5/22/2016 4:32:33 AM |
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
Australia
23, joined Jan. 2016
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or go in a relationship with a man if you don't intend on having sex with him?
They always end up being such disappointments it's easier to avoid it and wait till the breakup happens lol. Then I have peace in knowing they never got that close to me at all really. It only gets hard when I think I have feelings for them and I have something that resembles hope that they aren't users and jerks. Eventually they show their true colors.
And anyway most men suck at sex and it's just like whyyy bother when I can satisfy myself better than they could
Does anyone else feel the same way when it comes to men?
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5/22/2016 4:33:47 AM |
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Mercedes_02
AñatuyaAñatuya
Australia
100, joined Dec. 2014
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i would tell him from the get go.
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5/22/2016 4:57:34 AM |
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celyn67
San Antonio, TX
49, joined Jan. 2016
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No, I don't feel that way about men. You get to know a man some, & if he turns out to NOT be the type of man you like (behavior-wise), don't continue to see him.
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5/22/2016 5:03:40 AM |
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digital_knight
Grand Rapids, MI
44, joined Nov. 2012
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No, I don't feel that way about men. You get to know a man some, & if he turns out to NOT be the type of man you like (behavior-wise), don't continue to see him.
Right
I don't understand why someone would even continue to date someone they dont find attractive sexually attractive ?
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5/22/2016 5:04:54 AM |
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
Australia
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I usually do find them sexually attractive but I don't want to have sex with them.
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5/22/2016 5:37:33 AM |
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celyn67
San Antonio, TX
49, joined Jan. 2016
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Right
I don't understand why someone would even continue to date someone they dont find attractive sexually attractive ?
I was talking about MORE THAN just physical attraction. I could find a man to be physically attractive, but still not want to date him if he is rude, not kind-hearted etc.
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5/22/2016 5:49:01 AM |
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cavie59
Enid, OK
56, joined Feb. 2010
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or go in a relationship with a man if you don't intend on having sex with him?
They always end up being such disappointments it's easier to avoid it and wait till the breakup happens lol. Then I have peace in knowing they never got that close to me at all really. It only gets hard when I think I have feelings for them and I have something that resembles hope that they aren't users and jerks. Eventually they show their true colors.
And anyway most men suck at sex and it's just like whyyy bother when I can satisfy myself better than they could
Does anyone else feel the same way when it comes to men?
This is why I refuse to believe anything that a woman says. Most (not all) women think just like this.
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5/22/2016 5:54:05 AM |
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digital_knight
Grand Rapids, MI
44, joined Nov. 2012
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I was talking about MORE THAN just physical attraction. I could find a man to be physically attractive, but still not want to date him if he is rude, not kind-hearted etc.
Ok I don't know how and why anyone would date a person who is rude or cold hearted unless that person put the fear of God in them and order them to date em .
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5/22/2016 6:00:30 AM |
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
Australia
23, joined Jan. 2016
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Fear of God?
lol Oh I got a good one
I could say Im saving my virginity for marriage
is that a good idea lmao
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5/22/2016 6:01:13 AM |
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celyn67
San Antonio, TX
49, joined Jan. 2016
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@digital_knight...Someone usually doesn't know exactly how another person is when they first meet them. Anyone can seem very nice at first.
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5/22/2016 6:05:24 AM |
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digital_knight
Grand Rapids, MI
44, joined Nov. 2012
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Fear of God?
lol Oh I got a good one
I could say Im saving my virginity for marriage
is that a good idea lmao
That would be a lie because you know damn well you and your best friend used to date and have sex .
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5/22/2016 6:06:32 AM |
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
Australia
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Yeah so what is better saying Im a virgin OR saying Im a 'born again' virgin?
and my friend, you mean my ex when we were together? lol duh
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5/22/2016 6:10:49 AM |
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windy_rider
Aspen, CO
39, joined Nov. 2014
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I've never even heard of dating without sex. This thread is a stretch.
