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cupocheer
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You were doing a fairly decent job, Louie, until you kept posting.


"But there IS one Supreme Being that everyone in the Universe adores. How do I know this? Well, in a psychic experiment called telesthesia or remote sensing (The ability to see a distant and unseen target using extrasensory perception), which is documented in a YouTube video, they met extra terrestrial beings on a distant planet and asked them if they worshiped a God. And they were told that they all worship the “All” or the “One”. So, according to this, they all worship the Supreme Being as their God.

Louie"



Louie -- The history contained within the Bible are true and factual -- tangible, if you will.

YouTube is entertainment, Louie. Fodder for the gullible to digest at will.

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For Blake.



So God just existed? Hanging out, thinking and shit.


So God had to create something so God could declare Glory.

I created you, now worship me..

God would of know that angel would rebel and become Satan. God created everything. Even rebelling.

There is no point in created free will if you are just going to punish people for takin advantage of it.

Thats like putting a steak in front of a dog and telling him not to eat it.

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mudclean
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
For Blake.



So God just existed? Hanging out, thinking and shit.


So God had to create something so God could declare Glory.

I created you, now worship me..

God would of know that angel would rebel and become Satan. God created everything. Even rebelling.

There is no point in created free will if you are just going to punish people for takin advantage of it.

Thats like putting a steak in front of a dog and telling him not to eat it.


Your argument assumes that creating intelligent life without giving it free will is moral.

Your argument assumes that there is something besides God that just happened to create the universe and everything in it. Scientists have proven that there has to be an exact energy requirement (which they have calculated) beyond our universe to make this possible. Any more or any less energy results in failure to launch. Quite frankly, the impossibility of the universe makes God the most logical assumption.

Knowing the decisions individuals will make and forcing them to make those decisions are two completely different issues, which is why a just God would restrain himself from interfering with free will.

Your arguments onlu fail on the facts. Otherwise it sounds plausible.

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Louis - In Genesis 1:1, "God crated the heavens and the earth."

The word for "created" means "finished." The Earth was done, complete, perfect.

Then, in Genesis 1:2 "the earth was formless, and void."

The word for "was" is actually "became."

So, the Earth was created (brought forth from nothingness), and was finished, completed perfectly.

THEN, some time passed...be it a second, a minute, and hour, a year, a billion centuries, or whatever...we have no clue.

THEN, the Earth BECAME formless, and void...was ruined, no longer perfect....pretty much destroyed.

THEN, the whole thing with the light, the creeping things, man, etc, came AFTERwards.

If you are going to rely upon The Bible, you should really STUDY it...including looking into the original languages, and the real meanings of the words actually originally used. They tell as much as do the translated words anyone can clearly see.

IF the creation story in The Bible is true, the Earth existed for only God knows how long before being destroyed, and then rebuilt. The destruction probably happened by means of Satan being cast down to the Earth, and striking it like a giant meteor. The Earth was then a formless mass-an astroid belt, or ball of magma-and was then rebuilt...renovated, and given to mankind....which really upset Satan....who had considered Earth to be HIS personal, and private, playground.

So Earth was created in Genesis 1:1, and could have existed for millions of years....or billions of centuries...or even trillions of millennia...or more, before being destroyed in Genesis 1:2.

The Bible tells me so.



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mudclean
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Quote from amusicluvr:
Louis - In Genesis 1:1, "God crated the heavens and the earth."

The word for "created" means "finished." The Earth was done, complete, perfect.

Then, in Genesis 1:2 "the earth was formless, and void."

The word for "was" is actually "became."

So, the Earth was created (brought forth from nothingness), and was finished, completed perfectly.

THEN, some time passed...be it a second, a minute, and hour, a year, a billion centuries, or whatever...we have no clue.

THEN, the Earth BECAME formless, and void...was ruined, no longer perfect....pretty much destroyed.

THEN, the whole thing with the light, the creeping things, man, etc, came AFTERwards.

