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11/13/2016 11:00:14 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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President Elect Trump's lawyers have requested that the fraud trial connected to the now failed Trump University be delayed until after the Inauguration.

What are your feelings on that?

What would be a good reason for the delay?




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11/13/2016 11:01:19 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  
korbyn
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No. It should not be delayed.

11/13/2016 11:06:46 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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Quote from korbyn:
No. It should not be delayed.


Are you able to say why?

11/13/2016 11:19:02 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

stl1
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Did Trump relax on Obama and the whole "birther" crapola? Not even after the long form birth certificate was produced!

Karma's a b*tch and Donald has a lot coming back on him.

11/13/2016 11:31:18 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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Quote from stl1:
Did Trump relax on Obama and the whole "birther" crapola? Not even after the long form birth certificate was produced!

Karma's a b*tch and Donald has a lot coming back on him.


Stl, I like you, and appreciate your response.

But, I don't want this to turn into a Obama, Hilary thread.

I am trying to accept Trump as my president.

I am asking for opinions about Trump only.

11/13/2016 11:38:19 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  
Zelda88
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I don't think either that or the Clinton Foundation investigation decision, if there is one, should be done until after the inauguration.

Just for a smooth transition. There is enough strife as it is.

11/13/2016 11:38:33 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

driver406
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They'll keep appealing until he has died of a record old age.

11/13/2016 11:39:24 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

bistia
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Was Clinton's investigation delayed...no...so neither should his...

11/13/2016 11:40:27 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  
ni_hao_muffin
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Actually, I support the delay. He's got a lot to worry about between now and the inauguration. I'd rather he focus on choosing a cabinet and on all the other decisions he needs to make right now. People may not like him, but a delay is probably in the best interest of the country.

11/13/2016 11:40:29 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  
Zelda88
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She wasn't the elected President, just a citizen like you.


Quote from bistia:
Was Clinton's investigation delayed...no...so neither should his...


11/13/2016 11:45:43 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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Quote from ni_hao_muffin:
Actually, I support the delay. He's got a lot to worry about between now and the inauguration. I'd rather he focus on choosing a cabinet and on all the other decisions he needs to make right now. People may not like him, but a delay is probably in the best interest of the country.


So, even if he is guilty of defrauding people, you feel the needs of the many supercede the needs of a few?

I guess I can understand that logic.

But, if he is guilty of fraud, does he have the character to serve the many?

I wish he would clear the issue up.

I mean, many voted for him on the idea that he was more honest than other candidates.

11/13/2016 11:48:44 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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Quote from Zelda88:
She wasn't the elected President, just a citizen like you.


Quote from bistia:
Was Clinton's investigation delayed...no...so neither should his...


Wait...I am even more confused.

Are you saying that ordinary citizens should stand trial no matter what, but a man designated to rule the free world is exempt?

11/13/2016 11:49:36 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  
Zelda88
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It was known, he still won.

11/13/2016 11:51:26 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

stl1
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Donald started and continued the nastiest campaign I have ever witnessed in my lifetime.

I think he will reap what he has sown.

11/13/2016 11:51:37 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  
Zelda88
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No, I'm saying it should be delayed for smooth transition. Not eliminated.

Read my first post.




Quote from missgioia:
Wait...I am even more confused.

Are you saying that ordinary citizens should stand trial no matter what, but a man designated to rule the free world is exempt?


11/13/2016 11:53:02 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  
Zelda88
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AND, she was being investigated, not tried.




Possible 'chatting' detected. You have already posted in this thread recently. Please wait for some other people to reply before posting in this thread again, or wait like an hour or so, whichever comes first. Sorry for the inconvenience.

11/13/2016 11:54:15 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

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Quote from missgioia:
Wait...I am even more confused.

Are you saying that ordinary citizens should stand trial no matter what, but a man designated to rule the free world is exempt?
Well, Hitlery's investigations has been called off twice, so if she can be "above the law", so can everybody..

The FBI's pansy a** handling of her criminal investigation has set an unprecedented standard in the legal community, and her defense is currently being used in trials now.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If a WOMAN can break the law and not go to trial, so can a MAN.

