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When a woman uses her sexual availability to manipulate her boyfriend or husband into doing things her way, she's engaging in a form of emotional abuse. This passive-aggressive technique may be overt or covert. She might say she doesn't want to play unless he comes around to what she wants, or she may feign headaches, tiredness, or other ailments to avoid intimacy.

When is Withholding Sex Abusive?


ABUSIVE NOT ABUSIVE
She doesn't feel like it because of an argument that just ended. NOT ABUSIVE


She rejects sex after an argument that took place a week ago. ABUSIVE


She refuses sex because of a medical condition. NOT ABUSIVE


She refuses to seek treatment for a condition that prevents sex. ABUSIVE


She refuses to offer alternate means of pleasure when she can't have sex. ABUSIVE

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Quote from kandykayn:
I will be withholding sex from my husband this weekend because I need to renew my depo shot (birth control) Monday.

The pull out method does not work.My fourth son was unexpected.


Ovulating this weekend huh? Well, that's a valid reason to withhold sex. Pulling out DOES work though, unless the guy is super verile and has alot of sperm in his "pre cum", in which case, he's likely to impregnate a woman before he even ejaculates.

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Quote from xman379:
Ovulating this weekend huh? Well, that's a valid reason to withhold sex. Pulling out DOES work though, unless the guy is super verile and has alot of sperm in his "pre cum", in which case, he's likely to impregnate a woman before he even ejaculates.

It only works about 78% of the time, 22% got pregnant.



[Edited 6/3/2017 8:17:37 AM ]

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rightguyforu602
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Sienna ur nice.

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sadlsticsienna
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Quote from track_empirion:
When a woman uses her sexual availability to manipulate her boyfriend or husband into doing things her way, she's engaging in a form of emotional abuse. This passive-aggressive technique may be overt or covert. She might say she doesn't want to play unless he comes around to what she wants, or she may feign headaches, tiredness, or other ailments to avoid intimacy.

When is Withholding Sex Abusive?

ABUSIVE NOT ABUSIVE
She doesn't feel like it because of an argument that just ended. NOT ABUSIVE
She rejects sex after an argument that took place a week ago. ABUSIVE
She refuses sex because of a medical condition. NOT ABUSIVE
She refuses to seek treatment for a condition that prevents sex. ABUSIVE
She refuses to offer alternate means of pleasure when she can't have sex. ABUSIVE

TBH I disagree with what you classify as abusive and not abusive.
She may still be upset from the argument so I disagree that is abusive.
I disagree the last two are abusive as well.
Not seeking treatment, she may be afraid etc.
If she doesn't want to or can't have sex well why is he with her in the first place if that will be an issue?

Also avoiding intimacy altogether or by faking illness etc is a sign of something else being wrong and alone isn't abuse or manipulation.

Basically abuse is cruel treatment of someone often to gain advantage or power.
Cruelty is defined as:
wilfully causing pain or suffering to others, or feeling no concern about it.

So going by that definition it is only abuse if it is cruel treatment of them which means willfully hurting them and having no concern about it.

That basically means it is only abuse if she deliberately with-holds it to get her own way or does it repeatedly as punishment/to teach a lesson and it causes him emotional pain/upset.

It is NOT abuse if she has a medical condition and can't have sex and doesn't seek help.
Also NOT abuse if she doesn't have sex because she is still upset from an argument, even if it was a week or more ago.

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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
TBH I disagree with what you classify as abusive and not abusive.
She may still be upset from the argument so I disagree that is abusive.
I disagree the last two are abusive as well.
Not seeking treatment, she may be afraid etc.
If she doesn't want to or can't have sex well why is he with her in the first place if that will be an issue?

Also avoiding intimacy altogether or by faking illness etc is a sign of something else being wrong and alone isn't abuse or manipulation.

Basically abuse is cruel treatment of someone often to gain advantage or power.
Cruelty is defined as:
wilfully causing pain or suffering to others, or feeling no concern about it.

So going by that definition it is only abuse if it is cruel treatment of them which means willfully hurting them and having no concern about it.

That basically means it is only abuse if she deliberately with-holds it to get her own way or does it repeatedly as punishment/to teach a lesson and it causes him emotional pain/upset.

It is NOT abuse if she has a medical condition and can't have sex and doesn't seek help.
Also NOT abuse if she doesn't have sex because she is still upset from an argument, even if it was a week or more ago.
You really have absolutely no clue how males think or their brain operates, and understand VERY LITTLE about us. No wonder you are single....

