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9/3/2012 12:36:47 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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9/3/2012 1:16:46 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
izabo
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I believe in love!

As for lying I see both points. I personally would perfer the softening like no those jeans don't look as good on you as that other pair does. Also people should becareful of what they ask make sure you want to hear the answer. Now for the lies that come with cheating both are totally wrong. Lets say that the person doesn't lie about cheating and tells the truth their is the possiblity for some to forgive and go on. If they lie and the spouse finds out later the chance of forgiveness has droped out of the picture possible. If you love the person you are with you will not cheat on them. If you do it you must not love them the way you should. Here are the words to define deceitful... dishonest, deceiving, fraudulent, untrustworthy, cunning, lying, devious, cheating and faithless. I got these off of the bing dictionary. So no someone who is decietful is the worst of all.

9/3/2012 8:18:28 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
just_zoe1958
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That's so true! If you ask the question expect an honest answer. It may not be what you want to hear, lol. Deep down, you kind of knew the answer, though.

9/3/2012 8:23:09 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
just_zoe1958
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Quote from lurkinaround:
@plans4two...I'm sorry that happened to you..I am fortunate in that while married neither cheated...and if we remarry it will be the same..


I hope that works out for you. It is good to see someone who sticks by a commitment.
It is not often we see this side of a marriage because the ones happily married don't come here often to hear their side of the story.



[Edited 9/3/2012 8:23:45 AM ]

9/3/2012 11:47:25 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
xviiiviviii
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Quote from izabo:
I believe in love!

As for lying I see both points. I personally would perfer the softening like no those jeans don't look as good on you as that other pair does. Also people should becareful of what they ask make sure you want to hear the answer. Now for the lies that come with cheating both are totally wrong. Lets say that the person doesn't lie about cheating and tells the truth their is the possiblity for some to forgive and go on. If they lie and the spouse finds out later the chance of forgiveness has droped out of the picture possible. If you love the person you are with you will not cheat on them. If you do it you must not love them the way you should. Here are the words to define deceitful... dishonest, deceiving, fraudulent, untrustworthy, cunning, lying, devious, cheating and faithless. I got these off of the bing dictionary. So no someone who is decietful is the worst of all.



9/3/2012 1:03:41 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
lurkinaround
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You are right heather...infidelity is a lack of character..ir is not a $easure of love but my original statement was if you love someone they are beautiful in your eyes

9/3/2012 1:12:45 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
lurkinaround
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Well then poo!!...

9/3/2012 8:55:19 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
xviiiviviii
Rogers, AR
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yes but some don't want to admitt they were wrong they
want to blame everybody else for what happen

9/4/2012 1:02:44 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
bonbons2
Port Jervis, NY
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The world is full of all three. Mainly its a sign of immaturity. No matter what the age. Its also about your morals, and charactor as a person. But I do believe people can change. Not as often as one would like but some do. sadly most do not.

9/4/2012 1:03:58 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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9/6/2012 7:50:37 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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Quote from bonbons2:
The world is full of all three. Mainly its a sign of immaturity. No matter what the age. Its also about your morals, and charactor as a person. But I do believe people can change. Not as often as one would like but some do. sadly most do not.

Yes the world is full of all three some people change some don't want to change

9/7/2012 12:51:12 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
xviiiviviii
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9/7/2012 1:00:52 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
just_zoe1958
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Remember that the world also has good people, too. The ones you can trust, turn to when in need of someone to listen, and truly cares.

9/7/2012 1:00:58 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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some just don't know anything else

9/8/2012 8:37:58 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
izabo
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Which is sad! It is like trying to find a needle in a haystack!

9/8/2012 8:52:57 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
cupocheer
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Quote from rfhar_54:
some just don't know anything else




... smirking smile ... look below the surface ... when one is too one-deminsional ... you may have discovered a liar, cheater, or deceitful person ...

but that is only one way to spot a problem...

maybe I should start a new thread on this stuff ....



9/8/2012 8:56:28 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
rightturnonred
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Happens every day and all we can do is be proud of the way we deal with it!