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5/22/2016 6:13:07 AM |
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digital_knight
Grand Rapids, MI
44, joined Nov. 2012
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Yeah so what is better saying Im a virgin OR saying Im a 'born again' virgin?
and my friend, you mean my ex when we were together? lol duh
Born again virgin
That is what me and my cousin was talking about the other day about women who has kids but now dont want to have sex until they meet that special man . I would just leave that woman alone let her wait for that man .
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5/22/2016 6:16:06 AM |
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
Australia
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I could Lie and say Im a virgin but I'm against lying lol.
It would avoid nasty questions if I did say I was a virgin though and them thinking I was a hypocrite.
Born again virgin sounds like a good idea.
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5/22/2016 6:19:56 AM |
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digital_knight
Grand Rapids, MI
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How can you be a born again virgin? There is no way unless you woke from a coma and had no memory of having sex ever would give the right to claim to be a born again virgin.
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5/22/2016 6:21:21 AM |
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Mercedes_02
AñatuyaAñatuya
Australia
100, joined Dec. 2014
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The only woman in this joint who is a born again virgin is me
and I don't bloody lie.
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5/22/2016 6:25:46 AM |
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digital_knight
Grand Rapids, MI
44, joined Nov. 2012
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The only woman in this joint who is a born again virgin is me
and I don't bloody lie.
And what makes you think you are a born again virgin
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5/22/2016 6:27:02 AM |
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Mercedes_02
AñatuyaAñatuya
Australia
100, joined Dec. 2014
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And what makes you think you are a born again virgin
Has been more than 20 years and even back then it wasn't anything
special/good to write home about
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5/22/2016 6:32:08 AM |
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digital_knight
Grand Rapids, MI
44, joined Nov. 2012
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Just because it was all bad and it happen 20yrs ago doesnt make you a virgin again .
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5/22/2016 6:34:41 AM |
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digital_knight
Grand Rapids, MI
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And on top of that you have kids
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5/22/2016 6:35:13 AM |
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Mercedes_02
AñatuyaAñatuya
Australia
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digital_knight: Just because it was all bad and it happen 20yrs ago doesnt make you a virgin again .
Of course it does.
I just have to believe my hymen is all back in tact again
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5/22/2016 6:47:50 AM |
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
Australia
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Just means I'm not having sex until a predecided point in time.
Like a vow of celibacy kinda.
I don't think the hymen part is the part that they care about in terms of virginity, its just the experience and having done it that they care about.
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5/22/2016 6:49:39 AM |
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Mercedes_02
AñatuyaAñatuya
Australia
100, joined Dec. 2014
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I know the hymen has jack shit to do with it.
I also know that my vagina is as tight as the skin
on a drum.
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5/22/2016 7:36:06 AM |
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celyn67
San Antonio, TX
49, joined Jan. 2016
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And on top of that you have kids
So if a woman was married & had kids...now divorced...that means she should have sex with whomever? Do it with every man she has a date with? No!
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5/22/2016 7:37:08 AM |
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digital_knight
Grand Rapids, MI
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If I had choice of dating a virgin or born again virgin I would choose the virgin because she has no sexual experience prior .
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5/22/2016 7:40:18 AM |
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
Australia
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So you're saying I should say I'm a virgin? lol
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5/22/2016 7:58:53 AM |
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testsignup
Springfield, VA
62, joined Sep. 2009
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I just finished posting in your rant about how all men lie, and here you are asking if it's okay to lie to a guy by omission.
The fact that you seriously ask the title question of this thread, is WHY lots of people, especially the guys you are proposing to do this to, decide to make lying a standard part of their dating repertoire.
To answer your question directly as stated, no. It is not "wrong" to "date" people you are sure you never want to have sex with. It's called a platonic relationship, fully recognized as good and valid.
But if you don't TELL them that BEFORE you start "dating" them, then you are making yourself into a liar, which you say you hate.
