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bigd9832
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There is no "queen ship"
Not even a row-boat.
CLV Jn 10:34 Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law, that `I say you are gods'?
35 If He said those were gods, to whom the word of God came (and the scripture can not be annulled),
The Catholic church is apostate.
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followjesusonly
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There are 700,000 "creator sons", right? That's 700,000 pagan gods.
No, there are no creator sons in the catholic church, and no, there are no gods in The Urantia Book.
I know you don't love God, Jesus says so, but you should stop your lying and calumny as pope Francis says, just in case there is still a chance you might be saved even in your disobedience to God. The only reason you do it is to protect your false certainties, as pope Francis also said. He is a wise man.
"He is a wise man who regards all parts from the point of view of the whole." -The Urantia Book 131:8.4
Pope Francis:
"We Catholics have some — and not some, many — who believe they possess the absolute truth and go ahead dirtying the other with calumny, with disinformation, and doing evil. They do evil. I say this because it is my Church." [The pope] further added that "fundamentalism is more idolatry than actual religion, warning that 'ideas and false certainties' can take the place of faith, love, and God."
The pope is talking about you and OCD people like you. He knows. And that's why you don't like him. He's on to you.
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prophetic774
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WHAT SHOULD BORN FROM ABOVE CHRISTIANS DO WHEN THEY SIN???
I John 1:8,10; 2:1,2: If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar and His Word has no place in our lives. My dear children, I write this to you that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have One who speaks to the Father in our defense--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for ours sins!!
Matthew 6:6,9-13: Jesus commands, "This then is how you should pray: "Our **FATHER IN HEAVEN**, hallowed by Your name, your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is I heaven. Give us today {PRAY DAILY!} our daily bread." Luke 10:2,4 adds: Jesus says, "**FATHER**... Forgive us our sins as we forgive everyone who sins against us!!"
  
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kb2222
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Why do you who professed to be Christians run and hide to evade answering this question?
Louie, do you really believe Jesus would order man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all these reasons?
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
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ludlowlowell
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The pope thinks the Catholic Church is his Church. He forgets that it is the Lord's Church. This attitude is making him a very bad pope, the worst one since Alexander VI.
"I say this because it is my Church", he says. He also says that those who have absute certainties don't have faith. Of course just the opposite is true.
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bigd9832
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Quote from ludlowlowell... The pope thinks the Catholic Church is his Church. He forgets that it is the Lord's Church. This attitude is making him a very bad pope, the worst one since Alexander VI.
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I thought you said the "pope" was infallible.
How can he be a bad "pope" if he is never wrong?
The Catholic church is corrupt.
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ludlowlowell
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The infallibity of the pope does not mean that the pope can do no wrong. It means that the pope, when speaking on the subject of faith or morals, and meaning to bind the Church, cannot make an error. Only three ingallible statements were made by popes in the entire twentieth century, and none so far this century.
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bigd9832
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But ludlow...
You are complaining about his policies on your church.
It makes no sense that he is turning this "infallibility" on and off. Like a light switch.
The Catholic church lies
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cupocheer
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LUD, the Roman Catholic pope is not God.
God is God. The Roman Catholic Church has set itself up to feel the full wrath of God.
Woe be unto the hypocrites... said Jesus/God.
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ludlowlowell
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Cupocheer, did you know that without the Catholic Church there would be no Bible today?
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cupocheer
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LUD, did you know that at any point in history God led someone into recording biblical knowledge and would, I am almost positive, have seen that the Torah, Qu'ran, and Bible were made available for humanity whether there ever existed a Catholic Church, or not.
Don't you think so, too?
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prophetic774
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Quote from tnteacher101:
Prop: One thing that you don't seem to realize is that all people that live on this Earth in the flesh bodies have been born from above.... So, when the Bible says we must be born again (from above) that doesn't mean we have already been saved from hell/hades it only means that our spirits have been born of woman into flesh bodies to live on this Earth.
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BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY??
John 3:3: Jesus says, I tell you the Truth, no one can see the Kingdom of God **UNLESS HE IS BORN AGAIN!!"
John 1:12,13: To all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, he gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, **NOR OF A HUMAN DECISION** or a husband's will but, **BORN OF GOD**!!
I Peter 1:23,24: For you have been **BORN AGAIN**..through the living and enduring **WORD OF GOD**. For, all men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers an the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**!!
John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "All that the Father gives to Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away...And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM!!"
And so no one can enter the Kingdom of God unless he is born again and born of God the Father in Heaven above!! And when we are born again by God the Father above He draws us and enables us to believe by the living Word of God!!!
