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higgy51
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Navarro, CA
61, joined Nov. 2012


Quote from srv63:
If you had other evidence, you would have already posted it therefore i say your full of shit.

For the record, i gave that one to you only because my gut told me so. You have not PROVED shes part of a janitorial crew.


You haven't proved she was actually IN the FBI, LIKE YOU CLAIMED.

Your gut was telling your head "Don't be so stupid on this one, even a moronic fool with a brain as tiny as 57's can logically see she couldn't be in the FBI and was more than likely a cleaner...HAS IT HAS BEEN SAID SHE WAS, by her husband.

The other evidence srv? I will give you a clue.

Find out the retirement ages of FBI agents and then use some logic from the comments you have already heard.

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higgy51
Over 2,000 Posts (3,075)
Navarro, CA
61, joined Nov. 2012


Quote from srv63:
@ All of the gooberment stooges,

Please tell me what part of the light pole made contact with the windshield of Lloyd Englands cab. Since WE ALL know damn well that should we get in an accident,NEVER disturb the scene of an accident before your insurance company gets there.Am i right???

Why the hell would Lloyde England get the help of a mysterious stranger to get that pole off of his cab before the insurance company can come and take pictures?

If there are pics of the light pole on his car, i would like to see them. Hell, i would be content with a life like visualization of the scene.

Show me how the hell that light pole landed in such a way on his car where it could penetrate thru the windshield deep enough to break thru not only the two layers of glass, but also the thin film between the glass AND in such a way as to not touch a damn bit of the rest of the car,not even the frame which holds the windshield.Keep in mind, these poles weigh 200 pounds so how the hell did this happen without not a damn dent or scratch on his car?

The ONLY damn reason for staging them light poles is to make it more visually believable that a plane hit the pentagon.

Explain this shills or else your whole plane theory is debunked.


Yes, of course, a f**king big plane crashes into the Pentagon and you want to call your insurance company to come out and investigate your car and take photo's of it. You want them to push the FBI/Police out of the way of the crime scene to take a photo of your car so you can claim.

Great Logical thinking.

So, because there are no photo's of this light pole in his car, the plane hitting the pentagon is debunked?

Have you had any more thoughts on HOW they bent the tops of the poles yet?

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57channels
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,916)
Paducah, KY
64, joined May. 2008


Lets see if I got this right. 1] The Naudet brothers just happened to be at a spot where all traffic was blocked off...and flmed the 1st missile hitting the north tower. Then they took their film to the lab, added a fuzzy image of some stupid phony plane to the mix. 2] A jumbo jet we ar told crashed into the Pentagon...but no pieces of any plane laying on the lawn on near the crash site except a piece of a helicopter planted there by the F B I. 3] Then we see a plane with no left wing right before it hit the south tower, then it looked like it landed inside the tower, the nose protruded out the other side of the tower after the flimsy wings cut the steel beams and the evaporated fuel melted the other steel beams.

Seems kind of haphazard for anyone to assume any real airplanes flew on 9-11......but robots are robots and if the Reich says jump...the robotic cowards oink " How High "

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srv63
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from higgy51:
Yes, of course, a f**king big plane crashes into the Pentagon and you want to call your insurance company to come out and investigate your car and take photo's of it. You want them to push the FBI/Police out of the way of the crime scene to take a photo of your car so you can claim.

Great Logical thinking.

So, because there are no photo's of this light pole in his car, the plane hitting the pentagon is debunked?

Have you had any more thoughts on HOW they bent the tops of the poles yet?


