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iam_resurrected
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Obama was such an horrible example of an African American that [true] African Americans created an organization called "Black Lives Matter."
More African Americans held images of Obama in unacceptable mannerisms than anyone else during those 8 years.
my feelings are that the African Americans know what a piece of sh*t Obama was better than the rest of us and called him out on it.
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Olaf_the_german
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Most "African Americans" haven't had an active link with Africa in generations...
Do white South Africans who now have US citizenship call themselves African Americans?...not likely.
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ltlwing
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Mannequins I was told by unknowns. Not celebrity's.
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ltlwing
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I never understood the whole African American crap. Simply put..If you were born here in America, you are a American.
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Olaf_the_german
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...or how it related to color as most seem to use it...as noted you can be white and be Africa American...more so than those claiming to be African American...
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iam_resurrected
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Most "African Americans" haven't had an active link with Africa in generations...
Do white South Africans who now have US citizenship call themselves African Americans?...not likely.
just in my lifetime alone, my friends from the African culture have asked me to refer them to colored - black - African Americans.
they are the ones making the "labels" to which we are to call anyone of that ancestry.
i have respected my friends and continue on.
today, they are African Americans.
tomorrow, who knows.
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stanleyzee
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DEUCE
KG is RAW
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Olaf_the_german
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just in my lifetime alone, my friends from the African culture have asked me to refer them to colored - black - African Americans.
they are the ones making the "labels" to which we are to call anyone of that ancestry.
i have respected my friends and continue on.
today, they are African Americans.
tomorrow, who knows.
You don't have to respect your friends wishes if it is racist and illogical..which the term "African American" is unless they actually have dual citizenship of an African country and the US...add to that if they are using it as an indication of their color...again, you can have WHITE Africans..there are millions of whites born in Africa. To assign it as a color is racist and stereotyping.
If you choose to support your friends racism then you're a weak minded young man!
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
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As lunaglide called me
HALF-BAKED
If all of us ordered a kit
Ancestry DNA test.com
Quite sure no one's PURE
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Olaf_the_german
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Quite sure no one's PURE
That's because ya'll gave Hitler and his plan the boot...stupids!
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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just in my lifetime alone, my friends from the African culture have asked me to refer them to colored - black - African Americans.
they are the ones making the "labels" to which we are to call anyone of that ancestry.
i have respected my friends and continue on.
today, they are African Americans.
tomorrow, who knows.
You don't have to respect your friends wishes if it is racist and illogical..which the term "African American" is unless they actually have dual citizenship of an African country and the US...add to that if they are using it as an indication of their color...again, you can have WHITE Africans..there are millions of whites born in Africa. To assign it as a color is racist and stereotyping.
If you choose to support your friends racism then you're a weak minded young man!
i am not debating on logic nor logistics here. anyone who can trace their ancestors from the Colony and then back to Africa is from Africa by descent.
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stanleyzee
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i am not debating on logic nor logistics here. anyone who can trace their ancestors from the Colony and then back to Africa is from Africa by descent.
Well that goes for every human on the planet...the ability to trace it isn't necessary as that's already a known
So it's a bit racist and moot for one group of humans to make reference to it...clearly it has undertones of racism to do so.
How many white Americans do you know that refer to themselves are European American...
And once again...it has zip to do with color, African and American are not colors...
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iam_resurrected
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Well that goes for every human on the planet...the ability to trace it isn't necessary as that's already a known
So it's a bit racist and moot for one group of humans to make reference to it...clearly it has undertones of racism to do so.
How many white Americans do you know that refer to themselves are European American...
And once again...it has zip to do with color, African and American are not colors...
but you have no argument because in general the "African American" can be labelled that correctly. they are of African descent and born in America = African American. and makes a hell of a lot more sense than people of color or black.
People call the tribal members of Africa" Africans" without denoting they are a specific [skin color] or [black]. they are Africans.
so people in America whose descent is from Africa seems better to be referred to as African American rather than [of color or black].
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Olaf_the_german
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but you have no argument because in general the "African American" can be labelled that correctly. they are of African descent and born in America = African American. and makes a hell of a lot more sense than people of color or black.