11/13/2016 11:56:01 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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Quote from Zelda88:
AND, she was being investigated, not tried.




Possible 'chatting' detected. You have already posted in this thread recently. Please wait for some other people to reply before posting in this thread again, or wait like an hour or so, whichever comes first. Sorry for the inconvenience.


I understand, Zelda.

And, I appreciate your response.

But, I am not asking about Hilary or Obama.

I am asking if Trump should be allowed to delay his fraud trial until after the Inauguration, and why.

11/13/2016 11:57:11 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  
Zelda88
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I answered that in my first post. C'mon, there aren't that many posts. You needing some drama?

11/14/2016 12:00:38 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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Quote from enigmaathand:
Well, Hitlery's investigations has been called off twice, so if she can be "above the law", so can everybody..

The FBI's pansy a** handling of her criminal investigation has set an unprecedented standard in the legal community, and her defense is currently being used in trials now.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If a WOMAN can break the law and not go to trial, so can a MAN.


Again, it's a republican Congress, a Republican Senate, and a Republican President Elect.

Hilary, Bill, and Obama are none players at this point.

I am being told that as an Ametican, I should get behind Trump.

So, talk to me about Trump, talk to me about his actions, please.

11/14/2016 12:00:42 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  
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Quote from ni_hao_muffin:
Actually, I support the delay. He's got a lot to worry about between now and the inauguration. I'd rather he focus on choosing a cabinet and on all the other decisions he needs to make right now. People may not like him, but a delay is probably in the best interest of the country.




11/14/2016 12:07:03 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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Quote from purdibirdd:


I want to make sure I understand this, even if he defrauded people, you feel it should be ignored?

11/14/2016 12:19:42 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

bistia
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Quote from Zelda88:
She wasn't the elected President, just a citizen like you.


Quote from bistia:
Was Clinton's investigation delayed...no...so neither should his...


I really don't give a damn who he is...he shouldn't get any special treatment...he needs to follow the law just like anyone else...

11/14/2016 12:41:19 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

enigmaathand
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Quote from missgioia:
Again, it's a republican Congress, a Republican Senate, and a Republican President Elect.

Hilary, Bill, and Obama are none players at this point.

I am being told that as an Ametican, I should get behind Trump.

So, talk to me about Trump, talk to me about his actions, please.
Trump was born and raised in New York City and received a bachelor's degree in economics from the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania in 1968.

That means he knows how and what can affect the job market, GDP, and other areas that Obama's excessive spending have nearly caused our country to go bankrupt.

Trump's platform included renegotiation of U.S.–China trade deals, opposition to particular trade agreements, such as NAFTA and the Trans-Pacific Partnership, stronger enforcement of immigration laws together with building a wall along the U.S.–Mexico border, reform of veterans' care, repeal and replacement of the (UN)Affordable Care Act, and tax cuts.

Trump left the school at age 13 and was enrolled in the New York Military Academy (NYMA),[18] in Cornwall, New York where he finished eighth grade and high school. In 1983, Fred Trump told an interviewer that Donald "was a pretty rough fellow when he was small."[19] Trump participated in marching drills, wore a uniform, and during his senior year attained the rank of captain.

This shows he has discipline. Military schools are tougher than that pansy a** public OC school system we are all used to.

In 2006, Miss USA winner Tara Conner tested positive for cocaine, but Trump let her keep the crown, for the sake of giving her a second chance.

While he may say mean things, he clearly showed this woman forgiveness, more than I would of. I would have taken her crown and had her junkie a** thrown in jail, where drug addicts belong.

In 2013 the state of New York filed a $40 million civil suit claiming that Trump University made false claims and defrauded consumers; the lawsuit is ongoing as of 2016.

So, actually, Trump has not broken the Law at a criminal level, UNLIKE Hitlery and Obama. CIVIL means a violation that is not against state law, but MAY be a violation of morality, ethics, etc.

And civil "torts" can be filed for any reason, as long as a judge is willing to hear the case, and they can go to trial by jury.

Also, please note how the State of New York filed this suit. The SAME state that Hitlery Clinton was a senator of....

11/14/2016 12:44:18 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

iam_resurrected
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Quote from stl1:
Donald started and continued the nastiest campaign I have ever witnessed in my lifetime.

