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11/24/2015 7:38:53 PM Muslims in America  

followjesusonly
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Quote from jester0011:
god told the jews to kill people and nations who worshiped other religions in the past.


No He didn't, and you don't want to listen to Jesus, do you?

Saying and believing that God told anyone to kill anyone else is blasphemy against God.

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11/24/2015 7:51:17 PM Muslims in America  

jester0011
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read the book about moses and going to the promised land

11/24/2015 10:03:10 PM Muslims in America  

followjesusonly
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read the book about moses and going to the promised land

======================================

It doesn't matter.

11/25/2015 1:47:34 AM Muslims in America  

evritingisasm
Ardabil
Iran
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I am not Muslim, I like Christianity very very much, churches, Jesus, i just been born in a wrong place, i don't like Muslims too, and because most of america are Christians we can call it christian nation.

11/25/2015 7:50:45 AM Muslims in America  

nonstandard
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Quote from fitbarbie:
Bottom line: this is a Christian country. Always has been, always will be. Either accept that or get the f**k out. End of story.












Many of our founding fathers were freemasons . They wanted everyone to have the freedom to make their own choices , the same as they did .

11/25/2015 8:11:58 AM Muslims in America  
paulrxp
Miami, FL
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Quote from nonstandard:
Many of our founding fathers were freemasons . They wanted everyone to have the freedom to make their own choices , the same as they did .


You are correct, but any Christian that really knows their faith will know that the Freemasons are the enemy of the Gospels, and Christianity for that matter. The core of their doctrine is diametrically opposed to what Christianity believes and teaches. Freemasons want nothing less than the destruction of Christianity as well as Christianity s influence on societys social order.

11/25/2015 8:21:26 AM Muslims in America  

nonstandard
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Quote from paulrxp:
You are correct, but any Christian that really knows their faith will know that the Freemasons are the enemy of the Gospels, and Christianity for that matter. The core of their doctrine is diametrically opposed to what Christianity believes and teaches. Freemasons want nothing less than the destruction of Christianity as well as Christianity s influence on societys social order.


I agree .

11/25/2015 8:39:18 AM Muslims in America  

duchessa
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Quote from fitbarbie:
Bottom line: this is a Christian country. Always has been, always will be. Either accept that or get the f**k out. End of story.


FIND A WORD IN OUR CONSTITUTION THAT SAYS THIS IS A CHRISTIAN NATION...you won't

11/25/2015 8:40:39 AM Muslims in America  

duchessa
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Quote from evritingisasm:
I am not Muslim, I like Christianity very very much, churches, Jesus, i just been born in a wrong place, i don't like Muslims too, and because most of america are Christians we can call it christian nation.


It would be wise for you to check the statistics...instead of flying around.

11/25/2015 8:48:32 AM Muslims in America  

nonstandard
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We're animals , if the infant had the ability to rip its fathers face off , to get to the sweet milk of its mothers tit , it would do so , without any hesitation .

We're born as one thing , taught by a universe , to be something else .

Do we really care about what the universe teaches us , or are we just wolves , picking off sheep ?

11/25/2015 9:31:01 AM Muslims in America  
irishrose0906
Dublin, OH
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This is the problem just because it says it in the bible, does not mean it is the word of God. I can say God told me to kill my enemy's. But was it really God or my own ego? There are ways that may seem right too your mind. but instead will lead you away from God. If it doesn't come from a place of love, it is not of God.

11/25/2015 10:43:39 AM Muslims in America  

evritingisasm
Ardabil
Iran
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Quote from duchessa:
It would be wise for you to check the statistics...instead of flying around.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States

says 70 percent in america are Christians, and other websites even says more than 80 percent but it think they were older, this wikipedia link is new 2015

11/25/2015 11:29:20 AM Muslims in America  

followjesusonly
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Quote from irishrose0906:
This is the problem just because it says it in the bible, does not mean it is the word of God. I can say God told me to kill my enemy's. But was it really God or my own ego? There are ways that may seem right too your mind. but instead will lead you away from God. If it doesn't come from a place of love, it is not of God.




