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longbobby
Lufkin, TX
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snowtires88
Angel Fire, NM
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O's administration is in charge at the time, so O gets the blame. Just like Bush did.
I'm fully aware you'd love to lay some type of blame at Obama's feet instead of the men being investigated by our law enforcement and intelligence agencies.
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61falcon
New Hope, PA
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shittsbaby I suggest you hold your breath and wait for the indictment!!
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wvtravlrr
Ravenswood, WV
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I want to see him hang!
Remember Hillary said "If Trump wins we'll all hang from nooses"....
And so it begins......
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longbobby
Lufkin, TX
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61Ratfink: shittsbaby I suggest you hold your breath and wait for the indictment!!
Would you like some cheese with your whine, Mr. Fink?
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annamally
Santa Clarita, CA
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Well , at least Obama HAS a legacy now .
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mustangwriter
Boerne, TX
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Follow
Ben Rhodes
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@brhodes
No President can order a wiretap. Those restrictions were put in place to protect citizens from people like you.
https://
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Obama Advisor Rhodes Is Wrong: The President Can Order A Wiretap, And Why Trump May Have The Last Laugh
Following Trump's stunning allegation that Obama wiretapped the Trump Tower in October of 2016, prior to the presidential election, which may or may not have been sourced from a Breitbart story, numerous Democrats and media pundits have come out with scathing accusations that Trump is either mentally disturbed, or simply has no idea what he is talking about.
The best example of this came from Ben Rhodes, a former senior adviser to President Obama in his role as deputy National Security Advisor, who slammed Trump's accusation, insisting that "No President can order a wiretap. Those restrictions were put in place to protect citizens from people like you." He also said "only a liar" could make the case, as Trump suggested, that Obama wire tapped Trump Tower ahead of the election.
It would appear, however, that Rhodes is wrong, especially as pertains to matters of Foreign Intelligence Surveillance, and its associated FISA court, under which the alleged wiretap of Donald Trump would have been granted, as it pertained specifically to Trump's alleged illicit interactions with Russian entities.
In Chapter 36 of Title 50 of the US Code *War and National Defense", Subchapter 1, Section 1802, we read the following:
(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—
(A) the electronic surveillance is solely directed at—
(i) the acquisition of the contents of communications transmitted by means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title; or
(ii) the acquisition of technical intelligence, other than the spoken communications of individuals, from property or premises under the open and exclusive control of a foreign power, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title;
(B) there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party; and
(C) the proposed minimization procedures with respect to such surveillance meet the definition of minimization procedures under section 1801(h) of this title; and
if the Attorney General reports such minimization procedures and any changes thereto to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at least thirty days prior to their effective date, unless the Attorney General determines immediate action is required and notifies the committees immediately of such minimization procedures and the reason for their becoming effective immediately.
While (B) seems to contradict the underlying permissive nature of Section 1802 as it involves a United States person, what the Snowden affair has demonstrated all too clearly, is how frequently the NSA and FISA court would make US citizens collateral damage. To be sure, many pointed out the fact that Fox News correspondent James Rosen was notoriously wiretapped in 2013 when the DOJ was investigating government leaks. The Associated Press was also infamously wiretapped in relation to the same investigation.
As pertains to Trump, the Guardian reported as much in early January, when news of the alleged anti-Trump dossier by former UK spy Chris Steele broke in January:
The Guardian has learned that the FBI applied for a warrant from the foreign intelligence surveillance (Fisa) court over the summer in order to monitor four members of the Trump team suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials. The Fisa court turned down the application asking FBI counter-intelligence investigators to narrow its focus. According to one report, the FBI was finally granted a warrant in October, but that has not been confirmed, and it is not clear whether any warrant led to a full investigation.
Furthermore, while most Democrats - not to mention former president Obama himself - have been harshly critical of Trump's comments, some such as former Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau was quite clear in his warning to reporters that Obama did not say there was no wiretapping, effectively confirming it:
Jon Favreau
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@jonfavs
I'd be careful about reporting that Obama said there was no wiretapping. Statement just said that neither he nor the WH ordered it.
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longbobby
Lufkin, TX
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Better suck up all the snow cones you can now, Barry. You won't get those in PRISON!
