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Quote from catlover418:
I will believe in the Big Bang and evolution when someone tells me where the first matter came from to explode.



For me that is where God comes in...

I think we got it right up to let there be light...and Big Bang...

There rest is mostly what man has come up with...

if God did all this with that level of intelligence who are we to question HOW God did it...


How do we know God did not simply create the zygote the smallest building block to life...and let us evolve knowing we would evolve to Gods image...


The arguments over HOW God did it amaze me...


but taking 7 days to create a black hole that exploded to create the universe and all life in it sounds as reasonable as any other explanation I have heard...

To believe in evolution does not have to mean you do not believe in God...it is not binary....lol

Maybe that was Gods plan...claiming you know for certain otherwise is ignorant...lol

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Quote from catlover418:
I will believe in the Big Bang and evolution when someone tells me where the first matter came from to explode.


Albert Einstein had people scratching their heads trying to understand what he meant by Black Holes or how to envision them.

Then here comes Hubble to make it all possible to see for ourselves black holes sucking in old stars and spitting out the new ones on the other side of the hole.

No one ever thought we could see what the big bang looked like, but the Hubble makes that possible too. Events that happened many light years ago, we can watch happening now as the light has just now come into our view from the Hubble!

So, no one can say they don't believe in the Big Bang theory anymore- we can see what happened!



[Edited 3/9/2017 5:53:24 PM ]

3/9/2017 5:56:00 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

blake6972
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Quote from scarredandtatto:
eh, they think that they have a pretty good idea where it was.


The name Jesus? Spanish is one of the "romance language", based in Latin. And that brings up a YUGE issue that I have with the new testament. The version that we know was translated several times, and the translations are based on a persons interpretation of a word or phrase. Second, it was compiled and edited by a council. They determined what to put in it and what NOT to put in it.


God has that covered.
His Word ,is the Living Word.

He is able to rise above human fallacy, hence The Cross of Christ.

3/9/2017 6:03:28 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

progrocknic
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Quote from fishnthec:
Albert Einstein had people scratching their heads trying to understand what he meant by Black Holes or how to envision them.

Then here comes Hubble to make it all possible to see for ourselves black holes sucking in old stars and spitting out the new ones on the other side of the hole.

No one ever thought we could see what the big bang looked like, but the Hubble makes that possible too. Events that happened many light years ago, we can watch happening now as the light has just now come into our view from the Hubble!

So, no one can say they don't believe in the Big Bang theory anymore- we can see what happened!


We can see evolution too, but that doesn't mean much to people who have their eyes closed.

3/9/2017 6:05:03 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
citylights01
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Quote from catlover418:
I will believe in the Big Bang and evolution when someone tells me where the first matter came from to explode.


Wait, so you don't believe in it at all??

3/9/2017 6:06:33 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
pahoalookout
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Quote from fishnthec:


You can never make me believe his name was Jesus which is a Spanish name!


Good joke!

Next time say it's a Mexican name.

3/9/2017 6:21:53 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
beanhammer
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Quote from citylights01:
Wait, so you don't believe in it at all??


So where did the matter come from?

3/9/2017 6:25:35 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
RunzInHoze
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Brother bean !

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Quote from RunzInHoze:
Brother bean !

Where have you been.
sister of bean

3/9/2017 6:42:29 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

blake6972
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Quote from fishnthec:
Albert Einstein had people scratching their heads trying to understand what he meant by Black Holes or how to envision them.

Then here comes Hubble to make it all possible to see for ourselves black holes sucking in old stars and spitting out the new ones on the other side of the hole.

No one ever thought we could see what the big bang looked like, but the Hubble makes that possible too. Events that happened many light years ago, we can watch happening now as the light has just now come into our view from the Hubble!

So, no one can say they don't believe in the Big Bang theory anymore- we can see what happened!


I do not believe in the BB theory.

What one sees through the Hubble telescope has NOTHING to do with the fictitious theory of some Big Bang.

3/9/2017 7:12:36 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

scarredandtatto
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Quote from blake6972:
God has that covered.
His Word ,is the Living Word.

He is able to rise above human fallacy, hence The Cross of Christ.



And that is what is know as faith. Fact is something tangible, something that can be seen.

3/9/2017 7:16:10 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
snowtires88
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Quote from blake6972:
I do not believe in the BB theory.

What one sees through the Hubble telescope has NOTHING to do with the fictitious theory of some Big Bang.