11/25/2015 3:42:19 PM Muslims in America  

duchessa
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Quote from evritingisasm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States

says 70 percent in america are Christians, and other websites even says more than 80 percent but it think they were older, this wikipedia link is new 2015


Are you sure it doesn't say that 70% of the world is Christian? And even if your statistics were correct, and 70% of the Americans profess said religion...the other 30% is equivalent to 110 million people that profess other religions and / or are Atheists. This number is too large to say that America is a Christian nation....specially when our Constitution doesn't declare any religion as the country's.

Dear, why do you think the Vatican selected a guy from Latin America as the present Pope? Because the Vatican knows people are leaving the Christian faith in hordes to join other religions or to embrace Atheism; the Vatican also knows that Brazil and Mexico are extremely Christian countries and through these two nations this institution hopes to recover / convince the world of the beauty of religion.

Be a little more suspicious.

11/26/2015 1:47:30 AM Muslims in America  

evritingisasm
Ardabil
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Quote from duchessa:
Are you sure it doesn't say that 70% of the world is Christian? And even if your statistics were correct, and 70% of the Americans profess said religion...the other 30% is equivalent to 110 million people that profess other religions and / or are Atheists. This number is too large to say that America is a Christian nation....specially when our Constitution doesn't declare any religion as the country's.

Dear, why do you think the Vatican selected a guy from Latin America as the present Pope? Because the Vatican knows people are leaving the Christian faith in hordes to join other religions or to embrace Atheism; the Vatican also knows that Brazil and Mexico are extremely Christian countries and through these two nations this institution hopes to recover / convince the world of the beauty of religion.

Be a little more suspicious.




just google religion percentage in united states and you will see it says more than 70 percent are Christians, so i am sure, and when in a country more than 50 percent of it has a specific religion, we can call it this countries religion is that, in this rule, but in Constitution rule you can call it it's not religion but we have two rules to decide and most ppl see if one country has more than 50 percent a religion they can call it like a christian nations, we can call America a christian country by this rule

11/26/2015 3:17:36 AM Muslims in America  

hdsavage77
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The definition of atheism is the lack of religion, therefore it can't be a religion. And the schools are non bias, not atheist. Anyone can pray to whichever of the over 5000 gods one believes in in school, but the school cannot force children to believe in any particular religion. Third, funny that you think this is a Christian country when the authors and signers of the constitution are all quoted in saying religion has no place in running of this country. Fact 4, there are already several million Muslims living in this country, but most every atrocity committed in the us is by Christians... Think about that one. Why don't you just stop pretending you aren't a bigot and racist, and just use you pointy hood as a profile pic.

Moron!

11/26/2015 3:39:48 AM Muslims in America  

evritingisasm
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and most of american celebration days, i don't know what you call it, like Christmas, valentine, new year, Easter, Halloween are christian thing, America is christian nation that's why ppl celebrating those days Iran is not christian nation that's why ppl in Iran don't celebrate those days

most names in America are christian names, and when i saw american movies almost in all movies they say name of God and Jesus, because of these reasons America can be called a christian nation

11/26/2015 6:11:03 AM Muslims in America  

duchessa
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Quote from evritingisasm:
and you will see it says more than 70 percent are Christians, so i am sure, and when in a country more than 50 percent of it has a specific religion, we can call it this countries religion


The fact people such as yourself grasp at anything to satisfy a silly agenda it doesn't mean is the truth.
America is not a Christian nation neither the 10 commandments are Christian principles. I am sure clarencec, older than dirt and/or other member a lot more knowledgeable on this subject can explain it to you.. i don't waste my time in this case.

11/26/2015 6:12:56 AM Muslims in America  

duchessa
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Quote from hdsavage77:
The definition of atheism is the lack of religion, therefore it can't be a religion. And the schools are non bias, not atheist. Anyone can pray to whichever of the over 5000 gods one believes in in school, but the school cannot force children to believe in any particular religion. Third, funny that you think this is a Christian country when the authors and signers of the constitution are all quoted in saying religion has no place in running of this country. Fact 4, there are already several million Muslims living in this country, but most every atrocity committed in the us is by Christians... Think about that one. Why don't you just stop pretending you aren't a bigot and racist, and just use you pointy hood as a profile pic.

Moron!




11/26/2015 6:14:54 AM Muslims in America  

duchessa
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evritingisasm

New Year is self explanatory and has nothing to do with Christianity

Halloween is a pagan holiday

11/26/2015 6:16:26 AM Muslims in America  

duchessa
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Quote from evritingisasm:

most names in America are christian names, and when i saw american movies almost in all movies they say name of God and Jesus, because of these reasons America can be called a christian nation


Ok, my child, if to believe the above makes you feel better...then do so...but i really hope you didn't / wont reproduce.

