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11/28/2014 9:25:09 AM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

sorpstar
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The Knicks don't play better without Melo, they "move" better without him. When he's in, he dominates the ball. There is no flow. No opportunity to cash in on other weapons because they don't have solid ball movement. Now maybe Calderon could help with that but Mel

o is going to be Melo.


To me if that's true then melo has not bought in to triangle ....the rest of team is fouling and defense is porous...I have seen melo pass more it but when Knicks are behind he gets ball and shoots...he needs other go to guys on floor with him and that is not coming soon enough...and maybe we have to get players with smarts

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11/28/2014 6:08:21 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
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Russell Westbrook is back tonight, I'm predicting 30 shot attempts for him.

11/28/2014 6:47:50 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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To me if that's true then melo has not bought in to triangle ....the rest of team is fouling and defense is porous...I have seen melo pass more it but when Knicks are behind he gets ball and shoots...he needs other go to guys on floor with him and that is not coming soon enough...and maybe we have to get players with smarts


You can say that about kobe as well this is why I always compare melo to kobe their both in the exact situations this season. Try to get teammates involve doesn't work try hero ball but ultimately leads to the media and haters bashing both kobe and melo from sources such as the ny daily news, la times, BSPN(lol) etc etc

11/28/2014 7:17:59 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
yourkingliness
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Nobody is questioning Melo, the guy is shooting 48% from the field and 41% from three while attempting the least shots of his career (18)

Kobe on the other hand is shooting 38% from the field & 29% from three while attempting the most shots in the NBA (23)

Anyone with half a brain knows who is derailing their team...



[Edited 11/28/2014 7:20:49 PM ]

11/28/2014 7:55:07 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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Still New York as well as espn specifically bill Simmons, skip bayless, the famous frank isola have critized melo for stopping the ball getting away from the flow of the offense when his teammates aren't hitting shots ie.shumpert, hardaway

Again I compare this to the lakers as recent as the game against Memphis when the offense was looking great when lin started off great and kobe was playing as a decoy mainly looking to pass in the 1st half. 2nd half Memphis d tightens up on lin and kobe tries to play hero ball since no one was stepping up

11/28/2014 8:44:09 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

sorpstar
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Without melo again OKC doesnt have double anyone...knicks are missing shots like Carter has liver pills..i tuned into WWE after 68-40 in third period...I'll watch 4th quarter. ..thank goodness rangers won this afternoon. .Westbrook did not miss a step and i hear durant is back in a few days..,watch out contenders, knicks are pretenders...

11/28/2014 9:03:58 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
yourkingliness
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Knicks are a DLEAGUE team without Melo

11/28/2014 9:53:51 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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I feel ya pain sorp reminds me of the nets a couple years back but at first you don't suceed dust ya self off and try again lol(jp). Knicks will get better just need to get their d straighten out. Yes their offense look terrible today but it seems like they were overwhelmed by the return of westbrook.

11/28/2014 11:57:29 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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Ya know lin defense is bad when both MO willams and Levine have career nights against him smh. He made Levine look like Jamal Crawford out there

11/29/2014 1:53:39 AM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
xjd89
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Phil has worked with stars like Melo before. But seriously; once Amar'e's contract is up they might want to think about signing another big name player or it's not going to be a great next season. But if you look at the roster and how they play, Melo has no choice BUT to takeover in some points. Really he's the most consistent player on their team.

11/29/2014 8:54:03 AM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
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Low- Don't feel to sorry, he's making like $4 million this year with zero expectations.




True King he makes a lot of dough but I feel bad for Nerlins in the Basketball aspect... He got hurt his freshmen season at UK before the end of the regular season, sits out all of last season, and this season plays for the worst team in the league....


Welp changing back to the Hornets has made Charlotte play like the old Bobcats

11/29/2014 9:42:50 AM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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Cause their overatted as I said before just cause lance is on that team doesn't mean their automatically gonna become a contender. The fact that their coach is calling him out and sitting him out in crunch time always speaks volumes.

Their main problem is their interior defense and their shooting. Kemba is above average but besides from Gary Neal who is is gonna spread the floor for big al to do his work down low( Marvin willams has been sucking hard for them so don't name him). As for their interor d big al has never been a great defender in protecting the paint ppl are realizing it now cause the media overhyped them after the offensive explosion big al had in the 2nd half of last season which lead them to the playoffs.

11/29/2014 12:37:06 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
yourkingliness
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True King he makes a lot of dough but I feel bad for Nerlins in the Basketball aspect... He got hurt his freshmen season at UK before the end of the regular season, sits out all of last season, and this season plays for the worst team in the league....