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cafe_express
Mobile, AL
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My man Mustang comes through again!
 
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likedis96
West Bend, WI
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It sounds like they came up with nothing on Trump from the taps and concocted the whole Russia thing to be able to look back and say that they had good reason.
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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And yet another "but...but...Obama" retort. This might be news to various conservatives here, but Obama isn't President anymore. You's need to get a life, or better yet, pay attention to how moron Trump is meanwhile reversing what took the EPA years to set in place. Anyone like to fish? Hunt? Live off the land? Or would you's all rather have a less than minimum paid job picking up dead fish that will soon line our shorelines? And that's just for starters. His progress so far? "0"
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jason_in_tx
Bryan, TX
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It sounds like they came up with nothing on Trump from the taps and concocted the whole Russia thing to be able to look back and say that they had good reason.
Seems like it to you huh? You just say shit to hear yourself talk.
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reginamc
Las Vegas, NV
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And yet another "but...but...Obama" retort. This might be news to various conservatives here, but Obama isn't President anymore. You's need to get a life, or better yet, pay attention to how moron Trump is meanwhile reversing what took the EPA years to set in place. Anyone like to fish? Hunt? Live off the land? Or would you's all rather have a less than minimum paid job picking up dead fish that will soon line our shorelines? And that's just for starters. His progress so far? "0"
Did you know Obama was funneling the proceeds from all the endless nonsense EPA fines into his pet liberal causes? You thought those fees went to the government, didn't you? It's a shakedown.
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scarredandtatto
Oral, SD
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I like how you are trying to make an argument without any logic to come to a conclusion.
If Obama did Wire tap Trump tower?
Why did Obama wire tap Trump tower?
What did Obama discover when he wire tapped Trump tower?
Why didn't Obama disclose this discovery during the election?
Why didn't Obama disclose this discovery after the election?
If Obama did not reveal that he had wire tapped Trump tower?
How did Trump find out about the wire tap?
Why is Trump revealing that Trump tower was wire tapped if he in fact is guilty of any crime?
Wouldn't Trump want to hide the whole incident?
OBAMA didn't do it
You really need to learn process
And the NYT has no evidence Trump had connections with the Russians, but they run with the story anyway.
Do you smoke crack?
 repeating it over and over doesn't make it go away.
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likedis96
West Bend, WI
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The Obama administration was literally behind the entire thing. Read up on it!
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scarredandtatto
Oral, SD
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OHHHHH!! Now it's the Obama administration!
You sound stupid.
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likedis96
West Bend, WI
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Not as stupid as a grown a** man refusing to look at the facts or educate himself. Who do you think runs the Obama administration? I will spell it out for you. O B A M A
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longbobby
Lufkin, TX
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Did you know Obama was funneling the proceeds from all the endless nonsense EPA fines into his pet liberal causes? You thought those fees went to the government, didn't you? It's a shakedown.
Not to mention 0bama stealing billions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to fund 0BUMasCare subsidies so blacks and illegal immigrants could have free healthcare.
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scarredandtatto
Oral, SD
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OK
Fact of the matter is IDGAF. Someone found cause, filed for a warrant, it was granted and TAH DAAAAAAAAAAH...IF that's what happened. I've been outside all day and haven't had a chance to catch up on the news. I'm ASSUMING from this thread that there was a warrant found?
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61falcon
New Hope, PA
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What I want to see is the U.S.Congress demand of TRUMP what proof he has that Obama wire tapped his offices in Trump Tower.He is constantly making OUTLANISH claims and statements like claiming millions voted illegally without producing one shred of evidence.We as the American public need to DEMAND he provide proof of his outlandish bullshit claims, and if he cannot he should be criminally charged.If the public cannot cry Fire in a crowded theater, the President of our country cannot make outlandish claims without repercussions.
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longbobby
Lufkin, TX
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Proof, you say?
You mean "probable cause" for an arrest?
Is that what you want? To see 0BUMa arrested?
I do. Everyone does.
Guess what?
"Probably cause" for an arrest is NEVER shown to the world BEFORE said arrest takes place.
Dumb*ss!
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61falcon
New Hope, PA
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If Trump has proof that Obama wiretapped his offices in Trump tower then Obama WOULD BE ARRESTED, BUT if he does not have proof he TRUMP should be arrested!!!