So a big f**kin plane (as you called it) knocks a pole onto Lloyde Englands car,therefore it's not his insurance companies problem? Who the hell do you think he most likely is on the phone with while he's being photographed with his car? If it's not the insurance company, then who else? Maybe his barber? Let us assume that his cab was part of this whole plane crash scene seeing as the pole knocked down onto his cab was knocked down by the plane.Would you not agree? Welllllll, the fbi should have took many pictures and documented everything as well as take a statement. While taking the statement of Mr Englands accounts, they would find out that he as well as a mysterious stranger removed the pole from Mr Englands car and thru that investigation would insist on exactly how the pole was laying on Mr Englands car as to get an idea if he is just trying to pull insurance fraud as to claim his cab is part of the crash scene or if he is legit. If the 9/11 commission had done their job right, they ALSO would want to know these things as well.

Here right after the pentacon plane hoax and Mr England is there standing with his cab with a smashed in windshield and NOONE investigates? What did Mr England do,just drive his cab home with a windshield so smashed in its impossible to see thru it?And then even days,weeks and months later the fbi(notice no caps because caps means something important) never comes to talk to him because they THOUGHT he was dead? Give me a f**kin break

So again shills, i ask you what part of the pole smashed in his windshield and after you finally answer, i'm going to DEBUNK you and your bosses bullshit story.

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srv63
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from 57channels:
Lets see if I got this right. 1] The Naudet brothers just happened to be at a spot where all traffic was blocked off...and flmed the 1st missile hitting the north tower. Then they took their film to the lab, added a fuzzy image of some stupid phony plane to the mix. 2] A jumbo jet we ar told crashed into the Pentagon...but no pieces of any plane laying on the lawn on near the crash site except a piece of a helicopter planted there by the F B I. 3] Then we see a plane with no left wing right before it hit the south tower, then it looked like it landed inside the tower, the nose protruded out the other side of the tower after the flimsy wings cut the steel beams and the evaporated fuel melted the other steel beams.

Seems kind of haphazard for anyone to assume any real airplanes flew on 9-11......but robots are robots and if the Reich says jump...the robotic cowards oink " How High "


How the hell can you forget flight 93 57channels, the most believable one of all. A boeing 767 plunges into the earth straight down and 3/4 of everything sink into the ground and the other 1/4 is busted up into pieces so small, they can fit into your hand.OH WAIT, then the debris field is located 8 miles away where they were carried there by the wind

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funwithmusic
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (14,907)
Chapel Hill, NC
60, joined Feb. 2007


Quote from srv63:
How the hell can you forget flight 93 57channels, the most believable one of all. A boeing 767 plunges into the earth straight down and 3/4 of everything sink into the ground and the other 1/4 is busted up into pieces so small, they can fit into your hand.OH WAIT, then the debris field is located 8 miles away where they were carried there by the wind





YOU MEAN TO TELL ME YOU DONT BELIEVE THAT STORY? WOW...WHAT A TOTAL NUTTER CONSPIRACY THEORIST YOU ARE..








CHECK THIS PHOTO OUT..THEY ARE SELLING THIS AS THE SHANKSVILLE CRASH..CEPT..ITS A CORN FIELD..NOT TREES AND A FOREST...BUT A CORN FIELD..there was no corn field around the ABANDONED MINE..used for this false flag lie..[

This is the 'traditional' Shanksville Photo..notice the trees...NO CORN FIELD.


DA PLANE..DA PLANE...I FOUND DA PLANE..and if you dont believe the news story ..your a mentally ill conspiracy theorist aluminum hat wearing un sympathetic un empthatic hateful person.

AFTER ALL..PEOPLE ARE BURIED DOWN THERE IN THAT HOLE..and even though we drill hundred of feet into the ground...THEY ARE UNABLE TO DIG UP THIS SUPPOSED PLANE THAT CRASHED IN THAT ABANDONED MINE


IF WHAT THE GOV CLAIMS IS TRUE..THEN HOW COME THEY DONT JUST DIG THE PLANE UP? ..