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Quote from enigmaathand:
You really have absolutely no clue how males think or their brain operates, and understand VERY LITTLE about us. No wonder you are single....

It's still not technically
abusive ;0

Also
care to explain what you mean by that?

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It certainly is wrong and when she denies him (To show HER power in the relationship no doubt or just because she can) she's shoving him into the arms of another woman who really does care and then she'll self righteously dump the guy for cheating when he wouldn't have been cheating if she'd just treated him well in the first place. But then she gets to play the victim too, hanging on the cross in orgasmic agony screaming poor poor poor poor POOR MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Sure you showed your "power" in the relationship, but how far did it get you?

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Bad excuse to cheat. That is just what it is an excuse

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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
It's still not technically
abusive ;0

Also
care to explain what you mean by that?


Men are interested in food, cars, sports and sex and as little hassle as possible whether at home or work. You've got a lot of latitude here as long as you don't hassle the guy and cater to his interest in food, cars, sports and sex. Women hold many other things to be of infinitely greater importance.

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Yes I understand, men are basic af lol
I feel
so
enlightened


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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
TBH I disagree with what you classify as abusive and not abusive.
She may still be upset from the argument so I disagree that is abusive.
I disagree the last two are abusive as well.
Not seeking treatment, she may be afraid etc.
If she doesn't want to or can't have sex well why is he with her in the first place if that will be an issue?

Also avoiding intimacy altogether or by faking illness etc is a sign of something else being wrong and alone isn't abuse or manipulation.

Basically abuse is cruel treatment of someone often to gain advantage or power.
Cruelty is defined as:
wilfully causing pain or suffering to others, or feeling no concern about it.

So going by that definition it is only abuse if it is cruel treatment of them which means willfully hurting them and having no concern about it.

That basically means it is only abuse if she deliberately with-holds it to get her own way or does it repeatedly as punishment/to teach a lesson and it causes him emotional pain/upset.

It is NOT abuse if she has a medical condition and can't have sex and doesn't seek help.
Also NOT abuse if she doesn't have sex because she is still upset from an argument, even if it was a week or more ago.


It's fine if you disagree, but that is sourced and widely accepted medical data. I didn't make it up.

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sadlsticsienna
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Well it is INCORRECT lol

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cavie59
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Women do not need a reason to withhold sex from their husband or boyfriend. They will withhold sex simply because they know that they can and he can not do anything about it.

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In your opinion, it is incorrect.

In my opinion, it is not. Though, I believe there may be degrees of abuse. I don't know, I'm still working that out in my head.

I do think it's abusive if she knows she has a medical problem that precludes her having sex and she will not see a doctor about what needs to be done, both for her health and the health of her relationship. If it's fear that keeps her from pursuing help, or it's a sense of "I don't have to do what I don't want to do" both totally disregard and marginalize her partner and that's a terrible thing to do to someone you claim to love. Work through your fear or work through your thought processes because the other person is worthy of your efforts. That's what's abusive, and if I go with the degree of abuse thing, it may not jump to the level of beating someone, but it will leave scars and leads to ruining a relationship.

Still stewing over a week ago argument? Why are they not resolving it? I can see why it may still affect their sex life, but like I said before...she's still cutting off her nose to spite her face. That's just stupid. The stewing thing really is dependent upon the personalities and attitudes of both parties. If one is marginalizing the other, whoever is doing it...then the stewing is going to go on for a long time, and that's abusive, too.

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Not really, she could still be legit upset with him and as a result not want to have sex.

Imo its abusive to force someone to do something they don't want to do and will hurt them psychologically and/or physically just for your own selfish desire. Maybe she's had damage to her pelvic floor from childbirth or been raped and has PTSD. That's manipulative and abusive if he tries to force her to get help against her wishes just for his sake and threatens to leave. He should of thought about her condition before he went in a relationship with her or stayed in it, instead of trying to force what he wants on her

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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
It only works about 78% of the time, 22% got pregnant.


Well of course, if the woman is having sex 5 days prior to or on the day of ovulation, pulling out won't be an effective means to avoid pregnancy, as there is often sperm in what we call "pre cum" which is excreted prior to full on ejaculation. Meaning a woman can get pregnant as soon as the guy starts if he's already leaking pre cum with sperm in it. He wouldn't even necessarily have to ejaculate.

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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
Not really, she could still be legit upset with him and as a result not want to have sex.

