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cern_
Danville, KY
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A: Apollonius: thought to be born in year 3 of the common era (c.e.) in Turkey and died at the end of the first century after escaping from a Roman prison. He healed the sick, had ESP, raised the dead, walked through doors with ease (many more "miracles" too) and cast out "demons." After his death he blasted off to "heaven" in a rocket ship but came back to talk to his desciples before blasting off again.
B: Siddhartha Gautama (the Buddha): born of the virgin Maya (another word for Mary) after she was visted by the "holy ghost" about 2,600 hundred years ago. Buddha was born with a halo and told his virgin mom, "I will put to an end the suffering and sorrow in this world." He pulled off many "miracles" in his life before being crucified. Naturally, on the 3rd day he decided that being dead wasn't much fun so he blasted off to "heaven."
C: Mithra: thought to have been born about 2,600 years ago and his birthday was celebrated on Dec. 25th. Magi brought gifts to Mithra at the time of his birth. His first followers were shepherds and he traveled Persia with his 12 desciples until he was crucified to take away the "sins" of humankind. Mithra had a "Last Supper" with his desciples prior to being slain and taking his spacecraft to "heaven" on the following day. Obviously Mithra pulled off many "miracles" and his followers had a weekly sabbath where they would eat wafers that had a sign of the cross and they also celebrated Easter.
D: Attis: born of the virgin Nana in Phrygia more than 2,200 years ago. Hanged on a tree in the spring, resurrected and became known as "Father God" to his followers before his rocket ship-trip to "heaven."
E: Krishna (Hinduism): born of the virgin Devaki more than 3,200 years ago. A voice from "heaven" announced to Devaki, "In thy delivery, O favored among women, all nations shall have cause to rejoice." Krishna's birth was heralded by a star and "wise men" brought him gifts. Krishna pulled off numerous "miracles" in his life, was crucified and then blasted off to "heaven." Oh, yeah, Krishna began speaking to his virgin mommy (just like the myths of Buddha and Jesus) shortly after his birth.
F: Quexalcote: thought to have been born more than 2,600 years ago in Mexico by his virgin mommy, Chimalman (she was born by a virgin too, just like mother Mary). Quexalcote had 40 days of temptation and fasting, he liked to ride on an ass, forgave "sinners" and baptized people. Right, you guessed it, crucified beside 2 theives and resurrected on the 3rd day and then blasted off to "heaven."
G: Horus: thought to be born around 3,500 years ago in Egypt to his virgin mommy, Isis. Received gifts from 3 kings as a baby, was crucified and then a spacecraft-ride to "heaven."
H: the god Adonis was born about 4,000 years ago to his virgin mom, Ishtar (another word for Easter). Little divine Adonis was held in the arms of his mom as she was hailed as the "Queen of Heaven" -- just as in Jesus/Mary myth. Adonis was thought to be both the son and husband of his mother, "God the Father and God the Son" -- kind of like the Jesus myth, huh?
I: Quirinus was a Roman "savior" who was born 2,520 years ago to, of course, a virgin mom. When he was crucified by King Amulius the entire planet shook and was enveloped in darkness, just like you know who's myth.
J: Indra: born in Thibet 2,739 years ago to his virgin mommy. Indra descended from "heaven" on a mission of benevolence and could walk on water and walk in the sky. He led a life of strict celibacy and devout contemplation and also could fortell future events. He was a kind man, just like all "sin-atoning saviors." Regardless, Indra was nailed to a cross, died and returned to his "heavenly mansion."
There are several dozen of these "savior" myths that were created by people that were being oppressed. The last was Wovoka of the Paiute American Indians in 1890.
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4/24/2014 2:42:30 PM |
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thunder_lover71
Mount Pleasant, MI
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Obama isn't from America
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4/24/2014 2:47:18 PM |
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killingmesoft1y
Memphis, TN
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I take it you don't believe in immaculate conceptions?