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longbobby
Lufkin, TX
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All the proof will be shown in COURT at 0BUMa's TRIAL.
You need not worry about THAT!
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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Did you know Obama was funneling the proceeds from all the endless nonsense EPA fines into his pet liberal causes? You thought those fees went to the government, didn't you? It's a shakedown.
And those liberal causes are? .. If your going to create a spin of BS, the least you could do is offer details that are a bit more convincing. Which by the way, is something that seems to escape most all your silly claims. Um, fines to fee's? .. Right.
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reginamc
Las Vegas, NV
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And those liberal causes are? .. If your going to create a spin of BS, the least you could do is offer details that are a bit more convincing. Which by the way, is something that seems to escape most all your silly claims. Um, fines to fee's? .. Right.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/522
Research it yourself, gotta go to work. 
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reginamc
Las Vegas, NV
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http://www.freedomworks.org/content/support-stop-settlement-slush-funds-act-hr-732
http://www.atr.org/atr-supports-stop-settlement-slush-funds-act-2017-hr-732
https://bunkerville.wordpress.com/2014/07/14/holder-fines-bank-9-billion-guess-where-the-fine-money-goes/
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sdgncalix3
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jitssbaby617
Roslindale, MA
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online now!
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Looks like obamas black a** is going to be investigated
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sdgncalix3
Palm Bay, FL
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That is kind of gross.
Why would you want to investigate his "ass"?
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/522
Research it yourself, gotta go to work.
I'm already familiar with all the guff coming from conservatives like (David Porter) who are out to either remove or force each state to oversee their own EPA management. That Obama flat out set aside appropriations via "fines or fee's" in support of some liberal agenda is nothing but another "but but, Obama .. but, the Constitution" round of clap trap. Fact is, the EPA creates billions of dollars of business for the economy each year. Private contractors get the job of building the water and wastewater systems cities need. Many private contractors are also hired directly by EPA to support some of its initiatives. Also at stake are hundreds of thousands of jobs in the private sector such as fisheries and tourism, which if lost would place a huge blow to the economy. Small regulations or regulations on small business are the most significant. If cut, tremendous progress would be undone to an agency that simply doesn't operate without considerable industry and State input.
For a better perspective, i'll quote Bob Brennis, former product manager, special assistant at U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (1986-2005)
""Those who want to shut down EPA often mention overreach by the Agency, in particular citing regulations that they believe go beyond the pale.
The bottom line is, that since the time President Nixon first formed the EPA, the Agency has taken on numerous responsibilities that would have to be handed off to various other departments of the federal government if the Agency were abolished. Who would do pesticide registration so we could be sure we are not being poisoned with Pesticides? Who would maintain food additive limits to those pesticides? Who would ensure that water standards were kept? That the US had any data on air quality? That drinking water had clear standards? Who would ensure that hazardous substances were identified and also not allowed into the US? Who would handle a variety of possible environmental and human health issues that periodically come up in the US, such a spill of hazardous substances in a shared water system?…..and I am only touching on the issues I know about - there are many more factors that would need to be considered. Congress does have many laws in the books asking the executive to perform duties that have been assigned to the EPA - It is hard to imagine where those could be carried out without an EPA.
I am sure that this administration will do all it can to eliminate regulations that they believe are excessive. From my perspective it is a balancing act to try to craft regulations that are not too restrictive to business interests and still protect the environment and human health. Much of the hoopla regarding overreach is, in my opinion, way overblown. The Agency is a bureaucracy that is sometimes inefficient and unfriendly like any other bureaucracy, but without EPA, it is hard to imagine how maintaining a healthy environment for all of us will be carefully overseen.""
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mustangwriter
Boerne, TX
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Looks like a lot of bugging took place!
Former Trump Campaign Manager Corey Lewandowski told Judge Jeanine on Saturday that the Obama Administration wiretapped sitting US Senator Jeff Sessions while he was still a sitting senator!
Lewandowski: What we’ve seen from the previous administration is that they did spend time listening to conversations between then Senator Jeff Sessions and the ambassador to Russia while he was in his US Senate office. If that were to take place which supposedly did take place, what other conversations did they listen in on?