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kb2222
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Prophetic774, why do you never quote this?
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:20
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shylywilling
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Cupocheer, did you know that without the Catholic Church there would be no Bible today?
Oh lud, where is your ability to reason?
The Vatican was born from the treacherous murder of Jesus and the cunning hijacking of the Christian narrative by practitioners of "eating the forbidden fruit", private property capitalists. The capitalist institution is quite possibly the oldest in existence today and achieved that by cunning survival techniques.
Most likely the distorted Christian biblical narrative that has provided the veil for the Vatican/one percent wealthiest private property capitalists to perpetually maintain the enslavement of 90 percent or more of the population, has also prolonged our agony and inevitable birth as a kingdom of one civil interest.
We evolve to one from one and we must participate in our birth as one infant of LORD God.
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prophetic774
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TNT said:
Prophetic774, why do you never quote this?
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:20
Actually TNT you left out a very interesting phrase in this Scripture which is "And the teachers of the law." And so Matthew 5:20 should read: Jesus says, "For I tell you unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and **THE TEACHERS OF THE LAW**{Like TNT!}, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven!!"
And the only way that your righteousness will surpass the **TEACHERS OF THE LAW** like TNT is that you are born of God above!!!
John 3:3: Jesus says, I tell you the Truth, no one can see the Kingdom of God **UNLESS HE IS BORN AGAIN!!"
John 1:12,13: To all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, he gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, **NOR OF A HUMAN DECISION** or a husband's will but, **BORN OF GOD**!!
I Peter 1:23,24: For you have been **BORN AGAIN**..through the living and enduring **WORD OF GOD**. For, all men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers an the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**!!
John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "All that the Father gives to Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away...And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM!!"
And so no one can enter the Kingdom of God unless he is born again and born of God the Father in Heaven above!! And when we are born again by God the Father above He draws us and enables us to believe by the living Word of God!!!
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kb2222
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Prophetic from behind his block says:
TNT said:
Prophetic774, why do you never quote this?
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:20
Actually TNT you left out a very interesting phrase in this Scripture which is "And the teachers of the law." And so Matthew 5:20 should read: Jesus says, "For I tell you unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and **THE TEACHERS OF THE LAW**{Like TNT!}, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven!!"
Prophetic are you sick or blind? TNT didn't post that I did and you are a lying False Teacher as I quoted Matthew 5:20 KJV exactly as it appears. Why are you lying and evading answering my question, prophetic?
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brashdoc
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Quote from brashdoc... Oh, that my words were recorded, that they were written on a scroll, that they were inscribed with an iron tool on lead, or engraved in rock forever!
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Kinda self serving, Don't you think? Oh that my words were recorded? You sound like a drama queen Hollywood actress.
There is so much I can do with these statements in humor. Sometimes it can be a lot of fun on here when people seek to belittle and demean and act in a deliberate condescending manner, full of pride against others. Those of the flesh TEAR others down and ridicule them; those walking in the Spirit build others up in their most holy faith.
So many humorous things can be done here, LOL.
#1 'The shut up or put up, prove it' drama king with a name like BIG.....D (talk about drama!! not D but BIG D!) and wants Scripture--deliberately eisogetes part of the passage I quoted from one of the most righteous men in history, taking it totally out of context and seeks to ridicule me rather than deal with the content of what I wrote. the BIG one demanding scholarly answers resorts to an ILLOGICAL FALLACY: an ad hominem.
Ad Hominem: attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his position or statement. An ad hominem argument is one that relies on personal attacks rather than reason or substance.
NOW THAT is funny...yet hypocritical. Since he likes to attack the Catholic church (and by the way, when BigD was first on here, his preference in his profile for religion said: Catholic. Then in another post he said that he meant 'catholic' (little c). Talk about the BIG kettle calling another kettle black! Now there are some things I might agree with BigD on in terms of Roman Catholic doctrine that I differ with (as Lud and I have talked about in the past) but it can be discussed in a better manner.
So much more I can do with this but suffice to stop at just two: BigD must be losing his eyesight or seeing things. I am a male not a female. Now he is MIXING HIS METAPHORS and seeing me as a female impersonator. What seemed to be a ridiculing remark turns out to be an embarrassing one.
Kinda takes away from the awesome topic of Jesus Coming Again, a Christian's most BLESSED HOPE! Back on topic, Lud.
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ludlowlowell
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"Christ has died. Christ is risen. Christ will come again."
