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6/27/2014 9:22:47 PM Dinner date attire  

jester__
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Quote from beautifulfire08:
Ummmm....who said anything about children?




You were talking about how you dress in public. You do realize there are children out in public right?




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6/27/2014 9:29:50 PM Dinner date attire  
hounds_again
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Children smell like pets

6/27/2014 9:34:58 PM Dinner date attire  

lovessmart
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Corona, CA
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Quote from musicdesign:
He has replied several times. You were too busy composing your attack back to read it.


Sorry, I thought I read all the posts. I didn't see his answer. I was not attacking. I was disagreeing with his attitude. I got it that she was dressed differently than he expected. And he agreed it was very important that he look good by her looking good and it seems nothing else was of higher importance.

6/27/2014 9:53:35 PM Dinner date attire  
riflessivo
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I don't know I always believed it was down to a woman to look like she looked after herself. Clean, hair done. Smart clothing and feeling relaxed. Which by the sound of it she did and you did.

Now when she's got to know you a little then she may wear clothing for you to appreciate.

Like dinning, if you are going somewhere special. You wear something special.

I'm just glad she felt confident in what she was wearing.

6/27/2014 10:03:04 PM Dinner date attire  

reginamc
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6/27/2014 10:10:15 PM Dinner date attire  

reginamc
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If he says "I would love to see you dolled up" (first of all, how old are you OP to be saying dolled up)? Sounds like something ole Fire would say

If he says that, I'm sorry but that gives me no clue what HE is going to show up looking like. He's only talking about me.

I wish I had pictures of some of the outfits I've seen guys wearing that I met on dating sites.

Maybe I will tell them to "doll up" for me.

6/27/2014 10:11:08 PM Dinner date attire  

beautifulfire08
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Quote from reginamc:
If he says "I would love to see you dolled up" (first of all, how old are you OP to be saying dolled up)? Sounds like something ole Fire would say

If he says that, I'm sorry but that gives me no clue what HE is going to show up looking like. He's only talking about me.

I wish I had pictures of some of the outfits I've seen guys wearing that I met on dating sites.

Maybe I will tell them to "doll up" for me.
Ole c*nt, it's nothing I would say. Remember, old sow, you're older than I am.

6/27/2014 10:12:24 PM Dinner date attire  

beautifulfire08
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Quote from jester__:
Beautiful maybe having your boobs showing isn't appropriate around children
I don't go ANYWHERE where my BOOBS are showing. Cleavage and "boobs" are not the same thing.

As far as showing cleavage around children, what the f**k are you, a prude?

6/27/2014 10:13:23 PM Dinner date attire  
flirty_n_fun67
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Belleville, ON
48, joined Sep. 2010


Quote from reginamc:
If he says "I would love to see you dolled up" (first of all, how old are you OP to be saying dolled up)? Sounds like something ole Fire would say

If he says that, I'm sorry but that gives me no clue what HE is going to show up looking like. He's only talking about me.

I wish I had pictures of some of the outfits I've seen guys wearing that I met on dating sites.

Maybe I will tell them to "doll up" for me.



Will you be expecting make-up and a dress?...If he doesnt wear what you expect...i think you better do a 64 page thread on the matter...

6/27/2014 10:14:58 PM Dinner date attire  

beautifulfire08
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Quote from lovessmart:
Do you always try to pick fights with someone who doesn't agree with you? Yes, I wore that for me. I was going to a Luau and I was going to be on of the Hawaiian dancers, and that's how we all dressed. Not that it's your business. I thought it looked cute. It really doesn't matter if you think on a dating sight it is inappropriate, because I am not lesbian and have no interest in you.
If you want to consider it "picking a fight," be my guest.

So you were going to a luau and you thought it looked cute. Like you didn't realize that showing cleavage was going to attract men.

I never said it was inappropriate, and b*tch, I'm as straight as it gets, but even if I weren't ,the LAST person I'd be interested in is YOU.

That said, I actually was wondering if you were a dyke, because you really do look like one.

6/27/2014 10:24:31 PM Dinner date attire  

reginamc
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Quote from flirty_n_fun67:
Will you be expecting make-up and a dress?...If he doesnt wear what you expect...i think you better do a 64 page thread on the matter...


Oh, this subject has been covered with a couple of dating partners, and it did not end well trust me.