Welp changing back to the Hornets has made Charlotte play like the old Bobcats


Kemba Walker & Lance Stephenson are shooting a Kobe Bryant like percentage is why the teams struggling. They'll eventually find their way. Its tough for young guys that play with the ball in their hands get acclimated. I'll still take them over Washington or Toronto in a PLAYOFF series.

11/29/2014 3:18:14 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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Lol u bugging esp over Toronto their clearly building off their success last season. Washington same thing only difference is Washington has more depth then tor via bench and in their frontcourt.

Non the less both have better futures then the Hornets right now.

11/29/2014 3:30:21 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
yourkingliness
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Derozan got hurt last night, but they wouldn't beat Charlotte anyways. They have zero post play... Washington has a bright future because Durant will be playing there in a couple seasons.

11/29/2014 4:33:15 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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Derozan got hurt last night, but they wouldn't beat Charlotte anyways. They have zero post play... Washington has a bright future because Durant will be playing there in a couple seasons.


Idk about that ppl overlook the importance Lowry brings to that team Def improved from being his days of being just a scorer in houston. Yes derozan was playing lights up but Lowry is the orchestra of that team. No surprise their leading the east right now.

11/29/2014 6:05:51 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
yourkingliness
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Lowry is good but who do they have in the post? Big Al would dominate that series. When playoffs start and the game is slowed I see them struggling to score. Perimeter or bust.

11/29/2014 7:08:32 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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Well they did fairly well against brooklyn despite Joe Johnson exposing demar derozan lack of experience in the post. Don't see it as much of an issue cause their defense has vastly improved.

Couple that with the fact the Hornets have trouble guarding the paint. If you thought Lowry was brilliant in that brooklyn series he prolly would average 24 and 10 easy on the hornets. I haven't even mention Lou willams or amir Johnson yet lol raps would win in 6 or 5 easy.

11/30/2014 9:57:51 AM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
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The Raptors remind me of the 2004 Pistons. The Pistons didn't have the best low post game. Sheed was their best. But it was their defense and Larry Brown's coaching of shot control landed them balanced offense. Gotta give them respect. Toronto recovered quickly after the Bosh era. Bosh would actually have a better chance of winning a championship if he went back to THEM Lol

11/30/2014 10:28:21 AM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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True their cap situation is nice as well heading towards the future. It's gonna be intersting to see if Ross numbers go up since derozon injured but time will tell .

11/30/2014 11:02:35 AM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
xjd89
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People was giving Toronto serious flak about picking Ross with that first pick. But Ross is doing great. Looking to be more than just a pogo stick. The east is so vulnerable now. But the teams that are in, they're dangerous. DeRozan needs to hurry up back. I don't want to have to drop him off my fantasy team.

11/30/2014 12:05:57 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
yourkingliness
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The Raptors remind me of the 2004 Pistons. The Pistons didn't have the best low post game. Sheed was their best. But it was their defense and Larry Brown's coaching of shot control landed them balanced offense. Gotta give them respect. Toronto recovered quickly after the Bosh era. Bosh would actually have a better chance of winning a championship if he went back to THEM Lol


Are you smoking crack? Those Pistons didn't have a good post game?? Sheed was still himself in 04. Still had that turnaround shot, and really improved that shot on the perimeter. Then you have Ben Wallace, who was a FOUR time winner of defensive player of the year. Dennis Rodman with shot blocking and without the antics if you will. These two dominated Shaq & Malone in that finals. And you wanna compare Amir Johnson and Jonas Valanciunas to these fringe hall of famers? Lowry is good but no way is he on Billups' level. Derozan and Rip are close in terms of talent but I'd take Hamilton from 2004. I don't even know who plays small forward for the Raptors that you'd compare to Tayshaun Prince. Obviously someone who can't.


What have we learned? Those Lakers would've DESTROYED this Raptors team in a sweep. They have ZERO post play. If you still say those Pistons had no post play you need to be drug tested...



[Edited 11/30/2014 12:06:20 PM ]

12/1/2014 12:48:38 AM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
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12/1/2014 1:17:02 AM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
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TMI.

Lol.

12/1/2014 1:28:58 AM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
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12/1/2014 1:38:50 AM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
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12/1/2014 2:40:01 AM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
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Are you smoking crack? Those Pistons didn't have a good post game?? Sheed was still himself in 04. Still had that turnaround shot, and really improved that shot on the perimeter. Then you have Ben Wallace, who was a FOUR time winner of defensive player of the year. Dennis Rodman with shot blocking and without the antics if you will. These two dominated Shaq & Malone in that finals. And you wanna compare Amir Johnson and Jonas Valanciunas to these fringe hall of famers? Lowry is good but no way is he on Billups' level. Derozan and Rip are close in terms of talent but I'd take Hamilton from 2004. I don't even know who plays small forward for the Raptors that you'd compare to Tayshaun Prince. Obviously someone who can't.