--from the Catholic Mass
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kb2222
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You so-called Christians are morally and spiritually lost/dead to believe/teach Jesus would order man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those OT reasons or for any reason for that matter. What the hell is wrong with you that you pretend not to know it is inhumane wickedness to stone and burn people to death at the stake? Are you so spiritually blind that you cannot see that you blaspheme God/Jesus with your OT beliefs?
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followjesusonly
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"Christ has died. Christ is risen. Christ will come again."
--from the Catholic Mass
Is that the actual spell, or is that something that is said after the wizard casts the spell?
What are the actual words to the spell, do you know?
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bigd9832
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Quote from brashdoc... Ad Hominem: attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his position or statement.
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I didn't see any "position or statement." Just alot of unconnected ramblings. Kinda like he is doing now.
Drama queen.
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brashdoc
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Quote from brashdoc... Ad Hominem: attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his position or statement.
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I didn't see any "position or statement." Just alot of unconnected ramblings. Kinda like he is doing now. Drama queen.
This is getting even funnier.I don't have to even hand BigD a shovel. He already has one and is digging the hole even deeper to bury and embarrass himself.
ANYONE looking at my post on Jesus is coming again can follow the Scripture after Scripture referring to Christ's coming return. It is on topic, showing my position from Scripture that Christ is indeed coming again and that Who is coming is none other than God Himself, the eternal King coming to establish His kingdom on earth, the Redeemer whose shed blood can purge us repentant sinners from our sins. It is actually very relevant and easy to follow.
And now BigD is living under delusions, still calling a male a drama queen. This is getting more humorous by the second. We are going to have to call him the BIG Adhominem king who when someone presents a relevant, logical on topic statement or position, all he can do is present logical fallacy after logical fallacy, continuing what he does best since he has been here, attacking others and belittling them. Well this funny daytime soap opera 'As The BigD World Turns' has now come to an end for me on this thread. It has been a good laugh but on to more relevant Scriptural positions and logical statements with substance.
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bigd9832
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Easily amused.
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louie6332
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Lud, you say (pg 11): “What is paganism? Paganism is the belief in more than one God. Catholics, as well as Eastern Orthodox, Protestants, Jews, and Muslims, believe in only one God, so by definition they aren't pagans.”
No, “Paganism” is not “belief in more than one God, you are describing “polytheism”, not “paganism”.
“Paganism”, by fundamentally and by definition, is the worship of creatures rather than the Creator, whether it be the sun or moon or earth or demons (fallen angels) or dead relatives or oneself.
None of the sects you listed (Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Protestants, Jews, and Muslims) are Pagans, except for the Muslims. Mohammed and his Father were Pagans. And Muslims worship the demon Allah, who is “Alah”, the ancient Babylonian of god of Destruction, spoken of in the ancient Babylonian tablets (this was discovered by an archeologist going through the Babylonian ruins in the twentieth century). Mohammedanism is, therefore, a mono-theistic Pagan religion.
Christians and Jews are strictly forbidden by God the Father, the Creator, to worship anyone but him, the Creator: “I am the Lord thy God who brought thy out of the land lf Egypt, I am a jealous God, and I will have NO other gods before me!” If you know who God is, you are required to submit yourself to him, your salvation depends on it. If you do not know, but you avoid serious sin and serve God the best you know how in your ignorance, you are judged accordingly.
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kb2222
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Why don't you answer my question, Louie? Do you believe Jesus would order man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for these reasons?
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
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prophetic774
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Now TNT continually claims that the 12 Apostles taught that we are saved by obeying the OT laws???
BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY THAT THE APOSTLES TAUGHT???
The Apostle Peter wrote in I Peter 1:17-19: For you know it was not with perishable things such as silver and gold that you were **REDEEMED** from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, but with the **PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST**, a Lamb without blemish or defect!!
The Apostle John was inspired by God to write in Revelation 5:9: "You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals , because You were slain and **WITH YOUR BLOOD** you purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation!!"
The Apostle John was also inspired by God to write Revelation 1:5: "From Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness and ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and has freed us from our sins **BY HIS BLOOD**!!"
And so the Apostles Peter and John both confirmed that we are **REDEEMED** and **FREED FROM OUR SINS** by the **PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST**!
The Apostle Matthew was inspired by God to write in Matthew 5:20: Jesus says, " For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the **TEACHERS OF THE LAW** {Like TNT} you will certainly ***NOT*** enter the Kingdom of Heaven!"
The Apostle John wrote John 3:3: Jesus says, I tell you the Truth, no one can see the Kingdom of God **UNLESS HE IS BORN AGAIN!!"
The Apostle John wrote John 1:12,13: To all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, he gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, **NOR OF A HUMAN DECISION** or a husband's will but, **BORN OF GOD**!!