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4/24/2014 2:53:08 PM |
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tazz_mania4
Morehead City, NC
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^^^
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4/24/2014 3:03:55 PM |
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tazz_mania4
Morehead City, NC
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How about the Loch-ness-monster.
It turned out to be a remote control model.lol
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4/24/2014 3:09:57 PM |
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way2old2getsome
Austin, TX
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There are several dozen of these "savior" myths that were created by people that were being oppressed. The last was Wovoka of the Paiute American Indians in 1890.
More recently there was the Flying Spaghetti Monster, created by "too much time on one's hands", oppressed only by the lingering guilt of un-returned library books.
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4/24/2014 3:13:42 PM |
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fdinthehead
Gibsonia, PA
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Who posted above me?
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4/24/2014 3:23:47 PM |
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cern_
Danville, KY
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I take it you don't believe in immaculate conceptions?
Well, a virgin can give birth today via in vitro fertilization (IVF) but, of course, not 5,000 years ago. And an "immaculate conception" refers to the virgin birth of grandmommies of saviors -- only 2 of those silly stories in the list. The only point that I'm making is that there's absolutely nothing original to the Jesus myth.
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4/24/2014 5:27:31 PM |
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molark
Chicago, IL
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Obamacare is for losers
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4/24/2014 5:42:17 PM |
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niterydah
Houston, TX
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.........that we really vote a president into office
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4/24/2014 5:43:27 PM |
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bigdinv
Houston, TX
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The mythological clit.
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4/24/2014 5:45:10 PM |
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niterydah
Houston, TX
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............. that adonis n krishna are older than horus
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4/24/2014 5:54:38 PM |
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pickygirl72
Picher, OK
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That you can find a date on DH. Oh definitely a myth, maybe even an urban legend.
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4/24/2014 6:08:45 PM |
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bruce_2014
Dothan, AL
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Lets not forget Jesus - right along side the other myths.
In fact as you said, these myths were carried right into the whole Jesus story.
hummm
So you cannot say Jesus was the true savior nor more than you can dismiss Mithra and a host of others in the the myth stories that told part of the same Jesus story long before his birth and teaching.
borrowed stories? I say yes...
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jimmyjameszzzz1
Ventura, CA
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Obama isn't from America
now that is a myth! Kenya is missing the village IDIOT!
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4/24/2014 9:01:52 PM |
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cern_
Danville, KY
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............. that adonis n krishna are older than horus
The first stories about Krishna appear in the Bhagavad Gita and Hindus claim for it an antiquity of 6,000 years. Later writings about the Krishna myth appear to place the guy as having lived 3,200 years ago. Like all religionists the Hindus change the dates of their hero. Regardless, many scholars of the Jesus myth think that it was stolen from the Gita.
The story of the Godman Adonis goes back 4,000 years. So they're both older than the myth of Horus.
The point is, regardless of dating, that the story of Jesus is just another crock -- it never happened!
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thunder_lover71
Mount Pleasant, MI
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now that is a myth! Kenya is missing the village IDIOT!
No that's a fact he isn't from america
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4/24/2014 9:04:16 PM |
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pdforone
Litchfield, OH
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4/24/2014 10:07:51 PM |
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cern_
Danville, KY
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Lets not forget Jesus - right along side the other myths.
In fact as you said, these myths were carried right into the whole Jesus story.
hummm
So you cannot say Jesus was the true savior nor more than you can dismiss Mithra and a host of others in the the myth stories that told part of the same Jesus story long before his birth and teaching.
borrowed stories? I say yes...
The stories of everybody mentioned on the list, including Jesus, are lies. There has never been a "savior" of anything in the history of human mammals. The bible was revised so many times that it wasn't even finished until the 13th century. There weren't even "angels" in the original version. And, yes, theologians used to debate how many "angels" could sit on the head of a pin. Quite fitting, I'd say, because all Christians are pinheads -- regardless of which of the almost 34,000 denominations to which they belong.