What have we learned? Those Lakers would've DESTROYED this Raptors team in a sweep. They have ZERO post play. If you still say those Pistons had no post play you need to be drug tested...


I said they remind me of how the Pistons were in 04. No other year than that. In 04 they were not the same great eam as 05, 06, and so on. They were still raw but great enough (especially defensively) to beat the Lakers and Pacers. The 04 Pistons did not have much post play. What got them there was defense and great shot selection (Rip Hamilton) Dennis Rodman was retired by 04
And what actually dominated the Lakers was that they could not run the floor with the Pistons they were too old. Amir Johnson wouldn't have gotten dominated by a Karl Malone closing in on his 40s. And the Raptors run the floor. You never know.

12/1/2014 6:39:48 AM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

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Funny u post it when the last 2 games kobe is averaging 5 assists including last night where he had a triple double against the raps.

12/1/2014 9:23:38 AM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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I said they remind me of how the Pistons were in 04. No other year than that. In 04 they were not the same great eam as 05, 06, and so on. They were still raw but great enough (especially defensively) to beat the Lakers and Pacers. The 04 Pistons did not have much post play. What got them there was defense and great shot selection (Rip Hamilton) Dennis Rodman was retired by 04
And what actually dominated the Lakers was that they could not run the floor with the Pistons they were too old. Amir Johnson wouldn't have gotten dominated by a Karl Malone closing in on his 40s. And the Raptors run the floor. You never know.


Well part of why the pistons beated la that year was because they took everyone out outside of kobe and shaq especially fisher who's greatest year offensively with la was that year.

Couple that with the fact prince contained kobe and Larry brown playing shaq straight up with Big Ben rather then double teaming him. I agree that the post didn't defeat la it was more of the pistons as a collective unif putting the clamps on lal supporting cast and kobe outside of game 2 .

12/1/2014 11:33:51 AM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
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Funny u post it when the last 2 games kobe is averaging 5 assists including last night where he had a triple double against the raps.


You act like 5 assists is great. He averages 4 or 5 for his career. Funny how in his best game of the season he still manages to shoot 45%

12/1/2014 12:24:55 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
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I said they remind me of how the Pistons were in 04. No other year than that. In 04 they were not the same great eam as 05, 06, and so on. They were still raw but great enough (especially defensively) to beat the Lakers and Pacers. The 04 Pistons did not have much post play. What got them there was defense and great shot selection (Rip Hamilton) Dennis Rodman was retired by 04
And what actually dominated the Lakers was that they could not run the floor with the Pistons they were too old. Amir Johnson wouldn't have gotten dominated by a Karl Malone closing in on his 40s. And the Raptors run the floor. You never know.


I compared Big Ben to Rodman, except Wallace was a prolific shot blocker unlike Rodman.

You think Amir would've dominated Malone? ? I'm about 80% sure Malone could come out of retirement today and dominate Johnson.

All 5 of those starters were fringe stars for Detroit and all could lock people up on defense, couple that with the Lakers selfish egos the Pistons just flat dominated. Kobe shot about 35% and Shaq was shut down underneath.

12/1/2014 3:39:19 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

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You act like 5 assists is great. He averages 4 or 5 for his career. Funny how in his best game of the season he still manages to shoot 45%


It is giving his age and the amount of talent he has u say u not a kobe hater yet u discredit him every time lal lose for a man @ 36 coming off an acl injury.

12/1/2014 4:24:17 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
yourkingliness
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I like Kobe just hate the selfishness and ego he displays on the court at times. I was a HUGE fan of his from about 98-02. After he ran Shaq off I lost a lot of respect. Speaking of Shaq. He better be getting The Diesel a nice Christmas card thanking him for 3 rings!

As great as Duncan, Kobe and LeBron are, none of them were as physically dominant as Shaq in the early 2000s.

12/1/2014 5:24:11 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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Shaq and kobe needed each other ppl forget kobe coming out party when ppl started to recognize how good he was in that Portland series in 2000 and indy series particularly game 5.

Same thing for wade and shaq my point is both kobe and wade made life easier for shaq @ times point is they needed each other and complimented each other extremely well on the court.

12/1/2014 5:31:38 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

sorpstar
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I like Kobe just hate the selfishness and ego he displays on the court at times. I was a HUGE fan of his from about 98-02. After he ran Shaq off I lost a lot of respect. Speaking of Shaq. He better be getting The Diesel a nice Christmas card thanking him for 3 rings!