The Apostle Peter wrote I Peter 1:23,24: For you have been **BORN AGAIN**..through the living and enduring **WORD OF GOD**. For, all men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers an the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**!!
The Apostle John wrote John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "All that the Father gives to Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away...And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM!!"
And so the Apostles absolutely confirmed that no one can enter the Kingdom of God unless he is born again and born of God the Father in Heaven above!! And when we are born again by God the Father above He draws us and enables us to believe by the living Word of God!!!
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Why don't you answer my question, Prophetic? Do you believe Jesus would order man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for these reasons?
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
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louie6332
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Is Jesus coming again? Yes.
The Period of Trial of the Apocalypse, which began about the beginning of the twentieth century, is approximately a century granted to Satan to try all men on earth and to try to destroy the Church (God the Father granted this request of Satan in order to separate the sheep from the goats, the chaff from the wheat), will consist of two great worldwide revolutions with an interim of world peace lasting thirty to thirty four years separating them. We are in the midst of the first worldwide revolution now. It will climax with the Great Chastisement of God and its Third World War, which will be waged by Russia and her Marxist and Muslims allies from around the world against Israel, the Christian nations of the West, and the Church, a war that is now near at hand. Israel will fall, and then Europe and finally America will be invaded, overcome, and virtually depopulated, their cities destroyed, which will mark the end of the American Republic. This first world revolution will be put down by the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Queen of Heaven, who hath received from God from the time of the Angelic Revolt, the power and the mission of crushing the head of Satan, the Ancient Serpent, will, at God’s command, return at the head of the Armies of Heaven to put it down. She will return at the head of the Armies of Heaven to crush the head of Satan, the Ancient Serpent, and restore all things in Christ.
She will raise up the Great Monarch (King Henry of France)who will, with the help of the Armies of Heaven,overthrow the Masonic republics, restore the Catholic Monarchies, and reestablish the Roman Empire (the Third Beast of Daniel), becoming its emperor.
And she will raise up the Great Pope, who will raise up the Roman Catholic Church from its grave, overthrow the Revolution of the Second Vatican Council, and restore the Traditional Catholic Mass and Sacraments, prayers, and devotions. The Great Pope will uproot all plantings not put down by the Heavenly Father and re-evangelize the whole world and within twenty years announce the conversion of the whole world to the Resurrected and Renewed Roman Catholic Church, except for the Jews that are reserved for the End Time. Then there will be one shepherd and one flock, all worshiping God in the Traditional Mass. The Great Pope will consecrated Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Russia will be converted, and God will grant a period of peace to the world (promised by Our Lady of Fatima, if the Pope would do this)
After this period of world peace (lasting thirty to thirty-four years), the Antichrist will rise and lead the second and last great worldwide revolution of the Apocalypse. (It was foreordained that Satan must rule in full before the Return of Christ). (Note: Biblical prophecy, which is prophecy given by God to the Jews concerning them and their nation, is very oblique and obscure until the rise of the Antichrist, then it become very detailed, so with few exceptions, for details of the first worldwide revelation of the Period of Trial of the Apocalypse, you have to go to Catholic and national prophecy for that). At the death of the Great Monarch and the Great Pope, the peace will break down and the Antichrist will rise to power first in Turkey, then conquer towards the East. (As he begins his rise to power, ten years before the end, Ireland will sink beneath the sea and will be no more, so that the Irish will not have to suffer the Reign of Terror of the Antichrist and his bloody persecution, which will be the last and greatest persecution of the Church, during which the cup of the blood of the martyrs will be filled to the rim). When he conquers Iraq, he will rebuild the ancient city of Babylon and reestablish the Babylonian Empire, becoming its King. When people see it, they will be amazed, for it existed one, exists no more, but will exist again, the Seven Headed Beast rising like a legend from the eerie fog of the mythical past (this is the fourth beast of Daniel, a reestablished Babylonian Empire).
The Israelites, being under the rule of the reestablished Roman Empire and wanting to be free of its rule) will declare the Antichrist their king, and he will refurbish Jerusalem and rebuild the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, and the Jews will once again offer up their animal and cereal offerings in it. The West will not recognize him as the Antichrist, however, until he seats himself in the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem and declares himself to be God and the promised Jewish Messiah, and that Jesus Christ was an imposter. Then the West will immediately mobilize for war against him, and a Ten Nation Confederacy will form and mobilize with him against the West, which will be the beginning of the Fourth World War, a war fought not only with armaments but with witchcraft.