Actually it does lol.

You should really study up on light.

3/9/2017 7:20:04 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

blake6972
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Quote from scarredandtatto:
And that is what is know as faith. Fact is something tangible, something that can be seen.


I know what faith is.

Jesus was "tangible " and seen by many.

3/9/2017 7:29:44 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

blake6972
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Quote from citylights01:
This is a public forum, so anyone can respond.

I haven't seen you use any facts yet.


Then brush up on your reading and comprehension skills.

Denial is NOT your friend.

Only thing you impose is annoyance.

Go back and read the thread and refute anything that isn't a fact that I stated was a fact.

Don't worry I won't hold my breath, because you don't know what you are talking about.
Just trolling as usual.

3/9/2017 7:36:12 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
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Does city wish to be a mod one day?


Quote from blake6972:
Then brush up on your reading and comprehension skills.

Denial is NOT your friend.

Only thing you impose is annoyance.

Go back and read the thread and refute anything that isn't a fact that I stated was a fact.

Don't worry I won't hold my breath, because you don't know what you are talking about.
Just trolling as usual.


3/9/2017 7:36:37 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

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Quote from citylights01:
Wait, so you don't believe in it at all??


Not the Big Bang.

And as for evolution, I know you've heard the analogy of the pieces of a watch all magically coming together by themselves to form a watch.

Had God been off in one detail of creation, we could not exist.

One single cell has more miracles than one can imagine. How much more the brain, or conception and birth.

How does the body know how and when to perform its functions? Randomly? Hardly.

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ohdona
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That is weird to me.



[Edited 3/9/2017 7:56:26 PM ]

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citylights01
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Quote from catlover418:
Not the Big Bang.

And as for evolution, I know you've heard the analogy of the pieces of a watch all magically coming together by themselves to form a watch.

Had God been off in one detail of creation, we could not exist.

One single cell has more miracles than one can imagine. How much more the brain, or conception and birth.

How does the body know how and when to perform its functions? Randomly? Hardly.


So, you really don't believe in evolution? Wow.

3/9/2017 8:17:05 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

blake6972
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Debunking "Evolution " coming soon.

Evolution DOES NOT EXIST!!!

Like I said before, it takes more faith to believe a lie than the truth.

City why did you use the word "wow" regarding another poster stating their disbelief in evolution?

3/9/2017 8:37:29 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
citylights01
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Quote from blake6972:
Debunking "Evolution " coming soon.

Evolution DOES NOT EXIST!!!

Like I said before, it takes more faith to believe a lie than the truth.

City why did you use the word "wow" regarding another poster stating their disbelief in evolution?


Did you miss out on science classes all through school? I can't believe you of all people are going to debunk evolution.

3/9/2017 9:07:33 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

progrocknic
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Why is it everyone that wants private schools also doesn't believe in evolution. For f**ks sake. You're adults, not children. Evolution is scientific fact, end of story. If you dont think it's a fact, that means you lack education, it doesn't mean science lacks evidence. You're retarded. Read a book. Stop being a f**king child and believing a story in a book that's thousands of years old.

3/9/2017 9:09:45 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
Zelda88
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ask cupofcheer when she saw it begin.

3/9/2017 9:33:41 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

blake6972
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Quote from citylights01:
Did you miss out on science classes all through school? I can't believe you of all people are going to debunk evolution.


Do tell.
Why can't you believe that?

You can answer in my new thread about this very topic.

3/10/2017 10:32:28 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

shylywilling
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Genesis. We are of twelve reactionary principals of evolution.

1)...From nothing comes Lord God, or if u prefer, the eternal expanding energy of the universe.

2)...Attractions.

3)...Neutral balances between the expansive and attractive forces in the universe. The wombs of life's conceptions.

4)...Life.

5)...The interaction of life with the universe.

-----6)...Self extinguishing life.

-----7)...Sustainable life.

8)...The result,(proof), of life's interaction. Either extinction or infinite existence.

9)...Inspiration/transformation

10)...Inspirit w/ghost
11)...Inspirit w/Son
12)...Inspirit w/Father

Reconciled growth, evolution.

I see that we are each the individual cells of an embryo of God. When we mature as a whole, enough, we will become aware of our life as one, recognize that we are still in a dark, scary, isolated, and uncomfortable womb apart from the loving presence of our Father and commence the final arduous and painful journey to his lighted presence.

