Jesus is coming again

7/9/2016 10:01:26 PM	Jesus is coming again
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7/9/2016 10:01:58 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	That is true.
7/10/2016 1:26:30 AM	Jesus is coming again
bigd9832 Chicago, IL 64, joined Oct. 2007	Amen!
7/10/2016 12:37:40 PM	Jesus is coming again
isna_la_wica Brantford, ON 63, joined Mar. 2012	Quote from wayn49: the most important thing is to know him and be ready in such an hour he comes Sure he will show him self to us in physical form at the second coming. But that does not mean he left us. John 14 John 14Young's Literal Translation (YLT) 14 `Let not your heart be troubled, believe in God, also in me believe; 2 in the house of my Father are many mansions; and if not, I would have told you; I go on to prepare a place for you; 3 and if I go on and prepare for you a place, again do I come, and will receive you unto myself, that where I am ye also may be; 4 and whither I go away ye have known, and the way ye have known.' 5 Thomas saith to him, `Sir, we have not known whither thou goest away, and how are we able to know the way?' Thomas asks Jesus, but if you go, how will we know the way? Remember, Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life". So asking this question is in fact, asking him, "but how will we know, you"? And Jesus says that in his answer : 6 Jesus saith to him, `I am the way, and the truth, and the life, no one doth come unto the Father, if not through me; 7 if ye had known me, my Father also ye would have known, and from this time ye have known Him, and have seen Him.' 8 Philip saith to him, `Sir, shew to us the Father, and it is enough for us;' 9 Jesus saith to him, `So long time am I with you, and thou hast not known me, Philip? he who hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how dost thou say, Shew to us the Father? 10 Believest thou not that I [am] in the Father, and the Father is in me? the sayings that I speak to you, from myself I speak not, and the Father who is abiding in me, Himself doth the works; 11 believe me, that I [am] in the Father, and the Father in me; and if not, because of the works themselves, believe me. Some here do not believe that Jesus was the father. They claim Jesus gave up all his fathers part when he came to earth.{ JW`s and the Knoch follower claim this.} 12 `Verily, verily, I say to you, he who is believing in me, the works that I do -- that one also shall do, and greater than these he shall do, because I go on to my Father; 13 and whatever ye may ask in my name, I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son; 14 if ye ask anything in my name I will do [it]. Was that promise just for those who knew him in a physical body? No, Jesus answers that that through "spirit, he will still be with us, he says so in the following : 15 `If ye love me, my commands keep, 16 and I will ask the Father, and another Comforter He will give to you, that he may remain with you -- to the age; 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world is not able to receive, because it doth not behold him, nor know him, and ye know him, because he doth remain with you, and shall be in you. 18 `I will not leave you bereaved, I come unto you; 19 yet a little, and the world doth no more behold me, and ye behold me, because I live, and ye shall live; 20 in that day ye shall know that I [am] in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you; 21 he who is having my commands, and is keeping them, that one it is who is loving me, and he who is loving me shall be loved by my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.' So we will see him in physical form one day, but the fact is, he has not left us. When did he leave us? This is where the ones who deny the 3 in one, that claim Jesus was only a human, get into trouble and claim such a promise is false. For if the deny the trinity, then they have to say, Jesus left us, he is not with us, and woe we need a new temple built so he can come again! It will be nice at the second coming sure. But Jesus reassured us that until that appointed time, we should be comforted and assured he never left us as orphans". And he still is with us. [Edited 7/10/2016 12:40:09 PM ]
7/10/2016 12:49:57 PM	Jesus is coming again
wayn49 Birmingham, AL 55, joined Feb. 2011	so isna what do you believe in his return? In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also and it states this 6 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words. and many more verses about his coming again
7/10/2016 1:08:43 PM	Jesus is coming again
isna_la_wica Brantford, ON 63, joined Mar. 2012	so isna what do you believe in his return? lIKE, when and where? No idea. Matthew 24:36 Young's Literal Translation 'And concerning that day and the hour no one hath known -- not even the messengers of the heavens -- except my Father only; I take that in a literal way. How ever, reject most of these theories by the doom and gloomers that say it is today or tomorrow. For the next verse reads: Matthew 24:37 Young's Literal Translation and as the days of Noah -- so shall be also the presence of the Son of Man; And what were those days like? This by Logan Marshall describes what that was like : And as God looked down on the world that he had made, he saw how wicked the men in it had become, and that every thought and every act of man was evil and only evil continually. But while most of the people in the world were very wicked, there were some good people also, though they were very few. The best of all the men who lived at that time was a man whose name was Enoch. He was not the son of Cain, but another Enoch, who came from the family of Seth, the son of Adam, who was born after the death of Abel. While so many around Enoch were doing evil, this man did only what was right. He walked with God and God walked with him, and talked with him. And at last, when Enoch was a very old man and weary with life, God took him away from earth to heaven. He did not die, as all the people have since Adam disobeyed God, but "he was not, for God took him." This means that Enoch was taken up from earth without dying. The Story of Noah and the Ark The Wonder Book of Bible Stories — Logan Marshall I know more than most the wickedness on earth right now. I do work where I see photos of it all day long. But I also see lots of people who risk their lives for strangers every day as well. Am I wrong? Could be, sure. But what the Cross gave me was sufficient. And the Holy Spirit is sufficient. I may suffer sure, yearn for the world to come. But I am assured that his promises are available to me now. If you meant, do I believe in the rapture? Nope, I do not. When he returns we will be judged, if that is what you mean? No one knows the time though, no one.
7/10/2016 5:56:04 PM	Jesus is coming again
bigd9832 Chicago, IL 64, joined Oct. 2007	Quote from isna_la_wica.... This is where the ones who deny the 3 in one, that claim Jesus was only a human, get into trouble and claim such a promise is false. For if the deny the trinity, then they have to say, Jesus left us, he is not with us, and woe we need a new temple built so he can come again! ******************************************************************************** Of course this man has no idea what he is talking about. You don't need a "trinity" to see the Jesus Christ was the Only Begotten Son of God, and as such was never "only a human." Jesus walked on water, healed the sick, and raised the dead. And He told us we could do it too... CLV Jn 14:12 Verily, verily, I am saying to you, he who is believing in Me, the works which I am doing he also will be doing, and greater than these will he be doing, for I am going to the Father.** The Bible speaks of other Sons of God as well. Hamlet: And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. So this guy says we will see Jesus during the Second coming but He never left.
