Kb, you ask Lud: “What did you ASK "Mary, St. Isaac Jogues and some other saints" Ludlow?” Lud, if you will, I will answer that question. Kb, we ask Mary to pray for us:

“Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy wound Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, Pray for us sinners, now, and at the moment of our death. Amen. [Mary has promised those who are in a state of grace and who devoutly say this prayer and the Rosary that she will come to them at the moment of their death to take them home.]

And we ask Mary to intervene to put down the current world wide revolution in the world and in the Church, for she has given us this prayer and told us the time had come to ask for her intervention:

“August Queen of Heaven, Sovereign Mistress of Angels, thou, who from the beginning hath received from God the power and the mission of crushing the head of Satan, the ancient serpent, we humbly beseech thee to send thy holy legends, that under thy command and by thy power, they may pursue the evil spirits, encounter them on every side, resist their bold attacks, and drive them hence into the abyss of woe. Amen”

And Sly, take the Bible literally, stop twisting the literal meaning in an attempt to support your Liberation Theology. Honest men do not do that. I remind you again, God has commanded: "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, and thou shalt not cover they neighbor's goods." God is commanding you to respect married men's wives, and their private property here. He is not establishing nor endorsing socialism here.And you cannot twist it to mean that he is, unless you redefine every word in it. Give it up Sly, be a man and admit that you are wrong.

Louie

Furch, apostate Catholic who bears the indelible mark of Baptism on your soul...

Furch, you say: “Praying to Mary and other dead humans is an abomination unto the Lord, Louie. Pray to God the Father only.”

Furch, nowhere in the Bible does it say this. And why do you CARE what the Bible says, you don’t go by the Bible, you go instead by the Urantia Book. How many times do I have to tell you this? Are you slow to learn? Stop being a hypocrite.

Furch, nowhere in Mat 6:6 does Our Lord say: “Pray ONLY to the Father”.

You are right that all things ultimately belong to God, and that we own them only temporarily. You can't take it with you, as they say. But we do own them. You have the right to sell your computer orcar, and you don't have to give the money to God or the goernment (you can if you want, of course).

Don't sell your clothes like Kramer did on Seinfeld.

Even the most doctrinaire socialist nations have stores where people can buy things. When they buy these things, they become private property.

Food, as you consumes it, is private property. That bite of chicken, pizza, or corn flakes belongs to you and you alone. Yes it did belong to God but He is giving it to you as your private property---not to the community at large. Two people cannot eat one corn flake at the same time.

God, a universal spirit of Love, the first source and center of all things and beings, the Creator of heaven and earth, has no need for produce or a lamb.

(Gen 4:3) And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.

(Gen 4:4) And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

(Gen 4:5) But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

(Gen 4:6) And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

(Gen 4:7) If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

Notice that Cain was not described as having offered from the fat and first pick but rather from the ground as left overs from harvest. He is then described as more concerned about his status then his contribution to his fellow man.

LORD God was not fooled by Cain's self serving agenda and consequently rebuked the behavior.

ever since the creation of man, God required a way for them to cleanse their sins and impurities from "free will"

God then being God who is the first and last so he knew mankind on terms of "free will" would sin and directly disobey God.

Since the original gospel was for the Hebrews only an animal was good enough to cleanse the sins.

but as the world grew and people became more abundant, God knew using animals would not be practical since HE clearly knew He was allowing Gentiles to be saved.

Christ Jesus became the best form of ALL sacrifices for sins.

for it was a Lamb in the form of a human (so it was for ALL races and creeds and sects of people)(like today).

if God is God as we believe FIRST and LAST from everlasting to everlasting then we have to believe when God decided to create mankind he also knew he would need for Himself to become a sacrificial Lamb.

but in essence, the moment God decided to create mankind and give him "free will", God knew mankind would need an advocate.

In reality, no God did not need a LAMB...but the practice of sacrificing Lambs was another way of teaching how to pray and ask for forgiveness.
examples of going to the high priest and giving up your sin offering was in essence praying to some degree for the Hebrew for forgiveness.

which of course, now we pray to Jesus since he did end the lamb sacrifice by being the last one.

but giving man free will and putting a price on sin did require alleviation of some kind for humanity to be accepted by God.

So as I said, when God made man and He said, I will give him "free will" there became a ransom to pay because man cannot be equal to God spiritually and "free will" is like a calculator adding up your sinful decisions and actions which are unholy and become a debt unto God.

I belong to no sect.

I just see what kind of responses I get.

the Hebrews themselves under the LAW also had free will or they would had never sinned and been stoned to death or suffered some indignation.

and clearly in the torah it is held only to the Hebrew since we know other cultures around then chose their own paths outside the Hebrew God.
in fact, those other cultures never suffered directly until they became enemies of Jehova's people.

so, free will was extended outside the Hebrew environment.

it is still extended to all for we either use free will to choose Christ or we use it to say, no, to Him.

bottom line it requires your will which is not directed by God to choose to serve God.

so if we are serving God on our own account and will then we are practicing God's term of "Free Will".

because knowing the Truth and Light and path to heaven I can still choose to disbelief and turn my directions to hell.

and God cannot stop me one way or another over "free will".

true, but then a good man would choose to follow the steps ordered by God.

the bad men who choose to not follow those steps are also doing it by same motivation (free will to do whatever you want).

1 man free will is to follow the steps ordered by God
1 man free will is to not follow the steps ordered by God.

either way, God cannot force the man to do any of them.
only the man can decide for himself what he wants.