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blake6972
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
Us. The majority.

Are you sure you aren't trying to convince anyone?


They are interesting "facts".

You have no idea what I believe.

To me, you have no idea what the truth is.
You have been brainwashed. Easily manipulated.


Did I state that I know what you believe?

The majority of "us"?
A little vague don't you think?

How have I've been brainwashed?
Maybe your the one who is.

Me easily manipulated...

OK bandwagon.com.

Why don't you tell "us" what you believe.

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3/9/2017 12:34:15 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
sdgncalix3
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Quote from blake6972:
Did I state that I know what you believe?

The majority of "us"?
A little vague don't you think?

How have I've been brainwashed?
Maybe your the one who is.

Me easily manipulated...

OK bandwagon.com.

Why don't you tell "us" what you believe.



No. Not specifically.

You are the only person I have ever heard say the world is only about 6000 years old.
I've met a lot of people in 43 years.

We learned about the universe in school. They never said anything about it being 6000 years old.


You have been brainwashed by your "facts"'. Somewhere along the way you were taught or learned these facts from some false information.

Yes. Easily manipulated. I knew you would post in here.

I wanted to see the stuff that you posted and watch people come in and tell you that you are wrong.


It doesn't matter what I believe.

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stargazzer
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No one seems to know other than it is older than most comprehend

3/9/2017 12:38:48 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
beanhammer
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
I grew up in Dallas. I don't remember that.

Dinosaurs and humans at the same time.


http://www.creationevidence.org/excavations/excavations.php

Been there seen it and met with the scientist personally

3/9/2017 12:39:35 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
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Quote from catlover418:
It's not in Dallas. It is 52 miles southwest of Fort Worth in Somervell County. I've been there several times.

The name of the fossil place is Fossil Rim Wildlife Center.



Creation museum. Oh boy.


Go to the Perot museum



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3/9/2017 12:42:43 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
beanhammer
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
Creation museum. Oh boy.


The museum is right next
To the river where the prints
Are

3/9/2017 12:48:47 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
sdgncalix3
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Scientific data dictated by religion.

No thanks.

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Quote from catlover418:
Yes. More proof of creation.


It is absolutely amazing that you are actually this dumb. I'm not sure whether it's an argument for or against private schools. If you went to public schools, clearly they failed you and many others. But then you also argue in favor of private schools while at the same time thinking dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time. So someone who failed to learn about science thinks kids would be better off if they went to private schools.

And just in case anyone was wondering, from wiki:

The Paluxy River trackways have gained a lot of attention from supporters of creation and evolution alike.[4] Some claimed that some footprints were made by giant humans who lived at the same time as the dinosaurs who created the other tracks.[6] John Whitcomb, Henry Morris, John Morris, and Carl Baugh all are current or former proponents of the human footprint theory.[4] Though there are some that still cite the trackways as evidence against the geological time scale, the general consensus is that all of the human tracks were either fake or interpreted incorrectly.[4][7][8]

Some of the tracks were fake, carved by locals to sell during the Great Depression.[3] These footprints do not represent the way human footprints would look in mud; they also do not accurately reflect the changes in the way giant humans would walk as a result of their size.[6] Other footprints were genuine tracks, but showed features inconsistent with human footprints. Supporters of the human footprint theory claimed that the tracks showed authentic mud “push-ups” and that the time period for the human and dinosaur trackways had to be the same as the trails intersected. In 1986, Glen Kuban conducted research on the trackways. He found that most tracks formed a wide “V” at the end and showed grooves in places that were not consistent with those in a human footprint. Kuban determined that the tracks were made by bipedal dinosaurs with three toes. These particular tracks showed the dinosaur walking on the soles of its feet rather than on its toes, as is usually found in tracks.[7] Evidence based in human anatomy also refutes the claim that the footprints are of human origin. The foot length measurements were used to calculate approximate heights of the humans; the pace and stride lengths do not match these calculated heights, making it highly unlikely that the tracks are human in origin. The measurements do fit the known values for bipedal dinosaurs.[6]

Other theories include random natural and erosion patterns resembling human footprints, trace fossils of burrows of small invertebrates, severely eroded or partial tracks, and other impressions known to occur in dinosaur trackways caused by different body parts.[6,7,8]



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stargazzer
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
Scientific data dictated by religion.

