feel the need to lie, cheat and be deceitful.. I would think it takes to much energy to play these games...So I do not like to waste unneccessary energy for such matters...Live...Love...Laugh!!!

8/24/2012 8:59:16 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

rfhar_54
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It always amaze me that the one lying, cheating or being deceitful.
Always try to make it look like it someone else fault.

8/24/2012 9:17:23 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
lbdays
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rf it takes two.
There is his story, her story, than there's the truth.

8/24/2012 9:18:04 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
blueshortcake2
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So you heard that too, Ib. That is what I usually say.

8/24/2012 10:27:26 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

heatherness
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Quote from lbdays:

There is his story, her story, than there's the truth.


You got that right!!

8/25/2012 3:44:46 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

rfhar_54
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8/25/2012 10:19:11 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

rfhar_54
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What if a man was talking with a woman real serious on here and making plans for the future.
Then he turns around and hides the fact he is also spending weekends with someone else.
Then has two women stay the weekend with him all this time hiding it from the lady he is making plans with. What does that make him and what does that make the women.
Now turn it around the women also knew he was real serious with this lady, and they did not care one bit what she might even think about all this nor did they care.
So what would that make them IMO that makes them no better than a two bit street walker standing on the Conner
More to follow later

8/25/2012 10:50:22 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
blueshortcake2
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RF, why are you letting this destroy you? It is over and done with. Please for your own sake, let it go, put it behind you before you become cold and bitter.

The male in question is an adult. If he chose to betray the one he was serious (?) with, he is the one who has to live with the consequences.

The female, that was spending time with the male is also an adult. She made her choice, she has to deal with it too. There are unanswered question that should be answered if this is going to be in public threads for all to see.

I- Did the man actually tell the woman he was serious about moving in with her? Or was it just assumed? (Please do not jump me on this injured lady, it is only a question for clarification)
2- Did the man hide the fact of the first woman from the second woman so he could entice her to his abode?
3- What was the purpose of these meetings? (from experience, I do that there are many platonic relationships. That friends will allow a friend to stay with them rather than have that friend have to spend dollars on a motel. Fact--I have male and female friends that I let stay in one of my guest rooms when in town as I know funds are slim these days. That DOES NOT mean anything is going on other than helping someone out.)
4- Was the woman in question really in a committed relationship with another man? Or was it assumed, or hopeful? Again, this is only for clarification purposes only to get to the truth).
5- What about the other two females involved? Somewhere in the threads it was stated there was a Meet. There traveling plans were upset, this male offered them a place to stay overnight. Does that really have to mean something happened amongst them other than friendship?
6- Was this all kept from the injured parties or was it a impromtu invite following mislaid plans and the parties involved simply didn't think about conferring with others as they were trying to find a solution for unforeseen events in travel?
7- How did the injured parties find out? Through the grapevine or after the fact from the parties involved? If the latter, then it was not in a deceitful manner.

I'm just sorry that all this happened. That it has hurt many persons. That it has disrupted the threads. That it had dragged so many into the fray.........It has made many members skiddish about posting at all. Myself included.It would be nice if all parties involved could sit on their hands, quit pointing a finger and listen to what the others have to say. Most of all....take this in private so the site can be what it was made for.

8/25/2012 11:05:49 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
cupocheer
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DH 101

8/25/2012 11:29:39 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
1stardust
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Paths cross for a reason.
You pick yourself up, brush yourself off, learn from the lesson and move on.
Not always easy, the growing process can be painful, but in the end your stronger and wiser.
What's done is done.

I agree with Blue, let it go Rf
Not here in the threads.

If I have a problem I usually discuss it with my sister, or someone I can trust.


Moving on,

8/25/2012 1:06:38 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
just_zoe1958
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1)Yes, it was serious and there was plans made to move in together.
2) No, she knew about the other woman he was planning to have live with him.
3)The meet up was an excuse for another sexual encounter. This was posted all over the threads so there was no doubt of the reason for the meet up.
4)Yes, there was 2 years chatting, 9 months of seriousness and planning.
5) Again, yes. It was posted that this happened before.
6) No, she has a home in the same state as where the meet up was. If she has two homes, she has financial means and a place to stay.
7) Pictures were posted. The threesome boasted and said they were. I simply read it like everyone else.

I would never go to a meet up with someone I didn't know and stay with them, never. I won't go on a date with a man I just met unless I knew the place where I was meeting him and it was safe.

We cannot control the actions of others and they are resposible for their own behavior.

Rf, I know what they did was low. They deserve each other. Be thankful she did not come to live with you because she will continue to be like this. Sorry this behavior didn't come to light sooner so it would not have been such a heart break.
I think we would all let this rest as soon as the three stop harassing Rf. How about it, Jeff?

8/25/2012 1:34:16 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

sorpstar
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Quote from joangel60:
No..I have never condoned them and I never will.. I don't understand why people especially at our age would feel the need to lie, cheat and be deceitful.. I would think it takes to much energy to play these games...So I do not like to waste unneccessary energy for such matters...Live...Love...Laugh!!!



i'll have what she's drinking...is that ok...makes sense to me...

8/25/2012 2:58:11 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
jestalookin
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8/25/2012 3:00:53 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
laffwimme
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Dang, rules and more rules.......