I think he will reap what he has sown.




it is Civil Court.
he will get slapped on the hand.
ouch, I promise to never do that again.


11/14/2016 12:53:49 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

bistia
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Quote from enigmaathand:
Trump was born and raised in New York City and received a bachelor's degree in economics from the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania in 1968.

That means he knows how and what can affect the job market, GDP, and other areas that Obama's excessive spending have nearly caused our country to go bankrupt.

Trump's platform included renegotiation of U.S.–China trade deals, opposition to particular trade agreements, such as NAFTA and the Trans-Pacific Partnership, stronger enforcement of immigration laws together with building a wall along the U.S.–Mexico border, reform of veterans' care, repeal and replacement of the (UN)Affordable Care Act, and tax cuts.

Trump left the school at age 13 and was enrolled in the New York Military Academy (NYMA),[18] in Cornwall, New York where he finished eighth grade and high school. In 1983, Fred Trump told an interviewer that Donald "was a pretty rough fellow when he was small."[19] Trump participated in marching drills, wore a uniform, and during his senior year attained the rank of captain.

This shows he has discipline. Military schools are tougher than that pansy a** public OC school system we are all used to.

In 2006, Miss USA winner Tara Conner tested positive for cocaine, but Trump let her keep the crown, for the sake of giving her a second chance.

While he may say mean things, he clearly showed this woman forgiveness, more than I would of. I would have taken her crown and had her junkie a** thrown in jail, where drug addicts belong.

In 2013 the state of New York filed a $40 million civil suit claiming that Trump University made false claims and defrauded consumers; the lawsuit is ongoing as of 2016.

So, actually, Trump has not broken the Law at a criminal level, UNLIKE Hitlery and Obama. CIVIL means a violation that is not against state law, but MAY be a violation of morality, ethics, etc.

And civil "torts" can be filed for any reason, as long as a judge is willing to hear the case, and they can go to trial by jury.

Also, please note how the State of New York filed this suit. The SAME state that Hitlery Clinton was a senator of....


It does not matter were he was born...what school he went to or the dogs he screwed...he can be guilty or innocent... The OP asked if we think his trial should be delayed...If it was you being accused of fraud.... I'm sure the judge wouldn't delay the trail...so why should Trumps be delayed..he wants to make America great again...he needs to show that everyone will be treated fairly and equally no matter who you are..He wants to lead, then he needs to lead by example...

11/14/2016 12:58:09 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  
_Technologist01
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Wait a minute????
Can't be pardon himself?

My son brought up this thought earlier.

11/14/2016 12:59:11 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

iam_resurrected
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he would be impeached but this is a CIVIL matter.

11/14/2016 3:28:02 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  
sarahgoldsmith
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The trial won't really do much harm to him. They don't have enough evidence to get him.

It will hurt his image, & damage his reputation a little bit for being a dishonest business man. But he will still be fine. It won't hurt him that much.

Many women are punishing trump by not buying Ivanka trump's clothing line. She has a very expensive clothing line selling to only rich women. It's only being sold at those luxury stores for rich people. They are punishing trump because he said he wants to grab women by their pussies.

11/14/2016 3:52:41 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  
sarahgoldsmith
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He can't pardon himself or his immediate family members. It would be a conflict of interest. That would be nepotism.

Nepotism is not allowed. He can't hire any of children to be the Vice President. None of his children can work at the White House. He is not allowed to hire them. His children can't work under him. They can work at his private company, but he appoint any of his children to work for him.

11/14/2016 4:06:30 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  
sarahgoldsmith
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Trump can't appoint or hire any of his kids to work for him at the White House. Nepotism is not allowed. Trump's kids can only work for him at his private company. They can't work for him at the White House. Power cannot be handed from father to son if the father is the president of the United States.

The president of the United States is elected not power handed over from father to son. The law won't allow trump to hand his presidency power to his son. If his son wants to be president he has to be elected by the people to get into office.

11/14/2016 6:59:50 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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So, some people feel it should be delayed because he should be allowed to concentrate on choosing his cabinet, etc.