7/10/2016 8:25:51 PM	Jesus is coming again
isna_la_wica Brantford, ON 63, joined Mar. 2012	Deuteronomy 31:8 ESV It is the Lord who goes before you. He will be with you; he will not leave you or forsake you. Do not fear or be dismayed.” Deuteronomy 31:6 ESV Be strong and courageous. Do not fear or be in dread of them, for it is the Lord your God who goes with you. He will not leave you or forsake you.” Hebrews 13:5 ESV Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.” Joshua 1:9 ESV Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.” Isaiah 41:10-13 ESV Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. Behold, all who are incensed against you shall be put to shame and confounded; those who strive against you shall be as nothing and shall perish. You shall seek those who contend with you, but you shall not find them; those who war against you shall be as nothing at all. For I, the Lord your God, hold your right hand; it is I who say to you, “Fear not, I am the one who helps you.” 1 Peter 5:7 ESV Casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you. Hebrews 13:5-6 ESV Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.” So we can confidently say, “The Lord is my helper; I will not fear; what can man do to me?” Matthew 28:20 ESV Teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” That is right, he is with us always. In Old Testament times we are told the Lord was with us. Was God in physical form and with them all time? No, his spirit was. And in New Testament times, was Jesus with them always? No, one would be in one City and Jesus was in another some times. And today is the same. The Lords spirit is with us always. 1 John 5:6-8 Young's Literal Translation (YLT) 6 This one is he who did come through water and blood -- Jesus the Christ, not in the water only, but in the water and the blood; and the Spirit it is that is testifying, because the Spirit is the truth, 7 because three are who are testifying [in the heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these -- the three -- are one; 8 and three are who are testifying in the earth], the Spirit, and the water, and the blood, and the three are into the one. Fact is, the Lord is with us always, and the 3 are 1. Scoff all you like.
7/10/2016 9:02:58 PM	Jesus is coming again
louie6332 Falkville, AL 75, joined Nov. 2011	Wayne, Jesus is coming again, visibly, but I thought your cult leader Ellen White saw in her visions that Jesus already returned but nobody saw him return, that his return was invisible. Are you now admitting that she was wrong? Louie
7/10/2016 9:15:48 PM	Jesus is coming again
looptex1 Chatsworth, GA 49, joined Jun. 2008	Quote from louie6332: Wayne, Jesus is coming again, visibly, but I thought your cult leader Ellen White saw in her visions that Jesus already returned but nobody saw him return, that his return was invisible. Are you now admitting that she was wrong? Louie And what was it your leader said? Florida was going to be destroyed, America was going to collapse, among other things. Are you now saying they were false?
7/10/2016 10:25:34 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from looptex1: And what was it your leader said? Florida was going to be destroyed, America was going to collapse, among other things. Are you now saying they were false? Louie's house
7/12/2016 8:09:39 PM	Jesus is coming again
cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010	Jesus does not lie.
7/14/2016 7:04:37 AM	Jesus is coming again
cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010	Yes he is.
7/17/2016 10:19:12 PM	Jesus is coming again
isna_la_wica Brantford, ON 63, joined Mar. 2012	I am not a end times prophecy theory follower at all. In fact, I think ( I stress "think", not stating it as fact} , that most of Bible prophecy dealt with the 1st century. But if I was ? I would certainly be looking close at Turkey. ith in 2 years I bet, the Islamic Caliphate will be established, based in Turkey. They will follow the example of Iran. And it is quite logical to see how Russia would attack such a state. But here is the weird thing. Again, I believe that he beast and Anti Christ was in the 1st century. nd I am not even positive the right Gematria number was 666, it might have been interpreted wrong and is actually, 613. But just for the heck of it tonight, I looked up Erdogan`s Gematria number. And his number in: In English Gematria : 666. In Jewish Gematria : 340 In Simple Gematria Equals: 111 Checking the Hebrew full text Gamatria value base for verses that add up to 340, is this verse: Genesis 40:7 Young's Literal Translation and he asketh Pharaoh's eunuchs who are with him in charge in the house of his lord, saying, 'Wherefore are your faces sad to-day?' Now most interpretative translations do not use the word "Eunich". But this is the right translation. From Strongs : Strong's Number H5630 < H5631 > H5632 ???? cariyc {saw-reece'} or ??? caric {saw-reece'} from an unused root meaning to castrate; TWOT - 1545; n m AV - eunuch 17, chamberlain 13, officer 12; 42 1) official, eunuch In Daniel 11:37 we read that he has no regard for woman: Young's Literal Translation And unto the God of his fathers he doth not attend, nor to the desire of women, yea, to any god he doth not attend, for against all he magnifieth himself. That describes, Erdogan. In the simple Gematria #111, we find it symbolizes : -Symbol of the Trinity of God, One and Three times Saint. It represents the God-Father in the Holy Trinity. - It symbolizes also the Sky. -A solar number according to the Cabal and the Tarot. And all of those are associated with the "Anti Christ", and "fake Christ". There that is my conspiracy theory for the week !
7/31/2016 1:41:30 PM	Jesus is coming again
cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010
7/31/2016 3:45:21 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Jesus bisibly left this good green earth when He ascended into Heaven, and one day He will visibly return on clouds of glory. But invisibly, He never left---He is present in His Church, in the Holy Eucharist, and in the hearts of those who love Him. And since He is God He is always present everywhere.
7/31/2016 4:32:15 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Please ask your landlady for permission to have a computer in your room. It'll help make your posts bisibly better.
7/31/2016 4:52:47 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	She said absolutely no bomputers!