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niterydah
Houston, TX
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The first stories about Krishna appear in the Bhagavad Gita and Hindus claim for it an antiquity of 6,000 years. Later writings about the Krishna myth appear to place the guy as having lived 3,200 years ago. Like all religionists the Hindus change the dates of their hero. Regardless, many scholars of the Jesus myth think that it was stolen from the Gita.
The story of the Godman Adonis goes back 4,000 years. So they're both older than the myth of Horus.
The point is, regardless of dating, that the story of Jesus is just another crock -- it never happened!
............i agree that the jesus story is mythology but the the falcon god horus was more than likely in existence before egypt was born n egypt was born before persia,india or greece
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4/24/2014 10:12:55 PM |
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ronleeseberg
Mauston, WI
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A tinfoil hat will keep the government from reading your thoughts.
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4/24/2014 10:40:05 PM |
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cern_
Danville, KY
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............i agree that the jesus story is mythology but the the falcon god horus was more than likely in existence before egypt was born n egypt was born before persia,india or greece
Why do you even care about the dating of modern-day nation-states when the real point, the only point, is that all of the stories are nothing but lies?! What's the difference between the falcon god, the blue elephant god and the talking snake god? NONE.
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4/24/2014 11:17:15 PM |
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driver406
Saint Paul, MN
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Obama isn't from America
KENYA!
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4/24/2014 11:32:46 PM |
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cern_
Danville, KY
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A tinfoil hat will keep the government from reading your thoughts.
Why would you wear a hat made out of tin foil? Did you read that it was highly recommended in the book about the talking snake god so as to crush all of your critical thinking faculties? A book that endorses killing "witches," endorses slavery, rape, all other types of violence, anything but peace and hatred of your family. A book that says absolutely nothing about abortion. That's your ebony-skinned rabbi Jesus for you, tin foil guy. You probably think that there's some historical evidence for that maniac's existence, huh? Sorry, there is none.
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4/25/2014 11:18:41 AM |
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cern_
Danville, KY
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That you can find a date on DH. Oh definitely a myth, maybe even an urban legend.
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4/25/2014 12:35:40 PM |
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orz
Portage, WI
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Man creates gods in his image or monsters so he can try to comprehend an in-comprehensible world. He hopes in magic and heaven to get through his daily trials. And religions are invented to control humans from killing each other. And then use that religion as an excuse to kill and call it justifiable war. The truth is that humans are incapable of understanding the why and hows of life. And we are scared. There is comfort in fairy tales and gods. They give us an explanation to hold onto and allow us to move on with life. The odd thing is that across the globe and time, civilizations came up with identical concepts. Perhaps Aliens DID start humans on their paths.
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4/25/2014 12:53:41 PM |
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bigd44906
Mansfield, OH
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What I'd like to know is how is it every time someone brings up any subject, asshats have to bring politics into it? For what purpose? Do you think we haven't heard your pathetic arguments already regardless of what side of the fence you are on or sitting on?
What's even funnier is how a lot of you believe in these politicians - almost as if you believe they give a damn about you. Hahahahaha Dream on, dumbass. You may as well pray to the Great Pumpkin because no one cares about you in either Washington DC or your state's capitol.
And yet you argue politics among yourselves like born-agains & atheists battle it out. Obama this, Bush that, Clinton this, Reagan that. While sometimes the arguments are interesting, for the most part they are just rehashed rhetoric that has been better said by much wiser folk.
That's the REAL myth: believing that politicians care about anyone other than themselves.
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4/25/2014 5:33:56 PM |
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mylegsarecold
Gainesville, FL
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The #1 myth is that people are inherently good.
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4/25/2014 5:48:36 PM |
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lookin4him2012
Boone, NC
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You lost me at Apollonius
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4/25/2014 6:01:28 PM |
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prettypeas
Cadott, WI
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This is true.