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louie6332
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Anyway, moving on, this second great worldwide revolution of the Period of Trial of the Apocalypse will climax with The Great Tribulation and its Fourth World War, which will be waged by the Antichrist, King of the reestablished Babylonian Empire, and the Ten Nation Confederacy that allies with him just before the Fourth World War, and its Reign of Terror. This will be a period of trouble such as the world has never known. From the beginning of the rise of the Antichrist to the End will be ten years, and from the end of the Fourth World War and the beginning of the Reign of Terror and its great persecution will be three and a half years.
Towards the end of the Reign of Terror, Jesus Christ will return at the head of the Armies of Heaven to put down this second great worldwide revolution of the Period of Trial of the Apocalypse. He will return at the head of the Armies of Heaven to rescue the beleaguered Jews, who will have converted in mass to Christianity, which will be the cue for Christ to return, and when he returns, he will return to them already designated their Messiah, he will return to wage war against his enemies (amassed against Jerusalem at Armageddon), and establish his reign upon the Earth from the Throne of David in the city of Jerusalem on Mount Zion in the Jewish nation of Israel as King of the kings of the Earth for one thousand years--one thousand years of world peace (this Millennial Messianic Reign is referred to in the ancient prophecies as “The Millennial Sabbath”.) This will end the Church Age, which began after Christ established his Church and appointed Peter his Prime Minister till his return. After Christ returns, there will be no more popes, he himself will rule over his flock. (Jewish Prophecy had foretold that the Church of Jesus Christ would be allotted two thousand years to evangelize the nations before his return; since Christ ascended in 27AD, this allotted time will be up in 2027AD, Christ will return not long afterwards).
So yes, Christ will return. When he returns, God the Father will be harvesting the crop of mortal men on Earth. He will send a “radiant planet from remotest exile” to engage the Earth in near collision, and it will destroy the surface of the Earth with fire along with most life on it—and life will begin anew from the few survivors around the Earth. This will bring the present World Age to an end, and a New World Age will begin afterwards, the Messianic World Age, if you will.
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Why don't you answer my question, Louie? Do you believe Jesus would order man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for these reasons?
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
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bigd9832
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Quote from louie6332... None of the sects you listed (Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Protestants, Jews, and Muslims) are Pagans, except for the Muslims.
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That's not exactly right, louie.
The Catholics have picked up alot from the pagans. For example...
The idea that some part of us (the soul) lives on after death and enjoys some type of "after-life." Even the term "after-life" is an oxymoron.
The Jews believed in the Resurrection by the Messiah. But they did not generally believe that anyone would "live" in another form after they died. That is a pagan tradition. The Ancient Egyptians and Greeks held those beliefs.
Christianity needs to follow the pattern of Israel, not the pagans.
The Catholic church is apostate.
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Muslims are not Pagans, Louie.
Lud, you say (pg 11): “What is paganism? Paganism is the belief in more than one God. Catholics, as well as Eastern Orthodox, Protestants, Jews, and Muslims, believe in only one God, so by definition they aren't pagans.”
No, “Paganism” is not “belief in more than one God, you are describing “polytheism”, not “paganism”.
“Paganism”, by fundamentally and by definition, is the worship of creatures rather than the Creator, whether it be the sun or moon or earth or demons (fallen angels) or dead relatives or oneself.
None of the sects you listed (Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Protestants, Jews, and Muslims) are Pagans, except for the Muslims. Mohammed and his Father were Pagans. And Muslims worship the demon Allah, who is “Alah”, the ancient Babylonian of god of Destruction, spoken of in the ancient Babylonian tablets (this was discovered by an archeologist going through the Babylonian ruins in the twentieth century). Mohammedanism is, therefore, a mono-theistic Pagan religion.
Christians and Jews are strictly forbidden by God the Father, the Creator, to worship anyone but him, the Creator: “I am the Lord thy God who brought thy out of the land lf Egypt, I am a jealous God, and I will have NO other gods before me!” If you know who God is, you are required to submit yourself to him, your salvation depends on it. If you do not know, but you avoid serious sin and serve God the best you know how in your ignorance, you are judged accordingly.
Louie
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Jesus taught that in the next world are Heaven, Hell, Purgatory, and Limbo.
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Jesus taught that in the next world are Heaven, Hell, Purgatory, and Limbo.
No, he didn't. That's your scrupulosity, your religious obsessive-compulsive disorder talking.
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bigd9832
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Quote from ludlowlowell... Jesus taught that in the next world are Heaven, Hell, Purgatory, and Limbo.
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No. Jesus never used the words "hell," "purgatory," and "limbo."
Jesus taught that no one goes to Heaven unless they came from Heaven...