8/1/2016 9:22:57 AM	Jesus is coming again
bigd9832 Chicago, IL 64, joined Oct. 2007	ludlow, are you doing your landlady?
8/1/2016 3:10:30 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from bigd9832: ludlow, are you doing your landlady? He ain't doing anybody, not even Mr. Hand.
8/1/2016 4:28:35 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	When you guys run out of logical arguments, you always resort to personal insults, in violation of Matthew 5:22. [Edited 8/1/2016 4:28:59 PM ]
8/1/2016 4:57:17 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: When you guys run out of logical arguments, you always resort to personal insults, in violation of Matthew 5:22. It doesn't matter as long as you're in clear violation of Matthew 23:9. And what personal insults are you referring to, just above?
8/1/2016 5:16:28 PM	Jesus is coming again
prophetic774 Winter Haven, FL 66, joined Feb. 2011	DOES THE URANTIA BOOK AGREE WITH GOD'S WORD IN THE BIBLE?? If we compare the teachings of The Urantia Book with those of the Bible, we quickly discover that The Urantia Book, far from being consistent with biblical Christianity, actually denies or distorts almost every fundamental doctrine of the Christian faith. For example, contrary to the testimony of Jesus in the New Testament–that the Scriptures are the word of God (Matt. 15:3-6), inspired by the Holy Spirit (Matt. 22:43), and completely true and accurate in all details (Matt. 5:17-18; Luke 24:44; John 17:17)–The Urantia Book has Jesus declaring to Nathaniel, “the Scriptures are faulty and altogether human in origin” (UB, 1767). The rejection of the Bible as a fallible human document sets the stage for the rejection of many other biblical doctrines as well. For example, The Urantia Book rejects the Bible’s views about God, Christ, man, sin, and salvation. Contrary to the biblical position that there is only one God (Deut. 6:4; Isa. 45:21), The Urantia Book espouses polytheism, the belief in many “Gods.” Martin Gardner points out that the term “Gods” (a capitalized plural) “appears more than a hundred times” in The Urantia Book.{17} For instance, on page 364 we read, “We are all a part of an eternal project which the Gods are supervising and outworking.” Although The Urantia Book does acknowledge the existence of one supreme God, it rejects biblical Trinitarianism in favor of its own view that there is actually a “Trinity of Trinities” (UB, 1170-73). But this is only the beginning. According to Gardner, there are so many “gods” in The Urantia Book that its polytheism “puts Greek and Hindu mythology to shame.”{18} The view of Jesus presented in The Urantia Book is equally disturbing and unbiblical. To begin, the virgin birth is rejected. Jesus was simply born of Joseph and Mary (UB, 1344-45). Nevertheless, although he had human parents, he is also presented as the incarnation of Michael of Nebadon, the creator of our universe and one of “more than 700,000 Creator Sons of the Eternal Son.”{19} This clearly conflicts with the New Testament’s view of Jesus, which reveals that He was conceived by the Holy Spirit in the womb of the virgin Mary (Matt. 1:18-25; Luke 1:26-38). Furthermore, John tells us that Jesus is the one and only eternal Son of God in an absolutely unique sense (John 1:1-2, 14; 3:16). He is not merely one of more than 700,000 other Creator Sons; He is truly unique. These doctrinal differences are only the tip of the iceberg. There are many other differences between The Urantia Book and the Bible. However, due to space considerations, I can only mention the following. The Urantia Book declares, “There has been no ‘fall of man.'” (UB, 846). This explains, at least in part, why there is also no need for any blood atonement for sin (UB, 60). The Urantia Book tells us, “The whole idea of ransom and atonement is incompatible with the concept of God as it was taught and exemplified by Jesus of Nazareth” (UB, 2017). The notion of “substituting an innocent sufferer for a guilty offender” is dismissed as a “childish scheme” (UB, 2017). What, then, was the meaning of Jesus’ death on the cross? According to The Urantia Book, “We know that the death on the cross was not to effect man’s reconciliation to God but to stimulate man’s realization of the Father’s eternal love and his Son’s unending mercy” (UB, 2019). Obviously, these teachings strike at the very heart of the Christian message. Genesis 3-5 and Romans 5 make it quite clear that there has indeed been a “fall of man” into sin and rebellion against his Creator. The entire race was ruined and condemned because of Adam’s disobedience. Paul tells us plainly that “the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men” (Rom. 5:18). The ideas of ransom and substitutionary atonement are not incompatible with Jesus’ view of God. Indeed, Jesus Himself stated that He came “to give His life as a ransom for many” (Matt. 20:28). The Bible tells us that “all have sinned” (Rom. 3:23), but it also tells us that “Christ died for our sins” (1 Cor. 15:3). Contrary to The Urantia Book, Jesus did not die merely to stimulate man’s realization of the Father’s love; He died to reconcile us to God (Rom. 5:10; Col. 1:22). It is because Christ died for our sins that God can now offer us salvation as a free gift (Rom. 6:23). We cannot earn this gift; we can only gratefully receive it through faith in Christ (Rom. 3:22-28; Eph. 2:8-9).