So in your case, what you need to do in order to fulfill your own stated beliefs and live up to your own standards, is to figure out how to explain what it is that you plan to do with them. That's not going to be simple, as I can see from your consideration of using other lies, as cover stories.
What I would suggest, assuming you want to stick with being an anti-liar, is to say flat out what you are saying here: that you do want to socialize with guys and enjoy various activities with them, but you don't intend it to be anything other than the activities themselves, because you are so sure that sex wouldn't be any fun, and you don't want the hassles and emotional baggage involved.
Then when you refuse them later, you wont be guilty of leading them on with lies of omission.
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5/22/2016 8:03:26 AM |
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
Australia
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that you do want to socialize with guys and enjoy various activities with them, but you don't intend it to be anything other than the activities themselves, because you are so sure that sex wouldn't be any fun, and you don't want the hassles and emotional baggage involved.
Wow that summarized it really well, I was having trouble putting how I felt into words. I don't think I should say that though. I'll just say I want a platonic relationship ATM.
thank you by the way..
It's just hard because I know saying this will mean 99% won't be interested in me and if I'm already dating or close to it and say it will hurt them and Don't want to hurt the guy I care about.
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5/22/2016 8:16:41 AM |
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lareveur
La Follette, TN
32, joined May. 2013
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I don't think it's wrong to date a man with an intention of withholding sex as long you make it clear to him at some point early on during your courtship...especially if you know that he wants you. Because otherwise it wouldn't be fair to mislead him in the hope that it's possible in wasting his time.
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5/22/2016 8:33:19 AM |
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digital_knight
Grand Rapids, MI
44, joined Nov. 2012
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I just finished posting in your rant about how all men lie, and here you are asking if it's okay to lie to a guy by omission.
The fact that you seriously ask the title question of this thread, is WHY lots of people, especially the guys you are proposing to do this to, decide to make lying a standard part of their dating repertoire.
To answer your question directly as stated, no. It is not "wrong" to "date" people you are sure you never want to have sex with. It's called a platonic relationship, fully recognized as good and valid.
But if you don't TELL them that BEFORE you start "dating" them, then you are making yourself into a liar, which you say you hate.
So in your case, what you need to do in order to fulfill your own stated beliefs and live up to your own standards, is to figure out how to explain what it is that you plan to do with them. That's not going to be simple, as I can see from your consideration of using other lies, as cover stories.
What I would suggest, assuming you want to stick with being an anti-liar, is to say flat out what you are saying here: that you do want to socialize with guys and enjoy various activities with them, but you don't intend it to be anything other than the activities themselves, because you are so sure that sex wouldn't be any fun, and you don't want the hassles and emotional baggage involved.
Then when you refuse them later, you wont be guilty of leading them on with lies of omission.
This
But me I wouldnt be dating a woman to long after the 2nd date and I have been paying for and no sex involved ??!!
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5/22/2016 8:37:04 AM |
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
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Go pay for a prostitute digital knight lol
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5/22/2016 8:53:50 AM |
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celyn67
San Antonio, TX
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Then it seems that the reason you pay for the date is TO get sex. If you pay, that shouldn't be why you do it.
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5/22/2016 8:55:18 AM |
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celyn67
San Antonio, TX
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I don't think it's wrong to date a man with an intention of withholding sex as long you make it clear to him at some point early on during your courtship...especially if you know that he wants you. Because otherwise it wouldn't be fair to mislead him in the hope that it's possible in wasting his time.
This! If you don't have any intention of ever having sex with the man, let him know that up-front.
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5/22/2016 9:24:08 AM |
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
Australia
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Then it seems that the reason you pay for the date is TO get sex. If you pay, that shouldn't be why you do i
Agree
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5/22/2016 9:28:43 AM |
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hikinghills
Redding, CA
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while dating,if your upfront and honest with him/her that you don't intend to have sex with them.....I don't see any problems with that....