We will need to sever the umbilical chord of capitalism that divides us and prevents us from believing in God, each other.

We can only imagine the 9/10ths of our potential that in our present selfish state we cannot be allowed dominion of. Even at a tenth, we might yet destroy our species. Individuals can't have the keys to dad's car until we at least learn how to walk as one together.

I am God's Victor Path, also an 8, 2nd observer of OUR river ouda groove, er, womb. chuckle!

3/10/2017 12:34:25 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
fellowforyou
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Old enough to know better.

3/10/2017 12:37:10 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

mustangwriter
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Quote from citylights01:
Did you miss out on science classes all through school? I can't believe you of all people are going to debunk evolution.



You do realize evolution is JUST A THEORY and taught as such, right?


And it would be easier for the BIG BANG to have created a fully equipped 747 than a planet with all it's countless organisms and diverse flora and fauna.



[Edited 3/10/2017 12:39:01 PM ]

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muldoon1959
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"Just a theory".

Obviously clueless about the scientific definition of theory.

3/10/2017 12:52:34 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

progrocknic
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Quote from mustangwriter:
You do realize evolution is JUST A THEORY and taught as such, right?


So is gravity. I dare you to challenge gravity by jumping off a building. If you think the theory of gravity is a pretty sound theory, maybe you can understand why people look at you like a jack a** when questioning the theory of evolution.

3/10/2017 1:04:27 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
muldoon1959
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Creationists want to believe that "theory" represents degrees of certainty.
That's why they say "It's just a theory".

They have absolutely no clue as to what it actually means.
They're arguing semantics.


A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.



[Edited 3/10/2017 1:05:48 PM ]

3/10/2017 2:14:37 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

mustangwriter
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Quote from muldoon1959:
"Just a theory".

Obviously clueless about the scientific definition of theory.



In YOUR case you may be correct. You definitely are the creature that swamp ooze created.

3/10/2017 2:17:33 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
muldoon1959
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Rigtwingers proving that evolution is real.
Except in their case, as is usual, they're doing it wrong.

3/10/2017 8:18:33 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

louie6332
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Progro, you say: “Evolution is scientific fact, end of story...maybe you can understand why people look at you like a jack a** when stating” that the THEORY of evolution is a FACT. Jack a** like yourself shouldn't be calling other people jack asses. If you want to see a jack ass, just look in the mirror.

Darwin himself stated that "the problem with the theory of the evolution of man on Earth is that there is no evidence for it”. And there still is no evidence for it. In fact, the physical evidence that exists supports the creation of man on Earth. Your belief that the evolution of man on Earth is “fact” is taken on faith and faith alone, it has nothing at all to do with science. The Freemasons and Illuminati teach the theory of the evolution of man on Earth from monkeys or green slime or whatever in public schools as part of their planned war against Christianity. The evolution of man on Earth is no more fact than manmade global warming is fact. Both are bastardizations of science for political purposes. Both are hoaxes. And the perpetrators admited this to themselves when they were plotting to do this. Science is supposed to be about truth, politics has no place in it.

Progo, you and the other Godless Liberals posting here are trusting the very people to tell you the truth who admit they an official policy of lying to the American people, only they do not call it lying, they have an official name for it, they call it “disinformation”. “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false” (Edgar Casey, director of CIA from 1981 to 1987, stated during an early meeting of the CIA). This disinformation program is part of the Federal Government’s phy-op operation against the American people, and they are using the public schools and the Major News Media to disseminate this propaganda and form new generations suitable for their planned New World Order. What you are calling "science" is nothing more than propaganda.

When you are repeating propaganda, don't be so arrogant about it. No body likes a jack ass.

Now go to your save place....and cry.

Louie

3/10/2017 8:22:26 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

louie6332
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Progro, you say: “Evolution is scientific fact, end of story. Maybe you can understand why people look at you like a jack a** when stating” that the THEORY of evolution is a FACT. Progro, jack asses like yourself shouldn't be calling other people jack asses. If you want to see a jack ass, just look in the mirror.

Listen and listen carefully, Darwin himself stated that "the problem with the theory of the evolution of man on Earth is that there is no evidence for it”. And there still is no evidence for it. In fact, the physical evidence that exists supports the creation of man on Earth. Your belief that the evolution of man on Earth is “fact” is taken on faith and faith alone, it has nothing at all to do with science. The Freemasons and Illuminati teach the theory of the evolution of man on Earth from monkeys or green slime or whatever in public schools as part of their planned war against Christianity. The evolution of man on Earth is no more fact than manmade global warming is fact. Both are bastardizations of science for political purposes. Both are hoaxes. And the perpetrators admitted this to themselves when they were plotting to do this. Science is supposed to be about truth, politics has no place in it.

