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fishnthec
Mesquite, TX
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Voter registration data base huh!
For one thing, we do not want it!
That's all we need is to be a target for some kind of harassment, or being hacked, or being discriminized in any way by some corrupted government official that could chooses to harm us.
We can't trust Donald Trump for sure, as he could easily provide the Russians with our information for nefarious reason to harm us in ways we haven't even determined yet.
Not only that, but this is how Tom Delay and the Republican party illegally used our personal voting information before to re-draw voting districts (gerrymandered) in such a manner that the Democrats can not win State, Local, or presidential elections anymore in most states of our nation!
That's why Donald Trump has set up a commission to investigate and request our personal voting information.
And that's why he made up this idea that 3 million people voted illegally in order to somehow justify obtaining our information.
Sure the Republicans would like to know where all the Democratic voters live, our social security numbers, our voting records, our our personal Email addresses so that they can target their Fake News and Right Wing agenda down on us, suppress our votes by hacking our districts along with the Russians, and redraw our voting districts in ways that harm the Democratic process. We don't want you to know our private information or where we live.
F**k You! F**k Donald Trump! F**k the Republicans! And F**k the Russians too, since you are all now voting partners and continue to work together to ham our democratic process- if you haven't done enough damage already!
You a**holes cannot be trusted anymore! 
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juma2112
Wheat Ridge, CO
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So ur not interested in protecting the integrity of the process from possible corruption?
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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How and what I vote is nobodies damn business. I was particulary pissed off last month when I learned our States were selling our voter data to private companies to sell to campaigns. Voting is supposed to be one of the most private acts. States selling my, in confidence data, there is something seriously f**ked up here.
The I find it rather amuzing these dipshits come on TV agreeing we won't give the Federal Gov't the same shit we gave away to everyone else. It's f**king comical.
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fishnthec
Mesquite, TX
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There is nothing wrong with the system we have in place now regarding registering to vote.
But, hell no we do not want a national database that can harm us!
Such a registry could be used to make hiring decisions. Yes, if some employer only wanted to hire Republicans and discriminate against democrats, all he would have to do is look someone up by their SS number, determine they were a democrat and not hire the person.
It could be used in many nefarious ways.
And at this time, the Republicans cannot be trusted with such information.
Sorry Charley! But no! 
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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fish what pisses me off it that's it's nobody damn business how I vote, then learn states are selling my information. State legistlatures operate in relative obscurity. And this is the kind of shit they are doing behind our backs. Yea, I'm pissed, very pissed. And the Federal Govt can kiss my ass. The only thing they have to do is verify you are who you say you are and determine if your a citizen. That's all.
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juma2112
Wheat Ridge, CO
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Fish, u really didn't answer my question.
Are u interested in protecting the integrity of our Democratic system from ANY & ALL possible forms of corruption?
We can debate the database later.
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fishnthec
Mesquite, TX
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How about a national Registration for owning guns instead.
I mean, if you are into registrations and all!
With ballistic information on file, as well, for every weapon.
That way police knows who purchased what weapon where!
And how many guns does any given gun-toting a**hole have at any given time, and who he is buying from, and who he is selling to!
With 88 people being killed every single day by guns in this nation, it would really help in resolving some of these crimes.
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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Juma, the issue is democrats registering non citizens to vote.
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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fish, whether I own a gun or not is none of your damn business.
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fishnthec
Mesquite, TX
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Fish, u really didn't answer my question.
Are u interested in protecting the integrity of our Democratic system from ANY & ALL possible forms of corruption?
We can debate the database later.
Yes, if you can think of a legitimate reason why our registration process is not doing a good job now.
When I voted, I was asked to show my ID, which was my drivers license, and the lady took my drivers license, looked me up on a Voters registration list, and marked me off the list as having voted! She then handed me a ballot and walked me to a machine.
That seems sufficient to me! What is wrong with that system?
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fishnthec
Mesquite, TX
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fish, whether I own a gun or not is none of your damn business.
Exactly! My voting information is none of yours.
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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Yep, what pisses me off is all that states selling my info to other companies. That's f**ked up. So it amuzes me that states won't give the same info to the Federal Gov't as they sell freely to others. This is totally f**ked up and needs to stop.
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juma2112
Wheat Ridge, CO
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Fish, the weak link is when u register to vote, what was that process?
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fishnthec
Mesquite, TX
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Fish, the weak link is when u register to vote, what was that process?
Ok! I'm on board. We should all be using our SS numbers for everything we do.
Our SS number should be our Drivers License number, it should be our credit card number, our voters registration number.