6/27/2014 10:27:01 PM Dinner date attire  

reginamc
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And Sheila, say something original or STFU. Tired of you.

6/27/2014 11:27:32 PM Dinner date attire  

eyesofmedusa
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Cairo
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Quote from rdeffley:
In the middle of the call I commented on it, and towards the end I said I wanted to see her in it. There wasn't any room for guessing whatsoever.

She knew what I wanted to see her in and she is the type of woman that likes wearing feminine outfits. So that is why I was shocked by what she had on.




Okay...Back to point ppl.........

Look at the statement in BOLD..........

HE WANTED TO SEE HER IN IT............On the second occasion he is going to see her ? He is saying what he wants..........you are okay with this ? Not second month........hell not even the second week of dating.............SECOND TIME HE WILL SEE HER......

Just like a good marketing strategy the OP was able to toss all of you off what his intent was........and mire you down
in the "appropriate vs inappropriate" thought.

Please look at his original OP.........also......he used the phrase "rubbed him the wrong way" ...because he didn't get "what he WANTED"........

Then if I am not mistaken he further said....that lil dress ..the form fitting one < notice no mention of her likes...only his

And then he added....with some sexy heels < again....his likes......not hers......she didn't factor into this scenario of his
.......at all..........other than an object.

Now what if she had shown up in a loosely fitting dress and flats ? Would he have been disappointed ?

You better believe your sweet a** he would have been........for he was looking for the pic on page 3....with a lil added dash of
sexy aka the heels.......JUST TO PLEASE HIM.........show me you will please me date........

Had she shown up in slacks..nice top...etc ? Same damn reaction would have been seen on the part of the OP,however he wouldn't
have been inclined to make a thread about it.

This at NO TIME IS OR WAS ABOUT APPROPRIATE VS INAPPROPRIATE............this was however........all about showing an effort to please him.....to give him what he WANTS...as he CLEARLY STATED ABOVE.

I have watched this poster for 2 yrs, and believe me this isn't about him thinking what ya'll are thinking.......

You have been swayed to side with him based on something the thread isn't truly about.......

God..ya gotta luv marketing psych.........

This is what I think happened..............she met him had fun, but saw something.........that sent off an alarm.....

Then he asked for the date.......when the phrase "Dolled up...form fitting and heels" came up...she saw red flashers.

Personally I would have called off the date right there, but her being young or hopeful ? She carried it out and showed up in something that was more "her", many have pics on here from an event or occasion and in now way is how they usually dress.

The date went fine.............passionate kiss and all........

Then the OP calls with yet another demand to please him......TO GIVE HIM WHAT HE WANTS.

And her suspicions are proven correct and she hangs up the phone in his face.........

Am I saying all men are like the OP ? No

Am I saying it is wrong to hope that someone dresses nicely for a date ? No

Am I saying just because you see the date one way the other person is also ? Hell no

Am I saying you should expect for others to always see things as you do ? I wouldn't suggest it.

Am I saying it is wrong for some ppl to want to put in an "effort" to look cute/handsome/lovely etc for a date ? No

Am I saying it is wrong for some ppl to EXPECT AND DEMAND IT by offering clothing choices to said date ? Hell yes

If you are okay with your date saying "I WANT TO see you in that dress you have in pic #3 and I would like heels with it in lieu of flats" and you don't see this as "I would like #3 with spicy ketchup instead of mayo" ? Great

Again....the moment he said "I want"...I would have hung up the phone, it is a clear indicator of how he sees himself vs how he sees me.......it is also a very clear indicator of how this relationship would be...........all about him.

He didn't ask if she was okay with the choice of venue......he demanded what she should wear............then demanded it yet AGAIN..........

Stay on point ppl damnit

However that is exactly how I would see it............am I wrong ? No.........are you wrong ? No........it is merely a diff of perspective.......

Diff of likes and dislikes..........I deeply dislike any human telling me what to wear and when.............

I would deeply dislike a man saying "I want to see you in ......." I would deeply dislike not being included or even asked if I was comfortable with his choice in eateries.......

Why ? Because I have been there and done that.............I am going to guess many have not ..........hence the non issue with it because they have not had a controlling ..selfish...egotistical human in their lives........