Progo, you and the other Godless Liberals posting here are trusting the very people to tell you the truth who admit they have an official policy of lying to the American people...only they do not call it lying, they have an official name for it, they call it “disinformation”. “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false” (Edgar Casey, director of CIA from 1981 to 1987, stated during an early meeting of the CIA). This disinformation program is part of the Federal Government’s phy-op operation against the American people, and they are using the public schools and Hollywood and the Major News Media to disseminate this propaganda and form new generations suitable for their planned New World Order. What you are calling "science" is nothing more than propaganda.

a word of advise, when you are repeating propaganda, don't be so arrogant about it. No body likes a jack ass.

Now go to your save place....and cry.

Louie

3/10/2017 8:30:28 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
ohdona
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Ha ha, jackass. Irony.

3/10/2017 9:13:01 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
citylights01
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Blake has blocked me from his thread. I guess I'll never hear about what I lied about. haha.

3/10/2017 9:26:36 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

stellar007
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You must have really p1ssed him off Citi...

You seem to have that effect on a lot of people! LOL

3/10/2017 9:33:55 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
citylights01
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If he's pissed off because I and others believe in evolution, he's got issues. Plus, he's angry all the time. And, there was nothing to debate about in his thread, so I don't see what the point was.

3/10/2017 9:35:29 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

stellar007
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Maybe he just wanted to slip it in ya?

3/10/2017 9:48:00 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
citylights01
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Oh, I'm sure anna or hasle are much better for him. I wish him luck.

3/10/2017 10:20:16 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

stellar007
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Ah well... Maybe he will come around in time... You are sort of a head case, and very good at getting under peoples skin.

You know what the rule on the street is... He who blocks first loses.. Maybe he accidentally clicked the block button and hasn't noticed yet... How? I have no idea... But maybe!





[Edited 3/10/2017 10:20:44 PM ]

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stellar007
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Or he could have just gotten tired of your BS and just blocked you..

I've pondered it myself on occasion but could not live with giving you the satisfaction.



3/10/2017 10:45:15 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
amusicluvr
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Both science, and The Bible, tell of The Big Bang. God said "Let there be light." and there was light. What made the light? An explosion...The Big Bang. God set off The Big Bang. The order of Creation, and the order of Evolution, is the same..small creeping things, larger animals, man, etc.The Bible says that the stars sing. Science confirms that stars emit sound waves...many sounding like a choir singing. The Bible says the Earth is circular, and hung on nothing...which is what Science shows in photos taken from space, or the moon. Science, and The Bible, agree more than disagree in many ways. The Bible does NOT dispute Science's view of the Earth being billions of years old. The Bible suggests that there is life on other planets...stating that in God's house are many mansions. If God's 'house' is outer space, the 'mansions' may be inhabited planets.

3/11/2017 5:41:23 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

catlover418
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Quote from amusicluvr:
Both science, and The Bible, tell of The Big Bang. God said "Let there be light." and there was light. What made the light? An explosion...The Big Bang. God set off The Big Bang. The order of Creation, and the order of Evolution, is the same..small creeping things, larger animals, man, etc.The Bible says that the stars sing. Science confirms that stars emit sound waves...many sounding like a choir singing. The Bible says the Earth is circular, and hung on nothing...which is what Science shows in photos taken from space, or the moon. Science, and The Bible, agree more than disagree in many ways. The Bible does NOT dispute Science's view of the Earth being billions of years old. The Bible suggests that there is life on other planets...stating that in God's house are many mansions. If God's 'house' is outer space, the 'mansions' may be inhabited planets.


"Both science, and The Bible, tell of The Big Bang. God said "Let there be light." and there was light. What made the light? An explosion...The Big Bang."

What made the light? Not an explosion. Something had to make the light for it to explode.

"the order of Evolution, is the same. small creeping things, larger animals, man, etc."

The Bible says all animals were made on the same day. And the next day He made man.

"in God's house are many mansions. If God's 'house' is outer space, the 'mansions' may be inhabited planets."

The mansions are for the saved in Heaven. They will be on the New Earth.