8/1/2016 10:34:32 PM	Jesus is coming again
prophetic774 Winter Haven, FL 66, joined Feb. 2011	Quote from followjesusonly: Just a quick addition here. A. The Urantia Book doesn't claim to agree with the bible and it's not necessarily supposed to agree with the bible, and B., Proph, really, the bible is not "God's Word." God's Word must be HOLY and verses such as these below are not HOLY and saying they are "God's Word" is blasphemy against God. The only words of God in the bible, Proph, were spoken by Jesus. Num 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. kjv 1Sa 15:2-3 Thus saith the LORD of hosts..., Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. kjv Those verses are not God's Word, Proph. Face it. Now lets look at these 2 passages in context in the NIV Version: Numbers 31:13-18: Moses said, "Have you allowed the women to live?" he asked them. "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the Lord .... Now kill all the boys, and kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." I Samuel 15:2,3: Samuel said, "This is what the Lord almighty says' "I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them, put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys." In the OT God ordered Israel to kill their enemies many times and God helped them do it. However in the NT Jesus commands, "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also." Luke 6:27-29 Leviticus 26:7,8: God said to Israel, "You will pursue your enemies, and they will fall by the SWORD before you. Five of you will chase a hundred, and a hundred of you will chase ten thousand, and your enemies will fall by the SWORD before you!" Numbers 25:16,17" The Lord said to Moses, "Treat the Midianites as enemies and kill them!" etc etc HOWEVER IN THE NEW COVENANT, JESUS SAYS, "ALL WHO DRAW THE SWORD WILL DIE BY THE SWORD!" Jesus said to His 11 Apostles, "If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. For it is written: "And He was numbered with the transgressors"{Isaiah 53:12} and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in Me. Yes, what is written about Me is reaching its fulfillment." The disciples said, "See Lord, here are 2 {Not 11}swords." "That is enough." Jesus replied. Matthew 26:30-34: They seized Jesus and arrested Him. With that, one of Jesus' companions reached for his sword, drew it out and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear. "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "For ALL who draw the sword will die by the sword...But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way?" And so the only reason that Jesus allowed the disciples to have 2 swords was so that the Scripture in Isaiah 53:12 would be fulfilled: "He was numbered among the transgressors." Jesus said to Pilate, "My Kingdom is not of this world. If it were, My servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But NOW My Kingdom is from another place!" Former OT commands in Exodus 21:23-25 "If there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise." This was changed by these NT commands by Jesus: Matthew 5:38,39: Jesus commands, "You have heard that it was said {In Exodus 21:23-25 above}, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek turn to him the other also!" Luke 6:27-29: Jesus commands, "LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you. do not demand it back!" Romans 12:18-21: If it is possible, as far as it DEPENDS ON YOU, LIVE AT PEACE WITH EVERYONE! Do not take revenge my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written, "It is mine to revenge, I will repay," says the Lord. On the contrary "If your enemy is hungry, feed him. If he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head" Do not be overcome by evil but OVERCOME EVIL WITH GOOD!! 2 Corinthians 10:3,4: "For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are NOT the weapons of the world." The only weapons that NT saints may use who follow the New Covenant commands of Jesus is the Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God. A NT saint would not even think of joining the army of any nation and becoming a professional killer or defending himself with a gun. Unfortunately very few Groups such as the Amish and Mennonites still obey these sacred commands of Jesus. The inspired words of the NT were inspired by God between AD 50 and AD 96 and the 4 Gospels were written about AD 65 And so all of the approximately 400 NT commands were not completed and in force until Around AD 96. When you join the military and become a professional killer you must make a VOW that you will obey all the commands of your commanding officer. And so if He commands you to drop an Atomic Bomb that will kill about 100,000 civilians including about 25,000 innocent children you must obey this command!!! What is the OT command concerning VOWS and OATHS?? Numbers 30:2: Moses said, "This is what the Lord commands: When a man makes a VOW to the Lord or takes an OATH to obligate himself by a pledge, he must not break his word but must do everything he said!" What are the NT commands concerning making VOWS and *OATHS?? James 5:12: "ABOVE ALL, my brothers, do not swear--not by heaven or by earth or by anything else. Let your "Yes" be yes, and your "No," no, or you will be condemned.!!" Matthew 5:33-37: Jesus says, "You have heard that it was said to your people long ago {Numbers 30:2 above}, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.' BUT I tell you, Do not swear at all....Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No, 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one!!" Anyone who claims that Jesus did not change OT laws is completely blind. All of the OT sabbath laws have been eliminated. All of the OT sacrifices and temple laws have been eliminated by the eternal sacrifice for sins by Jesus. All of the stoning to death laws for breaking the law have been eliminated. All of the laws concerning killing your enemies, and eye for an eye and making oaths have been eliminated!!
8/1/2016 11:07:21 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	What does your post have to do with me and mine, Proph? Are you still trying to show The Urantia Book is wrong because it's not what you already believe? It can't be done. All you can show is that it's not what you already believe. And no, Proph, God did not order Israel to kill anyone. God is powerful enough to kill everyone Himself. You blaspheme God with such beliefs and statements about Him. And this God that you say ordered Israel to kill is the very same God who, in the person of Jesus, said, "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;" The God you believe in must be a two headed psychopathic monster, Proph, on the one hand ordering Israel to commit genocide on its neighbors and on the other side saying "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you." God doesn't change, Proph. Which one do you believe in? It cannot be both. You can figure it out, Proph, but you'll have to make the effort. Let the Spirit of Truth guide you. The Jews, in the OT, no doubt had problems with their enemies, and when they beat them (I think they "utterly" annihilated the Amalekites many times), they would record in their "holy scriptures" that God made them do it. It's trash, Proph. The OT is the doctrines of men. =============================================================== [][]Quote from prophetic774:[/] Now lets look at these 2 passages in context in the NIV Version: [/] ================================================================ The NIV: The New International PER version.
8/2/2016 1:45:33 AM	Jesus is coming again
bigd9832 Chicago, IL 64, joined Oct. 2007	Quote from ludlowlowell... When you guys run out of logical arguments, you always resort to personal insults, in violation of Matthew 5:22. ****************************************************************************** The problem is, ludlow doesn't know what a personal insult is. He said I was insulting looptex1 for calling him loopy, but didn't realize that he told me it was OK to call him that. That was a while ago. He said I was insulting duggy for calling him "duggy dew." But that was him screen name when he came here a few years ago...dugydew. In both cases ludlow was wrong. And now maybe he can see that neither I nor FJO have run out of "logical arguments." Perhaps he has. The Catholic church is corrupt.