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5/22/2016 9:32:10 AM |
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enigmaathand
Leavittsburg, OH
35, joined Mar. 2013
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Obviously not wrong in women's eyes. They do that shit, and even marry men, while having the desire to have sex with every man except the one they are committed to.
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5/22/2016 9:37:08 AM |
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
Australia
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If I'm trying to avoid having sex with one guy who I'm with or dating, why would I go have sex with another
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5/22/2016 9:44:31 AM |
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digital_knight
Grand Rapids, MI
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Then it seems that the reason you pay for the date is TO get sex. If you pay, that shouldn't be why you do it.
So what you are saying if and when I get horny I shouldnt be thinking about the woman I am dating right ?
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5/22/2016 9:54:18 AM |
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
Australia
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No self control
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5/22/2016 11:07:57 AM |
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enigmaathand
Leavittsburg, OH
35, joined Mar. 2013
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If I'm trying to avoid having sex with one guy who I'm with or dating, why would I go have sex with another Why don't you start asking the American women doing just that, like I have.
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5/22/2016 12:35:05 PM |
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
Australia
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seems weird. Anyhow
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5/22/2016 12:49:29 PM |
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digital_knight
Grand Rapids, MI
44, joined Nov. 2012
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No self control
Its a natural feeling just like when you feel hot cold afraid hungry ect .
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5/22/2016 12:59:33 PM |
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celyn67
San Antonio, TX
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So what you are saying if and when I get horny I shouldnt be thinking about the woman I am dating right ?
That's not what I said. I said if you PAY for a date BECAUSE you expect sex, then you are paying for the wrong reason.
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5/22/2016 1:11:51 PM |
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digital_knight
Grand Rapids, MI
44, joined Nov. 2012
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That's not what I said. I said if you PAY for a date BECAUSE you expect sex, then you are paying for the wrong reason.
Oh I see
No if I enjoy her company and we get along fine and she attractive but claims we can't have sex for whatever I can't continue dating a woman like that . Because to me we are not dating. that is called but it's not dating .
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5/22/2016 1:35:23 PM |
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celyn67
San Antonio, TX
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There are plenty of people who have dates without having sex. If they only had a date or two, many times they don't have sex YET. But yes, I DO know that there are plenty who ALSO do.
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5/22/2016 3:40:49 PM |
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digital_knight
Grand Rapids, MI
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I can handle no sex the first few dates but a month of talking and seeing each other no sex I can't handle that .
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5/22/2016 3:49:44 PM |
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the_israelite
Rio de JaneiroRio de Janeiro
Brazil
34, joined Apr. 2016
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I was talking about MORE THAN just physical attraction. I could find a man to be physically attractive, but still not want to date him if he is rude, not kind-hearted etc.
Interestingly enough, it seems that some women pick rude, unkind men who might be hot or confident over a man who may be a decent guy, but isn't confident enough or who is "too nice" or whatever. Go figure.
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5/22/2016 4:14:06 PM |
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celyn67
San Antonio, TX
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Yes some do, just as some men will choose a woman he finds hot, even if she's mean or "crazy" acting, etc. To me...if the man is a huge jerk, then good looks don't matter enough.
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5/22/2016 4:25:43 PM |
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flyfish77
Conyers, GA
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it allways was about the first thing we did,i dont know what it is,an i wont complain,all my dates from long as i can remember back to the 1970,s sex was so easy,no asking at all,it just happened,just the honest truth they like a tall handsome funny friendly guy,i guess......
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5/22/2016 4:37:12 PM |
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mr_zipzip
New York, NY
32, joined May. 2014
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Is it wrong to date a man if you don't intend on having sex with him?
Yes.
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5/22/2016 4:39:34 PM |
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truckerdaddy915
El Paso, TX
41, joined Feb. 2014
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Fear of God?
lol Oh I got a good one
I could say Im saving my virginity for marriage
is that a good idea lmao
That's a red flag.