8/25/2012 3:04:54 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
jestalookin
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8/25/2012 3:06:46 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
just_zoe1958
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8/25/2012 3:08:45 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
just_zoe1958
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But Jesta....cats are so cute!



[Edited 8/25/2012 3:09:31 PM ]

8/25/2012 3:08:59 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

bluecougareyes
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Quote from girlfromok:
Lying, cheating, being deceitful, KICK EM to the curb!!!!

.
Awww Hell !! ...

They will KICK you to the curb for most anything they find as their PERSONAL faults in any person. Like some one wearing the wrong shoes or being the wrong religion or being a TO Healthy of an Eater (a picky eater ?) or not having enough money to meet their expectations !!! ....

The Opposite sex can be just Vengeful, Nit-Piking and Judgmental !!

8/25/2012 3:13:29 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
just_zoe1958
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long time no see, Bluecougareyes.


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8/25/2012 3:17:34 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

bluecougareyes
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Quote from blooking4u2:
Sounds like washington vote them out


Yeah...That's about IT !!

Who really cares about being screwed by your date of mate.

When Washington DC, is screwing US ALL HARD 24/7 - 365 day over and over again.

8/25/2012 3:21:03 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

purplesky56
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seems like it happens a lot latley to me.. i don't like it at all

8/25/2012 3:24:32 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

bluecougareyes
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Quote from just_zoe1958:
long time no see, Bluecougareyes.


Photobucket


Sorry !

I don't remember you ! BUT HELLO ANY WAY
Refresh my memory !

AND... FYI - that " Quote " you posted in the pic, Is one of my most favorite, so TRUE !!
THANKS !!

( I am going to save that pic to my PC, files )

8/25/2012 3:26:06 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
jestalookin
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8/25/2012 4:11:59 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
binbasha
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Quote from jestalookin:
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isnt the second of realization great!!

8/25/2012 4:14:02 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
jestalookin
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8/25/2012 4:42:33 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
just_zoe1958
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Quote from bluecougareyes:
.
Awww Hell !! ...

They will KICK you to the curb for most anything they find as their PERSONAL faults in any person. Like some one wearing the wrong shoes or being the wrong religion or being a TO Healthy of an Eater (a picky eater ?) or not having enough money to meet their expectations !!! ....

The Opposite sex can be just Vengeful, Nit-Piking and Judgmental !!



Since you are the opposite gender.... are you?
Yes, I will walk away from anyone who abandons an pet in the woods.
I will walk away from anyone who physically or verbally abuses me or my cat.
Substance abuses who refuses treatment.
These are not personal faults but dangers that could harm me.

I have never turned my back on someone for the reasons you have listed.

8/25/2012 4:49:50 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
jestalookin
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8/25/2012 4:50:14 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
just_zoe1958
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Quote from bluecougareyes:
Yeah...That's about IT !!

Who really cares about being screwed by your date of mate.

When Washington DC, is screwing US ALL HARD 24/7 - 365 day over and over again.



Then change it! If you feel that strongly and can't change it, then how can I?
Haven't they always screwed us over? Life goes on and so do I.
BTW~ We talked in the past. I remember you, same picture. I guess I was a faceless person. Kind of like the government, huh?
I found my voice. I care about how others treat me and how others treat others. A revolution starts small, eh?

8/25/2012 4:58:02 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
jestalookin
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Let's just get plastered-

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8/25/2012 5:22:30 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
just_zoe1958
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I'll be speaking in some strange language just whiffing it

8/25/2012 6:42:15 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
cupocheer
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ho hum ... no comment .... smile

8/25/2012 7:47:28 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

rfhar_54
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Quote from jestalookin:
Let's just get plastered-

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sounds like a plan

8/25/2012 8:14:26 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
just_zoe1958
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Quote from jestalookin:
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That about sums it up.

8/26/2012 9:08:28 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

rfhar_54
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8/26/2012 9:57:26 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

rfhar_54
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that brick might hurt

8/27/2012 11:36:51 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
xviiiviviii
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watch out for that brick

8/27/2012 11:37:12 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

rfhar_54
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night everyone

8/27/2012 11:41:52 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
jestalookin
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U going to bed?

8/27/2012 11:42:39 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

rfhar_54
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not yet

8/27/2012 11:47:14 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
jestalookin
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me either

8/27/2012 11:48:14 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

rfhar_54
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read page two

8/28/2012 12:09:42 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
xviiiviviii
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Quote from rfhar_54:
What if a man was talking with a woman real serious on here and making plans for the future.
Then he turns around and hides the fact he is also spending weekends with someone else.
Then has two women stay the weekend with him all this time hiding it from the lady he is making plans with. What does that make him and what does that make the women.
Now turn it around the women also knew he was real serious with this lady, and they did not care one bit what she might even think about all this nor did they care.
So what would that make them IMO that makes them no better than a two bit street walker standing on the Conner
More to follow later

This is sad that happen but some people just don't care who they hurt

8/28/2012 12:10:48 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

rfhar_54
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that is the truth

8/28/2012 7:17:21 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

rfhar_54
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8/29/2012 4:43:35 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
xviiiviviii
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never condone them and anyone who cheat will always cheat.

8/29/2012 5:03:44 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  

rfhar_54
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not good that for sure

8/29/2012 5:43:07 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful  
cupocheer
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OP ..... UMMMM ...... which one am I really speaking to ....... oh well .... never ...... mind ....... smile