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funwithmusic
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (14,907)
Chapel Hill, NC
60, joined Feb. 2007


Quote from srv63:
How the hell can you forget flight 93 57channels, the most believable one of all. A boeing 767 plunges into the earth straight down and 3/4 of everything sink into the ground and the other 1/4 is busted up into pieces so small, they can fit into your hand.OH WAIT, then the debris field is located 8 miles away where they were carried there by the wind


8 MILES FROM THAT SCRAP YARD..


Photo of FBI planting plane parts at Shanksville


How come OFFICIALS NEVER TOOK PHOTOS OF THE THINGS THEY CLAIM THEY FOUND IN THE 'POND"?


Now that you're probably curious as to what was actually found in the pond (or woods for that matter) we can probably identify what this mystery part was by the photos taken of it at the scene:


Did you see it?

No?

That's because officials never took any, or at least never released any.

Hmm, kinda weird they never showed us any photos of this large piece from Flight 93 that was reportedly recovered from the pond, or found in the woods.

(or was it found in the bushes???)

So what about the engine seen being excavated from the crater in that photo that wasn't released until 4 1/2 years after 9/11?

Is it from a Pratt & Whitney PW2037 engine, the kind Flight 93 had?


Kinda hard to tell since it's so smashed up.

But let's assume it is for the sake of argument.

The obvious first question about this engine is why is it only a few feet under the surface when officials said the black boxes were recovered 15ft & 25ft underground?


Also, doesn't this engine look kind of old and rusted?

Right about now it should start becoming obvious that this is a planted engine scrap.

But planted how and when?

There was a person living in a cottage right around the corner and there is a scrap yard right up the street in plain view.


How were the perps able to plant such an engine scrap without being noticed?

Seems unlikely that they dug up the field and planted it before the "crash".

So realistically, the perps would have to have planted it sometime afterwards.

HOODWINKED AT SHANKSVILLE@
http://hoodwinkedatshanksville.blogspot.com/2007/09/little-engine-that-couldnt.html



But how could they have done that with so many responders stationed at the scene?




Well, it helps when the piece of debris you are planting fits neatly in the equipment you are "excavating" it with!

MUSIC:
The engine of a BOEING 747 WEIGHS 10,000 POUNDS..this is obviously a total fake


They just used one of their excavators at the scene and simply lowered it down for a nice little photo-op.

Didn't you notice the engine scrap was small enough to fit in the backhoe bucket?


And that no dirt is caked on it after supposedly burrowing down "soft soil" at nearly 600mph?!


And all those responders that were stationed next to the crater would have only seen the backside of the backhoe bucket.


And if it can’t get more obvious the perps threw little pieces of shiny aluminum in the crater to try to make their staged photo-op look more real.




WHATS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?
BOEING 747 ENGINE



MURRAY STREET NEW YORK WTC . THE MURRAY ST SIGN SHOWS YOU THIS IS A VERY VERY SMALL ENGINE..



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srv63
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


@ Fun,

Hold your horses on that shanksville hoax. We don't want to go there until ALL of the gooberment stooges here answer my 5 questions from a few pages back then i can bury their brainless asses just like 3/4 of their mystery plane flight 93

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tragicparrot
Over 1,000 Posts (1,357)
Painesville, OH
57, joined Mar. 2014


Quote from funwithmusic:


FYI funwith most commercial jet engines weigh upwards of 40,000 lbs. Even an engine ripped of all its outer components due to impact (like the one pictured on the right) will still weigh at least 3 to 4,000 lbs. If what your trying to suggest is that the dolly pictured in the foreground is what was used to deliver or pick up what's left, you are sadly mistaken.

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tragicparrot
Over 1,000 Posts (1,357)
Painesville, OH
57, joined Mar. 2014


Quote from srv63:
How the hell can you forget flight 93 57channels, the most believable one of all. A boeing 767 plunges into the earth straight down and 3/4 of everything sink into the ground and the other 1/4 is busted up into pieces so small, they can fit into your hand.OH WAIT, then the debris field is located 8 miles away where they were carried there by the wind


Not sure where you came up with flight 93's flight tragectory, but it did not plunge straight down into earth as this would also contradict theories that anything other than a plane (such as a missile) struck the Pentagon.