Your response makes more sense than many I've seen on here.

3/11/2017 6:57:19 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

blake6972
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God is NOT counter productive.
He doesn't nor did he use any form of the BB corrupt theory to create that which he created.

Nor does evolution play any part in that which He created.

Life begets life of the same.
It does not nor has it ever evolved.

It is one of the biggest lies ever promoted. Besides, "surly though shalt not die"...

Many people adhere to the BBT and evolution because it pushes God out of the picture and robs Him of His rightful glory.

People put limits on God,very foolish to do so.
If they do believe God , it is only the "god" of their understanding.
If they can not fathom or comprehend, than it must not be so.
God is not slack concerning His mercy.
God is not the author of confusion. He deals with us as children (and rightly so).

Science is "god" to many, especially atheists, but God doesn't "believe in atheists ".

People need to stop restricting God and stop putting limits on Him.
And refrain from asking unlearned questions because they just lead to more silliness.

Hence why I blocked city from my thread because that is exactly what she does. She was given plenty of chances to debate ,but she rather troll and argue.

For me not to block her would mean I am an enabler to such silliness which I am not.

Why study origins?
The question:
Many sincere believers today ask why we should spend time studying Scientific and Biblical evidence for Creation verses Evolution.
Shouldn't we just accept Genesis 1 & 2 by faith and not worry about it ?

Or shouldn't we just say that it doesn't matter whether God created all things miraculously or by evolution as long as we agree that God did it?

The answer:
The truth is while the enemy is successfully attacking the foundation of all that we believe , Christians have sat back silently surrendering our children ,our CULTURE, our character, and our convictions to Satan's lie that there is no Creator and therefore no absolute right or wrong, no absolute truth, no sin , no judgment,no pure justification , no heaven, no hell, no need for a Saviour, and no Word from God which can be trusted.

Well folks, this simply is not true.
Satan is the "father of lies".
He hates you, he hates your children, he hates your children's children. And unfortunately, he hates God.
He doesn't want anyone to partake in that which He free willingly gave up.
He doesn't want you to behold the glory of God. He doesn't want you to embrace God's love and only begotten Son. He doesn't want you to obtain salvation by the death, burial, and RESURRECTION of Jesus the Christ.

Don't allow that to happen.
Don't allow him to steal that which God wants to give you freely by His grace.

3/11/2017 7:09:30 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
sdgncalix3
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Quote from blake6972:
God is NOT counter productive.
He doesn't nor did he use any form of the BB corrupt theory to create that which he created.

Nor does evolution play any part in that which He created.

Life begets life of the same.
It does not nor has it ever evolved.

It is one of the biggest lies ever promoted. Besides, "surly though shalt not die"...

Many people adhere to the BBT and evolution because it pushes God out of the picture and robs Him of His rightful glory.

People put limits on God,very foolish to do so.
If they do believe God , it is only the "god" of their understanding.
If they can not fathom or comprehend, than it must not be so.
God is not slack concerning His mercy.
God is not the author of confusion. He deals with us as children (and rightly so).

Science is "god" to many, especially atheists, but God doesn't "believe in atheists ".

People need to stop restricting God and stop putting limits on Him.
And refrain from asking unlearned questions because they just lead to more silliness.

Hence why I blocked city from my thread because that is exactly what she does. She was given plenty of chances to debate ,but she rather troll and argue.

For me not to block her would mean I am an enabler to such silliness which I am not.

Why study origins?
The question:
Many sincere believers today ask why we should spend time studying Scientific and Biblical evidence for Creation verses Evolution.
Shouldn't we just accept Genesis 1 & 2 by faith and not worry about it ?

Or shouldn't we just say that it doesn't matter whether God created all things miraculously or by evolution as long as we agree that God did it?

The answer:
The truth is while the enemy is successfully attacking the foundation of all that we believe , Christians have sat back silently surrendering our children ,our CULTURE, our character, and our convictions to Satan's lie that there is no Creator and therefore no absolute right or wrong, no absolute truth, no sin , no judgment,no pure justification , no heaven, no hell, no need for a Saviour, and no Word from God which can be trusted.

Well folks, this simply is not true.
Satan is the "father of lies".
He hates you, he hates your children, he hates your children's children. And unfortunately, he hates God.
He doesn't want anyone to partake in that which He free willingly gave up.
He doesn't want you to behold the glory of God. He doesn't want you to embrace God's love and only begotten Son. He doesn't want you to obtain salvation by the death, burial, and RESURRECTION of Jesus the Christ.

