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7/30/2008 12:55:05 PM Women not responding to you? then be an a**hole here is why  
japetto
Southport, NC
age: 26


Quote from rocket000:
I think it's important to note that just because an attractive girl/woman replies to a negative type email doesn't necessarily mean that's the right approach. We don't know the caliber of these women. Some of these women may suffer from low self esteem and think they can't do any better.

I stand by my original statement. A woman of caliber generally prefers to receive an email from a man who has read her entire profile. He should state why he thinks they have something in common(work, sports, hobbies, alma mater). He can pay her a compliment but DON'T use the adjectives HOT, SEXY, etc. How about, it's apparent from your pictures you take good care of yourself or you have a great smile! Invite her to read your profile and if she has an interest, please write. If not, wish her luck in her search.

I'm willing to bet IF you're contacting QUALITY women you will improve your odds. When I say improve it doesn't mean she will necessarily have an interest in you but a larger percentage will at least offer the courtesy of a reply.



Thank you very much for your advice =) it is greatly appreciated but if you are referring to me, I am not having any problems. I feel like people get the impression that I am trying hard or something. This is just an experiment. I really don't have much intention of meeting a woman online but if I just so happen to thats great. I won't be sending an overly cocky and distasteful email to a woman that I am actually interested in. Though with the results that I have I will probably try to be a little bit cocky and humorous so I will at least have a chance at getting a response.

8/1/2008 5:16:02 PM Women not responding to you? then be an a**hole here is why  
mlk2008
Brimfield, MA
age: 89


Quote from ravishingred:
Okay... I got the notice about the new law of hands free cell phones in your car. But I must have missed the one stating you HAVE to write people back on DH??? Silly me!

MLK- Last I checked people still had a right to choose. You choose who you write to. They choose who to respond to. I have written to men that did not write me back. I cried for a few days. Got some group therapy then moved on with my life. Let's try this.... Have you written to EVERY 25- 30yo woman in your state??


I've written to at least 30 females between age 19 and 30 in my state, my city and parts of Southern New Jersey. All messages were respectful and non-insulting. No sexual references were added. And they all did the same thing, which was delete the messages with no response. Like one of the other guys on DH said, some females use an auto-rejection skeptisism method, and may not bother to read the messages since they get like 50 or more in a week's time.

8/1/2008 5:27:04 PM Women not responding to you? then be an a**hole here is why  
mlk2008
Brimfield, MA
age: 89


Quote from rocket000:
I think it's important to note that just because an attractive girl/woman replies to a negative type email doesn't necessarily mean that's the right approach. We don't know the caliber of these women. Some of these women may suffer from low self esteem and think they can't do any better.

I stand by my original statement. A woman of caliber generally prefers to receive an email from a man who has read her entire profile. He should state why he thinks they have something in common(work, sports, hobbies, alma mater). He can pay her a compliment but DON'T use the adjectives HOT, SEXY, etc. How about, it's apparent from your pictures you take good care of yourself or you have a great smile! Invite her to read your profile and if she has an interest, please write. If not, wish her luck in her search.

I'm willing to bet IF you're contacting QUALITY women you will improve your odds. When I say improve it doesn't mean she will necessarily have an interest in you but a larger percentage will at least offer the courtesy of a reply.



Good advice. So is it safe to assume that the other percentage of females who don't respond to positive messages, are degenerates?

8/1/2008 5:46:23 PM Women not responding to you? then be an a**hole here is why  

rubberman1919
Bokeelia, FL
age: 44


Isn't this supposed to be a DATING site? not a discussion site! I think if you're just honest, say what you feel, and mean it, and like what you read, then meet the person and see what happen's, stop all the BS!! already and start DATING!!!!!!

8/2/2008 6:56:13 PM Women not responding to you? then be an a**hole here is why  
japetto
Southport, NC
age: 26


Quote from rubberman1919:
Isn't this supposed to be a DATING site? not a discussion site! I think if you're just honest, say what you feel, and mean it, and like what you read, then meet the person and see what happen's, stop all the BS!! already and start DATING!!!!!!