One person pointed out the suit was filed by the state of New York, almost 4 years ago.

At least one person pointed out that even if he is found guilty of defrauding his customers, it's only a civil suit anyway.

I wish I made this a poll.

11/14/2016 7:51:49 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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They are also asking that any statements President Elect Trump made during his campaign be barred from mention during his trial.

11/14/2016 9:31:23 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

iam_resurrected
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Quote from sarahgoldsmith:
Trump can't appoint or hire any of his kids to work for him at the White House. Nepotism is not allowed. Trump's kids can only work for him at his private company. They can't work for him at the White House. Power cannot be handed from father to son if the father is the president of the United States.

The president of the United States is elected not power handed over from father to son. The law won't allow trump to hand his presidency power to his son. If his son wants to be president he has to be elected by the people to get into office.




he has appointed his children to handle his business affairs since that would be a conflict of interest on his part in the white house.

however, since we know 2/3 of his over all wealth comes from Russia, as president he can conduct that business when he meets with Putin


and after they move the us embassy from tel aviv to Jerusalem and move the muslims out due to jerusalm being rightfully Jews...they will help them reconstruct their old holy temple...yay...recreating biblical prophecy to see if it really works....I guess....or Trump is what nostrodamus called him (False Trumpet)(bible = False Prophet)....


this is getting exciting finally



[Edited 11/14/2016 9:33:10 AM ]

11/14/2016 9:46:27 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  
crumpet_dreams
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If you fall for a 'get rich quick' scheme, it's your own damn stupid fault

11/14/2016 9:52:04 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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Quote from Zelda88:
I answered that in my first post. C'mon, there aren't that many posts. You needing some drama?


No drama from me, Zelda.

No name calling.

No ad hominem attacks.

No generalizations regarding conservatives, or liberals.

Just a simple question.

Should the fraud trial be delaued until after the Inauguration. If so why?

Now, I am also asking people for their thoughts on the concept of banning reference to any statements President Elect Trump made during his campaign during the trial.

I think they are fair questions.

11/14/2016 9:55:18 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

iam_resurrected
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I have a triangle which I would like to unveil for all of you.
it will reveal where the wealth is designed to cubilate (triculate/manipulate) within the design system of my triangle so it benefits us all

only for the amazingly low offer of $199, that is 1 dollar less than $200.
so you know this is better than all the other schemes you went broke on.

and for just that low amount, which is mere pennies in today's world you can see my TRIANGLE












to all the people who made money...and them suckers who lost it....God Bless ya all

11/14/2016 10:37:23 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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Quote from crumpet_dreams:
If you fall for a 'get rich quick' scheme, it's your own damn stupid fault


So, it's a good idea to elect someone who takes advantage of people via "get rich quick" schemes?

When he "drains the swamp", and cleans up Washington will he incllude himself?

11/14/2016 11:06:57 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

longbobby
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Quote from missgioia:
So, it's a good idea to elect someone who takes advantage of people via "get rich quick" schemes?

When he "drains the swamp", and cleans up Washington will he incllude himself?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

How many forums are you going to post this thread topic in? You have this thread topic going in both the GD forum and the CE&P forum simultaneously.

11/14/2016 11:08:09 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  
crumpet_dreams
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So, it's a good idea to elect someone who takes advantage of people via "get rich quick" schemes?

When he "drains the swamp", and cleans up Washington will he incllude himself?


If it means America becomes rich at the expense of other countries...hell yes!

(You didn't think that through did you...)



[Edited 11/14/2016 11:08:49 AM ]

11/14/2016 11:21:40 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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Quote from longbobby:
Quote from missgioia:
So, it's a good idea to elect someone who takes advantage of people via "get rich quick" schemes?

When he "drains the swamp", and cleans up Washington will he incllude himself?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

How many forums are you going to post this thread topic in? You have this thread topic going in both the GD forum and the CE&P forum simultaneously.


Is there a rule against that?

I wanted opinions, two forums = more opinions.

11/14/2016 11:22:53 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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Quote from crumpet_dreams:
So, it's a good idea to elect someone who takes advantage of people via "get rich quick" schemes?

When he "drains the swamp", and cleans up Washington will he incllude himself?