No thanks.

I'm pretty sure religion did not start on day one and just how many came after and died before what we do know today

3/9/2017 1:02:49 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
sdgncalix3
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I'm sure it didn't either.


Quite a few.

You have to remember the "church" use to control everything.

3/9/2017 1:08:55 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

stargazzer
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
I'm sure it didn't either.


Quite a few.

You have to remember the "church" use to control everything.

But that's only ben in the last blink of an eye so to speak history wise

3/9/2017 1:09:58 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
sdgncalix3
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Quote from stargazzer:
But that's only ben in the last blink of an eye so to speak history wise



You lost me.

What are you trying to tell me?

3/9/2017 1:13:06 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

blake6972
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
No. Not specifically.

You are the only person I have ever heard say the world is only about 6000 years old.
I've met a lot of people in 43 years.

We learned about the universe in school. They never said anything about it being 6000 years old.


You have been brainwashed by your "facts"'. Somewhere along the way you were taught or learned these facts from some false information.

Yes. Easily manipulated. I knew you would post in here.

I wanted to see the stuff that you posted and watch people come in and tell you that you are wrong.


It doesn't matter what I believe.


I said in the past that I believe the Earth is around 6,000 to 10,000 years old.

I posted in here because you wanted me too.

Nope, not easily manipulated, but you might want to check yourself.

You shouldn't believe everything you learned in school.

Oh, and just because people may not agree with me doesn't mean I am wrong.

Not one person has refuted the facts that I have posted, not even you and it is your thread.

I haven't even begun.

Your last sentence might as well say, I am a coward and won't say what I believe, because I fear people might make fun of me.

So yeah, you do care, stop fooling yourself.





[Edited 3/9/2017 1:14:01 PM ]

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Blake is a generation-x!

And all this time, I thought the Generation-X people thought that the world began when they were born!

3/9/2017 1:23:03 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
sdgncalix3
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Quote from blake6972:
I said in the past that I believe the Earth is around 6,000 to 10,000 years old.

I posted in here because you wanted me too.

Nope, not easily manipulated, but you might want to check yourself.

You shouldn't believe everything you learned in school.

Oh, and just because people may not agree with me doesn't mean I am wrong.

Not one person has refuted the facts that I have posted, not even you and it is your thread.

I haven't even begun.

Your last sentence might as well say, I am a coward and won't say what I believe, because I fear people might make fun of me.

So yeah, you do care, stop fooling yourself.




So now you believe? It's not fact?

I knew you would post in here.

I can do it again.


You shouldn't believe everything you read in a religious text. You also shouldn't try to make up your own interpretation to fit your agenda.


I'll admit. I'm too lazy to read some shit and post it here.

I believe in science. Facts. Things that can be proved. Yes. BBT is a theory. But a damn good one. I would go as far as to say, A God created the Big Bang or the universe.

Dinosaurs and people didn't walk the earth together. That's asinine.

I don't care if people here believe me or not. It's not that important.

I don't care.

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scarredandtatto
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GO BLAKE GO!!!





School them dummies!!!

3/9/2017 1:32:38 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
sdgncalix3
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Do you believe the earth is flat as well?

3/9/2017 1:33:46 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

scarredandtatto
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SAY NO BLAKE!!! It's a trick question!!!

3/9/2017 1:34:25 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
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[Edited 3/9/2017 1:34:46 PM ]

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nuffan
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No more Blake and his ALTERNATIVE FACTS to deal with...probably should have just done that a few years ago....lol

3/9/2017 1:45:18 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

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Quote from beanhammer:
A non imbedded teacher is what we needed to stop corruption.

Is it possible man is 6000 years old?

Which man?

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fishnthec
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Look! I am going to defend Blake!

Blake has the freedom of religion to believe whatever he chooses to believe!

And we should all encourage him to believe whatever he chooses to believe, as long as he don't hurt himself or others.

We are going to have to be more tolerant of others and show respect for all people and their beliefs even though they may or may not agree with our own.