This is the kinda politically correct BS that makes me sick in my stomach. If a woman is getting several emails a day on an online site then you are going to have to stand out to get her attention period! Just like in real life, If a beautiful woman is receiving compliments all night and you approach her and do the same then you put yourself in the "average joe" category and are automatically dismissed. I believe the same goes with online emails. Call it games if you wanna but the reality is that sadly beautiful women will respond to insults and become curious or even attracted to a guy as opposed to one that just compliments like every one else. I dunno it works, I can prove it. All of you fellas try it seriously what do you have to lose?

8/2/2008 7:15:29 PM Women not responding to you? then be an a**hole here is why  

missedagain
Prineville, OR
age: 63


I am not sure why, but I have been on some of these sires for 5 years. I would say 70 to 80% of my emails go unanswered. I am NOT an MD, not rich, but very healthy for my age and completely honest. I have a driver's license, a car, a truck, a boat, all paid for. A house, with property, a positive net worth, and an income, so I honestly believe I am an above average catch, but still, very few answers. Am I required to lie about who I am to generate some interest?

8/2/2008 7:19:28 PM Women not responding to you? then be an a**hole here is why  

pichick712
Over 2,000 Posts (2,838)
Brookhaven, PA
age: 50


The "hello beautiful" email is too reminiscent of the typical SCAMMER email.

YOu are not being specific to each woman you write to and none of us want an generic email. Scammers utilize that and they may have sensed that possibility.

Scammers usually don't send cocky emails.

8/2/2008 10:11:49 PM Women not responding to you? then be an a**hole here is why  
spal250
King of Prussia, PA
age: 26


Ha another study shows what proves it. If women don't respond to you then your UGLY, has nothing to do with confidence, you just physically repulse them...

Here's another study proving my point.

Do attractive people have it easier?

Yes they do and social psychology research has shown it...

Attractive children are more popular, both with classmates and teachers. Teachers give higher evaluations to the work of attractive children and have higher expectations of them (which has been shown to improve performance).

Attractive applicants have a better chance of getting jobs, and of receiving higher salaries. (one US study found that taller men earned around $600 per inch more than shorter executives.)

In court, attractive people are found guilty less often. When found guilty, they receive less severe sentences.

We also believe in the 'what is beautiful is good' stereotype – an irrational but deep-seated belief that physically attractive people possess other desirable characteristics such as intelligence, competence, social skills, confidence – even moral virtue. (The good fairy/princess is always beautiful; the wicked stepmother is always ugly)


It's not just in the DATING WORLD, its dealing with LIFE IN GENERAL. The fact that society thinks a person is SMARTER because they're better looking, is incredibly f**ked up...cuz then attractive ppl go around basically saying all the stupid, uneducated shit they want and will never get slapped down for it.



8/3/2008 10:45:40 PM Women not responding to you? then be an a**hole here is why  

ravishingred
Corona, CA
age: 38


The point I was trying to make to you MLK is that you selected who you wanted to contact and passed up on others. Does that make you Bastard??? No. It means you have preferences. Could be based on appearance. Could be based on the content of their profile. Perhaps even the slang or vocabulary used. But unless you are contacting every woman in your age/location range, you can't judge someone else for selecting who they want to respond to. It's the same thing.

8/4/2008 5:19:23 AM Women not responding to you? then be an a**hole here is why  

toddew
Bussey, IA
age: 47


Quote from noredneckhere:
Quote from teachorbeach:
My opinion - its because the first one sounds like a load of BS - we're just not trusting that anyone is that sweet - the second one sounds more real .... maybe not as sweet or sincere, but it doesn't sound like you're trying to be something you're not.


Well unfortunately, when we read womens profiles, they are all very similar for the most part, all sweet and sugary. "Longs walks, kisses, cuddling, snuggling, kids, foofy dog" So why would a guy think to write "Yo biatch, wazzup ?" They respond in kind if they like what they see.

So, either you're all on here for the forums and yapping, or yer lying about what you REALLY want. Which is it ?