Imo its abusive to force someone to do something they don't want to do and will hurt them psychologically and/or physically just for your own selfish desire. Maybe she's had damage to her pelvic floor from childbirth or been raped and has PTSD. That's manipulative and abusive if he tries to force her to get help against her wishes just for his sake and threatens to leave. He should of thought about her condition before he went in a relationship with her or stayed in it, instead of trying to force what he wants on her


Well, yes, of course. But why are we taking it to the extreme limit since it's the exception to the usual. Say, in a group of 10 women, maybe one would meet your description and it's still on her to get the help she needs to take care of what's going on with her. It is not fair of her to not take care of things for the sake of her own peace of mind, mental health, and the health of her relationship. It's selfish of her to not do so. In effect, she's shutting him out and that's not good for anyone. They're not two people who have nothing to do with each other or are just roommates. They're two people who have pledged their lives together and supposedly care deeply for how the other person fares within the relationship.

It'd be equally abusive and selfish of him to not be understanding and caring towards her and if both of them love each other, they'd do what they need to to make things better.

But that's not really the point of what he posted about what is and isn't abusive.

Generally speaking, if she's still stewing about a week ago argument, and she doesn't have the maturity or is adult enough to be an adult, she's being abusive. If he's still stewing about some week ago argument, the same thing. They needed to have made the effort to have the difficult conversations to rectify whatever it was about and whatever is underlying the week long brooding.

In any case, sex can be an anger-breaking endeavor. I might be mad at someone, but if after a week, it's still affecting my outlook about life and my love for him, then something is very wrong, and it goes beyond just being in a snit and not being in the mood.

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"Is it wrong for a woman to withhold sex from their bf?"

In my view, YES it is wrong to do that on a continual bases. Doing so once is a while due to illness, anger, or being TOO tired not so much.

However, MOST(not all) women do not need a reason to withhold sex from their husband or boyfriend. They will withhold sex simply because they know that they can and he can not do anything about it.

Any relationship that lacks sex, when BOTH people are normal and healthy, will end sooner or later.

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Quote from xman379:
Well of course, if the woman is having sex 5 days prior to or on the day of ovulation, pulling out won't be an effective means to avoid pregnancy, as there is often sperm in what we call "pre cum" which is excreted prior to full on ejaculation. Meaning a woman can get pregnant as soon as the guy starts if he's already leaking pre cum with sperm in it. He wouldn't even necessarily have to ejaculate.

Indeed. Some men have more sperm in precum, some have less.
Also sloppy practices increase the amount of sperm in there too. Like if he previously came and
didn't pee/clean it out etc.

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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
Say if she is upset at him or about something else etc, is it ok or not ok?

Men have you ever gotten mad or left a girl because she with held sex too much?

Do you expect her to still do it and think its not acceptable if she witholds it?


If you want to get dumped, the best way is to withhold sex.

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Quote from sadlsticsienna:

1.Say if she is upset at him or about something else etc, is it ok or not ok?

2.Men have you ever gotten mad or left a girl because she with held sex too much?

3.Do you expect her to still do it and think its not acceptable if she witholds it?


1. Once in a while no problem, but when it is all the time, then there is a problem

2. Yes to both questions.

3. Again, IF it is only once in a while, there can be understanding. It is when she does it all the time, then there is a PROBLEM.

Sex in a loving relationship is a normal part of the relationship. However MOST(not all) women think that once they have hooked the man, then they can withhold sex all the time and he should be happy.

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sadlsticsienna
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Wrong, it is selfish of him to walk into a relationship KNOWING her issues and push for her to change for HIS sake. If he is not ok with how things are, and how she is, don't go in a relationship with her. Try to have some understanding, getting help can actually be traumatizing for people. If she is going to get help she should be doing it of her own free will and for herself, not because he is manipulating her and trying to force her to. THAT IS ABUSIVE.

Also you are wrong. You don't KNOW what their argument was about. It might of been something very serious which it would be totally understandable to be upset for more than a week over. Or just if they never actually resolved the argument.

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cavie59
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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
Wrong, it is selfish of him to walk into a relationship KNOWING her issues and push for her to change for HIS sake. If he is not ok with how things are, and how she is, don't go in a relationship with her. Try to have some understanding, getting help can actually be traumatizing for people. If she is going to get help she should be doing it of her own free will and for herself, not because he is manipulating her and trying to force her to. THAT IS ABUSIVE


If the woman is UPFRONT from the start about her not caring for or wanting a NORMAL sex life, then she give the man that option.

It is when she starts out having sex from the start, and then stops and says that she no longer wants it, that is when the PROBLEMS start.