9/8/2012 2:35:35 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
just_zoe1958
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And to be thankful that we aren't like that.
I just couldn't hurt someone like that.

9/8/2012 2:51:41 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

sorpstar
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Lying, cheating and being deceitful / it takes two ...if you do any of these isn't the one noticing have a point...if you're doing any of these you belong on the jerry Springer show or taking a lie detector test on maurey show ... and what's the gain...just be honest and go onto a new realtionship after the old one is closed or why are we trying to use the internet to find happiness

9/8/2012 2:52:39 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
cupocheer
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Lying, cheating and being deceitful is a learned response of every living thing on this planet. There is no immunity from this disease.

9/8/2012 3:43:54 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
onemoretime2c
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Just curious, the Venus fly trap is deceitful into fooling its prey for it to survive.....is that a learned response?

9/8/2012 3:49:29 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
lbdays
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Is just the way it is, and a shame too. I was born 100 years too late. JMO

9/8/2012 3:53:16 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
lurkinaround
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Quote from lbdays:
Is just the way it is, and a shame too. I was born 100 years too late. JMO

They did not lie a hundred years ago?

9/8/2012 4:01:00 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
lbdays
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No they lied, but a persons words ment something. Today I just feel does not
hold much merit. JMO

9/8/2012 4:04:48 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
lurkinaround
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Sad thing is you are right..

9/8/2012 4:12:51 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
onemoretime2c
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Maybe we can shorten the name of this thread to "Lawyers"

9/8/2012 4:13:31 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
just_zoe1958
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I bet a lot had to do with closeness of the community, too. Family looked after family, neighbors knew one another. Things didn't come so easily and you valued what you had more.

9/8/2012 4:17:50 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
lurkinaround
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Yep tv and ac took everyone off the front porch and put them behind locked doors



[Edited 9/8/2012 4:19:15 PM ]

9/8/2012 5:33:41 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
rightturnonred
Mooresville, NC
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Quote from xviiiviviii:
yes but some don't want to admitt they were wrong they
want to blame everybody else for what happen


But we can't change other people...only ourselves. The way to a sense of peace, is to ACCEPT others just as they are and realize our own limitations to make it easier!

Try not to get caught up in the fact that someone will not admit they were wrong. It's actually human nature...none of us like to be wrong. Be content in the fact that YOU know the truth!!!

9/11/2012 12:34:05 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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I have refarined from posting anymore here but it has been hard to do

9/13/2012 12:49:19 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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You said you wanted peace was that another lie

9/13/2012 1:37:06 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
cupocheer
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hmmmmm ...... lying, cheating, and deceitfulness usually winds up being a two-way street, doesn't it?

9/13/2012 5:01:37 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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wtf?
She is so full of remorse from so much cheating and lying.
She has her blond hair buried in the sand from all the shame
She has let her forbidden pleasures turn her crazy.
She looks for her Trojans every night..
She has so many tainted memories she wonder if she will ever be sane.
She hear the screech of the forbidden pleasures.
She is so full of venom she is shameless.
Her body is no longer a temple but ruptured by the vibrations of her lust.
She abandons all rational thoughts
She just play peoples like a puppet on a string.
She doesn’t care who she toyed with she just let the chips fall were they may.
She has no care for who heart she breaks she only cares for her on pleasures.
She wishes she could only change her past that haunts her..
She is soulless with a heart as hard as rocks.
She has tears bleed from all the lies she has told..
She then in the end when she get caught in a lie she say it was not her fault.

9/13/2012 5:05:13 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
joangel60
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9/17/2012 10:25:18 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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not to worry jo

9/17/2012 10:28:42 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

vida60
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Quote from rightturnonred:
But we can't change other people...only ourselves. The way to a sense of peace, is to ACCEPT others just as they are and realize our own limitations to make it easier!

Try not to get caught up in the fact that someone will not admit they were wrong. It's actually human nature...none of us like to be wrong. Be content in the fact that YOU know the truth!!!