Judge Jeanine: Whoa, you’re saying they were listening to conversations between then Senator Sessions and the Russian Ambassador Kislyak or are you talking about Mike Flynn and Kislyak?
Lewandowski: No, I’m talking about Jeff Sessions.
Watch the vid: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/lewandowski-obama-bugged-senator-sessions-still-senator-last-year-video/
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citylights01
Annapolis, MD
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There was definitely evidence of wire tapping of trump tower... evidence has lead back to obama .. you gotta go
Post the proof that it lead back to Obama.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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Mark Levin PROVES Obama Wiretapping on President Donald Trump | Fox & Friends 3/5/17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91fNfGjZdM0
https://youtu.be/91fNfGjZdM0
Published on Mar 5, 2017
Mark Levin interview on Fox News Fox & Friends on March 5, 2017 3/5/17 and provides proof of Obama Administration Wiretapping Spying by FBI and NSA. Mark Levin proves wiretap trump tower.
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_Flapjack_
Bloomingdale, GA
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Post the proof that it lead back to Obama.
Why? You wont believe it anyway.
Did you read what Clarity posted?
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haslefree
Marietta, GA
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Trump's not a politician, he's a successful CEO in a cut throat business. A winner.
Leftist operatives have underestimated him from day one. He beat a billion dollar campaign by supposedly the smartest woman in the world, for a fraction of the dough.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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Why? You wont believe it anyway.
Did you read what Clarity posted?
lmao! citydimwitlites has me blocked....
she didnt like the facts when posed to her directly before she blocked me....lol
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progrocknic
Mount Arlington, NJ
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Why? You wont believe it anyway.
Did you read what Clarity posted?
Yeah. You really have to love some people's definition of proof. Now I remember why I hate YouTube video evidence, lol.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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Yeah. You really have to love some people's definition of proof. Now I remember why I hate YouTube video evidence, lol.
yeah....
cuz YOU cant handle the truth, either!
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progrocknic
Mount Arlington, NJ
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yeah....
cuz YOU cant handle the truth, either!
Sure sure. Whatever you need to tell yourself to feel more sane.
Frankly, I don't know why everyone is jumping the gun. Trump said what he said. I'm sure that the White House will be explaining further in the coming weeks.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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Mark Levin PROVES Obama Wiretapping on President Donald Trump | Fox & Friends 3/5/17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91fNfGjZdM0
https://youtu.be/91fNfGjZdM0
Published on Mar 5, 2017
Mark Levin interview on Fox News Fox & Friends on March 5, 2017 3/5/17 and provides proof of Obama Administration Wiretapping Spying by FBI and NSA. Mark Levin proves wiretap trump tower.
and most of levins 'proof' comes from biasedlooneylefty sources! and still, the
lieinglooneyleftyliberalsocialistprogressivedimdumdems cant handle the truth!
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progrocknic
Mount Arlington, NJ
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Apperently the word proof is up for interpretation.
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longbobby
Lufkin, TX
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The current MSM/Democrat/k*ke defense of Obama is that he didn’t do it because it would be illegal.
This is like being accused of murder and saying “oh I couldn’t have killed that man – it’s illegal to murder people.”
It’s utter nonsense.
I assume that everyone in the media and the Democrats all know that this is real. Obama did order the illegal surveillance of Donald Trump prior to the 2016 election.
Trump has put them in an extremely difficult position by making the statement and waiting to present the evidence. Even though they know it’s true, they have no choice but to claim he’s lying. He is going to allow them to continue to make this claim, for however long, and then present the evidence.
And then what?
They would have simply lied about it for however long.
As such, Obama and the media are buried in the same grave.
Because after this is out, the media will have no choice but to either
a) condemn Obama as a abdominal criminal, or
b) defend spying on political opposition.
This is a Chinese finger trap.
Trump will burn everything down, and he will build a new order in its place.
The entire Russian conspiracy hoax is a non-starter. The usefulness of it is simply to keep Trump bogged down in scandal.
This wire-tap scandal, however, is serious as a heart attack.