As for the small pieces left behind by flight 93, here are some other similar examples of wreckage you might care to comment on. And mind you, neither of these struck a building....

Sosoliso Airlines, Nigeria, 10 December 2005



Airblue, Pakistan, 28 July 2010



Golden Aviation, Colorado, 2 October 1970



Thoughts?

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class5
Over 1,000 Posts (1,348)
Queensland
Australia
51, joined Jan. 2014


Quote from 57channels:
c l-----ass

I saw the hour documentary that was on tv some 12 years ago and Jim Miegs was the idiot who tried to back up the official ,lie. For 1 solid hour......all he did was use idiotic metaphors and shallow straw man arguments to try and back up the official lie. It was the most pathetic, shallow, hollow, example of some govt. stooge trying to make the sheep think 19 Arabs pulled off the biggie. I bet the piece of govt. dung [ JIm Miegs ] hasnt looked in the mirror ever since....and YOU are exactly like him with your straw man arguments and your pathetic little offensive tactics that only tragic and higgy can stomach. A shill gets cornered.......all it can do is go on some stupid nonsensical offensive tactic rather than logically debating. Keep asking for 100% proof...when there is no 100% proof of anything


What a ridiculously vapid response. You cannot provide any evidence to support your claim that the planes didn't exist. It's that simple.

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class5
Over 1,000 Posts (1,348)
Queensland
Australia
51, joined Jan. 2014


Quote from srv63:
Explain this shills or else your whole plane theory is debunked.


Non Sequitur. Revise logic, and please dispense with endless ad hominems and fallacies.

Note: Because someone can't explain something to you does not make the theory false. It simply means that someone can't explain something to you.

See? It is flawed logic to assume that one necessarily follows the other because you want it to.



[Edited 6/20/2015 10:23:42 PM ]

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class5
Over 1,000 Posts (1,348)
Queensland
Australia
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Quote from srv63:
As i bring emphasis to the highlighted statement above, i'm sure you gooberment stooges have proof of Lloyde Englands wife being in the janitorial service. Now lets see it


I see you clearly misunderstood my post. Good for you. Whether she was in the FBI or not is immaterial and it is merely innuendo by association and invalid.

That was the point.



[Edited 6/20/2015 10:29:49 PM ]

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class5
Over 1,000 Posts (1,348)
Queensland
Australia
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Quote from srv63:
I see how you shills work. When you have no answers, you try to change the subject.


No, you deluded redneck, it's called 'catching you lying'.


Why should it matter if she is/was employed by the FBI in whatever capacity? You don't seem to be able to get it through your thick skull that this is immaterial and merely an attempt to discredit the cab driver via innuendo.

Only idiots like you would fall for that one.

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class5
Over 1,000 Posts (1,348)
Queensland
Australia
51, joined Jan. 2014


Quote from funwithmusic:
WHATS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?
BOEING 747 ENGINE



MURRAY STREET NEW YORK WTC . THE MURRAY ST SIGN SHOWS YOU THIS IS A VERY VERY SMALL ENGINE..


Here's a big clue:

One is from a 747 and the one on Murray St. isn't. This is sad to watch. You don't know what of type of engine belongs in what plane, and you don't know what type of plane struck the twins.

You're not alone, SRV has the same disability.



[Edited 6/20/2015 10:49:17 PM ]

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higgy51
Over 2,000 Posts (3,075)
Navarro, CA
61, joined Nov. 2012


Quote from srv63:
So a big f**kin plane (as you called it) knocks a pole onto Lloyde Englands car,therefore it's not his insurance companies problem? Who the hell do you think he most likely is on the phone with while he's being photographed with his car? If it's not the insurance company, then who else?


Logic again srv...HIS WIFE.

If I was involved in something like that, I sure as hell would phone my wife first to tell her I was okay. Or maybe the police first because you need a report from them to give to your insurance company.