Don't allow that to happen.
Don't allow him to steal that which God wants to give you freely by His grace.



The rant of someone that has lost their mind ladies and gentlemen.

Enjoy God.

I will do so in my own way.



[Edited 3/11/2017 7:10:24 AM ]

3/11/2017 7:12:49 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

blake6972
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
The rant of someone that has lost their mind ladies and gentlemen.

Enjoy God.

I will do so in my own way.


That is exactly what Satan said.

Do you have some device that sends off a signal everything I post?
Because you are on me in record time.

How did I supposedly lose my mind?

3/11/2017 7:17:13 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

catlover418
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Quote from blake6972:

How did I supposedly lose my mind?


I'm wondering that too. Everything Blake has said on both of these threads makes perfect sense. Of course, truth is foolishness to the unbeliever.

3/11/2017 7:17:18 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
fellowforyou
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Ain't old. Trump says he made the universe.
Created the earth as his own limo.

3/11/2017 7:55:43 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
sdgncalix3
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Quote from blake6972:
That is exactly what Satan said.

Do you have some device that sends off a signal everything I post?
Because you are on me in record time.

How did I supposedly lose my mind?


It's called having a phone you can look at any time.
Because you are so ridgid in your beliefs and faith.

You deny it, but things like this and abortion set you off.

Catlady, that's cool if you believe the same as Blake.

You guys do what you do. It seems to make you have. So that is cool.



[Edited 3/11/2017 7:57:25 AM ]

3/11/2017 8:11:45 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

blake6972
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
The rant of someone that has lost their mind ladies and gentlemen.

Enjoy God.

I will do so in my own way.


Do what?

How? What way?

3/11/2017 8:31:06 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
sdgncalix3
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Like I said. Enjoy God.

Enjoy your life.

I have my own personal relationship with God.

3/11/2017 8:44:55 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

blake6972
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I knew you would dodge the question.

You might want to refrain from making certain comments about other people and what they believe when you yourself are to much of a coward to say what you believe.

Maybe you don't really know what you believe.

I mean , you always have science class to fall back on.

You don't have to think.
Just believe what you are told.

You know, kinda of like the BB THEORY and the corrupt evolution theory.

Yup, that should work.

Do not give anyone a hard time about their beliefs when you are to scared to reveal yours calix.

That IS being a COWARD.

Stop deflecting and start owning your stuff.

Anyway enjoy your god.

3/11/2017 9:01:47 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  
sdgncalix3
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Quote from blake6972:
I knew you would dodge the question.

You might want to refrain from making certain comments about other people and what they believe when you yourself are to much of a coward to say what you believe.

Maybe you don't really know what you believe.

I mean , you always have science class to fall back on.

You don't have to think.
Just believe what you are told.

You know, kinda of like the BB THEORY and the corrupt evolution theory.

Yup, that should work.

Do not give anyone a hard time about their beliefs when you are to scared to reveal yours calix.

That IS being a COWARD.

Stop deflecting and start owning your stuff.

Anyway enjoy your god.


No reason you should be so angry.

If you think I'm a coward, ok.

If you think I am dodging, ok.

I know what I believe and it's not because someone told me to.

I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else here.


If you are looking for a fight, I'm not the person.

3/11/2017 9:12:49 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

cinnamonnhaze
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Quote from catlover418:
"Both science, and The Bible, tell of The Big Bang. God said "Let there be light." and there was light. What made the light? An explosion...The Big Bang."

What made the light? Not an explosion. Something had to make the light for it to explode.

"the order of Evolution, is the same. small creeping things, larger animals, man, etc."

The Bible says all animals were made on the same day. And the next day He made man.

"in God's house are many mansions. If God's 'house' is outer space, the 'mansions' may be inhabited planets."

The mansions are for the saved in Heaven. They will be on the New Earth.

Your response makes more sense than many I've seen on here.




Are there 72 virgins in each of these mansions?

And you think Muslims are nutty....

3/11/2017 9:17:02 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

cinnamonnhaze
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Quote from citylights01:
If he's pissed off because I and others believe in evolution, he's got issues. Plus, he's angry all the time. And, there was nothing to debate about in his thread, so I don't see what the point was.



Be happy!!!

I had to block Blake because of his "anger management" issues.