If it means America becomes rich at the expense of other countries...hell yes!

(You didn't think that through did you...)


He is duping you, not other countries.

Admit it, the ball cap got to you

11/14/2016 11:27:33 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  

longbobby
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Quote from missgioia:
Is there a rule against that?

I wanted opinions, two forums = more opinions.
------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah, actually there is.

I'm guessing you're unaware of AG Schneiderman's "interest" in the suit.

AG's aren't supposed to have an "interest"; like judges, they are supposed to be impartial.


Martin Armstrong Exposes "The Real Clinton Conspiracy" Which Backfired Dramatically

According to WikiLeaks emails from campaign John Podesta, Clinton colluded with the DNC and the media to raise what they thought would be the extreme right among Republicans to then make her the middle of the road to hide her agenda.



The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee along with mainstream media all called for using far-right candidates “as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right.” Clinton’s camp insisted that Trump should be “elevated” to “leaders of the pack” and media outlets should be told to “take them seriously.”

If we look back on April 23, 2015, just two weeks after Hillary Clinton officially declared her presidential campaign, her staff sent out a message on strategy to manipulate the Republicans into selecting the worse candidate. They included this attachment a “memo for the DNC discussion.”



It was not Putin trying to rig the elections, it was Hillary. Clinton saw the Republican field as crowded and she viewed as “positive” for her. “Many of the lesser known can serve as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right.” Clinton then took the strategic position saying “we don’t want to marginalize the more extreme candidates, but make them more ‘Pied Piper’ candidates who actually represent the mainstream of the Republican Party.”

Her manipulative strategy was to have the press build up Donald Trump, Sen. Ted Cruz and Ben Carson. “We need to be elevating the Pied Piper candidates so that they are leaders of the pack and tell the press to them seriously.”

This conspiracy has emerged from the Podesta emails. It was Clinton conspiring with mainstream media to elevate Trump and then tear him down. We have to now look at all the media who endorsed Hillary as simply corrupt. Simultaneously, Hillary said that Bernie had to be ground down to the pulp. Further leaked emails showed how the Democratic National Committee sabotaged Sanders’ presidential campaign. It was Hillary manipulating the entire media for her personal gain. She obviously did not want a fair election because she was too corrupt.

What is very clear putting all the emails together, the rise of Donald Trump was orchestrated by Hillary herself conspiring with mainstream media, and they they sought to burn him to the ground. Their strategy backfired and now this is why she has not come out to to speak against the violence she has manipulated and inspired.

This is by far the WORST campaign in history and it was all orchestrated by Hillary to be intentionally divisive for the nation all to win the presidency at all costs. She has torched the constitution and the country. No wonder Hillary could not go to the stage to thank her supporters. She never counted on them and saw the people as fools. The entire strategy was to take the White House with a manipulation of the entire election process. Just unbelievable. Any Democrat who is not angry at this is clearly just a biased fool. Wake up and smell the roses. You just got what you deserve.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-12/martin-armstrong-exposes-real-clinton-conspiracy-which-backfired-dramatically

11/14/2016 11:32:17 AM Should the Trial be Delayed  
crumpet_dreams
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He is duping you, not other countries.



Not me, I don't fall for get rich quick schemes, but again, in the scenario painted the US becomes his "business" and the other countries "the saps who get exploited"

so again, it would be great, yes.

11/14/2016 2:42:16 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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Quote from crumpet_dreams:
He is duping you, not other countries.



Not me, I don't fall for get rich quick schemes, but again, in the scenario painted the US becomes his "business" and the other countries "the saps who get exploited"

so again, it would be great, yes.



Circular logic does not make one clever.

11/14/2016 3:26:21 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

M4mischief
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As long as its not criminal I don't see a problem...civil litigation often takes years so its still gonna be there after he is sworn in....now if you're saying he defrauded people...then why wasn't he charged with fraud?...

11/14/2016 3:53:43 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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Quote from M4mischief:
As long as its not criminal I don't see a problem...civil litigation often takes years so its still gonna be there after he is sworn in....now if you're saying he defrauded people...then why wasn't he charged with fraud?...