8/2/2016 2:04:50 AM	Jesus is coming again
d_voted Winnipeg, MB 64, joined Sep. 2008	When the 'Hell's Angels'; the KKK and the so called 'Christian' Evangelicals all come together to support a candidate with No moral compass it seems likely to be soon. When he tries to quote the Bible he refers to "Two Corinthians" instead of 'The Second Book to the Corinthians' one has to wonder if he has ever been near a church. Then to top it up he tells the 'Christian' assembly NOT to pray for Hillary. This is in direct conflict with what Jesus has told us to do: PRAY for your enemies. Imbecile and false prophet and woe to any who follow him into the gates of Hades. D
8/2/2016 3:12:29 AM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from d_voted: When the 'Hell's Angels'; the KKK and the so called 'Christian' Evangelicals all come together to support a candidate with No moral compass it seems likely to be soon. When he tries to quote the Bible he refers to "Two Corinthians" instead of 'The Second Book to the Corinthians' one has to wonder if he has ever been near a church. Then to top it up he tells the 'Christian' assembly NOT to pray for Hillary. This is in direct conflict with what Jesus has told us to do: PRAY for your enemies. Imbecile and false prophet and woe to any who follow him into the gates of Hades. D I suspect that Ludlow is a Trump man.
8/2/2016 3:23:13 AM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	I voted for Rubio in the Florida primary, and plan to vote for Trump in the general, whom I consider to be less bad than Clinton. And before I posted this I said one Our Father (Lord's Prayer) for Clinton and one for Trump. And one for Obama for good measure. [Edited 8/2/2016 3:24:08 AM ]
8/2/2016 2:50:58 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: I voted for Rubio in the Florida primary, and plan to vote for Trump in the general, whom I consider to be less bad than Clinton. And before I posted this I said one Our Father (Lord's Prayer) for Clinton and one for Trump. And one for Obama for good measure. How will a generic, canned prayer help any of them? Why didn't you pray from your heart, personally for each of them? And even so, what would you ask God to do for them that He isn't already doing? I fail to understand what saying the Lord's Prayer for those three is intended to accomplish.
8/2/2016 3:51:07 PM	Jesus is coming again
prophetic774 Winter Haven, FL 66, joined Feb. 2011	Voting for Trump or Clinton is something like voting for the anti-Christ or Satan!!
8/2/2016 11:36:51 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from prophetic774: Voting for Trump or Clinton is something like voting for the anti-Christ or Satan!! In your heart, Proph, you know Hillary is the better choice. By the way, Proph, why don't you pick up a copy of The Urantia Book and give it a read from cover to cover, starting at Paper 1, The Universal Father, and then on to: Paper 2: The Nature of God Paper 3: The Attributes of God Paper 4: God's Relation to the Universe Paper 5: God's Relation to the Individual Paper 6: The Eternal Son Paper 7: Relation of the Eternal Son to the Universe Paper 8: The Infinite Spirit Paper 9: Relation of the Infinite Spirit to the Universe Paper 10: The Paradise Trinity Paper 11: The Eternal Isle of Paradise Paper 12: The Universe of Universes Paper 13: The Sacred Spheres of Paradise Paper 14: The Central and Divine Universe Paper 15: The Seven Superuniverses Paper 16: The Seven Master Spirits Paper 17: The Seven Supreme Spirit Groups Paper 18: The Supreme Trinity Personalities Paper 19: The Co-ordinate Trinity-Origin Beings Paper 20: The Paradise Sons of God Paper 21: The Paradise Creator Sons Paper 22: The Trinitized Sons of God Paper 23: The Solitary Messengers Paper 24: Higher Personalities of the Infinite Spirit Paper 25: The Messenger Hosts of Space Paper 26: Ministering Spirits of the Central Universe Paper 27: Ministry of the Primary Supernaphim Paper 28: Ministering Spirits of the Superuniverses Paper 29: The Universe Power Directors Paper 30: Personalities of the Grand Universe Paper 31: The Corps of the Finality PART II. THE LOCAL UNIVERSE Paper 32: The Evolution of Local Universes Paper 33: Administration of the Local Universe Paper 34: The Local Universe Mother Spirit Paper 35: The Local Universe Sons of God Paper 36: The Life Carriers Paper 37: Personalities of the Local Universe Paper 38: Ministering Spirits of the Local Universe Paper 39: The Seraphic Hosts Paper 40: The Ascending Sons of God Paper 41: Physical Aspects of the Local Universe Paper 42: Energy_Mind and Matter Paper 43: The Constellations Paper 44: The Celestial Artisans Paper 45: The Local System Administration Paper 46: The Local System Headquarters Paper 47: The Seven Mansion Worlds Paper 48: The Morontia Life Paper 49: The Inhabited Worlds Paper 50: The Planetary Princes Paper 51: The Planetary Adams Paper 52: Planetary Mortal Epochs Paper 53: The Lucifer Rebellion Paper 54: Problems of the Lucifer Rebellion Paper 55: The Spheres of Light and Life Paper 56: Universal Unity PART III. THE HISTORY OF URANTIA (Earth) Paper 57: The Origin of Urantia Paper 58: Life Establishment on Urantia Paper 59: The Marine-Life Era on Urantia Paper 60: Urantia during the Early Land-Life Era Paper 61: The Mammalian Era on Urantia Paper 62: The Dawn Races of Early Man Paper 63: The First Human Family Paper 64: The Evolutionary Races of Color Paper 65: The Overcontrol of Evolution Paper 66: The Planetary Prince of Urantia Paper 67: The Planetary Rebellion Paper 68: The Dawn of Civilization Paper 69: Primitive Human Institutions Paper 70: The Evolution of Human Government Paper 71: Development of the State Paper 72: Government on a Neighboring Planet Paper 73: The Garden of Eden Paper 74: Adam and Eve Paper 75: The Default of Adam and Eve Paper 76: The Second Garden Paper 77: The Midway Creatures Paper 78: The Violet Race after the Days of Adam Paper 79: Andite Expansion in the Orient Paper 80: Andite Expansion in the Occident Paper 81: Development of Modern Civilization Paper 82: The Evolution of Marriage Paper 83: The Marriage Institution Paper 84: Marriage and Family Life Paper 85: The Origins of Worship Paper 86: Early Evolution of Religion Paper 87: The Ghost Cults Paper 88: Fetishes, Charms, and Magic Paper 89: Sin, Sacrifice, and Atonement Paper 90: Shamanism_Medicine Men and Priests Paper 91: The Evolution of Prayer Paper 92: The Later Evolution of Religion Paper 93: Machiventa Melchizedek Paper 94: The Melchizedek Teachings in the Orient Paper 95: The Melchizedek Teachings in the Levant Paper 96: Yahweh_God of the Hebrews Paper 97: Evolution of the God Concept among the Hebrews Paper 98: The Melchizedek Teachings in the Occident Paper 99: Social Problems of Religion Paper 100: Religion in Human Experience Paper 101: The Real Nature of Religion Paper 102: The Foundations of Religious Faith Paper 103: The Reality of Religious Experience Paper 104: Growth of the Trinity Concept Paper 105: Deity and Reality Paper 106: Universe Levels of Reality Paper 107: Origin and Nature of Thought Adjusters Paper 108: Mission and Ministry of Thought Adjusters Paper 109: Relation of Adjusters to Universe Creatures Paper 110: Relation of Adjusters to Individual Mortals Paper 111: The Adjuster and the Soul Paper 112: Personality Survival Paper 113: The Seraphic Guardians of Destiny Paper 114: Seraphic Planetary Government Paper 115: The Supreme Being Paper 116: The Almighty Supreme Paper 117: God the Supreme Paper 118: Supreme and Ultimate_Time and Space Paper 119: The Bestowals of Christ Michael Continued...