11/26/2015 6:55:47 AM Muslims in America  
Yasureoktoo
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Quote from evritingisasm:

most names in America are christian names, and when i saw american movies almost in all movies they say name of God and Jesus, because of these reasons America can be called a christian nation


Even when Christianity was more popular, most names were Jewish.

11/26/2015 7:37:47 AM Muslims in America  

duchessa
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
Even when Christianity was more popular, most names were Jewish.


Some people want to convince themselves they have the truth; I feel sorry for them...and SORRIER for mankind.

11/26/2015 8:27:25 AM Muslims in America  
paulrxp
Miami, FL
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Quote from hdsavage77:
The definition of atheism is the lack of religion, therefore it can't be a religion. And the schools are non bias, not atheist....


The “lack of religion” is not why Atheism cannot be considered a religion.

Atheism - the doctrine or belief that there is no God.

Religion - a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe.

An atheist forms beliefs and opinions about God being non-existent . The definition of Religion didn’t even need to use the word “God” , because religion isn’t just about God, or no GOd it’s about beliefs formed as well.

The formation and extent of these beliefs are where it can(but not always) fall under the category of being a Religion. Doesn't matter if it's God, the Sun God, 3000 Gods or Satan
It is a the set of formulated beliefs that makes theism and atheism a subset of Religion, even if they are opposing belief systems.



[Edited 11/26/2015 8:29:26 AM ]

11/26/2015 9:54:15 AM Muslims in America  

urealysucklol
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Quote from evritingisasm:
and most of american celebration days, i don't know what you call it, like Christmas, valentine, new year, Easter, Halloween are christian thing, America is christian nation that's why ppl celebrating those days Iran is not christian nation that's why ppl in Iran don't celebrate those days

most names in America are christian names, and when i saw american movies almost in all movies they say name of God and Jesus, because of these reasons America can be called a christian nation

America is not a cristian nation

All religions of the world are allowed to be practiced here.

11/26/2015 2:47:55 PM Muslims in America  
Yasureoktoo
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And some do not work and play well with others.

12/3/2015 9:11:11 AM Muslims in America  

nonstandard
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Quote from irishrose0906:
This is the problem just because it says it in the bible, does not mean it is the word of God. I can say God told me to kill my enemy's. But was it really God or my own ego? There are ways that may seem right too your mind. but instead will lead you away from God. If it doesn't come from a place of love, it is not of God.


We burned the wrong books , we should've burned the bible , and the koran . These are the works that inspire genocide .

12/3/2015 9:20:25 AM Muslims in America  

nonstandard
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If they cant have it , then nobody can ...

"An eye for an eye , makes the whole world blind ." ~ Gandhi

12/7/2015 12:56:19 PM Muslims in America  
mrhankchinaski
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Quote from sail_dancer:


This is NOT a christian nation!

You are just another bigoted ignorant christian nutcase letting off steam.

Peace


I agree with you that this is not a christian nation.

Even when it comes to the founding fathers, their christianity was as dubious as mine.

But when it comes to these muslims Im just not sure we are handleing it right.

These last two scumbags had a life, good jobs, a nice townhouse, a litle baby, and look at what they did.

At this point I dont think we can trust any of them.

This my friend is war.

To me there are no good trustworthy muslims.

They are all suspects.

12/7/2015 1:02:31 PM Muslims in America  
clarence2
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.
Quote from mrhankchinaski:
You'd have to sayTo me there are no good trustworthy muslims.

They are all suspects.

To be fair, you'd have to say the same about Americans in general, given that there has been another 355 mass killings this year in the U.S. that didn't involve Muslims.



[Edited 12/7/2015 1:03:19 PM ]

12/7/2015 1:12:05 PM Muslims in America  
Yasureoktoo
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On Wednesday, a Washington Post article announced that “The San Bernardino shooting is the second mass shooting today and the 355th this year.” Vox, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow, this newspaper and others reported similar statistics. Grim details from the church in Charleston, a college classroom in Oregon and a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado are still fresh, but you could be forgiven for wondering how you missed more than 300 other such attacks in 2015.