MOST(not all) women will use sex at the START of a relationship, knowing that is one sure way, to keep the man coming back and staying.

It is when the relationship is stable, that MOST(not all) women will then bring out their dislike of sex and then use that dislike of sex to control the relationship.

That is ABUSIVE, and the woman in question KNOWS this, yet continues this behavior.

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sadlsticsienna
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Men are simply addicted to sex, it does not provide that much bonding for them.
It's just an addiction.
women are the ones who have the neurotransmitters released that are involved in love and bonding during sex, men mainly just get one big Hit of
dopamine.

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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
Men are simply addicted to sex, it does not provide that much bonding for them.
It's just an addiction.
women are the ones who have the neurotransmitters released that are involved in love and bonding during sex, men mainly just get one big Hit of
dopamine.



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cavie59
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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
Men are simply addicted to sex, it does not provide that much bonding for them.
It's just an addiction.
women are the ones who have the neurotransmitters released that are involved in love and bonding during sex, men mainly just get one big Hit of
dopamine.


So what you are saying is, it is O.K. for a woman to USE SEX at the start of a relationship to get and keep a man coming back, and then pull the old switch a roo, and stop having sex with him once he has committed to the woman.

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Quote from cavie59:
So what you are saying is, it is O.K. for a woman to USE SEX at the start of a relationship to get and keep a man coming back, and then pull the old switch a roo, and stop having sex with him once he has committed to the woman.

It is common knowledge that couples have waaay more sex in the start of a relationship than down the track.
It's called the 'honey moon' period. It's normal.

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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
It is common knowledge that couples have waaay more sex in the start of a relationship than down the track.
It's called the 'honey moon' period. It's normal.


It is not normal to go from sex 3 times a week to 1 time a month or less. That is ABUSIVE.

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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
Men are simply addicted to sex, it does not provide that much bonding for them.
It's just an addiction.
women are the ones who have the neurotransmitters released that are involved in love and bonding during sex, men mainly just get one big Hit of
dopamine.


Yeah yeah, men are the worst.

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One in 5 are having sex less than once a month (a quarter of women).

About the same number of people are “doing it” three to four times a month, with 17% getting it on five to eight times in that period.

Interestingly, looking at the genders, more men than women ticked the higher-number boxes, but when it came to the lower end of the scale — such as having nookie less than once a month — it’s women who topped this with 24% admitting to rarely coupling over a four-week period (17% of men).

Almost 8% claim to have sex 11 to 20 times a month but less than 1% are having it every day.

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jason_in_tx
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Sienna do you have a problem with getting wet? That Is an actual condition.

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cavie59
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Quote from sadlsticsienna:

Interestingly, looking at the genders, more men than women ticked the higher-number boxes, but when it came to the lower end of the scale — such as having nookie less than once a month — it’s women who topped this with 24% admitting to rarely coupling over a four-week period (17% of men).


With these figures it is easy to see that 24% of women do not like sex. Of the 17 % of men I wonder how many of them are married to women that fall into the 24% category.

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track_empirion
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Seems Sienna understands the male addiction to sex. So she should also understand that withholding the addiction for too long without a fix will result in that addiction getting satisfied one way or another. That's what addicts do. It's science, right Sienna?

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Quote from jason_in_tx:
Sienna do you have a problem with getting wet? That Is an actual condition.

No, even if I did, there is lube that easily fixes that lol

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truly000
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If those numbers are true where are the men getting it from? Are they spanking it to some porn or have a side chick?
People want to be happy in a relationship.
With holding sex = unhappy guy
I don't know about you but if I were in a relationship I'd want to be keeping him happy.
Plus, sex is enjoyable for both men and women. Even though they may experience it differently.

Sometimes people get in arguments and maybe there are somethings to be worked on and dealt with before having sex.

...And then the make-up session.

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Depends how much it is withheld.
Most men should be able to put their big boy pants on and be fine with a little less sex.
I can understand if it completely stops tho I guess.

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cavie59
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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
Depends how much it is withheld.
Most men should be able to put their big boy pants on and be fine with a little less sex.
I can understand if it completely stops tho I guess.


Please define what YOU consider a normal amount of sex and little less sex.

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So what you're asking, OP, is the same thing KORBYN asked when he started his thread "Do Women Use Sex As A Weapon"? Correct?

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sadlsticsienna
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Quote from cavie59:
Please define what YOU consider a normal amount of sex and little less sex.
God I don't know, I've never lived with a guy lol and when I was dating my ex he never cared if we didn't have sex.
I think once a week is probably satisfactory. ???
once every 2 weeks is a bit less, becoming unsatisfactory.