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4/25/2014 6:30:16 PM |
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vanir
Victoria
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Apollonius of Tyana was an actual person, his face is on an asiatic coin of the period. Due to people mentioned in his biographies his lifetime is established as being 15-98CE, meaning he'd have to have lived to at least 95 to have been born in 3CE (the claim of one biographer but not others). The account of him by Philostratus is considered academically dubious, at best highly fictionalized, and Apollonius of Tyana was oddly, never really heard about at all in western europe until the 3rd century, which is when Philostratus wrote his work. Seems strange for a miracle worker extremely active in Greece, Italy, Macedonia, Spain and North Africa as well as central Asia, Mesopotamia, Ethopia and India. Yet unheard of in any corroberative records around the western Mediterranean until Philostratus' book. Strange, bit like the Jesus myth yes, except Apollonius of Tyana was an actual person this can be established, Philostratus' account of his life however seems a fiction.
The earliest archaeological reference to Krishna is ca.800BCE and earliest textual reference is 400BCE. There are older but extremely loose possible references claimed by some Indian scholars, but the same scholars tend to assert India as the first human civilisation, the inventor of algebra, the most advanced nation in the world and I don't think it's a big stretch to consider their publications something other than any objective appraisal.
Quetzalcoatl didn't become an anthropomorphic mythology until the 7th century CE, long after Christianity was established and in fact after dedicated Christianisation of European and other pagan cultures had begun. Prior to this Quetzalcoatl meant something different, and a variety of different things to the olmec, maya and aztec.
Isis wasn't a virgin at all, she was wife of Osiris the king of the Gods. Osiris was murdered by Seth the Lord of the desert wastelands. Seth murdered Osiris by tricking him into stepping into a magical coffin which rendered him immobile then dismembering him and spreading his body parts all over the Nile delta. Isis was so distraught she gathered up all the pieces and mourned over them.
Seth happened to be married to Isis' sister Nepthythis, who also happened to be a powerful sorceress and possibly where Seth got his magical coffin from. Isis was a sorceress too but not as powerful as Nephythis, whom was probably married to Seth in an effort to keep him under control.
Nephythis gave Isis a magical spell of rebirth to bring back Osiris in the form of a son. Isis took the spell and cast it upon the dismembered penis of Osiris which she had gathered, and had sex with it. This made her pregnant with Horus, whose name basically means 'vengeance.'
Horus grew to become a powerful, divine warrior god, hunted down Seth and slaughtered him.
No three kings gave Horus gifts, but you might loosely say that the combination of divine gifts from Osiris, Isis and Nepthythis was responsible for his birth and he is child to all three.
Nephythis is where the word "nepotism" comes from by the way.
There are some very loose parallels between the Horus cult and the denominations of christianity which specifically admonish the child-god aspect as opposed to pentacostal reinvention of old testament fire and brimstone. But they're very loose parallels like both are child gods. The mythologies don't seem very similar.
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vanir
Victoria
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The Horus myth actually has much more in common with the old-hebrew messaniac figure Christians claim Jesus was the incarnation of, but demonstrably hebrew religion disagrees. The hebrew messiah is Yahweh, which means 'military leader'. His job is to lead the armies of Israel in war (typically, of vengeance). Yahweh-elohim, a slightly different term is mistranslated in Christian bibles as 'the LORD God" but it doesn't mean that, and Yahweh on its own is the anthropomorphic military leader, but you can see where Christian myth likens Jesus with God as part of the holy trinity, since the hebrew name of the messiah and the term mistranslated to mean God have the same name in them. Elohim on its own means 'divine splendor', the term is probably derived from a Mesopotamian word meaning divine strength, also used as the name of a god of strength in that culture, El.
ie. you could liken Horus myth to the hebrew messianic mythology but not the Christian one.
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4/25/2014 7:03:14 PM |
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vanir
Victoria
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My favourite myth that many people think is true is the "people used to think the world wss flat" myth.
Not since 2500BCE they didn't, at least not in any civilised culture's scholastic education systems.
The progression basically goes, ancient Egyptians defined "the world" as being the Nile delta region and didn't really include anywhere else in their mythology (that a brother/sister couple represented the earth and sky only related to the area of Egypt).