It's actually Trump University that is being brought to trial. It is a civil suit, and has been going on since 2013.

I believe in giving them their day in court. But, I also think the plaintiff's have waited for quite some time already.

It was suggested by another poster in this thread that the plaintiffs had allowed themselves to be taken by "a get rich quick scheme"

This implied that Trump University was at the very least duplicitous.

That was why I asked the question about having a fraudulent president.

The other poster answered that a fraudulent president would be good for the U.S. because he would trick other countries out of their money.

Yes, I managed to type that with a straight face.

11/14/2016 3:55:52 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

jer3552
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Quote from missgioia:
President Elect Trump's lawyers have requested that the fraud trial connected to the now failed Trump University be delayed until after the Inauguration.

What are your feelings on that?

What would be a good reason for the delay?
...lets postpone the trial till after we put Hillary in prison

11/14/2016 3:56:56 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

M4mischief
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Wellll the thing is he hasn't been found guilty of fraud and even if his defunct university ended up losing a civil suit its still not criminal.....it would be a lot different if he had been charged criminally but he hasn't been....now I have to question why if there is supposedly a question of fraud.....

11/14/2016 4:03:29 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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Quote from jer3552:
...lets postpone the trial till after we put Hillary in prison


Well, I have never suggested that any investigation into Hilary be delayed.

And, if she is ever charged, then I would think she should have a right to a speedy trial.

But, again, it's a Republican Senate, a Republican Congress, and a Republican President.

Obama, Hilary, and Bill aren't players anymore.

I wanted to hear if you felt the Trump University trial should be delayed until after the Inauguration, and why?

Later, I also asked why he requested that any mention of anything he said during his campaign be banned during the trial?

11/14/2016 4:07:35 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

missgioia
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Quote from M4mischief:
Wellll the thing is he hasn't been found guilty of fraud and even if his defunct university ended up losing a civil suit its still not criminal.....it would be a lot different if he had been charged criminally but he hasn't been....now I have to question why if there is supposedly a question of fraud.....


I know it's a civil suit. I understand that many don't think it's a big deal.

So, why delay it?

And, why request the ban on referencinh anything he said during his campaign?

11/14/2016 4:19:46 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  
_Cham
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Quote from bistia:
It does not matter were he was born...what school he went to or the dogs he screwed...he can be guilty or innocent... The OP asked if we think his trial should be delayed...If it was you being accused of fraud.... I'm sure the judge wouldn't delay the trail...so why should Trumps be delayed..he wants to make America great again...he needs to show that everyone will be treated fairly and equally no matter who you are..He wants to lead, then he needs to lead by example...


Yes that is true.. IMO He should be tried like anyone else. He will no doubt let his legal team handle it, since the case has been going on for 4+ years they will no doubt stretch it out for another 2 years...


Quote from missgioia:
They are also asking that any statements President Elect Trump made during his campaign be barred from mention during his trial.


I ask why should any statements President Elect Trump made during the campaign be used in the trial? the charges were made 4 years ago... any statements he made during the campaign have nothing to do with the fraud charges.

11/14/2016 4:20:12 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

stan_147
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So, it's a civil suit with the State of NY as the plaintiff? What compensation (money) are they seeking regarding Trunp U?

In my experience, the plaintiffs are typically individuals, not the state, in civil matters. In criminal complaints it's usually State Vs. Defendant(s).

Then again, all states have different methods.

11/14/2016 4:20:57 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

longbobby
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Quote from missgioia:
It's actually Trump University that is being brought to trial. It is a civil suit, and has been going on since 2013.

I believe in giving them their day in court. But, I also think the plaintiff's have waited for quite some time already.
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I asked you in your copycat thread if you understand what a "frivolus" lawsuit is. You didn't answer my question.

Ordinarily, I might have been inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Thing is, I also posted links showing...

Re-Post:
The Clinton university scandal | New York Post
www.nypost.com/2016/06/12/the-clinton-university-scan...
Jun 12, 2016 ... Nor about the $55 million that Hillary Clinton's State Department sent ... One Laureate component, mostly-online Walden University, even faced its own class- action lawsuit. ... Assassination threats against Trump flood Twitter.

