Who/What is the real Messiah?

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nonstandard York, PA 55, joined Jun. 2009	The cold war was the best thing that ever happened to us . 30 yrs of peace , because two world powers chose life over death . They learned to accept each other , because they wanted to continue living . Now we're back to the same old routine . Your better , if they aren't like you , kill'em . Feel justified and righteous about killing . This is how every war started in the past . This is how all wars continue today .
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cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010	..^...standard, that is irresponsible instigation. Allow me to inquire: Are you, or do you, have a clone?
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iam_resurrected Reno, NV 47, joined Jul. 2014	Quote from satanself36: Revelation 19.11-16 (NIV) 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 15 Coming out of [his mouth] is a [sharp sword] with which to [strike down the nations]. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.” He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and [on] his [thigh] he has this [name] written: [king of kings] and [lord of lords]. Can any interpret this in a modern day termology as who the Messiah is. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the ((Word of God)). John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. JESUS. 15 Coming out of [his mouth] is a [sharp sword] with which to [strike down the nations]. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.” He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. Col 1:15 Who is ((the image of the invisible God)), the firstborn of every creature: if you remove the flesh of Jesus what makes Him holy and Anointed is Christ. Christ is invisible because you see JESUS. Christ is the Invisible God because He is the image. So, when the invisible God looks into a mirror he see's himself as the invisible CHRIST the Anointed Messiah. This is why Jesus said, if you have SEEN my father you HAVE SEEN me. if you see the ME (the real me (CHRIST GOD/invisible)) then you SEE my father. yep, this makes Christ God and the God Jehova in the Old Testament... Jesus in John 8 was asked who art thou? Jesus answered, I AM before Abram, I AM THAT I AM (so Christ is placing himself at the burning bush with Moses (I AM THAT I AM). Hebrews calls Christ Melchizedek meaning Jesus was Abraham's High Priest. so clearly the body of Jesus has always been the physical appearance of God. and the invisible God and invisible Anointed Christ are one in the SAME.
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tame97_2 TsowkêyWanganui New Zealand 37, joined May. 2016	Quote from thephoenix217: The Goddess/God in you. No one wasborn with religion. I don't need a book or Hue-man telling me what's in my heart. I worship the SUN. If there id no SUN - There will be nothing living. Why not look beyond the sun?
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rey2140 Sullivan, OH 48, joined Sep. 2013	iam resurrected, Hebrews doesn't call Jesus Melchezedik, but rather Jesus came in the "order" of Melchezedik. For Melchezedik was high priest unto God in the O.T. Which in all probability melchezedik was Shem, Noah's son.
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cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010	Melchizedek is most probably Shem, son of Noah. Shem was the 'King of Salem'. Salem is the shortened version of Jerusalem. Shem was High Priest. The High Priest was called Melchizedek. Shem passed the High Priest position to Abram (Abraham). Melchizedek is a title: in HEBREW it means: "my king is righteousness" or "king of righteousness". Jesus was a descendant of the lineage of Abraham -- of the Order of Melchizedek.
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rey2140 Sullivan, OH 48, joined Sep. 2013	Cupofcheer, Where did you find Melchizedek being a title and the title being passed onto Abraham? For I would like to read that for myself. According to the book of Jasher, Abraham spent many years in the house of Noah. Shem had a school whom he taught all that would listen. But other than Jasher, I've not found to much on the subject.
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cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010	Genesis Chapter 14
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followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	* 93:2.1 It was 1,973 years before the birth of Jesus that Machiventa [Melchizedek] was bestowed upon the human races of Urantia. His coming was unspectacular; his materialization was not witnessed by human eyes. He was first observed by mortal man on that eventful day when he entered the tent of Amdon, a Chaldean herder of Sumerian extraction. And the proclamation of his mission was embodied in the simple statement which he made to this shepherd, “I am Melchizedek, priest of El Elyon, the Most High, the one and only God.” 93:2.2 When the herder had recovered from his astonishment, and after he had plied this stranger with many questions, he asked Melchizedek to sup with him, and this was the first time in his long universe career that Machiventa had partaken of material food, the nourishment which was to sustain him throughout his ninety-four years of life as a material being. 93:2.3 And that night, as they talked out under the stars, Melchizedek began his mission of the revelation of the truth of the reality of God when, with a sweep of his arm, he turned to Amdon, saying, “El Elyon, the Most High, is the divine creator of the stars of the firmament and even of this very earth on which we live, and he is also the supreme God of heaven.” 93:2.4 Within a few years Melchizedek had gathered around himself a group of pupils, disciples, and believers who formed the nucleus of the later community of Salem. He was soon known throughout Palestine as the priest of El Elyon, the Most High, and as the sage of Salem. Among some of the surrounding tribes he was often referred to as the sheik, or king, of Salem. Salem was the site which after the disappearance of Melchizedek became the city of Jebus, subsequently being called Jerusalem. 