CLV Jn 3:13 And no one has ascended into heaven except He Who descends out of heaven, the Son of Mankind Who is in heaven.
CLV Jn 8:23 He said, then, to them, "You are of that which is below; I am of that which is above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.
Jesus taught the Resurrection...
CLV Jn 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the Resurrection and the Life. He who is believing in Me, even if he should be dying, shall be living.
26 And everyone who is living and believing in Me, should by no means be dying for the eon. Are you believing this?"
I don't know what Jesus ludlow is following but it isn't Jesus Christ from the NT.
The Catholic church lies.
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Of course Jesus never used the words Heaven, Hell, Purgatory, or Limbo. These are English words, and Jesus didn't speak English. But Jesus taught all four of these concepts.
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Jesus didn't write the Bible and He didn't instruct His followers to pray to Mary and to horribly torture and burn people to death at the stake calling them witches and heretics like dozens of your Catholic popes did for over 500 years. Nor did He call his followers to unquestionably submit to the dictates of your corrupt Catholic church and the book they compiled. You are no more a Christian follower of Jesus than were the murderous Pharisees who killed Him, Ludlow.
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Jesus didn't teach ANY of those concepts.
Only in your dreams, ludlow.
What is the Ancient word for "purgatory"?
What is the Ancient word for "limbo"?
We already know that you don't have an Ancient word for "hell."
The Catholic church lies.
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What is the ancient word for "concept"? What is the ancient word for "word game"?
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You are no more a Christian follower of Jesus than were the murderous Pharisees who killed Him, Ludlow.
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The Pharisees did not kill Jesus, the licentious multi-god worshipping Romans did. True, they didn't have the 700,000 gods you do, but they had at least a dozen or so.
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kb2222
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The Pharisees did not kill Jesus, the licentious multi-god worshipping Romans did. True, they didn't have the 700,000 gods you do, but they had at least a dozen or so.
You are a servant of Satan for you lie at every turn. Yes, the Roman soldiers were the actual ones who killed Jesus but you know damn well that it was the Pharisees who considered Jesus a blasphemer and a trouble maker and they wanted the Romans to kill Him.
You are so corrupt all you can do is refuse to honestly respond to posts because you have no defense/rebuttal for truth that exposes what a corrupt liar you are.
Again, Jesus didn't write the Bible and He didn't instruct His followers to pray to Mary and to horribly torture and burn people to death at the stake calling them witches and heretics like dozens of your Catholic popes did for over 500 years. Nor did He call his followers to unquestionably submit to the dictates of your corrupt Catholic church and the book they compiled. You are no more a Christian follower of Jesus than were the murderous Pharisees who killed Him, Ludlow.
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bigd9832
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Quote from ludlowlowell... What is the ancient word for "concept"? What is the ancient word for "word games"?
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Are you playing word games again ludlow?
Trying to retro-fit your church's man-made doctrines?
You start with the English word (like "purgatory" or "limbo") and then go backwards to try to find something that fits. It doesn't matter if it was used that way or not. As long as we can make it look like it fits.
Isn't that how you play, ludlow?
CLV 2Ti 1:13 Have a pattern of sound words, which you hear from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus.
"purgatory," "limbo," and "hell" are Unsound words.
Unless you are playing Limbo.
The Catholic church lies.
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bigd9832
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Quote from ludlowlowell... The Pharisees did not kill Jesus, the licentious multi-god worshipping Romans did. True, they didn't have the 700,000 gods you do, but they had at least a dozen or so.
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The Catholic church has quiet a few gods. There's the "trinity," that's at least 3. Then there's Mary, I have seen Catholics worship her. All the dead saints, there's a bunch of those.
Lots of extra gods in the Catholic religion.
The Catholic church is corrupt.
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Catholics only worship one God, and the three Persons in that godhead. See Colossians 2:9 and Matthew 28:19.
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The Pharisees did not kill Jesus, the licentious multi-god worshipping Romans did. True, they didn't have the 700,000 gods you do, but they had at least a dozen or so.
You should stop your lying. We don't have any "gods" at all.
You can use words like "venerate" for worship and "saints" for gods, but they are what they are. If you pray to someone for help in finding your car keys, that someone is your Car Key Finding god. Looks, walks, smells, like duck. It must be a duck. You pray to your gods all the time. You have different gods for different needs. Some specialize in this and some in that. The Romans had the same sort of Pantheon of gods that you do. It gives the prayer life some variety, you say. We only pray to God and Jesus. Period. And "worshiping" only has one "p" in it. You can tell because it's underlined in red when you spell it wrong. And yes, it was the Jews who really killed Jesus, not the Romans. The Jews engineered His death. They set Jesus up and framed Him. It's on them, not on the Romans.