If you are going to rely upon The Bible, you should really STUDY it...including looking into the original languages, and the real meanings of the words actually originally used. They tell as much as do the translated words anyone can clearly see.

IF the creation story in The Bible is true, the Earth existed for only God knows how long before being destroyed, and then rebuilt. The destruction probably happened by means of Satan being cast down to the Earth, and striking it like a giant meteor. The Earth was then a formless mass-an astroid belt, or ball of magma-and was then rebuilt...renovated, and given to mankind....which really upset Satan....who had considered Earth to be HIS personal, and private, playground.

So Earth was created in Genesis 1:1, and could have existed for millions of years....or billions of centuries...or even trillions of millennia...or more, before being destroyed in Genesis 1:2.

The Bible tells me so.



Your entire premise is false. The word created literally means created. I don't see finished in the definition below.


to create, shape, form
(Qal) to shape, fashion, create (always with God as subject)
of heaven and earth
of individual man
of new conditions and circumstances
of transformations
(Niphal) to be created
of heaven and earth
of birth
of something new
of miracles
(Piel)
to cut down
to cut out
to be fat
(Hiphil) to make yourselves fat

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Believe in God or don't.

It makes no difference.

Do what makes you happy.

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Quote from sdgncalix3:
For Blake.



So God just existed? Hanging out, thinking and shit.


So God had to create something so God could declare Glory.

I created you, now worship me..

God would of know that angel would rebel and become Satan. God created everything. Even rebelling.

There is no point in created free will if you are just going to punish people for takin advantage of it.

Thats like putting a steak in front of a dog and telling him not to eat it.


Yes God exists and existed. There was never a time when He didn't. He created time, which has a beginning and an end. But not Him nor those who are written in the Book of Life.

He doesn't just hang out and He doesn't need to think about anything that He already knows. (Which is everything)

You exist calix, for a reason.
You are the clay and He is the Potter. You have reason,and a reason.
There is only one of you.
And , you were created in the image of your Maker.
Allow Him to use you for your intended purpose.

No one fully understands God and His ways.
He is infinite and we are finite .
A finite mind can not fully understand an infinite God and His infinite ways.
But, that does not detract from the fact that He is who He says He is through His preserved Living Word.

To know God, would take eternity.
Thank God eternity exist.

Life here, on this God forsaken Earth is but a vapor.
Here today gone tomorrow.

He knows what He is doing.
You have to trust and put faith into Him.

We all exercise faith everyday.
But, what matters the most is, what and who do you put your faith in.

God is misrepresented by the ways of the world.

Agendas,addictions, lusts , lies,jealousy, envy, greed, ect...
blind the eyes to The Light of The Truth.
It hardens the heart and makes it callous.
It binds and puts one into bondage, into captivity , physically and spiritually.
IT OFFERS YOU NO HOPE!!!

SIN ENSLAVES!
It destroys and it decays.

Sin will wear your butt out.
But it doesn't have to be that way.
God doesn't make deals.
God keeps His promises.

Just like a farmer tills the fields before he plants his seed, so does God and His Word. Here a little, there a little .
It is your duty to till .

God will and has done what He does.
No disbelief will ever change one scintilla of who God is, what God has done, what God will and is doing.

PROPHECY = HISTORY told in advance.
All prophecies have already OR WILL be fulfilled, because God keeps His Word. True evidence that God is who He says He is ,and will do what He says He will do.

The only thing God cannot do, is sin, but He can pay the wages thereof.

For the wages of sin is death.
The wages of our individual sins cannot be paid for by us , only for us. That is why salvation is a free gift from God.

God's grace truly is amazing.
Embrace it.

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Quote from sdgncalix3:
Believe in God or don't.

It makes no difference.

Do what makes you happy.
Why thank you I will, and for you?yes it will make a differance

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mudclean
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The biggest problem with athiesm is the universe and everything in it. Once you get past that it's a feasible belief system.

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sdgncalix3
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Not an atheist.

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Prophecy=History in advance

Can you give an example?

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blake6972
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The Lamb of God , Jesus the Christ.