The tables just got flipped all the hell over.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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apparently, prognosticator cant handle the truth any better than citydimwitlites or
failcon
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progrocknic
Mount Arlington, NJ
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At least no one has resorted to 5 year old, childish name calling tactics.
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mr_bad_robot
Cincinnati, OH
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It's now proven beyond all doubt that the wire tap occurred. All gov. agencies that could have carried this out reports to Obama. The buck stops at Obama's desk.
This is not the first time something like this has happened under his watch. Obama knew that Merkel's phone was tapped. The CIA hacked computers of Senators even though they lied about it for over 1 year later they came out and admitted it.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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At least no one has resorted to 5 year old, childish name calling tactics.
ohemmgeee!!!
here we go again....
is citydimwitlites your buttbuddy????
holy cow! reminiscence
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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It's now proven beyond all doubt that the wire tap occurred. All gov. agencies that could have carried this out reports to Obama. The buck stops at Obama's desk.
This is not the first time something like this has happened under his watch. Obama knew that Merkel's phone was tapped. The CIA hacked computers of Senators even though they lied about it for over 1 year later they came out and admitted it.
reporter mike rosen can also attest!
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longbobby
Lufkin, TX
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The current MSM/Democrat/k*ke defense of Obama is that he didn’t do it because it would be illegal.
This is like being accused of murder and saying “oh I couldn’t have killed that man – it’s illegal to murder people.”
It’s utter nonsense.
I assume that everyone in the media and the Democrats all know that this is real. Obama did order the illegal surveillance of Donald Trump prior to the 2016 election.
Trump has put them in an extremely difficult position by making the statement and waiting to present the evidence. Even though they know it’s true, they have no choice but to claim he’s lying. He is going to allow them to continue to make this claim, for however long, and then present the evidence.
And then what?
They would have simply lied about it for however long.
As such, Obama and the media are buried in the same grave.
Because after this is out, the media will have no choice but to either
a) condemn Obama as a abdominal criminal, or
b) defend spying on political opposition.
This is a Chinese finger trap.
Trump will burn everything down, and he will build a new order in its place.
The entire Russian conspiracy hoax is a non-starter. The usefulness of it is simply to keep Trump bogged down in scandal.
This wire-tap scandal, however, is serious as a heart attack.
The tables just got flipped all the hell over.
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progrocknic
Mount Arlington, NJ
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Just off the top of your head, an estimate....... about how many times a day do people suggest you "seek help"?
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| 3/5/2017 10:48:22 AM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010
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Trump is stupid and a liar.
Okay. End of thread.
Next alternative news story.
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| 3/5/2017 10:53:17 AM |
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jitssbaby617
Roslindale, MA
38, joined Jun. 2014
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What jail do ex presidents go to? Should be interesting
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| 3/5/2017 10:54:46 AM |
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progrocknic
Mount Arlington, NJ
33, joined Dec. 2012
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What jail do ex presidents go to? Should be interesting
Same as your wine business. Imaginary.
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| 3/5/2017 10:58:40 AM |
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
66, joined Oct. 2008
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Why yes, Obama did try to wiretap Trump Tower, and here are the details
Published by: Dan Calabrese on Sunday March 05th, 2017
The timing of Trump's tweet is a little strange, but the facts are plain as day.
I don't really know why Donald Trump decided yesterday to tweet about the Obama Administration trying to wiretap Trump Tower. But what was weird about it was not the content of the tweet. It was the timing. That this happened is not only beyond dispute, but it's been in the public's eye for weeks.
On January 17, Andrew McCarthy discussed it extensively in National Review. He referenced it again this past week in a piece about this whole Russian nonsense and Jeff Sessions:
To rehearse briefly, in the weeks prior to June 2016, the FBI did a preliminary investigation, apparently based on concerns about a server at Trump Tower that allegedly had some connection to Russian financial institutions. Even if there were such a connection, it is not a crime to do business with Russian banks — lots of Americans do. It should come as no surprise, then, that the FBI found no impropriety and did not proceed with a criminal investigation.
What is surprising, though, is that the case was not closed down.
Instead, the Obama Justice Department decided to pursue the matter as a national-security investigation under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). In June, it sought the FISA court’s permission to conduct surveillance on a number of Trump associates — and perhaps even Trump himself. It has been reported that Trump was “named” in the application, but it is not publicly known whether he (a) was named as a proposed wiretap target, or (b) was just mentioned in passing in the application.