As great as Duncan, Kobe and LeBron are, none of them were as physically dominant as Shaq in the early 2000s.



At least those guys shot fouls. ..shaq shoulda been called for more fouls...shaq had to live low the others thrilled us all over the court...
He shoulda worked on his foul shooting instead of his online graduate courses. Lol

12/1/2014 5:44:44 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
xjd89
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I compared Big Ben to Rodman, except Wallace was a prolific shot blocker unlike Rodman.

You think Amir would've dominated Malone? ? I'm about 80% sure Malone could come out of retirement today and dominate Johnson.

All 5 of those starters were fringe stars for Detroit and all could lock people up on defense, couple that with the Lakers selfish egos the Pistons just flat dominated. Kobe shot about 35% and Shaq was shut down underneath.


No Amir wouldn't have dominated Malone. I mean Malone wouldn't have dominated him. Amir has no offense so of course he wouldn't have been a threat to Malone. But Amir has defense and wouldn't have let Malone have it easily.

12/2/2014 1:23:27 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
yourkingliness
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Vic- Anyway you wanna spin it Kobe was the second best player for all three titles. Shaq won all finals MVPs for a reason. Not trying to take TOO much away from Kobe, he still balled. But it is one thing being MJ and another being Pippen. He was the latter. The two titles after Shaq left were way more impressive although he did only shoot 40% one year and won MVP of the finals, which is the worst shooting ever of the MVP.

Sorp- It goes either way. I'll argue Shaq had to deal with more hard fouls than anyone. Guys could get away with being more physical to him for obvious reasons. I don't honestly know if I ever seen Shaq draw an offensive foul.

Xjd- Amir played his first 3 years of his career in the D-League with the Sioux Falls Sky Force for a reason. He's ok but will never be more than a good 6th or 7th man.



[Edited 12/2/2014 1:25:38 PM ]

12/2/2014 3:05:37 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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He was the worst fg shooting MVP but I don't judge a player by their fg percentage. That 2008 year was the best season Sasha vuijach had a huge reason why he was shooting at a good clip was because of kobe setting him up as well as farmar, the caveman Vladimir,Turaif and etc.

He should of won it in 2006 making kwame brown and Luke Walton look good in that suns series

12/2/2014 6:09:59 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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Well well well hornets putting everyone on the block except Kemba and big al

12/2/2014 6:15:31 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
yourkingliness
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Vic- Rank these guys 1-10 in terms of who was best at their peak.

TMac, Iverson, Nash, Parker, Pierce, Gasol, Ray Allen, Ginobili, Kidd, Billups (That's my order btw)

Hornets lost 9 in a row so they're panicking. The only problem is that backcourt is shooting under 40%! I doubt they make a significant trade when they'll only get pennies on the dollar.



[Edited 12/2/2014 6:17:30 PM ]

12/2/2014 6:28:20 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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Vic- Rank these guys 1-10 in terms of who was best at their peak.

TMac, Iverson, Nash, Parker, Pierce, Gasol, Ray Allen, Ginobili, Kidd, Billups (That's my order btw)

Hornets lost 9 in a row so they're panicking. The only problem is that backcourt is shooting under 40%! I doubt they make a significant trade when they'll only get pennies on the dollar.


I agree with the order 1-6 except switch gasol with ray allen cause ray allen was a straight up beast in his bucks and Seattle days. I'll also putt Kidd ahead of Manu cause Kidd was performing at a high level since day 1 turning the then lottery team mavs to a playoff team. So the lineup would be

Tmac
Iverson
Nash
Parker
Pierce
Jesus shuttles worth
Jason Kidd
Manu
Billups

12/2/2014 6:44:19 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
yourkingliness
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I agree with the order 1-6 except switch gasol with ray allen cause ray allen was a straight up beast in his bucks and Seattle days. I'll also putt Kidd ahead of Manu cause Kidd was performing at a high level since day 1 turning the then lottery team mavs to a playoff team. So the lineup would be

Tmac
Iverson
Nash
Parker
Pierce
Jesus shuttles worth
Jason Kidd
Manu
Billups


So you put Gasol between Allen and Kidd? You forgot Pau but that what it sounds like. I can't really disagree with your list. I have Manu above Kidd mostly because his clutch play on championship teams. I'm surprised you have TMac up there too. People forget how good he was. Him, Kobe, LeBron were all pretty equal for a few years. Billups i have last just because the other guys did more things on the court.