At Mother Jones, where I work as an editor, we have compiled an in-depth, open-source database covering more than three decades of public mass shootings. By our measure, there have been four “mass shootings” this year, including the one in San Bernardino, and at least 73 such attacks since 1982.


Editorial: Tough Talk and a Cowardly Vote on TerrorismDEC. 4, 2015


American Muslims are a strong bulwark against Islamic extremism. Last month, a group of demonstrators gathered in New York to condemn the Islamic State's interpretation of Islam and the terrorist acts carried out by them.

Op-Ed Contributor: Don’t Make San Bernardino a Victory for ISISDEC. 3, 2015

Room for Debate: Does Motive Matter in Mass Shootings?DEC. 3, 2015


What explains the vastly different count? The answer is that there is no official definition for “mass shooting.” Almost all of the gun crimes behind the much larger statistic are less lethal and bear little relevance to the type of public mass murder we have just witnessed again. Including them in the same breath suggests that a 1 a.m. gang fight in a Sacramento restaurant, in which two were killed and two injured, is the same kind of event as a deranged man walking into a community college classroom and massacring nine and injuring nine others. Or that a late-night shooting on a street in Savannah, Ga., yesterday that injured three and killed one is in the same category as the madness that just played out in Southern California.

While all the victims are important, conflating those many other crimes with indiscriminate slaughter in public venues obscures our understanding of this complicated and growing problem. Everyone is desperate to know why these attacks happen and how we might stop them — and we can’t know, unless we collect and focus on useful data that filter out the noise.

For at least the past decade, the F.B.I. regarded a mass shooting as a single attack in which four or more victims were killed. (In 2013, a mandate from President Obama for further study of the problem lowered that threshold to three victims killed.) When we began compiling our database in 2012, we used that criteria of four or more killed in public attacks, but excluded mass murders that stemmed from robbery, gang violence or domestic abuse in private homes. Our goal with this relatively narrow set of parameters was to better understand the seemingly indiscriminate attacks that have increased in recent years, whether in movie theaters, elementary schools or office parks.

The statistics now being highlighted in the news come primarily from shootingtracker.com, a website built by members of a Reddit forum supporting gun control called GunsAreCool. That site aggregates news stories about shooting incidents — of any kind — in which four or more people are reported to have been either injured or killed.

It’s not clear why the Redditors use this much broader criteria. The founder of the “shooting tracker” project, who currently goes by the handle “Billy Speed,” told me it was his choice: “Three years ago I decided, all by myself, to change the United States’ definition of mass shooting.” It’s also not clear how many of those stories — many of them from local outlets, including scant detail — are accurate.

There is value in collecting those stories as a blunt measure of gun violence involving multiple victims. But as those numbers gain traction in the news media, they distort our understanding. According to our research at Mother Jones — subsequently corroborated by the F.B.I. — the more narrowly defined mass shootings have grown more frequent, and overwhelmingly involve legally obtained firearms. Experts in the emerging field of threat assessment believe that this is a unique phenomenon that must be understood on its own.

One thing we all need is better data. Since 1996, Congress and the gun lobby have prevented the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention from conducting comprehensive research into gun violence. In the wake of the latest horror, and the confusion that followed, will that finally change?

12/7/2015 1:34:34 PM Muslims in America  
mrhankchinaski
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Quote from clarence2:
.
Quote from mrhankchinaski:
You'd have to sayTo me there are no good trustworthy muslims.

They are all suspects.

To be fair, you'd have to say the same about Americans in general, given that there has been another 355 mass killings this year in the U.S. that didn't involve Muslims.


Somehow those dont bother me as much clarence.

I dont know much about those, but you're saying they are "americans".

We have always been a violent country with a deeply engrained gun culture.

We have it written into our founding documents as a basic right for pete sack.

So what we do to eachother we have to accept.

But this is a foreign element.

Something from abroad with the intentions of toppling and destabilizing our way of life.

We dont have to put up with that shit.

F**k these muslim bastards.



[Edited 12/7/2015 1:35:33 PM ]

12/11/2015 5:02:16 PM Muslims in America  
nutsinsuits
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since when America was a Christian nation???? this is a fool

3/31/2016 7:01:51 PM Muslims in America  
cupocheer
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Do you mean Moslems?