It's true it's only human nature that everyone wants to be "right" but it takes an extraordinary person to be able to admit when they're wrong.

9/17/2012 10:53:27 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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What if a man was talking with a woman real serious on here and making plans for the future.
Then he turns around and hides the fact he is also spending weekends with someone else.
Then has two women stay the weekend with him all this time hiding it from the lady he is making plans with. What does that make him and what does that make the women.
Now turn it around the women also knew he was real serious with this lady, and they did not care one bit what she might even think about all this nor did they care.
So what would that make them IMO that makes them no better than a two bit street walker standing on the Conner
This lady and I had been talking for a year or so. We planned to meet and her Mother had a turn for the worse so it was all postponed. But we talked every day, sometimes 4 to 5 times a day hours on end and made many plans for a future together. What gets me is she use to talk so bad about this man and how he played all the women and she couldn't stand that. I didn't know they were also talking on the phone and had met and spent multiples weekend with each other before it was all exposed on line. When I saw the picture of Her, this man and another lady posted I was really hurt and shocked. I had no idea about them planning to meet. She called me right after the picture was posted and was begging me not to be upset about it. I ask her how hurt the other lady was going to be she said she didn't care how anyone felt about it. It sure was a slap in the face though.

9/17/2012 11:05:18 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

vida60
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Quote from rfhar_54:
What if a man was talking with a woman real serious on here and making plans for the future.
Then he turns around and hides the fact he is also spending weekends with someone else.
Then has two women stay the weekend with him all this time hiding it from the lady he is making plans with. What does that make him and what does that make the women.
Now turn it around the women also knew he was real serious with this lady, and they did not care one bit what she might even think about all this nor did they care.
So what would that make them IMO that makes them no better than a two bit street walker standing on the Conner
This lady and I had been talking for a year or so. We planned to meet and her Mother had a turn for the worse so it was all postponed. But we talked every day, sometimes 4 to 5 times a day hours on end and made many plans for a future together. What gets me is she use to talk so bad about this man and how he played all the women and she couldn't stand that. I didn't know they were also talking on the phone and had met and spent multiples weekend with each other before it was all exposed on line. When I saw the picture of Her, this man and another lady posted I was really hurt and shocked. I had no idea about them planning to meet. She called me right after the picture was posted and was begging me not to be upset about it. I ask her how hurt the other lady was going to be she said she didn't care how anyone felt about it. It sure was a slap in the face though.


Sounds like "your" woman friend wasn't any better than him, she was the one playing you, just my opinion though. Your best bet is not to let your feelings go so freely until you've actually met the person, guard your heart from people online, just as you would when you meet someone in person for the first time, everything with a grain of salt until proven otherwise.



[Edited 9/17/2012 11:07:50 AM ]

9/17/2012 11:09:13 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

dimplesdance
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9/17/2012 11:10:19 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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Quote from vida60:
Sounds like "your" woman friend wasn't any better than him, she was the one playing you, just my opinion though. Your best bet is not to let your feelings go so freely until you've actually met the person, guard your heart from people online, just as you would when you meet someone in person for the first time, everything with a grain of salt until proven otherwise.

well they were both to blame that for sure

9/17/2012 5:50:53 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
just_zoe1958
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You made your point too Dimples, now you need to let it go as well. Preaching doesn't help. Everyone heals differently. Some take more time than others. We cannot tell other how we think they should feel. I can only extend open arms and hope with my heart that he will heal so the hurt will ease and they no longer have power over him.

9/17/2012 5:55:04 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

dimplesdance
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Exactly Ms Zoe, we can not tell others how to feel. Nor should we tell others that we are the only ones that care about them. We can however mention to them if we are concerned for their health and well being if we are educated on the subject, and KNOW that carrying stress for a long period of time, can and will make a person sick...
Have a great evening...

9/17/2012 6:09:06 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
just_zoe1958
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I never said I was the only one, Rf is loved by many.