8/2/2016 11:37:21 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	* Continued... PART IV. THE LIFE AND TEACHINGS OF JESUS Paper 120: The Bestowal of Michael on Urantia Paper 121: The Times of Michael's Bestowal Paper 122: Birth and Infancy of Jesus Paper 123: The Early Childhood of Jesus Paper 124: The Later Childhood of Jesus Paper 125: Jesus at Jerusalem Paper 126: The Two Crucial Years Paper 127: The Adolescent Years Paper 128: Jesus' Early Manhood Paper 129: The Later Adult Life of Jesus Paper 130: On the Way to Rome Paper 131: The World's Religions Paper 132: The Sojourn at Rome Paper 133: The Return from Rome Paper 134: The Transition Years Paper 135: John the Baptist Paper 136: Baptism and the Forty Days Paper 137: Tarrying Time in Galilee Paper 138: Training the Kingdom's Messengers Paper 139: The Twelve Apostles Paper 140: The Ordination of the Twelve Paper 141: Beginning the Public Work Paper 142: The Passover at Jerusalem Paper 143: Going Through Samaria Paper 144: At Gilboa and in the Decapolis Paper 145: Four Eventful Days at Capernaum Paper 146: First Preaching Tour of Galilee Paper 147: The Interlude Visit to Jerusalem Paper 148: Training Evangelists at Bethsaida Paper 149: The Second Preaching Tour Paper 150: The Third Preaching Tour Paper 151: Tarrying and Teaching by the Seaside Paper 152: Events Leading up to the Capernaum Crisis Paper 153: The Crisis at Capernaum Paper 154: Last Days at Capernaum Paper 155: Fleeing Through Northern Galilee Paper 156: The Sojourn at Tyre and Sidon Paper 157: At Caesarea-Philippi Paper 158: The Mount of Transfiguration Paper 159: The Decapolis Tour Paper 160: Rodan of Alexandria Paper 161: Further Discussions with Rodan Paper 162: At the Feast of Tabernacles Paper 163: Ordination of the Seventy at Magadan Paper 164: At the Feast of Dedication Paper 165: The Perean Mission Begins Paper 166: Last Visit to Northern Perea Paper 167: The Visit to Philadelphia Paper 168: The Resurrection of Lazarus Paper 169: Last Teaching at Pella Paper 170: The Kingdom of Heaven Paper 171: On the Way to Jerusalem Paper 172: Going into Jerusalem Paper 173: Monday in Jerusalem Paper 174: Tuesday Morning in the Temple Paper 175: The Last Temple Discourse Paper 176: Tuesday Evening on Mount Olivet Paper 177: Wednesday, The Rest Day Paper 178: Last Day at the Camp Paper 179: The Last Supper Paper 180: The Farewell Discourse Paper 181: Final Admonitions and Warnings Paper 182: In Gethsemane Paper 183: The Betrayal and Arrest of Jesus Paper 184: Before the Sanhedrin Court Paper 185: The Trial Before Pilate Paper 186: Just Before The Crucifixion Paper 187: The Crucifixion Paper 188: The Time of the Tomb Paper 189: The Resurrection Paper 190: Morontia Appearances of Jesus Paper 191: Appearances to the Apostles and Other Leaders Paper 192: Appearances in Galilee Paper 193: Final Appearances and Ascension Paper 194: Bestowal of the Spirit of Truth Paper 195: After Pentecost Paper 196: The Faith of Jesus
8/3/2016 1:10:18 PM	Jesus is coming again
bigd9832 Chicago, IL 64, joined Oct. 2007	Wow. That's a long list.
8/3/2016 4:54:28 PM	Jesus is coming again
prophetic774 Winter Haven, FL 66, joined Feb. 2011	Quote from ludlowlowell: You don't understand God's mercy, KB. Only REPENTANT sinners receive God's mercy. Only REPENTANT sinners receive God's mercy. Only REPENTANT sinners receive God's mercy. BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY?? Ephesians 1:5-8; 11: In love He predestined us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His GLORIOUS GRACE, which He has freely given us in the One He loves. In Him we have REDEMPTION THROUGH HIS BLOOD, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding.....In Him we were also CHOSEN having been predestined according to the plan of Him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of His will!! Ephesians 2:4-10: Because of His great love for us, God,, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is BY GRACE you have been saved! And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages He might show the incomparable riches of His grace, expressed in His kindness to us in Christ Jesus. For it is BY GRACE you have been saved, through faith-- and this NOT FROM YOURSELVES, it is the GIFT of God--NOT BY WORKS, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do! John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "All that the Father gives Me WILL come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will NEVER drive away...And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose NONE of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day...No one can come to Me UNLESS the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the Last Day...No one can come to Me UNLESS the Father has ENABLED them!" Romans 3:22-25,27,28: This righteousness from God comes through FAITH in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God promised Him as a sacrifice of atonement , through FAITH in His blood!!....Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but that of FAITH! For we maintain that a man is justified by FAITH** apart from observing the law!