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Catholics only worship one God, and the three Persons in that godhead. See Colossians 2:9 and Matthew 28:19.
But you adamantly refuse to obey Him. See Matthew 23:9. You worship Him with your lips only.
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kb2222
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Catholics only worship one God, and the three Persons in that godhead. See Colossians 2:9 and Matthew 28:19.
Again,
You are a servant of Satan for you lie at every turn. Yes, the Roman soldiers were the actual ones who killed Jesus but you know damn well that it was the Pharisees who considered Jesus a blasphemer and a trouble maker and they wanted the Romans to kill Him.
You are so corrupt all you can do is refuse to honestly respond to posts because you have no defense/rebuttal for truth that exposes what a corrupt liar you are.
Again, Jesus didn't write the Bible and He didn't instruct His followers to pray to Mary and to horribly torture and burn people to death at the stake calling them witches and heretics like dozens of your Catholic popes did for over 500 years. Nor did He call his followers to unquestionably submit to the dictates of your corrupt Catholic church and the book they compiled. You are no more a Christian follower of Jesus than were the murderous Pharisees who killed Him, Ludlow.
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What is the ancient word for "concept"? What is the ancient word for "word game"?
Lud! stop it. Try to get a grip on reality. Try before it's too late. You're drifting farther into unreality. It's obvious because you're getting more and more irrational with your responses and more non sequiturs are creeping in.
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bigd9832
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The Catholic church has quiet a few gods. There's the "trinity," that's at least 3. Then there's Mary, I have seen Catholics worship her. All the dead saints, there's a bunch of those.
Lots of extra gods in the Catholic religion.
The Catholic church is corrupt.
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celyn67
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the most important thing is to know him and be ready in such an hour he comes
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louie6332
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KB, Urantia Book promoter, you say Jesus did not write a Bible nor order his followers to write a Bible. Well, can you find anywhere in the Bible were he ordered anyone to write the Urantia Book? And can you find anywhere in there where he revealed there were 700,000 “creator sons of God”? No, I didn’t think so. So why do you attempt to deny something exists, if it is not mentioned in the Bible? Does the Bible say that anything not mentioned in the Bible does not exist? Of course not. So why do you pretend that anything based on that assertion is valid?
Today, Satan and his demons roam the world like furies, seeking to deceive even the elect, if that were possible, for they know their time grows short, and the Urantia Book is part of their effort. Thankfully, however, only two of you haunting this Christian forum have fallen for that deception. You fell for it, because you have no discernment of what is of divine origin and what is not. You are not content with the loss of your own soul, but you want to cause the loss of other souls in this Forum--misery loves company, I guess.
KB, you say of Urantia Book adherents: “We don't have any "gods" at all.” I wish I had a dollar for every time you have said that. Are you putting your foot in your mouth again? But if true, that makes you, by definition, an Atheist.
So now we learn that there is no God, no Hell, and no Heaven (which is the place where God has his throne set up—if there is no god, then there can be no Heaven in which to set up a throne to sit on.
Louie
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"FOR THE LAW WAS GIVEN THROUGH MOSES BUT GRACE AND TRUTH CAME THROUGH JESUS CHRIST!!
"Matthew 5:29: Jesus says, "For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the Kingdom of Heaven!"
Luke 16:16: Jesus says, "The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. {The Baptist}. Since that time, the good news of the Kingdom of God is being preached!!"
John 1:17: For the Law was given through Moses, and Grace and Truth came through Jesus Christ!"
John 8:3-7: The teachers of the Law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus. "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. {As per Leviticus 20:10}. Now what do You say? They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing Him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with His finger. When they kept on questioning Him, He straightened up and said, "If anyone of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her!"
So here Jesus repealed Leviticus 20:10 and the other 25 Laws of Moses for stoning people!!
Mark 10:2-12: Some Pharisees came and tested Jesus by asking, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?" "What did Moses command you, Jesus replied. They said, "Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away." {For any reason}
"It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law." Jesus replied. Jesus says, "A man will leave his father and mother and be united with his wife, and the two will became one flesh... Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate... Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. And if she divorces her husband and marries anther man she commits adultery."
Jesus also says in Mathew 5:27,28: "You have head that it was said , 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery in his heart!"
And so Jesus completely changed and added to the OT Laws of Moses on Adultery!