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9/17/2012 6:10:28 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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wtf?
She is so full of remorse from so much cheating and lying.
She has her blond hair buried in the sand from all the shame
She has let her forbidden pleasures turn her crazy.
She looks for her Trojans every night..
She has so many tainted memories she wonder if she will ever be sane.
She hear the screech of the forbidden pleasures.
She is so full of venom she is shameless.
Her body is no longer a temple but ruptured by the vibrations of her lust.
She abandons all rational thoughts
She just play peoples like a puppet on a string.
She doesn’t care who she toyed with she just let the chips fall were they may.
She has no care for who heart she breaks she only cares for her on pleasures.
She wishes she could only change her past that haunts her..
She is soulless with a heart as hard as rocks.
She has tears bleed from all the lies she has told..
She then in the end when she get caught in a lie she say it was not her fault.

9/17/2012 11:36:55 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
xviiiviviii
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9/17/2012 11:36:59 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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i know sad

9/17/2012 11:41:58 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
ev_lin
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Quote from rfhar_54:
wtf?
She is so full of remorse from so much cheating and lying.
She has her blond hair buried in the sand from all the shame
She has let her forbidden pleasures turn her crazy.
She looks for her Trojans every night..
She has so many tainted memories she wonder if she will ever be sane.
She hear the screech of the forbidden pleasures.
She is so full of venom she is shameless.
Her body is no longer a temple but ruptured by the vibrations of her lust.
She abandons all rational thoughts
She just play peoples like a puppet on a string.
She doesn’t care who she toyed with she just let the chips fall were they may.
She has no care for who heart she breaks she only cares for her on pleasures.
She wishes she could only change her past that haunts her..
She is soulless with a heart as hard as rocks.
She has tears bleed from all the lies she has told..
She then in the end when she get caught in a lie she say it was not her fault.
.

This is beautiful, I don't know why you haven't posted it in the "creative writing" thread.

9/18/2012 1:14:26 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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yep I thought it was good also

9/22/2012 10:36:56 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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9/23/2012 11:03:08 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
xviiiviviii
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[Edited 9/23/2012 11:03:36 PM ]

9/23/2012 11:04:37 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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Fouke, AR
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Quote from rfhar_54:
wtf?
She is so full of remorse from so much cheating and lying.
She has her blond hair buried in the sand from all the shame
She has let her forbidden pleasures turn her crazy.
She looks for her Trojans every night..
She has so many tainted memories she wonder if she will ever be sane.
She hear the screech of the forbidden pleasures.
She is so full of venom she is shameless.
Her body is no longer a temple but ruptured by the vibrations of her lust.
She abandons all rational thoughts
She just play peoples like a puppet on a string.
She doesn’t care who she toyed with she just let the chips fall were they may.
She has no care for who heart she breaks she only cares for her on pleasures.
She wishes she could only change her past that haunts her..
She is soulless with a heart as hard as rocks.
She has tears bleed from all the lies she has told..
She then in the end when she get caught in a lie she say it was not her fault.

yep and you know who this is

9/24/2012 12:17:55 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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Anyone can trace your posts jeff and see you have made your snide remarks to me. What they don't know about this whole situation and one reason I don't forgive you is that we talked on the phone THE DAY BEFORE you had the woman I was making plans with, serious plans and I told you how much I cared about her and about our plans. You had her to your home for a 3 day meetup anyway and didn't even bother to mention it to me. I found out after the fact by seeing the pictures you posted with your arm around her. You are lower than a snake!
I am sick of you rubbing it in my face.
Do I need to add more about what she had to say after the fact.

9/24/2012 5:10:44 AM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
cripplehawk
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I'm Appalled...

9/24/2012 12:13:37 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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yep me too

9/24/2012 12:14:32 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
ev_lin
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Yep me too

9/24/2012 1:11:05 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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9/24/2012 1:16:19 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
ev_lin
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.


9/24/2012 11:39:39 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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9/25/2012 9:41:44 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  
xviiiviviii
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Quote from rfhar_54:
How do you define them.
Would you condone them

nope never condone them

9/25/2012 9:41:53 PM Lying, cheating and being deceitful | Page 3  

rfhar_54
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they are some cheaters on here