I would not be on the phone to them before I phoned the wife and the police first!

LOGIC.

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srv63
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from tragicparrot:
Not sure where you came up with flight 93's flight tragectory, but it did not plunge straight down into earth as this would also contradict theories that anything other than a plane (such as a missile) struck the Pentagon.

As for the small pieces left behind by flight 93, here are some other similar examples of wreckage you might care to comment on. And mind you, neither of these struck a building....

Sosoliso Airlines, Nigeria, 10 December 2005



Airblue, Pakistan, 28 July 2010



Golden Aviation, Colorado, 2 October 1970



Thoughts?


Believe me parrot, i have alot better photos of what a real crash site should look like. So tell me, what is the angle of the crash of flight 93? I have heard so many theories from the idiots in gooberment that i lost track. What does your senses tell you?

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higgy51
Over 2,000 Posts (3,075)
Navarro, CA
61, joined Nov. 2012


Quote from funwithmusic:
[MUSIC:
The engine of a BOEING 747 WEIGHS 10,000 POUNDS..this is obviously a total fake


Yes, it most likely does weigh that much, but so what?

Flight 93 wasn't a 747 you dumb broad!!

I do wish you would try to pay attention to detail, makes you look so stupid when you get your shit wrong, but hey, that's not hard for you is it?

We know you won't address this post, or the other that has been pointed out that you were, ONCE AGAIN, wrong and quoted yet another 747 engine!

Christ, you are one dumb broad.
.

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higgy51
Over 2,000 Posts (3,075)
Navarro, CA
61, joined Nov. 2012


Quote from srv63:
@ Fun,

Hold your horses on that shanksville hoax. We don't want to go there until ALL of the gooberment stooges here answer my 5 questions from a few pages back then i can bury their brainless asses just like 3/4 of their mystery plane flight 93


You will have a long wait. You have no authority to tell any of us what to do.

You have had two answers, so bring it on Conspiracy Nutcase, bring it on.

BUT be prepared to be debunked again.

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higgy51
Over 2,000 Posts (3,075)
Navarro, CA
61, joined Nov. 2012


Quote from srv63:
What does your senses tell you?


That you hate to get debunked and that is why you refuse to "bring it on" with this wonderful piece of information.

You keep trying to discuss the angle of the plane, demanding answers, yet you refuse or cannot answer how the tops of the light poles got bent!

Manage to work out why his wife couldn't be IN the FBI as an Agent yet srv?

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srv63
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from class5:
Here's a big clue:

One is from a 747 and the one on Murray St. isn't. This is sad to watch. You don't know what of type of engine belongs in what plane, and you don't know what type of plane struck the twins.

You're not alone, SRV has the same disability.


Finally, the queer aussie shill has buried his foot in his worthless trap. I don't know if fun realizes it or not but she is RIGHT and the f*ggot shill is WRONG. The engine on Murray Street is a JTD9 engine with a non-modified cooling duct assembly which was ONLY on the early model 747's.Read it and weep aussie B*TCH

http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/1829738/1/

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srv63
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Here's something interesting. What looks odd about this?





[Edited 6/21/2015 1:41:40 AM ]

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allnurmouf
Freeport, NY
31, joined Oct. 2014


God bless those on 9/11, but lets not get into to the topic of who the original terrorists are. Lets face it, we are living on stolen land right?

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naprinciple
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,284)
West Plains, MO
46, joined Feb. 2014


Quote from allnurmouf:
God bless those on 9/11, but lets not get into to the topic of who the original terrorists are. Lets face it, we are living on stolen land right?




If using fear and intimidation, to influence political policies, is terrorism, you'd need quite a bit of verbal gymnastics and cognitive dissonance, to not see America is a terrorist state

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allnurmouf
Freeport, NY
31, joined Oct. 2014


Quote from naprinciple:
If using fear and intimidation, to influence political policies, is terrorism, you'd need quite a bit of verbal gymnastics and cognitive dissonance, to not see America is a terrorist state


The truth is the truth. The so-called "founding fathers" who came across land that didnt even belong to them were the stepping stone to even more widespread terrorism to soon follow. It just irks me whenever i hear someone refer to 9/11 as "the biggest act of terrorism on u.s. soil", knowing damn well that terrorism was in full effect way before that.