3/31/2016 7:02:46 PM Muslims in America  
cupocheer
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Those of Islamic faith?

3/31/2016 7:03:31 PM Muslims in America  
cupocheer
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Muslim is cloth.

3/31/2016 7:16:22 PM Muslims in America  
Yasureoktoo
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You're an idiot.

America was always a predominately Christian nation, until just recently.

4/7/2016 10:52:28 PM Muslims in America  
cupocheer
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[Edited 4/7/2016 10:53:16 PM ]

4/8/2016 12:01:04 AM Muslims in America  

iyamwutiyam
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Actually America was always Native American spirituality of various tribes worshiping animal spirits, the great white spirit, manitou, etc. Of course when Christians arrived they massacred people who were here for thousands of years.



[Edited 4/8/2016 12:01:35 AM ]

4/8/2016 8:36:02 AM Muslims in America  

ludlowlowell
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MOHAMMED: Smite the non-believer, wherever he is to be found.

JESUS: Love your enemies. Do good to those who persecute you.

4/8/2016 1:46:52 PM Muslims in America  

followjesusonly
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
MOHAMMED: Smite the non-believer, wherever he is to be found.

JESUS: Love your enemies. Do good to those who persecute you.


Catholic church: Torture and burn at the stake any heretics who refuse to believe as we do.

4/8/2016 1:53:24 PM Muslims in America  

ludlowlowell
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The Catholic Church does not do this any more, and never did do it, unless people taught heresy publicly.

4/8/2016 3:00:01 PM Muslims in America  

followjesusonly
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
The Catholic Church does not do this any more, and never did do it, unless people taught heresy publicly.


Catholic church: Torture and burn at the stake anyone who publicly teaches anything that we don't approve of and who refuses to believe what we tell them to believe.

4/8/2016 3:08:40 PM Muslims in America  
cupocheer
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Quote from iyamwutiyam:
Actually America was always Native American spirituality of various tribes worshiping animal spirits, the great white spirit, manitou, etc. Of course when Christians arrived they massacred people who were here for thousands of years.




Were all Canadians born in Denmark? That question is as silly as your post.

Not all Native Americans were of the Algonquin Nation (I just happen to be descended from the AN.)

Native Americans worshiped God (the Great Spirit) Sasha Manitou

There is also recognition of:

(Jesus) The Good Spirit -- Aashaa Manitou

(Satan) The Bad Spirit -- Otshee Manitou

FAIL

Go back to CEnP and try to ply your princely trade there, please.


Native Americans never worshiped animals -- they respected them and offered them back to God in sacrifice for God's giving them other things needed to sustain life.



[Edited 4/8/2016 3:10:19 PM ]

4/8/2016 6:02:58 PM Muslims in America  
Yasureoktoo
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Quote from followjesusonly:
Catholic church: Torture and burn at the stake any heretics who refuse to believe as we do.


The Church did that, not the religion.

4/8/2016 6:13:38 PM Muslims in America  

iyamwutiyam
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Quote from cupocheer:
....
Native Americans never worshiped animals -- ......



You're as stupid as Lud. NA worshiped animals, all of nature and had no concept of owning land. You're an ignoramus and not a credible source of information about a people who were ultimately poisoned and destroyed by Christians.

Christians worship an animal too. A bird. In the trinity a type of pigeon is what impregnates Mary.

4/8/2016 6:22:06 PM Muslims in America  

followjesusonly
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
The Church did that, not the religion.


The Catholic church is the Catholic religion.

4/8/2016 6:43:17 PM Muslims in America  
Yasureoktoo
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Quote from followjesusonly:
The Catholic church is the Catholic religion.


and they pretend it is Christian.

4/12/2016 1:25:51 AM Muslims in America  

stregaleonora
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Quote from sail_dancer:


This is NOT a christian nation!

You are just another bigoted ignorant christian nutcase letting off steam.

Peace


I am an atheist and I am disgusted by muslims too.

They have as role model a son of a b*tch called mohammed who says is ok to kill women and rape children?

But please shut up you idiot!

4/12/2016 1:31:34 AM Muslims in America  

stregaleonora
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Quote from nonstandard:
Many of our founding fathers were freemasons . They wanted everyone to have the freedom to make their own choices , the same as they did .