It's about tolerance and respect!

This is America, and that is a freedom we want to protect!

3/9/2017 1:56:36 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
beanhammer
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Quote from lobo_corazon:
Which man?

Actually I would say the first woman the one that the dna testing traces back to the one
Individial they call eve

3/9/2017 1:57:20 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

nuffan
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Quote from fishnthec:
Look! I am going to defend Blake!

Blake has the freedom of religion to believe whatever he chooses to believe!

And we should all encourage him to believe whatever he chooses to believe, as long as he don't hurt himself or others.

We are going to have to be more tolerant of others and show respect for all people and their beliefs even though they may or may not agree with our own.

It's about tolerance and respect!

This is America, and that is a freedom we want to protect!



Certainly...I agree he has a right to believe and follow whatever religion he chooses...

He is NOT however allowed his OWN facts...

His religion is a belief...and requires FAITH...

There are no FACTS in religion...if there were there would be no need for faith...

3/9/2017 1:59:06 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
beanhammer
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That is correct dna goes back
To one specific female that her genes are passed down to every individual.

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fishnthec
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You know, we could all be be better stewards of Democracy right here in the forum by the way we show respect for and tolerate others around us.

I'm ready when you guys are!

3/9/2017 2:01:21 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

scarredandtatto
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Quote from fishnthec:
Look! I am going to defend Blake!

Blake has the freedom of religion to believe whatever he chooses to believe!

And we should all encourage him to believe whatever he chooses to believe, as long as he don't hurt himself or others.

We are going to have to be more tolerant of others and show respect for all people and their beliefs even though they may or may not agree with our own.

It's about tolerance and respect!

This is America, and that is a freedom we want to protect!







You're right.

3/9/2017 2:03:06 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
haslefree
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This post is dead on. Well stated and so true!



Quote from blake6972:
Mind your own business unless you would like to refute my facts with your opinions.

Why are you so negative all the time city?

Don't worry, I already know, I just wanted to read how you would answer ,but I forgot you don't answer questions. Most trolls don't.

Now move along city and be a good girl.



3/9/2017 2:07:24 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

fishnthec
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Quote from nuffan:
Certainly...I agree he has a right to believe and follow whatever religion he chooses...

He is NOT however allowed his OWN facts...

His religion is a belief...and requires FAITH...

There are no FACTS in religion...if there were there would be no need for faith...


Sure, I'm a proud American.

I think we get it right. Here in America, "Freedom Of Religion" also means "Freedom" from religion!

Now having said that, I'll refrain from using, "Thank God" as a closing statement, and just say, "Thanks Forefathers of our Constitution"!

3/9/2017 2:07:34 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

progrocknic
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Quote from fishnthec:
Look! I am going to defend Blake!

Blake has the freedom of religion to believe whatever he chooses to believe!

And we should all encourage him to believe whatever he chooses to believe, as long as he don't hurt himself or others.

We are going to have to be more tolerant of others and show respect for all people and their beliefs even though they may or may not agree with our own.

It's about tolerance and respect!

This is America, and that is a freedom we want to protect!


Freedom is good to protect. Stupidity not so much. You have the right to be an ignorant moron, but why would you want to?

3/9/2017 2:08:50 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
haslefree
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At 2:02 pm you told Manic to F**k you in bold letters. you're either hypocrite or your meds finally kicked in.


Quote from fishnthec:
You know, we could all be be better stewards of Democracy right here in the forum by the way we show respect for and tolerate others around us.

I'm ready when you guys are!


3/9/2017 2:11:37 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
citylights01
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Quote from fishnthec:
Look! I am going to defend Blake!

Blake has the freedom of religion to believe whatever he chooses to believe!

And we should all encourage him to believe whatever he chooses to believe, as long as he don't hurt himself or others.

We are going to have to be more tolerant of others and show respect for all people and their beliefs even though they may or may not agree with our own.

It's about tolerance and respect!

This is America, and that is a freedom we want to protect!


He certainly does have the freedom to believe what he chooses. That doesn't mean anyone needs to encourage people to not believe facts.