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allnurmouf
Freeport, NY
31, joined Oct. 2014


Honestly, im not saying that the muslim "extremists", if you will, are angels but i look at what they're doing as karma. This country has been invading, bombing & terrorizing other countries for god knows how long, but when something happens here, they got the nerve to call it terrorism if its done by someone else. Gimme a break.

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57channels
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,916)
Paducah, KY
64, joined May. 2008


all

This country has been invading, bombing & terrorizing other countries for god knows how long, but when something happens here, they got the nerve to call it terrorism if its done by someone else. Gimme a break.
========================================================
If its done by someone else??????? 9-11 was DONE by elements of the US Govt./ military and of course Israel's Mossad. You can call it terrorism...but I call it High Treason and mass murder.

The people seeking the truth, the real truth about that day--- want the real culprits held accountable. Don't you??

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tragicparrot
Over 1,000 Posts (1,357)
Painesville, OH
57, joined Mar. 2014


Quote from srv63:
Believe me parrot, i have alot better photos of what a real crash site should look like. So tell me, what is the angle of the crash of flight 93? I have heard so many theories from the idiots in gooberment that i lost track. What does your senses tell you?


"Flight 93 struck the ground at a 40 degree angle almost upside down, hitting right wing and nose first, at a speed of between 563-580 miles per hour. It was carrying approximately 7,000 gallons of Jet A fuel at impact." ... Source >

http://www.nps.gov/flni/learn/historyculture/sources-and-detailed-information.htm

Enough of an angle to completely obliterate a Boeing 757.

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tragicparrot
Over 1,000 Posts (1,357)
Painesville, OH
57, joined Mar. 2014


Quote from 57channels:
all

This country has been invading, bombing & terrorizing other countries for god knows how long, but when something happens here, they got the nerve to call it terrorism if its done by someone else. Gimme a break.
========================================================
If its done by someone else??????? 9-11 was DONE by elements of the US Govt./ military and of course Israel's Mossad. You can call it terrorism...but I call it High Treason and mass murder.

The people seeking the truth, the real truth about that day--- want the real culprits held accountable. Don't you??


I'd say this is a prime opportunity for 57channels and allnurmouf to compare notes. Was the US Government and Mossad responsible for 911? Or was it Al Qaeda because the US kept F'n around in the Middle East?

Lets go fella's!

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57channels
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,916)
Paducah, KY
64, joined May. 2008


tragic

I'd say this is a prime opportunity for 57channels and allnurmouf to compare notes. Was the US Government and Mossad responsible for 911? Or was it Al Qaeda because the US kept F'n around in the Middle East?
=============================================================
I would expect a question like that from Rip Van Winkle who just woke up from a 25 year sleep OR a newscaster whose paid for spreading propaganda. Someone like Joseph Goebbels who got the German sheeple all roused up to go to war.

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tragicparrot
Over 1,000 Posts (1,357)
Painesville, OH
57, joined Mar. 2014


Quote from 57channels:
tragic

I'd say this is a prime opportunity for 57channels and allnurmouf to compare notes. Was the US Government and Mossad responsible for 911? Or was it Al Qaeda because the US kept F'n around in the Middle East?
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I would expect a question like that from Rip Van Winkle who just woke up from a 25 year sleep OR a newscaster whose paid for spreading propaganda. Someone like Joseph Goebbels who got the German sheeple all roused up to go to war.


Considering the vast number of witnesses you've claimed are being paid to keep their mouths shut, i'd say its no wonder the US Government is still trillions of dollars in debt!