93:2.5 In personal appearance, Melchizedek resembled the then blended Nodite and Sumerian peoples, being almost six feet in height and possessing a commanding presence. He spoke Chaldean and a half dozen other languages. He dressed much as did the Canaanite priests except that on his breast he wore an emblem of three concentric circles, the Satania symbol of the Paradise Trinity. In the course of his ministry this insignia of three concentric circles became regarded as so sacred by his followers that they never dared to use it, and it was soon forgotten with the passing of a few generations. 93:2.6 Though Machiventa lived after the manner of the men of the realm, he never married, nor could he have left offspring on earth. His physical body, while resembling that of the human male, was in reality on the order of those especially constructed bodies used by the one hundred materialized members of Prince Caligastia’s staff except that it did not carry the life plasm of any human race. Nor was there available on Urantia the tree of life. Had Machiventa remained for any long period on earth, his physical mechanism would have gradually deteriorated; as it was, he terminated his bestowal mission in ninety-four years long before his material body had begun to disintegrate. 93:2.7 This incarnated Melchizedek received a Thought Adjuster, who indwelt his superhuman personality as the monitor of time and the mentor of the flesh, thus gaining that experience and practical introduction to Urantian problems and to the technique of indwelling an incarnated Son which enabled this spirit of the Father to function so valiantly in the human mind of the later Son of God, Michael, when he appeared on earth in the likeness of mortal flesh. And this is the only Thought Adjuster who ever functioned in two minds on Urantia, but both minds were divine as well as human. 93:2.8 During the incarnation in the flesh, Machiventa was in full contact with his eleven fellows of the corps of planetary custodians, but he could not communicate with other orders of celestial personalities. Aside from the Melchizedek receivers, he had no more contact with superhuman intelligences than a human being. -The Urantia Book
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rey2140 Sullivan, OH 48, joined Sep. 2013	FollowJesusonly, I had often heard of Jerusalem being called Jebus, or after the Jebusites. I've done many searches on the Melchizedek, but I've never came across it in the Urantia as a reference. Its interesting.
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followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	[]Quote from rey2140:[/][]FollowJesusonly, I had often heard of Jerusalem being called Jebus, or after the Jebusites. I've done many searches on the Melchizedek, but I've never came across it in the Urantia as a reference. Its interesting.[/] ============================================================================== Paper 93 in The Urantia Book is all about Melchizedek. I just posted a part of it. "Melchizedek" is apparently a class of celestial beings and the one who appeared here 4000 years ago with Abraham, his name is Machiventa Melchizedek. Actually, there are 3 Papers in the book that directly relate to Melchizedek: Paper 93. Machiventa Melchizedek Paper 94. The Melchizedek Teachings in the Orient Paper 95. The Melchizedek Teachings in the Levant And yeah, when Ludlow says the word "church," he only means the Roman Catholic church. He is very very indoctrinated into it. And he just blocked me. Haha. Praise the Lord.
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rey2140 Sullivan, OH 48, joined Sep. 2013	Quote from followjesusonly: []Quote from rey2140:[/][]FollowJesusonly, I had often heard of Jerusalem being called Jebus, or after the Jebusites. I've done many searches on the Melchizedek, but I've never came across it in the Urantia as a reference. Its interesting.[/] ============================================================================== Paper 93 in The Urantia Book is all about Melchizedek. I just posted a part of it. "Melchizedek" is apparently a class of celestial beings and the one who appeared here 4000 years ago with Abraham, his name is Machiventa Melchizedek. Actually, there are 3 Papers in the book that directly relate to Melchizedek: Paper 93. Machiventa Melchizedek Paper 94. The Melchizedek Teachings in the Orient Paper 95. The Melchizedek Teachings in the Levant And yeah, when Ludlow says the word "church," he only means the Roman Catholic church. He is very very indoctrinated into it. And he just blocked me. Haha. Praise the Lord. I've been reading some of Hiram Butler's writings. While I do not agree on half of what he wrote, the other half makes sense. Everybody has their own idea. I will most definitely check it out... thank you
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followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	[]Quote from rey2140:[/][]I've been reading some of Hiram Butler's writings. While I do not agree on half of what he wrote, the other half makes sense. Everybody has their own idea. I will most definitely check it out... thank you[/] ================================================================================== Great. If you have any questions, let me know. Btw, if you happen to buy a book, this is the cover I recommend. It has a great Index and it's two column. It's: The Urantia Book: Indexed Version With QR Code For A Free Audio Book Paperback $ 15.98 (I just checked the price, but sometimes Amazon.com fiddles with it.) That's for a 2000 page book at Amazon.com. This one:
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followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	* I never heard of Hiram Butler. Googled but I don't seem to be getting what he's about, if I even have the right guy. One says he was an "Obscurantist." What's that, do you know? Do you have a link you can send me on this guy? Is he related to Mormonism or the Freemasons? I got this: Founder of the American branch of the Order of Melchizedek. In 1889, he moved to California and created a mystical center on 260 acres overlooking the American River near Applegate in Placer County. He died in 1916. (Messengers of Deception, 127) Is that him? Thanks.