Again, that goes for EVERY American...I think you missed that point...so for one group...predominantly black ones...to feel the need to use it in a reference to themselves as being different than the rest... it smacks of racism...
Comprehende?
I'm really curious about these friends of yours though...under want circumstances does it arise that they ask you to all them African American???
I mean I've never had a Swedish friend ask me "Hey, do me a favor and call me Swedish will you".
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jer3552
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if they are Nigerians, can u shorten the word?
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stl1
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Most "African Americans" haven't had an active link with Africa in generations...
Do white South Africans who now have US citizenship call themselves African Americans?...not likely.
Boering!
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iam_resurrected
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Again, that goes for EVERY American...I think you missed that point...so for one group...predominantly black ones...to feel the need to use it in a reference to themselves as being different than the rest... it smacks of racism...
Comprehende?
how so when before the "term" African American ever was practiced [job applications] still require AMERICANS to separate themselves by RACE?
African American is just a proper term under the code of a JOB APPLICATION.
are you really this ignorant?
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jer3552
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Boering!
good one the Boers were whites living in Africa
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iam_resurrected
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i told you if you come back i'd prove how much dumber you were than yesterday. you [suck]!!
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stl1
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good one the Boers were whites living in Africa
Thanks for explaining it, Jer.
Since Olaf turned 50, his Oldtimer's has kicked in and I was worried that he wouldn't have gotten it.
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ltlwing
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i am not debating on logic nor logistics here. anyone who can trace their ancestors from the Colony and then back to Africa is from Africa by descent.
Well that goes for every human on the planet...the ability to trace it isn't necessary as that's already a known
So it's a bit racist and moot for one group of humans to make reference to it...clearly it has undertones of racism to do so.
How many white Americans do you know that refer to themselves are European American...
And once again...it has zip to do with color, African and American are not colors...
True! ...Americans are a mixed bunch. No other title is needed.
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mylegsarecold
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Wow, two white guys arguing over Negroes. Just like the good ole civil war times.
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how so when before the "term" African American ever was practiced [job applications] still require AMERICANS to separate themselves by RACE?
African American is just a proper term under the code of a JOB APPLICATION.
are you really this ignorant?
So job applications and the dumb f**k who wrote them are the authority on humanity huh...not anthropologists...f**king moron
If your Macdonalds Job Application said jump off a roof you probably would huh i_am
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jer3552
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American Indians had 2 feet tall horses to shoot arrows from before the Spanish got here....well 12000 yrs ago before their horses went extinct.....Z that would be 10000 bc
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Olaf_the_german
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Damn, don't tell bumble about the 2ft tall horses..
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stanleyzee
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Ok Jerry
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jer3552
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Damn, don't tell bumble about the 2ft tall horses..
easy mounts
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iam_resurrected
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how so when before the "term" African American ever was practiced [job applications] still require AMERICANS to separate themselves by RACE?
African American is just a proper term under the code of a JOB APPLICATION.
are you really this ignorant?
So job applications and the dumb f**k who wrote them are the authority on humanity huh...not anthropologists...f**king moron
If your Macdonalds Job Application said jump off a roof you probably would huh i_am
Technically job applications are being racist in a legal form once an applicant fills it out.
And this racist documentation is a proper form accepted by law for tax purposes and accepted as fact pertaining to the race documented on the application.
So technically if a job application list African American it is then how they are to be defined.
Police reports also indicate individual race and separation and it's a legal document in court.
You are a transplant. Like what the hell would your ignorant a** know?
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killerbugs53
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if they are Nigerians, can u shorten the word?
I am sure you already do that...always taking the lazy way out...
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Olaf_the_german
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Technically job applications are being racist in a legal form once an applicant fills it out.
Therefore it was a bit silly of you using them as some sort of definitive answer on the subject wasn't it.
...more moronic commentary please i_am!
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phikebishop
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Ok Jerry
Mutten face jer u so funny....
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mylegsarecold
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How do the words "African American" make those it is applied to inferior to others?