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Considering the vast number of witnesses you've claimed are being paid to keep their mouths shut, i'd say its no wonder the US Government is still trillions of dollars in debt!
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No one knows if or how many of the so-called eyewitnesses are being paid off or threatened [ families threatened ] Those who wont sell out--do get threatened I'm sure...... Ron Paul is a good example.

Yes, you do make a good point though about all the stolen money. All the gold that was stolen from the vaults below the WTC BEFORE 9-11. The 2.3 trillion stolen from the Pentagon or if you will [ unaccounted for ] Rumsfeld said on 9-10. The put options on airline stock sold before 9-11 [ gee..did somebody know about 9-11 ? ] The trillions that will be made by the CIA now that the poppies are in full bloom in Afghanistan. The oil in Iraq and the pipeline in Afghanistan and on and on.

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tragic

Considering the vast number of witnesses you've claimed are being paid to keep their mouths shut, i'd say its no wonder the US Government is still trillions of dollars in debt!
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No one knows if or how many of the so-called eyewitnesses are being paid off or threatened [ families threatened ] Those who wont sell out--do get threatened I'm sure...... Ron Paul is a good example.

Yes, you do make a good point though about all the stolen money. All the gold that was stolen from the vaults below the WTC BEFORE 9-11. The 2.3 trillion stolen from the Pentagon or if you will [ unaccounted for ] Rumsfeld said on 9-10. The put options on airline stock sold before 9-11 [ gee..did somebody know about 9-11 ? ] The trillions that will be made by the CIA now that the poppies are in full bloom in Afghanistan. The oil in Iraq and the pipeline in Afghanistan and on and on.


I never made any point about stolen money. Besides, the so called 2.3 trillion you claim had been "stolen", had already been addressed earlier in this thread. Did you miss it somehow? See here...

http://www.911myths.com/html/rumsfeld__9_11_and__2_3_trilli.html

And here...

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/12/one-of-dumber-things-deniers-claim.html

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Looky here 57channels. I found this way back on page 16.

Please show proof where Rumsfeld, or anyone else for that matter, stated 2.3 trillion is missing.

An excerpt from Rumsfeld's Dept of Defense speech, part of which twoofers like to leave out so's they can go ape shit...

"The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible."

The idea here, is that by placing the statement in context instead of a stand alone statement completely debunks any conspiracy theory that states the money is missing or stolen.

Care to elaborate on this 57channels? Maybe show proof where Rumsfeld stated 2.3 mill was MISSING

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we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions.
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unacounted for is the same thing or you gonna nit pick. Any explanation to the empty vaults???? put options on airline stock?? They also cannot be tracked ......so forgettabout it huh???

The Patriots wont ever forget about it

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Finally, the queer aussie shill has buried his foot in his worthless trap. I don't know if fun realizes it or not but she is RIGHT and the f*ggot shill is WRONG. The engine on Murray Street is a JTD9 engine with a non-modified cooling duct assembly which was ONLY on the early model 747's.Read it and weep aussie B*TCH

http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/1829738/1/


There is actually a post in that thread which debunks the whole thing. Did you miss it?

LOLOL Self-debunking truthers. Love it.

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There is actually a post in that thread which debunks the whole thing. Did you miss it?

LOLOL Self-debunking truthers. Love it.


Obviously they chose to forgettaboutit.



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Obviously he chose to forgettaboutit.


I contacted Beachnut at ISF. You may have seen his posts regarding the aircraft. He was a test pilot and he debunked all Balsamo's claims on Pilots 4 Truth.

He will sort out this engine canard once and for all.

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I contacted Beachnut at ISF. You may have seen his posts regarding the aircraft. He was a test pilot and he debunked all Balsamo's claims on Pilots 4 Truth.

He will sort out this engine canard once and for all.


I remember many of Beachnut's posts, especially those that countered a fellow named Jango. If I recall, Beachnut was quite the contributor whenever it came to debunking various truther CT's. Pretty sure he's still active at ISF, so hopefully you'll soon get a response. Granted, there's not much left of the "truther" movement. Why else would they hang out at a dating website?