I read a quote someone posted from him. Ironic that he got all pissy about name calling. The QUEEN of name calling is baby Blakey.

I can just picture him angrily typing away because he can't have it both ways.

He must be a real peach in person.

3/11/2017 9:19:32 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

progrocknic
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Quote from louie6332:
Progro, you say: “Evolution is scientific fact, end of story...maybe you can understand why people look at you like a jack a** when stating” that the THEORY of evolution is a FACT. Jack a** like yourself shouldn't be calling other people jack asses. If you want to see a jack ass, just look in the mirror.

Darwin himself stated that "the problem with the theory of the evolution of man on Earth is that there is no evidence for it”. And there still is no evidence for it. In fact, the physical evidence that exists supports the creation of man on Earth. Your belief that the evolution of man on Earth is “fact” is taken on faith and faith alone, it has nothing at all to do with science. The Freemasons and Illuminati teach the theory of the evolution of man on Earth from monkeys or green slime or whatever in public schools as part of their planned war against Christianity. The evolution of man on Earth is no more fact than manmade global warming is fact. Both are bastardizations of science for political purposes. Both are hoaxes. And the perpetrators admited this to themselves when they were plotting to do this. Science is supposed to be about truth, politics has no place in it.

Progo, you and the other Godless Liberals posting here are trusting the very people to tell you the truth who admit they an official policy of lying to the American people, only they do not call it lying, they have an official name for it, they call it “disinformation”. “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false” (Edgar Casey, director of CIA from 1981 to 1987, stated during an early meeting of the CIA). This disinformation program is part of the Federal Government’s phy-op operation against the American people, and they are using the public schools and the Major News Media to disseminate this propaganda and form new generations suitable for their planned New World Order. What you are calling "science" is nothing more than propaganda.

When you are repeating propaganda, don't be so arrogant about it. No body likes a jack ass.

Now go to your save place....and cry.

Louie


How many apocalypses have you survived?

I'm really not going to argue with someone who doesn't understand that a scientific theory isn't just a guess. Be proud that you're exercising your right to be stupid. Show off that willful ignorance like it's a medal.

3/11/2017 9:21:28 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

cinnamonnhaze
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Quote from catlover418:
"Both science, and The Bible, tell of The Big Bang. God said "Let there be light." and there was light. What made the light? An explosion...The Big Bang."

What made the light? Not an explosion. Something had to make the light for it to explode.

"the order of Evolution, is the same. small creeping things, larger animals, man, etc."

The Bible says all animals were made on the same day. And the next day He made man.

"in God's house are many mansions. If God's 'house' is outer space, the 'mansions' may be inhabited planets."

The mansions are for the saved in Heaven. They will be on the New Earth.

Your response makes more sense than many I've seen on here.



Species evolve over time - even little creepy creatures. Bugs included.
New species are found, others go extinct. The climate plays a very important role in this.

Do you have a dinosaur in your back yard?

How do you explain a mule?


3/11/2017 9:22:22 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

progrocknic
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Quote from catlover418:
"Both science, and The Bible, tell of The Big Bang. God said "Let there be light." and there was light. What made the light? An explosion...The Big Bang."

What made the light? Not an explosion. Something had to make the light for it to explode.

"the order of Evolution, is the same. small creeping things, larger animals, man, etc."

The Bible says all animals were made on the same day. And the next day He made man.

"in God's house are many mansions. If God's 'house' is outer space, the 'mansions' may be inhabited planets."

The mansions are for the saved in Heaven. They will be on the New Earth.

Your response makes more sense than many I've seen on here.


So since you don't believe in evolution, are you suggesting God created animals without the ability to evolve? That would seem pretty stupid for a God who made a universe that is constantly changing. If life couldn't evolve, when the environment changes it wouldn't survive. So either evolution happens naturally or God gave the ability for life to evolve.

3/11/2017 9:24:33 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

blake6972
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
No reason you should be so angry.

If you think I'm a coward, ok.

If you think I am dodging, ok.

I know what I believe and it's not because someone told me to.

I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else here.


If you are looking for a fight, I'm not the person.


Totally not angry.
Not looking for anything at this juncture.

You suck at deflection.

How are you at reflection?



3/11/2017 9:25:07 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 4  

cinnamonnhaze
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I get the feeling Louis really does have a safe place & he goes there quite often.
I just wonder if he wears his tin foil helmet while sucking his thumb....?