Leviticus 26:7,8: God said to Israel, "You will pursue your enemies, and they will fall by the SWORD before you. Five of you will chase a hundred, and a hundred of you will chase ten thousand, and your enemies will fall by the SWORD before you!" Numbers 25:16,17" The Lord said to Moses, "Treat the Midianites as enemies and kill them!" etc etc
HOWEVER IN THE NEW COVENANT, JESUS SAYS, "ALL WHO DRAW THE SWORD WILL DIE BY THE SWORD!"
Matthew 26:30-34: They seized Jesus and arrested Him. With that, one of Jesus' companions reached for his sword, drew it out and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear. "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "For *ALL* who draw the sword will die by the sword...But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way?"
Jesus said to Pilate, "My Kingdom is not of this world. If it were, My servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But **NOW** My Kingdom is from another place!"
Former OT commands in Exodus 21:23-25 "If there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise."
This was changed by these NT commands by Jesus:
Matthew 5:38,39: Jesus commands, "You have heard that it was said {In Exodus 21:23-25 above}, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek turn to him the other also!"
Luke 6:27-29: Jesus commands, "LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you. do not demand it back!"
When you join the military and become a professional killer you must make a **VOW** that you will obey all the commands of your commanding officer. And so if He commands you to drop an Atomic Bomb that will kill about 100,000 civilians including about 25,000 innocent children you must obey this command!!!
What is the OT command concerning *VOWS* and *OATHS*?? Numbers 30:2: Moses said, "This is what the Lord commands: When a man makes a *VOW* to the Lord or takes an *OATH* to obligate himself by a pledge, he must not break his word but must do everything he said!"
What are the NT commands concerning making *VOWS* and **OATHS*??
James 5:12: "ABOVE ALL, my brothers, do not swear--not by heaven or by earth or by anything else. Let your "Yes" be yes, and your "No," no, or you will be condemned.!!"
Matthew 5:33-37: Jesus says, "You have heard that it was said to your people long ago {Numbers 30:2 above}, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.' BUT I tell you, Do not swear at all....Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No, 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one!!"
Anyone who claims that Jesus did not change OT laws of Moses is completely blind. All of the OT sabbath laws have been eliminated. All of the OT sacrificial and temple laws have been eliminated by the eternal sacrifice for sins by Jesus. All of the stoning to death laws for breaking the law have been eliminated. All of the laws concerning killing your enemies, and eye for an eye and making oaths have been eliminated. All Circumcision laws have been eliminated. And Jesus declared that all foods are now *CLEAN*!!
Mark 7:18,19: Jesus says, "Are you so dull?" He asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." In saying this. Jesus declared ALL FOODS "CLEAN!"
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KB, Urantia Book promoter, you say Jesus did not write a Bible nor order his followers to write a Bible. Well, can you find anywhere in the Bible were he ordered anyone to write the Urantia Book?
God orders what He orders, Louie, and He doesn't have to ask your permission or give you prior notice.
And can you find anywhere in there where he revealed there were 700,000 “creator sons of God”?
They are "Creator Sons," Louie, capitalized. And yes, the bible hints at them. Actually, it more than hints:
Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the [Creator Sons] of God shouted for joy?
KB, you say of Urantia Book adherents: “We don't have any "gods" at all.” I wish I had a dollar for every time you have said that. Are you putting your foot in your mouth again? But if true, that makes you, by definition, an Atheist.
We have to say that every time Ludlow lies and says we have "gods." We do not. We only have one God.
So now we learn that there is no God, no Hell, and no Heaven (which is the place where God has his throne set up—if there is no god, then there can be no Heaven in which to set up a throne to sit on.
You're very confused, Louie. We believe in God and we believe in Heaven. We also believe in the Trinity and in the Crucifixion and the Resurrection and so on and so forth.
Louie
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ludlowlowell
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Sounds like 700,000 pagan gods to me.
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followjesusonly
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Sounds like 700,000 pagan gods to me.
Yeah?, well it's not. You're just an ignorant man.
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bigd9832
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Quote from ludlowlowell... Sounds like 700,000 pagan gods to me.
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The Catholics have quiet a few gods themselves.
I have already shown that Mary is one of their false gods. Then there is this "trinity." That's gotta be at least three.
And all the dead saints. How many of them are there?
Are the early church fathers considered saints too?
Quiet a collection you have there.
CLV Dt 6:4 Hear, Israel! Yahweh is our Elohim; Yahweh the only One.
CLV Mk 12:29 Jesus answered him that "The foremost precept of all is: Hear, Israel! the Lord our God is one Lord.
The Catholic church lies.
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ludlowlowell
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We don't call our saints creators.
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bigd9832
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Alligators or Crocodiles.
It's still the Everglades.
The Catholic church is corrupt.
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