Yet the Egyptian proto-engineers clearly used accurate longitude and latitude in the organisation of structures at Giza for example, which demonstrates a mathematical understanding of a spherical planet, if not a mythological or philosophical one.
The Mesopotamians clearly outlined the earth was concave and referenced the curvature of the horizon in records and mythology, but did assert an 'underworld' which existed under this concave disc.
By the Hellenistic period ca.1500BCE it was clearly understood, and thereafter throughout all educated Greco-Roman cultures and followed on by the Catholic dictates of "scientific truths" (which is actually directly resulted from Greek philosophies established in Roman education), the world was not only spherical, but a calculus estimating its dimensions during the period, established as scientific truth, is within 3000km of the actual circumference of the Earth. An amazing accomplishment.
Not since the neolithic period has anybody with access to a library or any kind of civilised education system believed the world was flat. Only stone age cultures without education systems have believed this, not "people" as in the history of civilisations. The mediaeval church did not believe the world was flat, they knew it was round and even knew its approximate diameter. The mediaeval monarchies did not belive the world was flat they knew what the church knew and believed it, and it's accurate.
What "people" used to believe was that the Earth was the centre of the solar system mechanically, and the universe in general, and this was a divine inheritance placing man above all other living creatures before the gods or God.
That was also from the greeks. Didn't change until modern astronomy proved otherwise, only in recent centuries.
Nobody ever believed the world was flat, they believed mankind was the centre of the universe, so the Earth had to be. One is stupid, the other arrogant, people aren't actually stupid, they're arrogant.
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mysticalsag9
Clarksburg, WV
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That some had said the world was going to end on 12- 21 - 2012
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4/25/2014 7:58:21 PM |
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prettypeas
Cadott, WI
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if vanir keeps talking like that, he just might ruin me for all other men.
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anstarr777
Reading, PA
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You forgot one.
"Land of the free and home of the brave"
Hey C*CKasian, your new profile picture looks like you're about to swallow a CAWK.
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4/25/2014 11:59:44 PM |
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cern_
Danville, KY
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Apollonius of Tyana was an actual person, his face is on an asiatic coin of the period. Due to people mentioned in his biographies his lifetime is established as being 15-98CE, meaning he'd have to have lived to at least 95 to have been born in 3CE (the claim of one biographer but not others). The account of him by Philostratus is considered academically dubious, at best highly fictionalized, and Apollonius of Tyana was oddly, never really heard about at all in western europe until the 3rd century, which is when Philostratus wrote his work. Seems strange for a miracle worker extremely active in Greece, Italy, Macedonia, Spain and North Africa as well as central Asia, Mesopotamia, Ethopia and India. Yet unheard of in any corroberative records around the western Mediterranean until Philostratus' book. Strange, bit like the Jesus myth yes, except Apollonius of Tyana was an actual person this can be established, Philostratus' account of his life however seems a fiction.
The earliest archaeological reference to Krishna is ca.800BCE and earliest textual reference is 400BCE. There are older but extremely loose possible references claimed by some Indian scholars, but the same scholars tend to assert India as the first human civilisation, the inventor of algebra, the most advanced nation in the world and I don't think it's a big stretch to consider their publications something other than any objective appraisal.
Quetzalcoatl didn't become an anthropomorphic mythology until the 7th century CE, long after Christianity was established and in fact after dedicated Christianisation of European and other pagan cultures had begun. Prior to this Quetzalcoatl meant something different, and a variety of different things to the olmec, maya and aztec.
Isis wasn't a virgin at all, she was wife of Osiris the king of the Gods. Osiris was murdered by Seth the Lord of the desert wastelands. Seth murdered Osiris by tricking him into stepping into a magical coffin which rendered him immobile then dismembering him and spreading his body parts all over the Nile delta. Isis was so distraught she gathered up all the pieces and mourned over them.
Seth happened to be married to Isis' sister Nepthythis, who also happened to be a powerful sorceress and
possibly where Seth got his magical coffin from. Isis was a sorceress too but not as powerful as Nephythis, whom was probably married to Seth in an effort to keep him under control.