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iam_resurrected
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Technically job applications are being racist in a legal form once an applicant fills it out.
Therefore it was a bit silly of you using them as some sort of definitive answer on the subject wasn't it.
...more moronic commentary please i_am!
they are accepted as a fact by all races looking for employment, therefore it is a form not of discrimination, but of identity.
you should try to figure out the difference el morono
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Mercedes_3
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Comey Is My Homey!~
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rubyrose2015
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they are accepted as a fact by all races looking for employment, therefore it is a form not of discrimination, but of identity.
you should try to figure out the difference el morono
A form of identity you say, what does your race matter when looking for a job, why does your sex matter, or even date of birth? Why do they ask when you graduated from high school? Oh, to identify your date of birth, to find our your age.
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lovethelake17
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I've never been asked when I graduated from high school or what my race was when I applied for a job.
Isn't it illegal for them to ask any of those questions until after you're hired?
They also can't ask your gender though they can assume it from your name. Which always amused me. My husband's name was Lyn so he got a lot of letters for Ms. Lyn XXX.
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phikebishop
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I never understood the whole African American crap. Simply put..If you were born here in America, you are a American.[/quote
When the cops are chasing someone they need to identify someone they say white or Caucasian.
Or Hispanic Latino
It should be Black or Negro Not just he is a American
ps..not all blacks are African....
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rubyrose2015
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I've never been asked when I graduated from high school or what my race was when I applied for a job.
Isn't it illegal for them to ask any of those questions until after you're hired?
They also can't ask your gender though they can assume it from your name. Which always amused me. My husband's name was Lyn so he got a lot of letters for Ms. Lyn XXX.
Obviously, not illegal to ask when you graduated from High school, just a way to get away from asking your age.
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phikebishop
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True! ...Americans are a mixed bunch. No other title is needed.
But remember who Oaf the SS German.....is!
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scoobs78
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Obviously, not illegal to ask when you graduated from High school, just a way to get away from asking your age.
They also wanna know if u have a h.s. Diploma or not
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lovethelake17
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It is illegal for any potential employer to ask any question that can be used to determine age. They cannot ask what year you graduated. They can and will ask for your diploma once you are hired.
From Business Insider
Any questions that reveal your age, race, national origin, gender, religion, marital status and sexual orientation are off-limits.
"State and federal laws make discrimination based on certain protected categories, such as national origin, citizenship, age, marital status, disabilities, arrest and conviction record, military discharge status, race, gender, or pregnancy status, illegal.
Any question that asks a candidate to reveal information about such topics without the question having a job related basis will violate the various state and federal discrimination laws," Lori Adelson, a labor and employment attorney and partner with law firm Arnstein & Lehr, tells Business Insider.
"However, if the employer states questions so that they directly relate to specific occupational qualifications, then the questions may be legitimate. Clearly, the intent behind the question needs to be examined."
WATCH: How To Handle Illegal Questions
If you are asked any inappropriate questions, Adelson advises not to lie, but, instead, politely decline to answer.
From the EEOC website:
Pre-Employment Inquiries (General)
As a general rule, the information obtained and requested through the pre-employment process should be limited to those essential for determining if a person is qualified for the job; whereas, information regarding race, sex, national origin, age, and religion are irrelevant in such determinations.
Employers are explicitly prohibited from making pre-offer inquiries about disability.
Although state and federal equal opportunity laws do not clearly forbid employers from making pre-employment inquiries that relate to, or disproportionately screen out members based on race, color, sex, national origin, religion, or age, such inquiries may be used as evidence of an employer's intent to discriminate unless the questions asked can be justified by some business purpose.
Therefore, inquiries about organizations, clubs, societies, and lodges of which an applicant may be a member or any other questions, which may indicate the applicant's race, sex, national origin, disability status, age, religion, color or ancestry if answered, should generally be avoided.
Similarly, employers should not ask for a photograph of an applicant. If needed for identification purposes, a photograph may be obtained after an offer of employment is made and accepted.