3/9/2017 2:12:47 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
citylights01
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Quote from haslefree:
At 2:02 pm you told Manic to F**k you in bold letters. you're either hypocrite or your meds finally kicked in.


Quote from fishnthec:
You know, we could all be be better stewards of Democracy right here in the forum by the way we show respect for and tolerate others around us.

I'm ready when you guys are!


What did manic say before being told "f**k you?"

3/9/2017 2:30:18 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
beanhammer
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Quote from fishnthec:
You know, we could all be be better stewards of Democracy right here in the forum by the way we show respect for and tolerate others around us.

I'm ready when you guys are!


You have it i stand behind
Your truce.

3/9/2017 2:34:42 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

scarredandtatto
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hypocrite/meds kicked in... like those are the ONLY 2 options in the world.

3/9/2017 2:35:32 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
beanhammer
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Quote from citylights01:
He certainly does have the freedom to believe what he chooses. That doesn't mean anyone needs to encourage people to not believe facts.


Fact.
dna leads back to one mother

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sdgncalix3
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So brother from another mother is false?

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fishnthec
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Quote from beanhammer:
You have it i stand behind
Your truce.


Thanks Beans!

Politics is a good thing. It is a sharing of ideas.

Our forefathers did everything imaginably possible on paper in the form of a Constitution, with all the checks and balances in place, for future generations to always be able to work things out among ourselves as a democracy.

And I will always respect anyone and everyone who has an opinion to share!

3/9/2017 2:47:55 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

blake6972
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Quote from nuffan:
No more Blake and his ALTERNATIVE FACTS to deal with...probably should have just done that a few years ago....lol


Sorry silly boy, no alternative facts here.

You couldn't refute the several easy ones that I posted.

You can't handle the truth.
PERIOD.

Turn in your man card on your way out.
You have been defeated.


Oh, and one more thing money man, I have never seen a hearse with a luggage rack.




@scar
Please post more eye candy.

@city
Refute my facts if you have an issue, or stop flapping your jaws about it.

3/9/2017 2:52:51 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

fishnthec
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Quote from haslefree:
At 2:02 pm you told Manic to F**k you in bold letters. you're either hypocrite or your meds finally kicked in.


Quote from fishnthec:
You know, we could all be be better stewards of Democracy right here in the forum by the way we show respect for and tolerate others around us.

I'm ready when you guys are!


Yes, I do have a very low tolerance for hatemongers!

It is one of my weaknesses.

Sometimes I want to fight fire- with fire!

And you are very right, and thanks for pointing it out! Two wrongs never make anything right!

3/9/2017 2:54:06 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
cupocheer
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No comparison.

Which one are you interested in?

3/9/2017 2:54:45 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

scarredandtatto
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Quote from blake6972:
@scar
Please post more eye candy



YOU GOT IT DUDE!!


Eyecandy for blake!









Enjoy!

3/9/2017 2:56:01 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

blake6972
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Quote from nuffan:
Certainly...I agree he has a right to believe and follow whatever religion he chooses...

He is NOT however allowed his OWN facts...

His religion is a belief...and requires FAITH...

There are no FACTS in religion...if there were there would be no need for faith...


In this thread I presented facts. No religious facts.
If a religious teaching happens to line up than so be it.

Man made religion, not God.



I don't have a religion.
Plus I don't need you or Joe Shmoe to tell me what I can and cannot do.

Did you run out of feminine hygiene products lil' nuffy?


That was a test scar, I knew you would do that.



[Edited 3/9/2017 2:57:35 PM ]

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scarredandtatto
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And I know that I passed!!!










Enjoy! I'm glad that I could help!!

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sdgncalix3
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How Old is the Universe?

Until recently, astronomers estimated that the Big Bang occurred between 12 and 14 billion years ago. To put this in perspective, the Solar System is thought to be 4.5 billion years old and humans have existed as a genus for only a few million years. Astronomers estimate the age of the universe in two ways: 1) by looking for the oldest stars; and 2) by measuring the rate of expansion of the universe and extrapolating back to the Big Bang; just as crime detectives can trace the origin of a bullet from the holes in a wall.