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blake6972
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Meteorite dust.
1. Some 15 thousand tons of nickel dust from this source falls on the Earth each year.
If the Earth were 4.5 billion years old ,there would be a layer 200 feet thick all over Earth.
Ocean concentrations reveal the Earth to be only a few thousand years old.

2. These particles falling on the moon should have produced even greater depths of this dust ,but the amount discovered again indicates only a few thousand years.

Nice hunk of evidence for a young Earth.

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Quote from sdgncalix3:

There is no point in created free will if you are just going to punish people for takin advantage of it.


If not for free will there would just be a planet full of robots.

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"I give you free will, but if you actually use it
and don't do exactly as a say I'll torture you forever"

-God

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Quote from catlover418:
If not for free will there would just be a planet full of robots.


Soon, Sista. Soon.
You voted for it. Now get ready for it.

Do you ever use the "self check out" at the grocery store? I don't. Someone needs that job & im quite content waiting my turn....


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Quote from cinnamonnhaze:
Soon, Sista. Soon.
You voted for it. Now get ready for it.

Do you ever use the "self check out" at the grocery store? I don't. Someone needs that job & im quite content waiting my turn....


U look like a dead sick Skelton no need to be at the grocery wasting the cashiers time

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Quote from cinnamonnhaze:
Soon, Sista. Soon.
You voted for it. Now get ready for it.

Do you ever use the "self check out" at the grocery store? I don't. Someone needs that job & im quite content waiting my turn....


Hey Moron, this thread isn't about politics.

And what the hell does "self checkout" have to do with anything?????

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mudclean
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Quote from hallucis:
Prophecy=History in advance

Can you give an example?


I can. Isaiah prophecied that Alexander the Great's kingdom would be divided among four rulers. The prophecy was made about 500 years prior to it happening.

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mudclean
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I hate to say it but we have been through all of this in depth before on other threads. There are many people who wouldn't believe in God if they met him in person. I can throw out facts and evidence and fulfilled prophecies all day long. If a Bible prophecy was fulfilled yesterday you still wouldn't believe that it actually happened. This is true of 2005, 1967, 1948, and a number of other events that I didn't even bother to bring up in this post. I can lead a horse to water but I can't make him drink it.

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Quote from catlover418:
He had no beginning. He has always been. Hard to believe if you don't have faith.

That makes no sense. It's like telling you to have faith that black is white and water is dry, and if you disbelieve it's only because your faith isn't strong enough.

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blake6972
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The Book of Isaiah is one of my favorite books.

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Quote from louie6332:
“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false” (Edgar Casey, director of CIA from 1981 to 1987, stated during an early meeting of the CIA). This disinformation program is part of the Federal Government’s phy-op operation against the American people, and they are using the public schools and the Major News Media to disseminate this propaganda and form new generations suitable for their planned New World Order.

Trump and his administration have certainly advanced this cause, declaring that only their state-sanctioned propaganda may be believed. "The Ministry of Truth", just arriving about 33 years late for 1984!

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Quote from mudclean:
I can. Isaiah prophecied that Alexander the Great's kingdom would be divided among four rulers. The prophecy was made about 500 years prior to it happening.

Isaiah never mentioned Alexander the Great.

Looking back through thousands of years of history for anything that happens to sound like what some ancient prophecy described is just silly

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mudclean
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Quote from lobo_corazon:
Isaiah never mentioned Alexander the Great.

Looking back through thousands of years of history for anything that happens to sound like what some ancient prophecy described is just silly


You are correct Lobo. It's in Daniel and Zechariah. I should be more careful to ensure accuracy before posting. Thank you for correcting my error.

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It is important for me to know how old the world is.

Earth Day is on April 22 and need to know how many candals to put on the cake.

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mudclean
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Let's put this prophecy debate to bed. Gaza was abandoned in the 2005 Bush deal. Israel inherited Palestinians. Israel was born in a day after suffering through the holocaust. Israel was gathered back in the exact order prophecied. Israel returned to Jerusalem. Israel's land went from desert to awesome. Israel defeated armies much larger in size. Israel exports food all over the world. All prophecied. All proven. End of story.