If I was living with a guy I really don't know how much I would lol. Can't really imagine even having sex with someone else at this point. I've only slept with 1 guy.

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cavie59
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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
God I don't know, I've never lived with a guy lol and when I was dating my ex he never cared if we didn't have sex.
I think once a week is probably satisfactory. ???
once every 2 weeks is a bit less, becoming unsatisfactory.

If I was living with a guy I really don't know how much I would lol. Can't really imagine even having sex with someone else at this point. I've only slept with 1 guy.


This I can agree on. After the "HONEYMOON" phase dropping from 2 to 3 times a week, to once a week, NORMAL.

Anything less than once every ten days in NOT NORMAL. That is when the partner doing the withholding is becoming ABUSIVE.

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I dont think it's abusive if it's less than 10 days, it's just not often and they are sexually incompatible?

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rightguyforu602
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Still trolling, miss sienna?

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Quote from rightguyforu602:
Still trolling, miss sienna?

Im not trolling!


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cavie59
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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
I dont think it's abusive if it's less than 10 days, it's just not often and they are sexually incompatible?


Then how long of withholding sex WOULD you consider ABUSIVE?

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Quote from cavie59:
Then how long of withholding sex WOULD you consider ABUSIVE?

it isn't unless she is doing it on PURPOSE to hurt or manipulate him.

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cavie59
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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
it isn't unless she is doing it on PURPOSE to hurt or manipulate him.


REREAD my question that I asked.

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sadlsticsienna
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Quote from cavie59:
Then how long of withholding sex WOULD you consider ABUSIVE?

there is no 'time' frame of how long is abusive because it is NOT about time.
It only is abusive if she is using it to manipulate him or actually punish him.

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enigmaathand
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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
there is no 'time' frame of how long is abusive because it is NOT about time.
It only is abusive if she is using it to manipulate him or actually punish him.
So, when a WOMAN is "upset"(her DEFAULT attitude to men breathing, let alone ANY actions he may take), and she is purposely withholding sex because she is "punishing" him, that would be abusive, but you said she should be allowed to use sex as a weapon when she is upset with him.

Seems to me like you just contradicted yourself.

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sadlsticsienna
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No, it is natural to not want to have sex with someone when you're pissed off at them.
Sorry if that hurts their feelings lol

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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
it isn't unless she is doing it on PURPOSE to hurt or manipulate him.


Isn't that the case when a woman is just upset after an argument?

Women still expect men to do for them, even after an argument.

A couple could have an argument and let's say the woman needs help with her car she will ask "Are you gonna help me or what?"

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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
No, it is natural to not want to have sex with someone when you're pissed off at them.
Sorry if that hurts their feelings lol


Unless it's angry sex then it's perfectly acceptable.

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sadlsticsienna
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Quote from xman379:
Isn't that the case when a woman is just upset after an argument?

Women still expect men to do for them, even after an argument.

A couple could have an argument and let's say the woman needs help with her car she will ask "Are you gonna help me or what?"

Well he could say no. dur lol

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enigmaathand
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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
No, it is natural to not want to have sex with someone when you're pissed off at them.
Sorry if that hurts their feelings lol
Then men are fully justified, when we are "upset" with women, by NOT wanting to do anything for them.

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enigmaathand
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Quote from xman379:
Isn't that the case when a woman is just upset after an argument?

Women still expect men to do for them, even after an argument.

A couple could have an argument and let's say the woman needs help with her car she will ask "Are you gonna help me or what?"
Women ALWAYS EXPECT MEN to DO FOR THEM, no matter what.

Feminists wouldn't have it any other way.

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sadlsticsienna
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LOl anything as in what?

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enigmaathand
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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
LOl anything as in what?
Doesn't matter.

Sex is a need for most men. Women use that as a weapon to control us and punish us for bad behavior.

So, to respect a woman as our "Equal" it is important that when they piss US off, that we make sure to not do the things we normally do(that THEY NEED), as a form of punishing THEM for their bad behavior.

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sadlsticsienna
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ahhaha what could I possibly NEED from a man lol
Good one

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cavie59
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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
there is no 'time' frame of how long is abusive because it is NOT about time.
It only is abusive if she is using it to manipulate him or actually punish him.


So, in your mind it is O.K. to start a relationship using sex as a lure, then once you have the man in the relationship, you can stop and he must be O.K with it.