Anyway religions which promote violence or attitudes in contraddiction with the law of the United States are not acceptable.

4/12/2016 9:14:48 AM Muslims in America  

nonstandard
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Quote from stregaleonora:
Anyway religions which promote violence or attitudes in contraddiction with the law of the United States are not acceptable.


We can twist , and distort , the declaration of independence . We shouldn't be proud , we should be ashamed .

Its the same old thing , whether terrorists , redskins , or blacks . We have this queer identity crisis , that makes us think we're better than everyone else .

4/12/2016 9:20:18 AM Muslims in America  

nonstandard
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Quote from nonstandard:
We can twist , and distort , the declaration of independence . We shouldn't be proud , we should be ashamed .

Its the same old thing , whether terrorists , redskins , or blacks . We have this queer identity crisis , that makes us think we're better than everyone else .


Everybody thinks their right , and everybody else is wrong .

Maybe if everybody was wrong , we could all get along .

4/12/2016 9:33:15 AM Muslims in America  

nonstandard
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Being more of a beast , isn't going to make anyone less of a beast .

4/12/2016 4:09:36 PM Muslims in America  

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Quote from nonstandard:
We can twist , and distort , the declaration of independence . We shouldn't be proud , we should be ashamed .

Its the same old thing , whether terrorists , redskins , or blacks . We have this queer identity crisis , that makes us think we're better than everyone else .


I am sorry lady you have a twisted way of thinking:

No matter the race or the color but who treats others with compassion and respect is surely BETTER than who steals, rapes and kills.


No matter the culture they belong to: people who do those things is inferiour to people who do not.



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4/12/2016 4:14:10 PM Muslims in America  
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4/12/2016 5:47:31 PM Muslims in America  

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"Love thy neighbor. Do good to those who persecute you."

--Jesus

"Smite the non-believer wherever he is to be found."

--Mohammed

4/12/2016 5:54:52 PM Muslims in America  

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Quote from ludlowlowell:
"Love thy neighbor. Do good to those who persecute you."

--Jesus

"Smite the non-believer wherever he is to be found."

--Mohammed


Luke 19:27:
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Deuteronomy 17:
2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

Matthew 10:34:
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

4/12/2016 6:57:44 PM Muslims in America  

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Luke 19:27 refers to what will happen on Judgment Day. Matthew 10:34 refers to the violence that will be done against Christ's followers. Neither instructs the Christian faithful to kill non-Christians---Christianity is all about love and forgiveness. All those Old Testament passages were abrogated when Jesus came.

Muslims want to convert by sword and bomb. Christians want to convert by love, persuasion, and missionaries.



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4/12/2016 7:14:56 PM Muslims in America  
Yasureoktoo
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Quote from olderthandirt20
Luke 19:27:
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Deuteronomy 17:
2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

Matthew 10:34:
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

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Now I am no fan of Christianity, but I do the same with Islam, which I hate with a passion, Where I see people misquote verses all the time.


A serious problem here, and it seems the same people repeat it all the time, is that,

The first one you posted is a parable

The second is Jewish, not Christian, 3000 years old, and not even the Jews follow much of the primitive text, they evolved, and modified the religion to the times.

The third has a lot of controversy as to it's real meaning.

One can look at the teachings of Jesus, and see the meaning people use here is completely out of character, from the person spoken of in the text, over and over.
This is much different with Muhammed for example, where the entire text is of a murdering piece of pig shit. there is no question as to the meaning of the text.

Even if we used the logic you are implying, where we have to throw out all 4 books of the teachings of Jesus, pretending that this one verse overrules everything else written, and they are all wrong.
It would make much more sense to say this one verse is obviously a mistake, either in writing, in translation, in completion, or any of the many, many, possible explanations for it's existence.

The point here is that we have a primitive people, thousands of years ago, writing in the ways of the times, which were much different than they are today.

Another point is that you really have to look very deep into the Christian religion to find evil, It is generally a pretty good religion for people dependent on "sky daddy's".

4/12/2016 7:56:11 PM Muslims in America  

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You're as stupid as Lud. NA worshiped animals, all of nature and had no concept of owning land. You're an ignoramus and not a credible source of information about a people who were ultimately poisoned and destroyed by Christians.

Christians worship an animal too. A bird. In the trinity a type of pigeon is what impregnates Mary.


Rumor is, she is a he