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mudclean
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Quote from w6o6l6f_1:
It is important for me to know how old the world is.

Earth Day is on April 22 and need to know how many candals to put on the cake.


I'm using electric candles.

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amusicluvr
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Quote from mudclean:
Your entire premise is false. The word created literally means created. I don't see finished in the definition below.


to create, shape, form
(Qal) to shape, fashion, create (always with God as subject)
of heaven and earth
of individual man
of new conditions and circumstances
of transformations
(Niphal) to be created
of heaven and earth
of birth
of something new
of miracles
(Piel)
to cut down
to cut out
to be fat
(Hiphil) to make yourselves fat


Using an English dictionary to define Hebrew words, is kind of stupid. Genesis was NOT originally written in English.

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amusicluvr
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mudhead - Isaiah had nothing to say about Alexander The Great, or his Kingdom. Neither did Daniel, or any other Biblical prophet.

What BS are you going to fling next? Tell us that The Beast Of Revelation is Oprah Winfrey?



[Edited 3/11/2017 9:40:18 PM ]

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mudclean
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Quote from amusicluvr:
Using an English dictionary to define Hebrew words, is kind of stupid. Genesis was NOT originally written in English.


That's from Strong's Concordance. Quit while you're behind. I'm not going to correct you every time you're wrong. You wouldn't believe the truth if I slapped you with it.

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mudclean
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Quote from amusicluvr:
mudhead - Isaiah had nothing to say about Alexander The Great, or his Kingdom. Neither did Daniel, or any other Biblical prophet.

What BS are you going to fling next? Tell us that The Beast Of Revelation is Oprah Winfrey?


I already corrected myself. Scroll up a few posts. Daniel chapter 8 is a prophecy of Alexander's untimely demise at the height of his power and his kingdom being divided into four.

I was wrong. The Bible is right. Move on.

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herc117
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We are living in a Simulation. Something like the matrix.

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mudclean
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Tell the programmers I want lotto numbers

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blake6972
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Quote from mudclean:
Let's put this prophecy debate to bed. Gaza was abandoned in the 2005 Bush deal. Israel inherited Palestinians. Israel was born in a day after suffering through the holocaust. Israel was gathered back in the exact order prophecied. Israel returned to Jerusalem. Israel's land went from desert to awesome. Israel defeated armies much larger in size. Israel exports food all over the world. All prophecied. All proven. End of story.


Third Temple to be built.
The tenth red heifer.



A false peace accord brokered by the Anti-Christ.

False Prophet at the Anti-Christ's disposal .

One World Government.

The Two Witnesses

WW3.

Seven year Tribulation.

Peace accord broke by the one who brokered it after the first 3 1/2 years of The Tribulation.

I could go on and on.
Fulfilled prophecies prove God's Living Word.


Armageddon.
Satan chained.
The Millennial Reign.
The New Jerusalem.
Satan loose for a season.
The Final Battle.


The Great White Throne Judgment .


The New Earth. (Heaven)

These are some of the big ones.
There are many more.

Highly intense.

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amusicluvr
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Quote from mudclean:
That's from Strong's Concordance. Quit while you're behind. I'm not going to correct you every time you're wrong. You wouldn't believe the truth if I slapped you with it.


You mis-read Strong's then. Try again. Also, cross reference with Young's. Then take some Hebrew lessons.

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mudclean
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Quote from amusicluvr:
You mis-read Strong's then. Try again. Also, cross reference with Young's. Then take some Hebrew lessons.


Young's literal translation of Genesis 1:1 reads "In the beginning of God's preparing the heavens and the earth"

Perhaps you misunderstood Young's Concordance as well.

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sdgncalix3
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When did this turn into bible study?

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mudclean
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
When did this turn into bible study?


When some knucklehead asked a dumb question.

Now as for music, the word bara literally means to fatten or fill. The more I learn, the more you're wrong music.