3/9/2017 3:10:47 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
sdgncalix3
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10. Theology vs. History: A basic error made by creationists is a failure to differentiate between theology and history. One may write a text with true theological insights, even if the events narrated in the text never actually occurred. Thus, it may very well be true, as Genesis chapter one suggests, that all of creation depends on God, that God brings order out of chaos, that humans can somehow be said to be in the “image” of God, and, that God has judged creation to be good. Each one of these theological claims is importantly different from some of the major cosmogonies (stories of creation) that were common at the time the text was likely written. Therefore, the text represents a theological argument, not a historical account. Importantly, if the Bible is read as theology rather than history, what becomes important in reading the Bible is theological understanding, not historical accounts. To be sure, there are obviously historical references in the Bible. However, this does not mean that the Bible is in all respects historically reliable or that the writers were even trying to be historically reliable.

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blake6972
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
So now you believe? It's not fact?

I knew you would post in here.

I can do it again.


You shouldn't believe everything you read in a religious text. You also shouldn't try to make up your own interpretation to fit your agenda.


I'll admit. I'm too lazy to read some shit and post it here.

I believe in science. Facts. Things that can be proved. Yes. BBT is a theory. But a damn good one. I would go as far as to say, A God created the Big Bang or the universe.

Dinosaurs and people didn't walk the earth together. That's asinine.

I don't care if people here believe me or not. It's not that important.

I don't care.


I never said dinosaurs and people walked together.

And I never said the Earth is 6,000 years old as a fact.

I said I believe the Earth is around 6,000 to 10,000 years old.

However, I did say in another thread that it is a fact that the Earth is young compared to popular belief and that it is a fact that God exists.

Refute my scientific facts or stop yammering about what you think I said and or meant.
Your word games will get you nowhere with me.



3/9/2017 3:16:56 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

blake6972
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Please try harder calix.
What you posted doesn't apply to my scientific facts that I presented dealing with the BBT.

I will let you know when I post a theological point of view.



3/9/2017 3:25:16 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
sdgncalix3
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10. Theology vs. History: A basic error made by creationists is a failure to differentiate between theology and history. One may write a text with true theological insights, even if the events narrated in the text never actually occurred. Thus, it may very well be true, as Genesis chapter one suggests, that all of creation depends on God, that God brings order out of chaos, that humans can somehow be said to be in the “image” of God, and, that God has judged creation to be good. Each one of these theological claims is importantly different from some of the major cosmogonies (stories of creation) that were common at the time the text was likely written. Therefore, the text represents a theological argument, not a historical account. Importantly, if the Bible is read as theology rather than history, what becomes important in reading the Bible is theological understanding, not historical accounts. To be sure, there are obviously historical references in the Bible. However, this does not mean that the Bible is in all respects historically reliable or that the writers were even trying to be historically reliable.

3/9/2017 3:43:48 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

stargazzer
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Being able to Time date to even less than say 50 years is very important when going back Hundreds & thousands of years, Many things in recent years have ben proven true that is in the Bible only when it was able to time date accuately, a hard thing to do & get right.
But year by year science is catching up with the bible as most is true

3/9/2017 3:52:25 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

fishnthec
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The question we should be more concerned for is how long is it going to last.

Obviously for at least a couple of other planets in our solar system, life didn't last forever- if it ever did in the first place. That is why we are trying our best to see if life ever existed on Mars and Venus. Because something went wrong there and those planets died and it would be nice to know why!

The earth is vulnerable to heat. And right now our Earth is rapidly warming faster in such a short period of time that has ever been recorded or proven by science and perhaps that should be our largest concern.

3/9/2017 4:15:13 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

nuffan
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Quote from fishnthec:
The question we should be more concerned for is how long is it going to last.

Obviously for at least a couple of other planets in our solar system, life didn't last forever- if it ever did in the first place. That is why we are trying our best to see if life ever existed on Mars and Venus. Because something went wrong there and those planets died and it would be nice to know why!

The earth is vulnerable to heat. And right now our Earth is rapidly warming faster in such a short period of time that has ever been recorded or proven by science and perhaps that should be our largest concern.