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Quote from class5:
I contacted Beachnut at ISF. You may have seen his posts regarding the aircraft. He was a test pilot and he debunked all Balsamo's claims on Pilots 4 Truth.

He will sort out this engine canard once and for all.


Your buddy (so called test pilot but most likely a computer gamer) has had 14 years to debunk the engine on Murray St.How many more years will he need?

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Your buddy (so called test pilot but most likely a computer gamer) has had 14 years to debunk the engine on Murray St.How many more years will he need?


You just assumed that he hasn't debunked it already. That's quite thick of you and Beachnut probably did it years ago knowing him. Just wait for the proof and keep your brain dead comments to yourself.

Remember Bottom-Feeder, you have the burden of proof here, not me, or anyone else for that matter.

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Tho this illustration is not accurate as far as the angle of the plane hitting the tower or the exact direction that the engine would travel, the most important thing is the actual view of this photograph to be able to put this whole hoax into perspective.We know the plane (supposedly) hit almost center of the building at a bit of a left bank and we know where the exit hole was on the opposite side in the corner of the building.Now draw a straight line toward the corner of Murray St. and Church St.



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srv63
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Quote from class5:
You just assumed that he hasn't debunked it already. That's quite thick of you and Beachnut probably did it years ago knowing him. Just wait for the proof and keep your brain dead comments to yourself.

Remember Bottom-Feeder, you have the burden of proof here, not me, or anyone else for that matter.


There is NO debunking the fact about that engine on Murray St. It is without a doubt NOT from a Boeing 767 so forget about your usual nights of jacking off while watching the tele or late nights of video games, it's time to plant your a** for endless hours in front of that computer researching that engine and try to debunk me. You could always copy and paste some bullshit trying to mislead or better yet, just try and change the subject like you stooges always do but guess what, i have a barrage more of shit headed your way.

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There is NO debunking the fact about that engine on Murray St. It is without a doubt NOT from a Boeing 767


Yet you haven't provided any proof. Why is that?

so forget about your usual nights of jacking off while watching the tele or late nights of video games,


I don't do that, but thanks for the brain dead projections because it just helps to expose your idiocy and I'm good with that.

it's time to plant your a** for endless hours in front of that computer researching that engine and try to debunk me.


LOL. I don't have to do anything and I doubt it would take more than a couple of minutes. I know you're a d*ckhead, because I've told you this repeatedly and it still doesn't sink in, but I don't have the burden of proof Bottom feeder, you do. LOLOL

You could always copy and paste some bullshit trying to mislead or better yet


No, that's your gig, I just expose your lies.

just try and change the subject like you stooges always do


It's called cacthing you lying, Knob Jockey.


but guess what, i have a barrage more of shit headed your way.


I don't doubt you're full of shit for a moment.



So, clearly this is your escape clause for when I get the proof. If you just dismiss evidence out of hand like that, you're not worth my time.

I'm sorry, but it would be nice if one of you were actually a thinker instead of a robot.

It looks like 'game over' guys. This prick isn't interested in evidence, or reality.



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Tho this illustration is not accurate as far as the angle of the plane hitting the tower or the exact direction that the engine would travel, the most important thing is the actual view of this photograph to be able to put this whole hoax into perspective.We know the plane (supposedly) hit almost center of the building at a bit of a left bank and we know where the exit hole was on the opposite side in the corner of the building.Now draw a straight line toward the corner of Murray St. and Church St.



So you assume the engine did not encounter any obstructions between the impact and the place of rest? Ok, so predictably, you have not given any thought to such variables.

Do you have the data? Not a crayon drawing, but the data to prove it couldn't have landed there, because without that, this isn't worth bothering with, and it just becomes another worthless argument from incredulity.


Hard data, guys, not threads on idiot sites or pictures with crayon. The Real Deal.



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