Gotta agree

I think that a lot of men have this hot & cold thing going on with them for some reason...
even those without PTSD.

im2 - I am not full of shit. I have lived around many with PTSD. Like anything else, cases vary by severity...but a mild case can become severe in an instant. That is when sufferers often kill themselves...or someone else.

Yes you are full of shit and a heartless bastard to add to it.

I hate to break it to you luv...he's not wrong.

PTSD comes in too many degrees to classify. Maybe he was being snarky, but not everyone with PTSD is fit to date. Some are; they're effects are minuscule to mild. Some however are severely unkempt. I did 8 1/2 the hard way in the Marines and Navy. Do I have PTSD? Probably to some degree; my involvement in the Iraq war costed me my family. However, there is a certain violent reality that speaking to someone one day and burying them the next has on the human psyche. We aren't designed to process loss in that way, so it shocks the system.

In many ways, it's more merciful to give people like that time, space and friendship than it is to give them a 'ride'. The implications of being close to someone like that are considerable. I won't go into all of the ones I've seen, but lets just say that it is far to much for the casual dater to invest.

And the reason I say that, you act like anyone who has anything at all wrong with them is entirely broken, useless and undeserving of veing loved.

In this crazy world we are all broken and deserving of knowing we are loved.

You seriously need your a** kicked and should be ashamed.

PTSD is a severe form of Depression. It is treatable, and anyone who has it can damned well get it cured before they try to become involved with me. I don't have the time, or inclination, to dole out pity 24-7, and look over my shoulder, constantly, for The Big Blow Up. I won't be anyone's unpaid Shrink+Nurse+Surrogate Mommy just because they are too lazy to grow the f**k up, and get over it. I have been through much worse than most people have, and I do NOT have PTSD...because I choose to not have it. I moved on, and got a life, and I live it. Anyone else can do likewise...IF they WANT to. Those who don't want to-who prefer to wallow in pity, fear, etc-can damned well do so without me.

Ohhhhhh please you cant choose not to have ptsd....and you think you've been through worse...just because you don't have it doesn't lessen other people's pain and trauma that do have it and certainly doesn't make them any less of a person...I gotta call bullshit on this one...sorry...ptsd is not a severe form of depression that is also bullshit its a symptom of ptsd that's it....


How does PTSD develop?

Most people who go through a trauma have some symptoms at the beginning. Only some will develop PTSD over time. It isn't clear why some people develop PTSD and others don't.

Whether or not you get PTSD depends on many things:
•How intense the trauma was or how long it lasted
•If you were injured or lost someone important to you
•How close you were to the event
•How strong your reaction was
•How much you felt in control of events
•How much help and support you got after the event



Symptoms of PTSD


PTSD is diagnosed after a person experiences symptoms for at least one month following a traumatic event. However symptoms may not appear until several months or even years later. The disorder is characterized by three main types of symptoms:
•Re-experiencing the trauma through intrusive distressing recollections of the event, flashbacks, and nightmares.
•Emotional numbness and avoidance of places, people, and activities that are reminders of the trauma.
•Increased arousal such as difficulty sleeping and concentrating, feeling jumpy, and being easily irritated and angered.

Diagnosis criteria that apply to adults, adolescents, and children older than six include those below. Read more details here.

Exposure to actual or threatened death, serious injury, or sexual violation:

•directly experiencing the traumatic events
•witnessing, in person, the traumatic events
•learning that the traumatic events occurred to a close family member or close friend; cases of actual or threatened death must have been violent or accidental
•experiencing repeated or extreme exposure to aversive details of the traumatic events (Examples are first responders collecting human remains; police officers repeatedly exposed to details of child abuse). Note: This does not apply to exposure through electronic media, television, movies, or pictures, unless exposure is work-related.

The presence of one or more of the following:

•spontaneous or cued recurrent, involuntary, and intrusive distressing memories of the traumatic events (Note: In children repetitive play may occur in which themes or aspects of the traumatic events are expressed.)
•recurrent distressing dreams in which the content or affect (i.e. feeling) of the dream is related to the events (Note: In children there may be frightening dreams without recognizable content.)
•flashbacks or other dissociative reactions in which the individual feels or acts as if the traumatic events are recurring (Note: In children trauma-specific reenactment may occur in play.)
•intense or prolonged psychological distress at exposure to internal or external cues that symbolize or resemble an aspect of the traumatic events
•physiological reactions to reminders of the traumatic events

Persistent avoidance of distressing memories, thoughts, or feelings about or closely associated with the traumatic events or of external reminders (i.e., people, places, conversations, activities, objects, situations)

Two or more of the following:

•inability to remember an important aspect of the traumatic events (not due to head injury, alcohol, or drugs)
•persistent and exaggerated negative beliefs or expectations about oneself, others, or the world (e.g., “I am bad,” “No one can be trusted,” "The world is completely dangerous").
•persistent, distorted blame of self or others about the cause or consequences of the traumatic events
•persistent fear, horror, anger, guilt, or shame
•markedly diminished interest or participation in significant activities
•feelings of detachment or estrangement from others
•persistent inability to experience positive emotions

Two or more of the following marked changes in arousal and reactivity:

•irritable or aggressive behavior
•reckless or self-destructive behavior
•hypervigilance
•exaggerated startle response
•problems with concentration
•difficulty falling or staying asleep or restless sleep

Also, clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning not attributed to the direct physiological effects of medication, drugs, or alcohol or another medical condition, such as traumatic brain injury.



Again get your facts straight amusic....

Thexy, I am in full awareness, that PTSD DOES occur. Perhaps you seem to have forgotten, I get to see the brains and blood of one of its victims everytime I walk into my garage.

What I am saying, the symptoms listed, effect most people. Hell, my flawed perception and generalizations about women could be used to qualify me as PTSD. If you read the terminology used, it is very vague.

Stop being defensive, because I am not your enemy regarding the topic.

Mental illnesses can range from minimal symptoms to severe. They are not always a scenario of "You have it or you don't", like say a physical illness.

Ahhhhhhh I thought a lot like you did until I ended up in the hospital...when the mind is stubborn the body relents...and my body just couldn't take it any more....and welllll there is only a few things I have ever really needed and that's to feel loved...safe and supported and I don't mean financially either...

Awful lot of judgement going on in this thread...

It's always easy to identify ignorance, it's usually the voice that is most critical of others.

be well thexy!