[Edited 12/2/2014 6:45:21 PM ]

12/2/2014 7:55:51 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
yourkingliness
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This to me has to be Kobe's most impressive game of the season. He's 0/5 shooting but has 9 assists barely into the 3rd quarter.

On second check he does have 6 turnovers.



[Edited 12/2/2014 7:58:48 PM ]

12/2/2014 8:38:48 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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His game against the clippers and toronto was his best not only for him but for lal as a whole that's the way they should play. Get lin off who's been on a roll lately in 1st halfs the last 3-4 games and some easy dump ins for hill and boozer. Just gotta learn to finish off games more importantly lin needs to learn how to stay aggressive all game same thing for boozer start off extremely well in the 1st then go off to space in the 2nd half that's why they lost to Memphis and the wolves both of which were very winnable.

12/2/2014 8:46:17 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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Must say hill has done wonders with that jumpshot of his driving it to the rim, finishing with hook shots really see his confidence rising. Granted it's against Detroit but I like what I see

12/2/2014 8:58:37 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
yourkingliness
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Yeah that tripple double game was his best... I was just impressed with the 9 assists with only 5 shot attempts thru 2.5 quarters. Kobe does that a few times a year, I call it "weird Kobe"

I didn't watch the game but it seems Nick Young (Swaggy P) is giving them a shot in the arm. I stand by what I TOLD you... This Laker team is more talented than that Cavs team that made the finals. Lin, Swaggy, Hill, Boozer are worse defensively than Gooden, Hughes, Big Z, Snow, but the Lakers guys are light years ahead on offense.

12/2/2014 9:06:43 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
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GORAN DRAGIC is KILLING it right now! Tied his season high in points in only a half! 22 points on 8/10 shooting.

Cavs got a good win today. The big 3 combined for 81 points! It looks like Love is starting to find himself in the offense. Kyrie is taking the backseat to the KING. And they're already doing things offensively the HEAT never could do.

12/2/2014 9:08:03 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

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This team is aight granted there 5 victories 4 of them has gone against the east they got lucky against tor and hou cause derozon was out and howard as well as Terrance jones who both killed lal in the opener was out.

Not gonna say this was impressive cause lal had this game in the bag midway thru the 3rd soon as the 2nd unit comes in Detroit goes on a 10-0 run to cut it to 6... That's inexcusable esp with lal on a back to back play the wizards wed(with nene coming back tommorow smh)

12/3/2014 2:58:05 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
yourkingliness
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Lol how often does Kobe have the same amount of assists as shot attempts? You probably could count that number on one hand.

12/3/2014 3:29:19 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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Well as long as the team is winning that's all that matters it's good to see his teammates are building confidence cause 2 weeks ago they look like crap. Now their decent offensively but still look like crap on defense

12/4/2014 2:56:16 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
yourkingliness
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Vic, before the season who'd you pick to meet in the finals?

12/4/2014 3:26:39 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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Sa and the cavs though if and Big If bogut stays healthy for the warriors I can see them ( as well as Dallas) giving the spurs a run for their money.

I want to say Memphis but tony parker always seems to play well against them. Okc can to but time will tell.

As for the east bulls can the cavs IF gasol and rose can stay healthy and coach thibs doesn't run jimmy butler to the ground like he did deng (overplaying butler to much at the moment)

Would say Washington but nene still hasn't recovered which is troublesome for them . Rest of the east is below par to the point where I think Brooklyn can somehow sneak into the playoffs with their slow pace offense.

12/4/2014 8:18:54 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  
yourkingliness
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I agree with warriors. When they get hot a 20 point lead isn't shit.

Kyrie 23 points in the 2nd quarter!

12/4/2014 8:29:53 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

sorpstar
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And LeBron looks rusty and at foul line too...

12/4/2014 8:35:01 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

sorpstar
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Quote from yourkingliness:
I agree with warriors. When they get hot a 20 point lead isn't shit.

Kyrie 23 points in the 2nd quarter!


0 assists...LeBron 9...hmmmm

12/4/2014 9:17:26 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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I forgot to mention the blazers on teams that can challenge Sa still mad lal gave up on steve Blake like they contributing big time for them as well as kaman.

12/4/2014 9:27:42 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

sorpstar
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Erving first assist with less than 4 minutes in game on trap by lebron and he...melo no show

12/4/2014 9:30:17 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

sorpstar
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Refs should put a tent around their circus

12/4/2014 9:36:36 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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Melo legs not there this game reminds me though amare Is looking great

12/4/2014 9:43:20 PM 2014/15~~NBA talk | Page 7  

vic245
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Knicks pistons lakers = don't know how to close out games I notice growing theme from this young season for all 3 teams.