8/3/2016 5:16:32 PM	Jesus is coming again
bigd9832 Chicago, IL 64, joined Oct. 2007	I'd still like to know how Jesus is going to have a second coming if He never left.
8/4/2016 6:57:52 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Because He left visibly, and He will return visibly. Spiritually, and in the Eucharist, He is still here.
8/4/2016 7:05:08 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from bigd9832: Wow. That's a long list. Yeah, 196 "papers," each one about 10 pages long with subheadings. In fact, I was thinking of starting a thread about the contents of the book and breaking out the papers into their subheadings, like say this below for the first three papers. If the op (wayn) doesn't mind maybe I'll post them here, three at a time so as not to swamp the thread: PAPER 1 The Universal Father 0. The Universal Father 1. The Father's Name 2. The Reality of God 3. God is Universal Spirit 4. The Mystery of God 5. Personality of the Universal Father 6. Personality in the Universe 7. Spiritual Value of the Personality Concept PAPER 2 The Nature of God 0. The Nature of God 1. The Infinity of God 2. The Father's Eternal Perfection 3. Justice and Righteousness 4. The Divine Mercy 5. The Love of God 6. The Goodness of God 7. Divine Truth and Beauty PAPER 3 The Attributes of God 0. The Attributes of God 1. God's Everywhereness 2. God's Infinite Power 3. God's Universal Knowledge 4. God's Limitlessness 5. The Father's Supreme Rule 6. The Father's Primacy
8/4/2016 7:10:57 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: Because He left visibly, and He will return visibly. Spiritually, and in the Eucharist, He is still here. We don't need your "eucharist" for Jesus to be here in spirit. Mat_18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. Take His hand and follow Jesus, Lud.
8/4/2016 7:59:58 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Jesus' spirit remains here on earth, yes, I agree with you about that.
8/5/2016 8:09:55 AM	Jesus is coming again
bigd9832 Chicago, IL 64, joined Oct. 2007	Quote from ludlowlowell: Because He left visibly, and He will return visibly. Spiritually, and in the Eucharist, He is still here. Jesus left invisibly????? CLV Ac 1:2 until the day on which He was taken up; through holy spirit directing the apostles whom He chooses, CLV Ac 1:9 And saying these things, while they are looking, He was lifted up, and a cloud took Him up from their eyes. ludlow, All you are doing is ignoring the Scriptures. But then, you seem to do that alot. The Catholic church is corrupt.
8/5/2016 8:43:53 AM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	You might need to adjust your spectacles, Bigd. I said Jesus left visibly, not invisibly.
8/5/2016 11:11:33 AM	Jesus is coming again
bigd9832 Chicago, IL 64, joined Oct. 2007	Oh. I must have been up too early. That's right. You said He had to come back to give us a "Public Service Announcement." The Catholic church is corrupt.
8/5/2016 11:16:36 AM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	No, I said He would come back for the General Judgment, also known as the Great White Throne Judgment. You are the one who called it a public service announcement.
8/5/2016 1:18:40 PM	Jesus is coming again
bigd9832 Chicago, IL 64, joined Oct. 2007	Now you are lying... Quote from ludlowlowell: Yes, the souls in both Heaven and Hell will be called back to earth for abrief moment, for apublic announcement by Jesus as to why they went where they went. None of this has to be in the Bible. All it has to do is be in the Bible. That is a direct quote from YOU, ludlow. Complete with the typos. You said, "a public service announcement." I didn't make that up. I was laughing too hard to make anything up. The Catholic church is corrupt.
8/5/2016 1:28:57 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Okay, let's put it this way---you said it first. Jesus returning to earth to make an announcement as to who will be going to Heaven and who to Hell could be diminutively called a public service announcement, but most Christians call it the Second Coming of Christ, the General Judgment, or the Great White Throne Judgment.
8/5/2016 2:38:15 PM	Jesus is coming again
bigd9832 Chicago, IL 64, joined Oct. 2007	I never said, "Jesus returning to earth to make an announcement." YOU said that. I said Jesus was returning to bring the resurrection of all mankind, then judgment. That's a little different than "an announcement." Now I have already proven that you said Jesus is returning to give a "Public Service Announcement." But you have proven nothing. Quit with the BS already and post some facts. Prove it. The Catholic church is corrupt.
8/5/2016 3:57:05 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Okay, upon further reflection, I am going to repudiate my former agreeing with you that Jesus' Second Coming is like a public service announcement. To call this great future event a public service announcement does not really describe it or do it justice. I am willing to admit when I am wrong. Are you?
8/5/2016 10:33:13 PM	Jesus is coming again
prophetic774 Winter Haven, FL 66, joined Feb. 2011	Is the SDA, Louie and Urantia correct when they claim their is no eternal torment in hell for unbelievers but that they will be completely annihilated???? SEVEN times in the NT Jesus stated that there would be WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH in hell!!! In Matthew 8:12; 13:42,50; 22:13; 24:31; 25:30 an Luke13: 28!! Matthew 13:40-43: Jesus says, "So it will be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH!! Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who as ears ,let him hear!!" 666 is called the Beast 36 {6X6} times in Revelation and he will rule every nation tribe and language during the 42 month Great Tribulation just before the Resurrection of Jesus on the Last Day.. {See Rev 13:5-8} Revelation 19:20; 20:10: But, the beast will be captured, and with him the False Prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf {See Rev 13:11-18}. With these signs he will delude those who receive the mark of the Beast and worship his image. The two of them were will be thrown ALIVE into the fiery lake of burning sulfur!!...And the Devil, who deceived them, will be thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the Beast and the False Prophet had been thrown. They will be TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT FOR EVER AND EVER!! Revelation 14:9-11: A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: "If anyone worships the Beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury , which has been thrown full strength into the cup of His wrath. He will be TORMENTED with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their TORMENT rises FOR EVER AND EVER. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the Beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name!!" Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony FOR THE CHURCHES!...I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book. If anyone ADDS anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternal torment in hell}. And if anyone TAKES WORDS AWAY** {like the SDA, Louie and Urantia} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book!!"