It will last longer than anyone able to read this today unless there is some unforeseen Extinction Level Event...Like a meteor crashing into Earth...


Climatology experts predict less than a 3 degree change over the next 100 years...

The science says that the more oxygen in the atmosphere the more of the suns rays reflect off the atmosphere...and the more carbon in the atmosphere the more of the suns rays we absorb...

The ALARMIST position is we are going to hit some saturation point very soon and it is going to at that time change very rapidly...

One of the problems is that acceleration is just a theory...

but if it turns out to be true it will be too late once we prove it...

I think we should do what we can to cut back on carbon emissions where we can...

but I do not think the government should be sanctioning any manner in which we generate power...which includes coal...

At the end of the day I seriously doubt with the way carbon in our atmosphere has grown....there is much we can do about it anymore...the damage is done...and they are clearly not going to make the necessary changes with the current people in Congress....

3/9/2017 4:24:35 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

scarredandtatto
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Quote from stargazzer:
Being able to Time date to even less than say 50 years is very important when going back Hundreds & thousands of years, Many things in recent years have ben proven true that is in the Bible only when it was able to time date accuately, a hard thing to do & get right.
But year by year science is catching up with the bible as most is true



True enough, however the bible in full isn't true. The new testament is true...kinda. All of the big things happened; Jesus, the trial, the crucifixion versions of these are all documented in other text.

Even stories in the new testament have been proven.


However it is not a science guide to our existence.

3/9/2017 4:33:50 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

fishnthec
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Where did the name Jesus come from.

Even though I believe a man did walk the Earth like Jesus.

You can never make me believe his name was Jesus which is a Spanish name!

3/9/2017 4:33:59 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

stargazzer
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Quote from scarredandtatto:
True enough, however the bible in full isn't true. The new testament is true...kinda. All of the big things happened; Jesus, the trial, the crucifixion versions of these are all documented in other text.

Even stories in the new testament have been proven.


However it is not a science guide to our existence.

They now know were Eden was but yes that does not mean people started their

3/9/2017 4:40:42 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

scarredandtatto
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eh, they think that they have a pretty good idea where it was.


The name Jesus? Spanish is one of the "romance language", based in Latin. And that brings up a YUGE issue that I have with the new testament. The version that we know was translated several times, and the translations are based on a persons interpretation of a word or phrase. Second, it was compiled and edited by a council. They determined what to put in it and what NOT to put in it.

3/9/2017 5:09:21 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  
beanhammer
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Quote from fishnthec:
Where did the name Jesus come from.

Even though I believe a man did walk the Earth like Jesus.

You can never make me believe his name was Jesus which is a Spanish name!

His name was not god either

3/9/2017 5:13:52 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

cinnamonnhaze
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
All the building blocks for life are in the universe.

A God created the universe. (Something greater than Us)

Science has proved the universe to be billions of years old.

What existed before God?

What created God?



IF there is a God - & none of us knows for sure, he must have really had it out for Blakey & a few others.

I hope there is a heaven.
I hope even more there is a hell.
Some of these people will have quite the penance awaiting them....


3/9/2017 5:15:41 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

nuffan
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Quote from fishnthec:
Where did the name Jesus come from.

Even though I believe a man did walk the Earth like Jesus.

You can never make me believe his name was Jesus which is a Spanish name!



There was a Jesus...this is a fact...

was Jesus the immaculate son of God...this one requires faith...

I do not believe he was a blue eye blonde caucasian as many want to believe...

but that is my opinion...

I take an agnostic view on the immaculate son of God part...

I was always taught we were all Gods children...

3/9/2017 5:34:47 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 3  

catlover418
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
How Old is the Universe?

Until recently, astronomers estimated that the Big Bang occurred between 12 and 14 billion years ago. To put this in perspective, the Solar System is thought to be 4.5 billion years old and humans have existed as a genus for only a few million years. Astronomers estimate the age of the universe in two ways: 1) by looking for the oldest stars; and 2) by measuring the rate of expansion of the universe and extrapolating back to the Big Bang; just as crime detectives can trace the origin of a bullet from the holes in a wall.


I will believe in the Big Bang and evolution when someone tells me where the first matter came from to explode.