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5/22/2016 6:31:44 PM |
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driver406
Saint Paul, MN
64, joined Oct. 2009
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Just let him know early on that you're holding out for the abusive black thug with 12" minimum and 8" around. I wonder if that guy who's always measuring himself can measure up.
Just let him know early on so he doesn't WASTE a lot of time and money on you and so he can find someone who is truly interesting rather than someone using him for a dinner and a movie.
With an attitude like yours OPie I think you'd find it much more amusing to go to a lesbian site and only have sex with goddesses like yourself with a 15" strapon. You seem to hate men and ridicule them so just go be with your own kind and let the guys find a real woman who is truly interested in them. You obviously aren't.
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5/22/2016 6:35:38 PM |
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easttowest72
Bremen, GA
44, joined Sep. 2014
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Men should play hard to get. They are always in too big of a hurry for sex
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5/22/2016 6:41:34 PM |
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flyfish77
Conyers, GA
50, joined Jul. 2014
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your only a virgin once,,sex allways has came easy for me,once i meet them,its a done thing an we just enjoy,i never ask or beg,i kinda ignore them a little at first just to see if im really wanted and i am,on phone an in person is all perfect allways...........
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5/22/2016 6:45:56 PM |
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mrfckinpetey
Orlando, FL
31, joined Jun. 2014
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or go in a relationship with a man if you don't intend on having sex with him?
They always end up being such disappointments it's easier to avoid it and wait till the breakup happens lol. Then I have peace in knowing they never got that close to me at all really. It only gets hard when I think I have feelings for them and I have something that resembles hope that they aren't users and jerks. Eventually they show their true colors.
And anyway most men suck at sex and it's just like whyyy bother when I can satisfy myself better than they could
Does anyone else feel the same way when it comes to men?
It's not wrong, but your options will be limited if you don't put out. You're pretty much left with suckers, obsessives, idiots and guilty STD carriers.
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5/22/2016 6:55:48 PM |
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the_israelite
Rio de JaneiroRio de Janeiro
Brazil
34, joined Apr. 2016
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Men should play hard to get. They are always in too big of a hurry for sex
The power of the dating game in Western societies seem too imbalanced for that. If one may plays too hard to get, it seems that a woman can easily find other men who will play along, since it seems that eager men come a dime a dozen.
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5/22/2016 6:59:39 PM |
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easttowest72
Bremen, GA
44, joined Sep. 2014
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A man can be interesting and sexy without bringing up sex or massage. Men should just let things happen naturally
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5/22/2016 7:06:05 PM |
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mrfckinpetey
Orlando, FL
31, joined Jun. 2014
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A man can be interesting and sexy without bringing up sex or massage. Men should just let things happen naturally
Yeeaaahhhh, and when we do that it's awesome for you.
You have to understand that men are naturally ego maniacs. It's how we survive as a species. You can't have all yin and no yang. And part of that ego includes wanting to express sexual dominance everywhere.
If we can charm you with sweet talk, clever word tricks, smile and eye contact, etc then that's great, but it'll never compete with being able to charm you with prowess. There's nothing that replaces the rush a man gets when he thumps his chest, roars, and women swoon. Which is why most men take that approach. It's worth being seen as complete idiot pigs, because in the 1 in 50 chance that some random girl will go with it...holy f**king shit...it's the greatest feeling in the world.
That's why women who know this and know how to tease and string men along the path of ego, can make men do whatever the f**k they want.
If you try to tame a man, men. You'll just create something you never wanted in the first place. You only thought you wanted it, and 10 years later you'll be confused.
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5/22/2016 7:48:36 PM |
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pagal17
Lancaster, PA
51, joined May. 2012
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Why not enjoy the sex without the entanglement of expectation? Sounds like you're already set on breaking up before you start dating.
You might be pleasantly surprised when you choose to just enjoy the moment and not get trapped in a future that may or may not exist.
Your power is in the now.
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