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rey2140 Sullivan, OH 48, joined Sep. 2013	Quote from followjesusonly: * I never heard of Hiram Butler. Googled but I don't seem to be getting what he's about, if I even have the right guy. One says he was an "Obscurantist." What's that, do you know? Do you have a link you can send me on this guy? Is he related to Mormonism or the Freemasons? I got this: Founder of the American branch of the Order of Melchizedek. In 1889, he moved to California and created a mystical center on 260 acres overlooking the American River near Applegate in Placer County. He died in 1916. (Messengers of Deception, 127) Is that him? Thanks. I originally found him in "Reluctant Messenger" Lost and forgotten books. Much old work there. He was a solar biologist in the 1800's probably defected from masonry near as I can tell. He had a rather wild idea about the 144,000 in revelation among other things. But the way he explains God has made me except things I've contemplated over the years just never was able to put it together. The book I'm currently on is The goal of life. Its 50/50. That reluctant messenger is where I found most of what I know of Melchizedek and Butler hits on him as well. What you call a celestial being, I believe he would call one of the Elohim. I believe what you have is the right person. Thanks again for the info
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followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	* The Reluctant Messenger site says: "Why does it appear that the theory of evolution and the Genesis account of creation are at odds? Simple genealogical math gives us a total of less than 6,000 years since God created Adam and Eve as described in Genesis, yet Science tells us the fossil records go back 3.6 billion years? How can we reconcile this paradox? See History: Life Evolves and Early Man Before Adam. Creation Paradox Explanation: Start Here Why do we have so many religions? Three true religions, Hinduism, Sikhism and Buddhism, believe in reincarnation. Three other true religions, Judaism, Christianity and Sufism believe in a resurrection. How can they both be right? These and other paradoxes can be explained if you have the missing information. The reason we can't reconcile the theory of evolution with the Genesis account of creation, or the apparent contradiction of reincarnation and a resurrection is because of one simple yet key piece of information. This website provides that missing piece of information." I would say that The Urantia Book provides all the missing information, and in great detail. I'm going to post the table of contents below, the names of the Papers, for Part III of The Urantia Book, THE HISTORY OF URANTIA [The History of Earth] PART III. THE HISTORY OF URANTIA Paper 57. The Origin of Urantia Paper 58. Life Establishment on Urantia Paper 59. The Marine-Life Era on Urantia Paper 60. Urantia during the Early Land-Life Era Paper 61. The Mammalian Era on Urantia Paper 62. The Dawn Races of Early Man Paper 63. The First Human Family Paper 64. The Evolutionary Races of Color Paper 65. The Overcontrol of Evolution Paper 66. The Planetary Prince of Urantia Paper 67. The Planetary Rebellion Paper 68. The Dawn of Civilization Paper 69. Primitive Human Institutions Paper 70. The Evolution of Human Government Paper 71. Development of the State Paper 72. Government on a Neighboring Planet Paper 73. The Garden of Eden Paper 74. Adam and Eve Paper 75. The Default of Adam and Eve Paper 76. The Second Garden Paper 77. The Midway Creatures Paper 78. The Violet Race after the Days of Adam Paper 79. Andite Expansion in the Orient Paper 80. Andite Expansion in the Occident Paper 81. Development of Modern Civilization Paper 82. The Evolution of Marriage Paper 83. The Marriage Institution Paper 84. Marriage and Family Life Paper 85. The Origins of Worship Paper 86. Early Evolution of Religion Paper 87. The Ghost Cults Paper 88. Fetishes, Charms, and Magic Paper 89. Sin, Sacrifice, and Atonement Paper 90. Shamanism - Medicine Men and Priests Paper 91. The Evolution of Prayer Paper 92. The Later Evolution of Religion Paper 93. Machiventa Melchizedek Paper 94. The Melchizedek Teachings in the Orient Paper 95. The Melchizedek Teachings in the Levant Paper 96. Yahweh - God of the Hebrews Paper 97. Evolution of the God Concept among the Hebrews Paper 98. The Melchizedek Teachings in the Occident Paper 99. Social Problems of Religion Paper 100. Religion in Human Experience Paper 101. The Real Nature of Religion Paper 102. The Foundations of Religious Faith Paper 103. The Reality of Religious Experience Paper 104. Growth of the Trinity Concept Paper 105. Deity and Reality Paper 106. Universe Levels of Reality Paper 107. Origin and Nature of Thought Adjusters Paper 108. Mission and Ministry of Thought Adjusters Paper 109. Relation of Adjusters to Universe Creatures Paper 110. Relation of Adjusters to Individual Mortals Paper 111. The Adjuster and the Soul Paper 112. Personality Survival Paper 113. The Seraphic Guardians of Destiny Paper 114. Seraphic Planetary Government Paper 115. The Supreme Being Paper 116. The Almighty Supreme Paper 117. God the Supreme Paper 118. Supreme and Ultimate - Time and Space Paper 119. The Bestowals of Christ Michael
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