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sdgncalix3
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No one asked about bible stuff.

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blake6972
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Yes they did.
Plus the real age of time would be biblically related.

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sdgncalix3
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Who wrote the bible?

Do you follow the Old Testament or New Testament?

Or do you pick and choose from both?

What about the scripture or books that were removed?


How do you know it's the true word of God when men wrote it?

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blake6972
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Men wrote all the books of The Word of God, but they were inspired by God Himself.
They were human fountain pens if you will.

The books that were left out were not to be in.
Alot of theses authors wrote other related books but were not inspired in the manner as the books of God's Living Word.

The art of brevity at its finest, is breathing from the pages of God's Word.

We have what we need and some.

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cupocheer
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
Who wrote the bible?

The Bible wasn't written.

It was compiled.


Do you follow the Old Testament or New Testament?

The New Testament.

The Jews disobeyed God and He took the responsibility of religious teaching away from their Rabbis.


Or do you pick and choose from both?

The New Testament is the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophesy; what's to puck and choose.

What about the scripture or books that were removed?

No scripture was removed. Study your biblical history.

When the 72 Rabbis translated the Torah from Hebrew to Greek they translated everything -- whether it was inspired, or not. This translation was called the SEPTUAGINT. This is the version which Jesus taught from.

When antiquities were approved to be gathered together and a book of these writings was approved a counsel of Rabbis met and made the determination of what was "God inspired scrioture" and what wasn't. Then "books" were organized by genre:eye witness accounts (gospel), law, history, vision etc.

Originally, all "books" were included in what became known as the Holy Bible (catholic printing 1610/KJV printing 16qq).

Into the future, publishers of 'bibles' were printing the non-inspired books as the Apocrypha, which was included in all original bibles.

Eventually, publishers (at their sole discretion) stopped publishing the Apocrypha as part of the Bible. [Cost effectiveness? ]

The Catholic Bible still contains the non-inspired Apocrypha.



How do you know it's the true word of God when men wrote it?

Men didn't "write" it; they scribed (copied) what had been written in antiquity.

God told Moses to 'record' (write) what He told him and let the people know what God required of them.




I have a question for you ~~

How do you know the Bible isn't the Word of God?


Have a great day.

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sdgncalix3
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To answer your question Cup.

Because men wrote it and they are corrupt.

It's used to control people.

3/12/2017 10:58:39 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 5  
cupocheer
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Cali -- please don't miss the big picture.

MEN did not WRITE the BIBLE.

GOD DICTATED HIS WORD TO MAN (Moses)

Moses was ordered by God to write it down (what God told him). Moses did as God commanded.

Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years later those ORIGINAL writings (many of which DO exist) in parchment, papyrus, stone etc were gathered together and organized and made into a book we have access to called the Bible.

The Bible, Cali, only contains eight (8) differences today from the original antiquities of thousands of years ago.

Those differences are "words". Words which no longer existed, words which couldn't be translated because thevtranslation didn't exist (look at your KJV, or whatever Bible you have) look for the words in italics. Those words are not being "emphasized" they are representative of a replacement word for a missing it untranslatable word in the original antiquity.

The 'scribes' of the Bible were meticulous, religiously devout men. The did not corrupt God's word.

Don't allow the 'false prophets' running rampant in this world to sway or convince you of anything that God leads you to.

Amen.

3/12/2017 11:12:42 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 5  
sdgncalix3
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Quote from cupocheer:


Cali -- please don't miss the big picture.

MEN did not WRITE the BIBLE.

GOD DICTATED HIS WORD TO MAN (Moses)

Moses was ordered by God to write it down (what God told him). Moses did as God commanded.

Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years later those ORIGINAL writings (many of which DO exist) in parchment, papyrus, stone etc were gathered together and organized and made into a book we have access to called the Bible.

The Bible, Cali, only contains eight (8) differences today from the original antiquities of thousands of years ago.