Hillary University: Bill Clinton Bagged $16.46 Million from For-Profit ...
www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/02/h...
Jun 2, 2016 ... With her campaign sinking in the polls, Hillary Clinton has launched a desperate attack against Trump University to deflect attention away from ...

The Clinton University Problem: Laureate Education Lawsuits ...
https://jonathanturley.org/2016/06/08/the-clintons-un...
Jun 8, 2016 ... HomeThe Clinton University Problem: Laureate Education Lawsuits Present ..... I have compared my experience at Walden against any other .
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Lets focus on the 2nd link ... which lets face it, you ignored in your copy cat thread.

Hillary University: Bill Clinton Bagged $16.46 Million from For-Profit ...
www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/02/h...
Jun 2, 2016 ... With her campaign sinking in the polls, Hillary Clinton has launched a desperate attack against Trump University to deflect attention away from ..

With her campaign sinking in the polls, Hillary Clinton has launched a desperate attack against Trump University to deflect attention away from ...

There's a reason this case was filed in 2013 and then sat on the vine for three years.

Frivolous Lawsuit Law & Legal Definition

Frivolous lawsuits are those filed by a party or attorney who is aware they are without merit, because of a lack of supporting legal argument or factual basis for the claims. Frivolous lawsuits waste time, money, and judicial resources, and fines and/or santions may be imposed upon a party or their attorney for filing such a claim.

Frivolous lawsuits may be filed for purposes of harassment or coercion, such as to coerce the defendant into paying more or accepting less money than is rightfully due. They may be filed due to lack of due diligence by an attorney in investigating a client's claim, or other reasons. Generally, the defendant must win the lawsuit before seeking a remedy for the frivolous claim.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/f/frivolous-lawsuit/

This lawsuit is a frivolous lawsuit that was brought to life during an election year "to deflect attention away from" ....Crooked Hillary's ...

Hillary University: Bill Clinton Bagged $16.46 Million from For-Profit ...
www.breitbart.com

AND...

The Clinton university scandal | New York Post
www.nypost.com



Btw? Did you know New York State AG Schneiderman is a Hillary supporter and is dirty? Dirty meaning he is a bribe taker?

I know, I know....Hey, I get it, snowflake. You want to make President Trump look bad and cause people to doubt him all over the forum.

While ignoring anything that upsets your applecart; i.e. your agenda.

Trump hasn't done anything wrong. Crooked Hillary has done a LOT that is wrong. The time for libs pretending to be ostriches with their heads stuck in the sand ignoring all of Crooked Hillary's crimes is over.

You guys need to start facing reality.



[Edited 11/14/2016 4:23:51 PM ]

11/14/2016 4:21:56 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

M4mischief
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I honestly don't know other than a trial takes up a lot of time and im sure trump has a lot on his plate right now that he has to focus on....I don't know why the request about things he said during his campaign.....

11/14/2016 4:23:59 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  
2times2many
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Irdgaff

11/14/2016 5:32:53 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

lovethelake17
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How similar is Trump's fraud case to Jim Bakker's fraud case in the 80's, 90's(?)

He was convicted of bilking people and defrauding them, along with other charges, and was sentenced to many years. I don't think he served all the years.

I mean, was he personally charged or was his company/ministry charged and as head of the company he was ultimately responsible?

I really should look that up.

I ask because it sounds similar--defrauding people of money by making false promises.

In any case, I wouldn't think he'd want it hanging over his head and he'd want vindication or something. I cannot imagine a sitting president going through a trial not connected to something he'd done as president. In other words, I think it would go away after the inauguration. As for not using any statements he uttered throughout his campaign, why should they be excluded?

11/14/2016 5:35:24 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

M4mischief
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There is a big difference between criminal and civil though lake....this is a civil trial against trump university not a criminal trial.....so nobody has been charged with fraud....

11/14/2016 5:37:42 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

lovethelake17
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Ah, so Bakker's was a criminal trial?

Like I said, I should look it up.

11/14/2016 5:46:53 PM Should the Trial be Delayed  

ibane
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Perhaps he wants all the fighting to stop now before shit gets out of hand....he's laid off the pimping of the Hillary prosecution for the time being