Yes they do. its called tough love. they obviously need mental help.

Again...I don't read all the pages of responses. Maybe I missed something.

It just seemed to me that he was saying he thought she ruined a good thing and simply expressed that and that she went overboard or whatever.

As far as crossing lines, I see enough women here do that about men all the time here...yet rare or no complaints...and this happens on about every forum too ..surely it can't be okay for one gender to do this and not the other... but that's another story and topic... back to the issue.


He started out by simply expressing that he felt she ruined a masterpiece, however he didn't see her prior just before this either...then responses came in, and fed his responses back, and sometimes that leads to being, the more crossing the line part, that the topic itself...which is typical in many threads.

It just seemed to me he was sharply expressing his opinion...vs. bashing her.

I specifically mentioned instances of male vanity because I suspected that you might try to make it a gender issue and it's not. The top selling "vanity drug" in the world is VIAGRA. GNC sells more testosterone boosters than vitamins or protein drinks.

If "looking good" improves one's sense of well-being, then it is well worth the price. Perhaps not to you. Perhaps not to most. But there will always be a market for real or perceived self improvement...

Oh please was it really needed? NO! He made the choice to bash her.

Wait I forgot it's DH and an accepted standard to bash people

I'm thinking about putting a little Stuff into my lips. they used to be very full but gotten smaller as I turn younger,

I'm showing you what I see coming from you as a guy. In fact if anything most of what you personally say is negative. How can I not highlight that?

I could ignore you if you'd like. But you would never find out where you go wrong with women if I did that.

I have no control over what you portray about yourself. Telling me the percentage of threads doesn't make it comparable.

Totally missed the point.


But that's not surprising.

You're wrong. Men hold women back in some industries. Nothing much is different than the 40 yrs ago I started in it. Men and women can both do the job, but few women choose the career. It's been about 10:1 men:women.

If you haven't experienced blatant sex discrimination in pay, promotion, etc., it's easy to say it doesn't exist.

Who said anything about him getting rejected, I didn't see that in the thread. So did he say this later? or did you just assume this?

His thread showed his flabbergasted reaction to taking what looked near perfect by nature and making it appear false, and not so attractive. Plus, he did ask a specific question at the bottom seeking understanding about this from a woman's perspective and if something like this could became addicting as it did MJ, to the point its counteractive...meaning its a real thread and legit question. It may not seem important enough to you and me to write about, but it did to him and its his right to post about things that did matter to him.

I don't mind if you thought it was bashing, that's your right too, but you couldn't just say something or two and move on, you went on and on and on and on...so, with that I decided to say something, and that's my right.

A forum is not "Ann Landers" and some try to make it that, because its what they want...its mix of people, all different with different motivations, its interaction and entertainment, some use it to advertise and if the case, usually with a false front and those are the guys that you think are the good guys, because you fall for this "act"...of saying all the right things..no honest person can do that.

This isn't just about him, with what you said there that I quoted, Its about all and any guys who say anything not complimentary to women at times, and you used him to take this out on and just can't admit it...and I still think you see yourself as along the lines of this woman and took defense too.

I'll admit I've seen more female bashing here than any other forum, by leaps and bounds, in part its because we have no mods, in part this place tends to draw more people with issues in both genders, and then there's that old saying: if do you don't want to hear certain things, then don't dish them out. Women bash men in one way or the other on any forum, all the time, meaning if its not one, its another or several all at once. and a high percentage of them do this...well into the upper 90 percent range, its just some don't do it consistently. or as often.

Most forums, the men just take it, even though they don't like it...but, if they complain or fire back, they know that cuts their chances....so many don't...here, its different.

So...what you said about how men should talk to women, applies to both genders, and women too. Women were bashing men on forums, long before any significant number of men started throwing it back.

Your not special enough to have that privilege...and we're human too. We're not just some commodity for your beckoning call without feelings, small wonder you side with this woman...she fits the description I initially had of her.

Not many guys would tell you this...but I'm just any other guy..

How?

typical woman logic of insatiability: the traditional role was a man provides for his woman. she's the keeper of the home but should not or is not allowed to work. yes that's a job in itself but it's NOT the same as having THE job. Women revolt, demand equality, want shared gender roles. A huge jump in Mr. Mom's and stay at home men trends and persists all while women increasingly gripe that men aren't men anymore (I agree with that). Men don't provide, he isn't taking care of me blah blah blah etc etc.

Yet.....this entire genesis was self created


women were a lot happier before they were convinced they had to devolve themselves into the very people they were told to never settle being with



yet..womens "logic" hasn't changed one single iota

who ever said women had to be a mans "property". I understand women want and enjoy working. I know plenty of women that work but spend as much, if not more than their net earnings on daycare. that's asinine to me if not selfish. Many women want to do everything a man did/does but still expect to be afforded all the "traditional" considerations. The real world "having your cake and eating it to" mentality...shit doesn't work that way