Those differences are "words". Words which no longer existed, words which couldn't be translated because thevtranslation didn't exist (look at your KJV, or whatever Bible you have) look for the words in italics. Those words are not being "emphasized" they are representative of a replacement word for a missing it untranslatable word in the original antiquity.

The 'scribes' of the Bible were meticulous, religiously devout men. The did not corrupt God's word.

Don't allow the 'false prophets' running rampant in this world to sway or convince you of anything that God leads you to.

Amen.



At least you are pleasant in the way you present things.

I was raised around and with religIon. I just don't buy into a lot of it.

I have my way of seeing things and that works for me.

In order for me to believe things I have to see them with my own eyes. Not because someone said so.

The fact is, that everything in the bible could be 100 percent true.

I just don't have a reason to believe that. No one has been compelling enough for me



[Edited 3/12/2017 11:14:40 AM ]

3/12/2017 11:16:06 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 5  

blake6972
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Yes, many of men have and still do misuse The Word of God for the promotion of hate and ill gain.

Such is their reward.
They (all) will be dealt with accordingly by the very Word they misuse with purposeful malicious intent.

Woe to those individuals.

Your the Capitan of your ship calix.
Know your ship and all the components.
Don't assume what others tell you are accurate.
Study and search the scriptures yourself.
Not haphazardly of course.
It is your compass.

By the way , a true prophet cannot lie.
The gift of prophecy doesn't exist today.
The Word of God (written, not yet fulfilled prophecies) is complete and has been.

Revelation
Chapter 22 verse 19

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part out of the Book of Life, and out of the Holy City, and from the things which are written in this Book.

3/12/2017 11:18:49 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 5  
sdgncalix3
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If heaven is full of uptight people that only have missionary sex, don't swear, think rock and roll is the devil, I don't want any part of that.

3/12/2017 11:19:27 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 5  
cupocheer
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Excellent, Cali.

God wants you to come to Him because you believe. Not because others have tried to convince you what to believe or do.

Take a moment, Cali --- look in the mirror, please.

Explain to yourself what you see reflected there.

Blessings.

3/12/2017 11:22:02 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 5  
sdgncalix3
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My relationship with God and the universe is fine.

3/12/2017 11:30:40 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 5  

mudclean
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
To answer your question Cup.

Because men wrote it and they are corrupt.

It's used to control people.


If the Bible was written to control people then why does it specifically argue against control?

3/12/2017 11:31:05 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 5  
cupocheer
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
If EARTH is full of uptight people that only have missionary sex, don't swear, think rock and roll is the devil, I don't want any part of that.


^^ I modified one word in your post, Cali.

Isn't this corrected version what you actually were attempting to impart?

3/12/2017 11:37:05 AM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 5  
sdgncalix3
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Quote from mudclean:
If the Bible was written to control people then why does it specifically argue against control?


I have no idea, but you seem to.

So your question is irrelevant.


Cup, I avoid those people on earth.



[Edited 3/12/2017 11:37:35 AM ]

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catlover418
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Quote from sdgncalix3:

Because men wrote it


Men did write it, as they were inspired by the Holy Spirit.

3/12/2017 12:15:07 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 5  
sdgncalix3
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Men are corrupt and can say the Holy Spirit told them this or told them that.

Anything to fit their narrative

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progrocknic
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
Men are corrupt and can say the Holy Spirit told them this or told them that.

Anything to fit their narrative


I read a story about a guy who cut off his kids penis in the bathtub because God told him to do it. I guess it's a good thing that guy didn't write the bible.

3/12/2017 12:17:18 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 5  
sdgncalix3
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Yep

3/12/2017 12:32:42 PM How old is the universe/earth? | Page 5  

blake6972
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
Men are corrupt and can say the Holy Spirit told them this or told them that.

Anything to fit their narrative


People can say whatever, but if it doesn't line up with The Word of God whithin the context of His Word, than you will know if they misspoke or if they have a personal agenda that is not of God.

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Quote from progrocknic:
I read a story about a guy who cut off his kids penis in the bathtub because God told him to do it. I guess it's a good thing that guy didn't write the bible.