Nephythis gave Isis a magical spell of rebirth to bring back Osiris in the form of a son. Isis took the spell and cast it upon the dismembered penis of Osiris which she had gathered, and had sex with it. This made her pregnant with Horus, whose name basically means 'vengeance.'
Horus grew to become a powerful, divine warrior god, hunted down Seth and slaughtered him.
No three kings gave Horus gifts, but you might loosely say that the combination of divine gifts from Osiris, Isis and Nepthythis was responsible for his birth and he is child to all three.
Nephythis is where the word "nepotism" comes from by the way.
There are some very loose parallels between the Horus cult and the denominations of christianity which specifically admonish the child-god aspect as opposed to pentacostal reinvention of old testament fire and
brimstone. But they're very loose parallels like both are child gods. The mythologies don't seem very similar.
Obviously the literature that you've read is different than that I've read. And what does it matter, there never was a virgin birth of a "miracle man" or any other child in the days of primitive ignoramuses and there never was or will be a resurrection of anybody, and you know that.
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cern_
Danville, KY
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This is true.
I'll grant you that the picture is truly fake. Although I don't know why you think that it has anything to do with anything and neither do you.
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4/26/2014 8:43:11 AM |
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prettypeas
Cadott, WI
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I'll grant you that the picture is truly fake. Although I don't know why you think that it has anything to do with anything and neither do you.
ummmmm, maybe because this thread belongs in Religion Forum?
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cern_
Danville, KY
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ummmmm, maybe because this thread belongs in Religion Forum?
If I thought that it belonged somewhere else don't you think that I would have put it there? Do you feel threatened for it to be included in the "General Discussion" section? Obviously you do or you wouldn't have made such a silly comment. This is serious business, lady, because people care about these ludicrous myths and when people actually think that they took place it makes them really dumb and really crazy. It makes them intolerant, angry, hate-filled and not amenable to scientific facts and progress, etc. To think that these events actually took place makes it almost impossible to think with reason. Quote by Catholic and leader of the Protestant Reformation, Martin Luther: "REASON should be destroyed in all Christians." And that would be applicable to people of all religions!
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4/26/2014 10:42:03 AM |
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prettypeas
Cadott, WI
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)
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4/26/2014 11:21:31 AM |
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cern_
Danville, KY
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Nope, I don't feel threatened. I belong to no religion.
Here's some history of books and stories for you, grounded in facts.
Library of Alexandria
What are your thoughts on how you or anything, including this massive universe, came to be? It was all created for your viewing pleasure, right? -- talk about egocentrism! I'm sure that you've got some Sky Guy (a god) floating around in your mind somewhere or you wouldn't have used the word 'religion' in your last two posts. What, did you come up with the god hypothesis all by yourself? Of course not, you had to have been taught to believe in a Sky Guy through exposure to some religion and you know that. Sure, there have been and are great libraries on all continents but what does that have to do with anything about anything? Nothing, that's what.
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prettypeas
Cadott, WI
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What are your thoughts on how you or anything, including this massive universe, came to be? It was all created for your viewing pleasure, right? -- talk about egocentrism! I'm sure that you've got some Sky Guy (a god) floating around in your mind somewhere or you wouldn't have used the word 'religion' in your last two posts. What, did you come up with the god hypothesis all by yourself? Of course not, you had to have been taught to believe in a Sky Guy through exposure to some religion and you know that. Sure, there have been and are great libraries on all continents but what does that have to do with anything about anything? Nothing, that's what.
Whoa, that's an awful lot of words you just stuck in my mouth for me!
What's that have to do with anything about anything? I suppose I WAS agreeing with you, you a**hole. That Caesar and again by the Pope at that time, Theophilus, burned the libraries. And shaped the minds of their followers to be more easily controlled with myths....errrr religions. Don't read through things, do ya?
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4/26/2014 12:35:38 PM |
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orz
Portage, WI
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The one fact is that religions have stories that any SciFi writer would envy. The problem is that too many people accept them without question and use them to do evil and not the good that may be within them. I read and watch some fantasy and fiction and am happy that they write this stuff and don't DO them. And wonder about the sanity of the writers.