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lovethelake17
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Also from the EEOC website:
Under the laws enforced by EEOC, it is illegal to discriminate against someone (applicant or employee) because of that person's race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information. It is also illegal to retaliate against a person because he or she complained about discrimination, filed a charge of discrimination, or participated in an employment discrimination investigation or lawsuit.
The law forbids discrimination in every aspect of employment.
The laws enforced by EEOC prohibit an employer or other covered entity from using neutral employment policies and practices that have a disproportionately negative effect on applicants or employees of a particular race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), or national origin, or on an individual with a disability or class of individuals with disabilities, if the polices or practices at issue are not job-related and necessary to the operation of the business. The laws enforced by EEOC also prohibit an employer from using neutral employment policies and practices that have a disproportionately negative impact on applicants or employees age 40 or older, if the policies or practices at issue are not based on a reasonable factor other than age.
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miss_tapp
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I never have been a huge fan of her (never found her funny as a comedian). That being said, there seems to be a lot of hypocrisy in the outrage towards her. A lot of these same folks seem to have ignored the death threats and disrespect towards Obama.
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cherisays
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Is death threats against Trump ok?
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ltlwing
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I never have been a huge fan of her (never found her funny as a comedian). That being said, there seems to be a lot of hypocrisy in the outrage towards her. A lot of these same folks seem to have ignored the death threats and disrespect towards Obama.
Maybe it's because she is more well known than the average person putting it out there. I don't remember any well known actor using their star power to make such a bad statement against Obama??? If there was?? Someone needs to refresh my memory?
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miss_tapp
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I guess you forgot about this story a couple of months ago.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/04/quote-of-the-day-ted-nugent-threatens-barack-obama/256025/
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ltlwing
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A lot threats have been made about Trump too. However I don't recall Nuggent representing his thoughts with a severed head?? That's seems a more powerful statement given Isis and the times we are in right now. I think there lies the problem with most.
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miss_tapp
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Like what threats? He's just not popular.
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ms_Champagne
AngualastoAustralian Capital
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Like what threats? He's just not popular.
Would you feel okay and find it funny if a Star 'Comedian' showed themselves,in front of the world, holding a severed head with your face on it? How would you feel? would you sue them? or would you laugh?. yet alone doing it to the President of YOUR Country.. doesn't matter if he is popular or not there is a line no one should cross.
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scoobs78
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FYI our win win win make America great again joke will be 71 this week doesn't mean he's acted like he's any kind of adult lately! Lol dementia has already settled in with him! Paranoia about being wiretapped by obama with no proof and now he "allegedly" has tapes on comey! The old dude is running outta lies and conspiracy theories!
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miss_tapp
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A lot threats have been made about Trump too. However I don't recall Nuggent representing his thoughts with a severed head?? That's seems a more powerful statement given Isis and the times we are in right now. I think there lies the problem with most.
So you think she's in alliance with ISIS?
I will tell you first and foremost that I felt Kathy made a bad move. However, I disagree on Ted Nugent's threat being so tame. A threat to the president is a threat to the president.
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ltlwing
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So you think she's in alliance with ISIS?
I will tell you first and foremost that I felt Kathy made a bad move. However, I disagree on Ted Nugent's threat being so tame. A threat to the president is a threat to the president.
First of all... I didn't say alliance with ISIS. You know what I meant! I said it was more in relation to the times we are living in, which was why it wasn't well received. So if you are confused? I can only attribute that to you not understanding plain English, or that you want to twist this conversation to your advantage? Which is it? I also never said Ted Nugent's was OK either. I also realize however his problem with...Wasn't so visual either.
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sillylaugher61
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FYI our win win win make America great again joke will be 71 this week doesn't mean he's acted like he's any kind of adult lately! Lol dementia has already settled in with him! Paranoia about being wiretapped by obama with no proof and now he "allegedly" has tapes on comey! The old dude is running outta lies and conspiracy theories!
This was aleady covered. Trump and his team were survailed under orders from
KING OBAMA! Trump just chose to use the word wiretap as so everyone knwe what he was saying.
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yetskimama
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@wing
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This KG thing seems to have blown over now.
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