I'll even take it a step further, we should all have our fingers printed and coordinated to our SS number,
When we vote, we should simply stamp our paper ballot with our finger print!
I'm all for that!
But, when I vote Republican or Democrat and when I choose to do so, should be my personal business.
But that is not what Donald Trump's voter regulation database he is trying to compile wants.
They want to know all our personal information, voting history, etc.
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jillybodob
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I think what we are learning Fish is that all our voter records are recorded and sold by states. I too used to think it was sacred information but now it comes to light our State Gov'ts have been selling a** for decades.
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juma2112
Wheat Ridge, CO
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Fish, why do u have to go on these tirades?
My point is, illegals shouldn't be able to get a SS card or a DL, but they do by the millions.
The fact is, the system (not just voter registration system) as a whole is flawed.
Threats to Democratic system aren't only from the outside.
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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An illegal should never get a social security number. never.
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annamally
Santa Clarita, CA
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How about a national Registration for owning guns instead.
I mean, if you are into registrations and all!
With ballistic information on file, as well, for every weapon.
That way police knows who purchased what weapon where!
And how many guns does any given gun-toting a**hole have at any given time, and who he is buying from, and who he is selling to!
With 88 people being killed every single day by guns in this nation, it would really help in resolving some of these crimes.
Do you remember the civil war ?
Do you think that , that could never happen again ? 
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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If Warren Buffet and Bill Gates would just pay their fair share...instead of paying less than their secretary.
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fishnthec
Mesquite, TX
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Do you remember the civil war ?
Do you think that , that could never happen again ?
Anna, my friends who are Republicans don't want to kill me.
They just want to dictate to me, and condescend down to me.
I tell them to f**k off! 
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fishnthec
Mesquite, TX
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If Warren Buffet and Bill Gates would just pay their fair share...instead of paying less than their secretary.
I don't know about their taxes, but I do know they are pretty hefty philanthropists!
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jillybodob
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You seem to be defending them for not paying their fair share fish.
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annamally
Santa Clarita, CA
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Anna, my friends who are Republicans don't want to kill me.
They just want to dictate to me, and condescend down to me.
I tell them to f**k off!
I don't blame them !!! 
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fishnthec
Mesquite, TX
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I don't blame them !!!
Besides that I like all my Republican friends!
I forgive them for being such arrogant holier-than-thou a**holes! 
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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Word on the street is that Bernie for all his bluster, doesn't pay his fair share. And Lizzy?
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fishnthec
Mesquite, TX
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You seem to be defending them for not paying their fair share fish.
Don't forget they are in a 40% tax bracket.
And don't forget they are corporations as well!
What I don't think is fair is that corporations get by with writing of their re-investments and losses!
You and I don't get to do that now do we?
Perhaps we should be allowed to incorporate for just handling our personal business of keeping a roof over our heads, feeding ourselves, and living within our means. After all it is our personal business, and we have to run it like a business! We just don't get the tax breaks for doing it in the way corporations do!
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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well, Lizzy cheated the system. And now acts holly'ier than thou. What a piece of shit lying ass.
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fishnthec
Mesquite, TX
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Word on the street is that Bernie for all his bluster, doesn't pay his fair share. And Lizzy?
Bernie's taxes are all up and up and made public record.
Bernie is in a high tax bracket.
I was too during my heydey and I thought it was a bit much.
So, I am with Donald on trying to get the taxes leveled out, but only of he is going to do away with the loopholes!
He wants to do away with the estate tax, and he has my approval on that as well.
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drwookie
Reading, PA
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Another intelligent response from ol cookie....lol
you moron
So you're too stupid to understand the response, predictable!
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fishnthec
Mesquite, TX
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I don't know about Lizzy cheating on her taxes.
But I do know that Bernie was supposed to put up 2.7 million on his 10 million dollar loan he wanted for that university his wife wanted restored.
So, he is being investigated for that.
Bernie just don't seem like a liar to me, so I bet he had the money and it will all be reconciled.
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drwookie
Reading, PA
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They don't have the papers to get a ss card or dl either, but they get them, idiot.
That would be forgery, usually enough to get crooked Americans to hire them but not used for any federal purposes because they know they'd get caught moron!
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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poor bernie is such a communalist
Bernie Sanders buys a $575,000 vacation home.
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juma2112
Wheat Ridge, CO
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Hey kookie, I'm glad ur around.
Could u explain how Ryan will assume the presidency once Trump is removed from office?
I saw u and scar were forecasting the possibilities once Ryan assumes office.
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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Speaker of the House. 3rd in line.