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4/26/2014 12:44:08 PM |
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cern_
Danville, KY
62, joined Mar. 2014
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Whoa, that's an awful lot of words you just stuck in my mouth for me!
What's that have to do with anything about anything? I suppose I WAS agreeing with you, you a**hole. That Caesar and again by the Pope at that time, Theophilus, burned the libraries. And shaped the minds of their followers to be more easily controlled with myths....errrr religions. Don't read through things, do ya?
How am I supposed to know what you're saying about anything when all you have done is squawk, in a nebulous manner at best, and now you're stooping to insults. Religions and Sky Guys go much further back in history than the individuals that you note. So you are saying that you absolutely reject all god concepts, spiritual realms and religions, right?
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4/26/2014 2:53:24 PM |
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prettypeas
Cadott, WI
50, joined Jul. 2010
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How am I supposed to know what you're saying about anything when all you have done is squawk, in a nebulous manner at best, and now you're stooping to insults. Religions and Sky Guys go much further back in history than the individuals that you note. So you are saying that you absolutely reject all god concepts, spiritual realms and religions, right?
It shouldn't matter what I think. Why do you care what I reject?
Yes, some very nifty stuff out there that quantum physics theories only touch. Start with basics of sacred geometry....some scientist in France even translated DNA to a focused meditation state with sacred geometry to send the dying electrical soul to .......Nirvana???? lol.
Math isn't a myth though.
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4/26/2014 3:00:21 PM |
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prettypeas
Cadott, WI
50, joined Jul. 2010
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Ohhh, yeah, you wanted to go further back though....how about the The Emerald Tablets of Thoth?
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4/26/2014 3:03:02 PM |
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mylegsarecold
Gainesville, FL
55, joined May. 2011
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I believe in the Math God, his digits are composed of numbers.
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4/26/2014 3:13:19 PM |
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prettypeas
Cadott, WI
50, joined Jul. 2010
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look this is math.....
sound frequencies and sand. Watch the higher frequencies.
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4/26/2014 3:23:46 PM |
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prettypeas
Cadott, WI
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4/26/2014 3:52:27 PM |
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cern_
Danville, KY
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It shouldn't matter what I think. Why do you care what I reject?
Yes, some very nifty stuff out there that quantum physics theories only touch. Start with basics of sacred geometry....some scientist in France even translated DNA to a focused meditation state with sacred geometry to send the dying electrical soul to .......Nirvana???? lol.
Math isn't a myth though.
What makes you think that I give a damn about what you think? I merely replied to posts and, yes, I'll admit to being curious as to your thinking and knowledge of science. What quantum theory (quantum mechanics) has given humankind is absolutely amazing, most recently a $10 million quantum computer. In 2012 we found the Higgs boson to add to the long and fascinating list of subatomic particles.
No, I don't recall reading or hearing about that French jackal who is posing as a "scientist." He/she probably thought, "Hey, I know a way to become famous and make some money. I think I'll write a book and promote myself because my ego and investments have dropped." Maybe the jerk is just crazy. Kind of reminds me of Deepak Chopra's garbage!
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4/26/2014 3:58:40 PM |
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prettypeas
Cadott, WI
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4/26/2014 4:00:21 PM |
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tazz_mania4
Morehead City, NC
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MYTH. Political official's and lawyer's NEVER lie.
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4/26/2014 4:44:16 PM |
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bluecougareyes
Chelan, WA
73, joined Nov. 2008
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Obamacare is for losers
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.... A REAL moron................... More Morons ...
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4/26/2014 4:55:35 PM |
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bruce_2014
Dothan, AL
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That there are thousands of Quality women or skanks on DH and you can always get one or the other anytime....
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4/26/2014 5:10:41 PM |
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inventtis2
Grand Rapids, MI
39, joined Nov. 2012
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The unemployment numbers are accurate. Lol.