Understand the significance of this: Only the Justice Department litigates before the FISA court; this was not some rogue investigators; this was a high level of Obama’s Justice Department — the same institution that, at that very moment, was whitewashing the Clinton e-mail scandal. And when Justice seeks FISA surveillance authority, it is essentially telling that court that there is probable cause to believe that the targets have acted as agents of a foreign power — that’s the only basis for getting a FISA warrant.
In this instance, the FISA court apparently found the Obama Justice Department’s presentation to be so weak that it refused to authorize the surveillance. That is telling, because the FISA court is generally very accommodating of government surveillance requests. Unwilling to take no for an answer, the Obama Justice Department came back to the FISA court in October — i.e., in the stretch run of the presidential campaign. According to various reports (and mind you, FISA applications are classified, so the leaks are illegal), the October application was much narrower than the earlier one and did not mention Donald Trump. The FISA Court granted this application, and for all we know the investigation is continuing.
So not only do we know that Obama's Justice Department sought permission from the FISA court to wiretap Trump Tower, but on its second try, they got it. And we don't know for sure that the wiretaps were ever discontinued.
So when left-wing Washington Post propagandist Chris Cillizza huffs that the "burden of proof" is on Trump to show that any of this happened, someone might want to forward this link to Cillizza - although I suppose he and others of his ilk may reject it out of hand because it comes from the conservative National Review. It's not our fault if NR covers the misdeeds of the Obama Administration and the Washington Post refuses to even do any reporting to find out if they're true.
Now, having said all that, I do think it's fair to scrutinize Trump's characterization of what happened. The mere fact that the Justice Department sought a wiretap and went through legal channels to get it does not prove this is Nixon's plumbers bugging the Watergate. But when a sitting Democrat administration wants to wiretap the offices of the Republican nominee during an election campaign, that should be the sort of thing that at the very least invites lots of scrutiny.
Instead, the media are insisting they will treat the whole thing as a big nothingburger unless Trump himself proves it is more than that. Do you think for even one second they would approach it this way if the party affiliations in this situation were the opposite of what they are?
You know damn well what the answer to that question is.
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longbobby
Lufkin, TX
56, joined Aug. 2010
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What jail do ex presidents go to? Should be interesting
Who said anything about jail?
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| 3/5/2017 10:59:54 AM |
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muldoon1959
Vallejo, CA
57, joined Feb. 2008
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It is pretty amusing isn't it.
Presidents can't order wiretaps.
There's a law against that.
It's there specifically to prevent
the kind of "McCarthyism" Trump is
whining about.
So if there really is a wiretap, that means
some federal judge ruled that there was probable
cause of a crime being committed and issued a warrant.
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| 3/5/2017 11:03:10 AM |
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
66, joined Oct. 2008
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Just off the top of your head, an estimate....... about how many times a day do people suggest you "seek help"?
once again....
reminiscent......
when they run out of debatable issues, they resort to derogatory incrimination.
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| 3/5/2017 11:03:35 AM |
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jitssbaby617
Roslindale, MA
38, joined Jun. 2014
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Who said anything about jail?
Lol yes!
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| 3/5/2017 11:05:20 AM |
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haslefree
Marietta, GA
58, joined Aug. 2011
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President Trump wouldn't say anything if proof didn't exist. He knows media, news cycles. He'll let the pundits demand proof for a day or so, keep it top story in the news. Then as it begins to wane, he'll release a bit of proof and BOOM, its top of the media again for another few days...
Till he's done with them and ODumDum.
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mr_bad_robot
Cincinnati, OH
42, joined Jul. 2014
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Funny thing is there is now enough evidence for FISA to issue a warrant to wiretap Obama's phones.
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muldoon1959
Vallejo, CA
57, joined Feb. 2008
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President Trump wouldn't say anything if proof didn't exist.
Seriously?
Trump is constantly making claims with no evidence.
And he's constantly being debunked for his bullshit.
Which leaves you constantly making shit up and
grasping at whatever straw you can to believe that trump was 'right all along'.
[Edited 3/5/2017 11:09:49 AM ]
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