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fishnthec
Mesquite, TX
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Fish, why do u have to go on these tirades?
My point is, illegals shouldn't be able to get a SS card or a DL, but they do by the millions.
The fact is, the system (not just voter registration system) as a whole is flawed.
Threats to Democratic system aren't only from the outside.
Go look it up, juma!
Look at the participation of minorities that vote!
The figures are shockingly low!
Minorities just won't get their asses out to vote because the are just passe I guess!
The same thing goes for liberals! They don't vote either.
I don't understand it, but check out the facts.
You should just be glad that Republicans vote! Every stinking one of them!
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fishnthec
Mesquite, TX
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One interesting fact is millions of uppity up Yankees in New York and Chicago own winter homes in Florida.
Many are suspected of voting in their home states and voting in their get-a-way Florida districts as well.
And a majority of these uppity-ups are Republicans.
How are you gonna' deal with that?
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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People with morals and values don't cheat others.
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juma2112
Wheat Ridge, CO
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No fish,
a study of the election shows,
12 states had "strict" voter ID laws. Of those, states, 9 showed an increase, or no sigsignificant drop in turnout.
The 3 remaining states did show a drop in turnout, but still well above national avg. turnout.
No evidence of any demographic being disproportionately affected.
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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proof of citizenship. that's all. No proxies or guessing needed.
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thekinghasrisen
San Diego, CA
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There is no evidence voter ID suppresses voting.
Yes there is.
You're just far too lazy and disinterested to put the minimal effort necessary in to study it. 
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thekinghasrisen
San Diego, CA
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King the pitiful me argument? Never met a woman yet who would buy that line of crap.
Who the hell said anything about a woman?
Seriously Jill, did you start your 4th celebration early? You're so much better than this.
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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how many people think like you King?
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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as country the department of education spends $10,000 a year to send each and every kid to school. What's really amazing to me is how many don't give a f**k. So why if they don't give a f**k should I give a f**k about them later?
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cruesin
Rockaway, NJ
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Vote by social. F**k state to state vote by social security only. One system, one number, once used its used
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flatheadone
Greenwood, FL
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No ID no vote simple as that. If you are not responsible enough to get proper ID you should be allowed to have any part in making choices that effect our country. Get your life in order before you try and decided the fate of others.
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thekinghasrisen
San Diego, CA
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how many people think like you King?
Very few as it turns out.
That said...that doesn't make me wrong.
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thekinghasrisen
San Diego, CA
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No ID no vote simple as that. If you are not responsible enough to get proper ID you should be allowed to have any part in making choices that effect our country. Get your life in order before you try and decided the fate of others.
Tell that to the seniors who's ssi cards worked until republicans changed the rules to class poor folks out. What did THEY do wrong?
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maniacmassager
Lawrence, MA
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There is no evidence voter ID suppresses voting.
Of course it does. it prevents illegals and dead people from voting. that's unconstitutional!
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nycman530
New York, NY
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Sorry, but saying that voter ID laws are "discriminating" is a bunch of bullshit! And it's condescending and racist towards minorities by claiming it's discriminatory because it implies they are too incapable or stupid to obtain one. Yet no one has a hissy fit when it comes to having to produce ID for dozens of other transactions. And there was at least 4 million votes which were illigitimate because of lax voter ID laws in certain states, especially California. Watch this video and see what the black citizens have to say about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llDM-44Zb8w
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juma2112
Wheat Ridge, CO
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Yes there is.
You're just far too lazy and disinterested to put the minimal effort necessary in to study it.
No there isn't. I'm fact a recent study shows the opposite.
Maybe it's u who is too lazy and disinterested. Put in the minimal effort and look into it.
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drwookie
Reading, PA
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Vote by social. F**k state to state vote by social security only. One system, one number, once used its used
Putin loves this idea, did he promise to let you give him a blow job for posting this?
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orals4uladies
Mabank, TX
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Fish, if you took a closer look you will see it low cause majority of the illegals use one social security number. my mother use to work for Supreme Beef that was over on 2nd Ave, she did their book keeping and pay role. illegals worked there using one person's SS number.
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thekinghasrisen
San Diego, CA
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No there isn't. I'm fact a recent study shows the opposite.
Maybe it's u who is too lazy and disinterested. Put in the minimal effort and look into it.
Congrats. You broke my argument with the time honored "I know you are buy what am I" defense.
Good luck with the research doc. 
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juma2112
Wheat Ridge, CO
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Congrats. You broke my argument with the time honored "I know you are buy what am I" defense.
Good luck with the research doc.
a study of the last presidential election shows,
12 states had "strict" voter ID laws. Of those states, 9 showed an increase, or no sigsignificant drop in turnout.