You are exactly right!!!! The profiles are all the same, and alot of them don't say
what they like, just what the last poor slob failed at to live up to the Knight in shinning armor syndrome they are stuck on. If a guy says he is good looking he's concieted, If he is humble and says he is average it's delete time. and they all say they are tired of playing games. Online dating is the ultimate game isn't it? the real game is trying to decode what is real from the BS

8/4/2008 7:36:17 AM Women not responding to you? then be an a**hole here is why  
frznupnth
Stratton, ME
age: 39


Quote from blueskies08:
Quote from cartel850:
I'm confused, or maybe enlightened. I'm one of those guys. who always send the sweet email, and 60% of the time no response. So what you are saying is if I am a d*ck a little more then women will respond. Sorry, but I'll go down lonely, before I become something I,m not, Just to be noticed.
i agree all the way


Me too. Spal 250 interesting read about social psychology regarding height and looks. I would deduce from that post and the one before talking about movers and shakers who are disrespectful, cras males toward women that they happen to be tall, dark, and handsome. Probably not good to generalize too much but there is a ring of truth to what you say. And because they've been blessed with what society percieves as favorable/positive traits they make "600$ x-tra/inch" plus many other bennys apparantly. That ain't no tall tale!

Interesting how much of the slang today considered acceptable is also considered by some a sign of honesty. Maybe so but there are plenty of other words in the language equally honest and a lot cras than b*tch, hoe. . . ect. I'd have to be pretty pissed off at a "woman" to call her a b*tch. Just how I was raised.

8/4/2008 10:53:27 AM Women not responding to you? then be an a**hole here is why  

protodewd
Acworth, GA
age: 50


Quote from japetto:

Fella's start doing this, trust me on it.


Ummm, how about no.

Why the hell should anyone here trust you?


If you think you need to be an a**hole to get responses, then you're doing it wrong.

8/4/2008 11:21:30 AM Women not responding to you? then be an a**hole here is why  

toddew
Bussey, IA
age: 47


I think this is an important topic to me because of the timing this is my first experience for internet dating. I started out with alot of enthusiasm after much effort after one week I had made actual contact with 2 girls and one wink. ( I think they just happend to be exceptionally nice and compasionate.). but didn't feel a real spark. I talked with them about being discouraged they said it was normal. week two I didn't take the extra time to be as nice and friendly, because the odds of actually finding that special someone were obvious. i got to where I didn't care if they liked it or not. I started to consider ladies that were probably a step above my first standard.. I don't think I became an a**hole, I just got a thicker skin and didn't take it so personal. It's human nature not a conspiracy and i'm enjoying myself more. there is no easy way to solve this but maybe this will save one person some stress. Ahh who am I kidding no one really cares. nevermind

8/4/2008 11:34:22 AM Women not responding to you? then be an a**hole here is why  
egglebert
Steinbach, MB
age: 46


good test, very interesting results. This is not a well prepared study but does show enough difference to warrant a discussion.

It would have been better if the two emails were sent to the same women under a different profile. You tainted your results with the different sample group.
Both emails were weak in delivery and were subject to suspicion. Why would one elicit a response and the other not despite the wekness in both?

It would seem sad in reading the responses that it confirms our human weakness - preconceived expectations. Both sex's have these "pictures" of the opposite sex and their assumptions as to why each behave the way they do. Unfortunately, as both men and women are struggling with relationships and the dating scene, the opinion of the opposite sex is generally negative right from the start. It is seen between the sexes in the everyday threads as well as this thread.



[Edited 8/4/2008 12:01:22 PM]

8/4/2008 11:36:37 AM Women not responding to you? then be an a**hole here is why  

lobo_corazon
Over 2,000 Posts (2,534)
Kingston, ON
age: 39


Quote from cherokee51012:
(Women not responding to you? then be an a**hole here is why)
I am gradually introducing this method to some of my posts to women that I contact on another free site. So far I've not heard from anyone. But one girl did check out my profile.
I basically told her she lived to far away so there would be no connection between us. But that I felt she needed to do herself a favor, and hire a photographer to take a good picture of her.
What she had done was snapped off a shot of herself in the women's restroom with the stalls behind her for a backdrop. She was a pretty Gal, but she looked like a call girl in that setting.
I wasn't trying to be mean. Just helpful.
That's men's biggest downdfall, offerring advice when it wasn't asked for.

If you were hoping for a reply, I'd recommend you work on that approach a little.

Insults/putdowns are bad, but teasing is good. Some kind of joke about how she looks in the pic would be ideal, as long as you keep it in good taste (more-or-less).