Cub cadet mowers are good.
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4/26/2014 5:36:35 PM |
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anthony209rida
Morgan Hill, CA
41, joined Oct. 2013
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A potato will muffle the sound from a firearm tried it f**kin thing exploded all over me n seemed louder jus sayin
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4/26/2014 5:38:36 PM |
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inventtis2
Grand Rapids, MI
39, joined Nov. 2012
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A potato will muffle the sound from a firearm tried it f**kin thing exploded all over me n seemed louder jus sayin
Genius
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4/26/2014 6:42:48 PM |
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vanir
Victoria
Australia
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Obviously the literature that you've read is different than that I've read. And what does it matter, there never was a virgin birth of a "miracle man" or any other child in the days of primitive ignoramuses and there never was or will be a resurrection of anybody, and you know that.
My point was "the days of primitive ignoramuses" is a myth. They didn't write what modern cults assert, eg. the hebrew term 'satan' means public advocate, equivalent to the modern defence attorney, devil is a middle english derivative of a word originally used to translate hebrew scripture into greek by rabbi in the 1st century, the word they used meant divine messenger (damon) and it was mistranslated by arriving at english through greek then latin instead of independently and directly from hebrew (basically because it doesn't translate well into other languages, mistranslation is proliferant).
That's about linguistics and third party assumptions, not authorship intellects.
In other words a fundamental precept of pentacostal mediaeval and modern christianity is something which did not even exist at the time scriptures were originally written, the entire concept for devil/demons just didn't exist and was adopted in fact, from greco-roman paganism during the early christianisation period, it was a political consequence and not a historical reference. Where Jesus casts out a "demon" in the bible, the word originally written there in greek means actually divine agent, a translation of a hebrew word that means actually, angel or messenger or knightly warrior depending on context. Old hebrew is a very rudimentary written language, the main reason for mistranslation in other languages rather than the intelligence of authors. For the hebrews it was a simple political and legal system, not a fairy tale, it translates so badly into other languages that it is very easy to turn it into a fairy tale especially if your culture already uses fairy tales for its own politic, like the greek did.
In yet other words, modern pentacostals believe in things the authors of scripture would've considered ridiculous. What you're doing is looking at what modern cults claim, and then stating that's what their cultism reference claimed and it wasn't. It was claimed by third parties, their reference is third party, and without dedicated and qualified research nobody has any idea what the authors actually thought.
Intellectual capacity is not a linear progression through human history, it is a constant defined by brain structure which has been roughly a constant for 180,000 years. Meaning primitive modern humans were precisely as intelligent as you or any other human being and again, it is only arrogance which elicits people before you were dumber and you are smarter. It's like a god licence on delusional reality.
6000 years ago you could find a feller just as smart as Einstein, the historical record clearly proves this with independent mathematical and engineering accomplishments of extreme cognitive ability; and by the same token 6000 years ago you could find a feller just as dumb as a redneck hillbilly who thinks aliens have secretly taken over the Whitehouse because of the sound his toilet flush makes.
What would possess you to assume anyone with the same sized brain of any era is any less than any other of any other era? Why would you assume people physiologically identical have somehow physiologically evolved between each other with no physiological evidence to support the assertion?
Technological evolution has been linear throughout mankind's history. But the well preserved remains of the Alpine Iceman of 3500 years ago is physiologically identical to those of anyone who died of the same thing yesterday, why would there be any difference in his objective intellectual routines? If he was brought up by raving lunatics he probably believed in fairy-dragons, if he was educated in a roman city he probably thought mythology interpreted literally was infantile and ridiculous, but interpreted allegorically actually described working political and legal establishments, which is what educated scholars like those who authored ancient scriptures and academicans today, tend to understand.
You're judging one demographic by another demographic and calling it an evolutionary social statement. Yet both demographics existed then and now, they cohabitate.
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4/26/2014 9:24:03 PM |
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cern_
Danville, KY
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MYTH. Political official's and lawyer's NEVER lie.
You've got that right, man, that's an excellent myth!
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