The 3 remaining states did show a drop in turnout, but still well above national avg. turnout.
No evidence of any demographic being disproportionately affected.
There u go king, I did the work for u. U can easily verify this, if ur willing to do the work.
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fallguy02379
Brockton, MA
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Sorry, but saying that voter ID laws are "discriminating" is a bunch of bullshit! And it's condescending and racist towards minorities by claiming it's discriminatory because it implies they are too incapable or stupid to obtain one. Yet no one has a hissy fit when it comes to having to produce ID for dozens of other transactions. And there was at least 4 million votes which were illigitimate because of lax voter ID laws in certain states, especially California. Watch this video and see what the black citizens have to say about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llDM-44Zb8w
it's never just about the photo I.D.....it's the process of OBTAINING one
tell us what you would have to produce to get a photo I.D in your state if you have never had a car license before.
and if you are an elder person who has voted in the same district for 60 years but, you have never had a drivers license?
it's not about the cost of getting a photo ID at all
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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Sorry, but saying that voter ID laws are "discriminating" is a bunch of bullshit! And it's condescending and racist towards minorities by claiming it's discriminatory because it implies they are too incapable or stupid to obtain one. Yet no one has a hissy fit when it comes to having to produce ID for dozens of other transactions. And there was at least 4 million votes which were illigitimate because of lax voter ID laws in certain states, especially California.
Yeah, and how much time do the rest of our citizens outside California get to vote, as opposed to wandering up to the local supermarket? And while it might be easy to get a DMV issued I.D., order a "state ID" card, or show your passport in California, in rural areas, and many parts of the U.S., the arrangement is not so readily available. The voter registrar's office, or its equivalent, can often be several dozens, if not a hundred miles away from where many citizens live. And to boot, some of those states have passed laws where "suddenly" the ID that worked in the last election won't work in the next, leaving many of these citizens who are busy with their jobs, house payments, etc etc, at a last minute scramble only to find out their too late. So, so much for the voter I.D. laws.
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jitssbaby617
Roslindale, MA
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Yeah, and how much time do the rest of our citizens outside California get to vote, as opposed to wandering up to the local supermarket? And while it might be easy to get a DMV issued I.D., order a "state ID" card, or show your passport in California, in rural areas, and many parts of the U.S., the arrangement is not so readily available. The voter registrar's office, or its equivalent, can often be several dozens, if not a hundred miles away from where many citizens live. And to boot, some of those states have passed laws where "suddenly" the ID that worked in the last election won't work in the next, leaving many of these citizens who are busy with their jobs, house payments, etc etc, at a last minute scramble only to find out their too late. So, so much for the voter I.D. laws.
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woniota
Jacksonville, FL
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Yeah, and how much time do the rest of our citizens outside California get to vote, as opposed to wandering up to the local supermarket? And while it might be easy to get a DMV issued I.D., order a "state ID" card, or show your passport in California, in rural areas, and many parts of the U.S., the arrangement is not so readily available. The voter registrar's office, or its equivalent, can often be several dozens, if not a hundred miles away from where many citizens live. And to boot, some of those states have passed laws where "suddenly" the ID that worked in the last election won't work in the next, leaving many of these citizens who are busy with their jobs, house payments, etc etc, at a last minute scramble only to find out their too late. So, so much for the voter I.D. laws.
Big pile of manure. Every outlandish and implausible excuse possible to not register voters properly.
President Trump should bore in on this issue, exposing the obvious reason democrats don't want proper vetting of voters, to steal elections.
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thekinghasrisen
San Diego, CA
32, joined Nov. 2013
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a study of the last presidential election shows,
12 states had "strict" voter ID laws. Of those states, 9 showed an increase, or no sigsignificant drop in turnout.
The 3 remaining states did show a drop in turnout, but still well above national avg. turnout.
No evidence of any demographic being disproportionately affected.
There u go king, I did the work for u. U can easily verify this, if ur willing to do the work.
Verify your sourceless post on a soulless "dating website"? What kind of time do you think I have? Do I look unemployed to you?
Look, you can keep your opinion and agree to disagree with what I've said. I don't have a dog in the fight when it comes to the contents of your head; you're going to believe whatever is most useful for you to believe, whether there s truth or data to support it or not. I'm not here to change your mind or anyone else's. It is what it is. That's all there is to it and my only point. Do with that what you will - it doesn't concern me.
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jitssbaby617
Roslindale, MA
38, joined Jun. 2014
online now!
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It's to hard to get a id I'm so busy working lol
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