8/5/2016 10:56:04 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	[]Quote from prophetic774:[/][]Is the SDA, Louie and Urantia correct when they claim their is no eternal torment in hell for unbelievers but that they will be completely annihilated???? [/] ================================================================================= "The wages of sin is death." Rom 6:23
8/5/2016 11:21:40 PM	Jesus is coming again
prophetic774 Winter Haven, FL 66, joined Feb. 2011	Quote from followjesusonly: []Quote from prophetic774:[/][]Is the SDA, Louie and Urantia correct when they claim their is no eternal torment in hell for unbelievers but that they will be completely annihilated???? [/] ================================================================================= Then fjo quotes: "The wages of sin is death." Rom 6:23 But Louie, fjo and SDA what about the SECOND DEATH?? Revelation 20:13-15: The sea gave up the dead that was in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the SECOND DEATH!!" If anyone's name was not found written in the Book of Life he was thrown into the lake of fire. Revelation 21:8: But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars {Like Obama and Hillary}--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the SECOND DEATH!! Matthew 13:40-43: Jesus says, "So it will be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH!! Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who as ears ,let him hear!!"
8/6/2016 9:51:20 AM	Jesus is coming again
bigd9832 Chicago, IL 64, joined Oct. 2007	Does the pathetic prophetic repeat the same post over and over in several threads? How unorignal. How boring. I guess he runs out of ideas pretty quickly.
8/6/2016 2:37:40 PM	Jesus is coming again
bigd9832 Chicago, IL 64, joined Oct. 2007	ludlow... You tried to blame me for something that YOU said. I proved you wrong. Now you want me to admit I am wrong? Wrong about what?
8/6/2016 3:31:43 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	I want you to admit that you are wrong about the Catholic Church. Wrong about the Trinity. Wrong about the divinity of Christ. Wrong about Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory. Wrong about the Fathers of the Church and the historicity of their writings. Wrong about the Synod of Hippo and about how the Bible came to be. Wrong about your ridiculous and unhistorical statement that the Catholic Church was founded in 1054 and that the first pope was in 900 (how could there be a pope in 900 if there wasn't a Catholic Church until 154 years later?). I grew up Methodist. I was willing to say that my former opinions were wrong. If I can do it, why can't you?
8/6/2016 3:34:19 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	I want a million dollars.
8/6/2016 3:35:18 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Me too.
8/6/2016 3:45:45 PM	Jesus is coming again
bigd9832 Chicago, IL 64, joined Oct. 2007	ludlow... I am NOT wrong. I am NOT wrong about the "trinity." I am NOT wrong about Catholic church I am NOT wrong about "hell," Heaven, or "purgatory." You don't know what I think about the divinity of Christ. I am NOT wrong about Synod of Hippo I am NOT wrong about the Catholic church starting in 1054 ad I am NOT wrong about the first "pope" came around 900 ad. I am not even sure you grew up Methodist. The things you say about the Methodist church are not accurate. I really don't care what you want me to do. I work for Jesus, not you nor the Catholic church. I can understand you admitting that you are wrong. But there is still a whole lot of stuff you need to admit you are wrong about. And this list is a good start. I will never bend to your will or admit you are wrong. I have posted back-up for each and every one of these points. You, of course, have not. Why would you think I was wrong about any of it? Grow up. The Catholic church lies.
8/6/2016 5:25:34 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	The Catholic Church tells the truth. Uncomfortable truth, sometimes, and that is why it is hated so much by worldly souls, but, then again, Jesus was hated for the very same reason.
8/6/2016 5:27:31 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Not.
8/6/2016 10:18:33 PM	Jesus is coming again
prophetic774 Winter Haven, FL 66, joined Feb. 2011	Quote from ludlowlowell: Two different things here, prayer, and forgiveness of sin. Catholics, nust kike Protestants, Old Testament Jews, modern day News, or anyone else, can go to God in prayer any time they wish. And so also forgiveness of venial sin. But for a mortal sin to be forgiven, we must go to a priest. Recap: prayer and forgiveness of sin are two different things. BUT GOD'S WORD TELLS US TO ONLY PRAY TO THE FATHER FOR FORGIVENESS OF SINS!! Matthew 6:5-11 Jesus commands, “When you PRAY, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues {churches} and on the street corners to be seen by men...But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and PRAY to your FATHER,(NOT TO PRIESTS!) who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret will reward you..This, then, is how you should pray: “OUR FATHER {NOT PRIESTS OR MARY} in heaven hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread.” And Luke 11:4 adds, FORGIVE US OUR SINS, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us.” I Timothy 5:5: The widow who is really in need and left all alone puts her hope in God and continues night and day to pray and *ASK GOD* for HELP! I Thessalonians 5:17,18: Pray CONTINUALLY; give thanks in ALL circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. Ephesians 3-19: I pray that out of his glorious riches He may stenghten you with power through His Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, and to know that love which surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of the fullness of God! 2 Thessalonians 1:11,12: We constantly pray for you, that our God may count you worthy of His calling, and that by His power He may fulfill every good purpose of yours and every act prompted by your faith. We pray this that the name of our Lord Jesus may be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ. John 17:15-17: Jesus prayed, “My prayer is not to take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. Sanctify them by the Truth Your Word is Truth!” I Peter 3:12: The eyes of the Lord are on the righteous and HIS EARS are attentive to their prayer. Philippians 4:6: Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving present your requests TO GOD. (NOT TO PRIESTS OR MARY} I John 5:17 This is the confidence we have in approaching God; that if we ask anything ACCORDING TO HIS WILL HE hears us. Matthew 18:10-14: Jesus said, “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.' “But the tax collector stood at a distance, He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.” “I tell you that this man rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted!”

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