[Edited 6/27/2014 11:29:39 PM ]

6/27/2014 11:44:47 PM Dinner date attire  
rdeffley
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San Jose, CA
35, joined Sep. 2009


Medusa,

A demand would be - "You're going to wear that dress"

A suggestion - "I'd like to see you in that dress I mentioned on the meet greet".

In the beginning people were saying I wasn't clear with what I'd like to see her in. I let her know with a polite suggestion, not a demand which dress I was a fan of. So there was no guesswork involved.

Also when I called, I stressed that I had a good time and that I wanted to see her again. But I also let her know that I was disappointed in what she had on. Not in the mindset that she defied me like you're making it out to be? but in the mindset that her complete lack of effort was disappointing.

6/27/2014 11:55:12 PM Dinner date attire  

eyesofmedusa
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Cairo
Egypt
52, joined Jun. 2012


Quote from rdeffley:
Medusa,

A demand would be - "You're going to wear that dress"

A suggestion - "I'd like to see you in that dress I mentioned on the meet greet".

In the beginning people were saying I wasn't clear with what I'd like to see her in. I let her know with a polite suggestion, not a demand which dress I was a fan of. So there was no guesswork involved.

Also when I called, I stressed that I had a good time and that I wanted to see her again. But I also let her know that I was disappointed in what she had on. Not in the mindset that she defied me like you're making it out to be? but in the mindset that her complete lack of effort was disappointing.



No....you said "I want to see you in that dress" ..I am quoting YOU RD........

That is a demand........no matter how much you sugar coat it.........it is........subtle yes ........but a demand nonetheless...........I would have said "Goodbye" right then.......to be honest.

You never included her in the plans...............only her attire........

To please you...........

You can con some of these ppl RD............but I have watched you post for 2 yrs........2 solid yrs.........and I know better.

You are a man who wants to be pleased............to have a woman "submit" to you.......you have said it time and time again........

You could have changed venues...."You know what ? I am really not feeling the Cheesecake Factory ..how about we try ________?" ........You chose not to.

She let you know beyond all doubt that she was going to do as she saw fit for herself......I am sure she bathed etc ? To her ? That was enough effort........end game.

Because YOU WANTED to see more ? Error on your part with this particular woman I would say.

You are a demanding man RD.........you want women to submit..........and you picked the wrong prey this time..........

6/28/2014 1:05:46 AM Dinner date attire  

lovessmart
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Corona, CA
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Quote from beautifulfire08:
If you want to consider it "picking a fight," be my guest.

So you were going to a luau and you thought it looked cute. Like you didn't realize that showing cleavage was going to attract men.

I never said it was inappropriate, and b*tch, I'm as straight as it gets, but even if I weren't ,the LAST person I'd be interested in is YOU.

That said, I actually was wondering if you were a dyke, because you really do look like one.


Such character you have. I disagree with you and you act like some of these guys on here.

Think what you like. It's not skin off my back.

6/28/2014 1:12:12 AM Dinner date attire  
tellitlkittis
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6/28/2014 1:18:49 AM Dinner date attire  

lovessmart
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Thanks eyesofmedusa

You said it much better than I could of. By the way you were being kind to say he was subtle. I didn't even think he was being subtle. A self-centered person, controlling person usually doesn't show their hand so early in dating.

6/28/2014 2:08:10 AM Dinner date attire  
zombietrouble7
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6/28/2014 2:25:12 AM Dinner date attire  
e_llicit
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So many Are so caught up in not being controlled and told what to do that they have totally forgotten what it's like to Be With a person you like and is Pursuing you. It's so Much more important to be belligerent and controlling then To enjoy the courting dance And possibly connect with someone that will bring you happiness.

Enjoy your Lonely independence.

6/28/2014 2:56:35 AM Dinner date attire  
anja_lou514
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I wore shorts, a tank top, and sandals for my last first date. No makeup and my hair in a ponytail as well. We've been together three years now. I think he has seen me wearing makeup maybe twice since we met. In the beginning, I would typically ask him what he was planning to wear so that I could be sure that I wouldn't be over or under dressed. You might want to try going that route in the future to avoid this problem.

6/28/2014 3:22:44 AM Dinner date attire  

lovessmart
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Quote from e_llicit:
So many Are so caught up in not being controlled and told what to do that they have totally forgotten what it's like to Be With a person you like and is Pursuing you. It's so Much more important to be belligerent and controlling then To enjoy the courting dance And possibly connect with someone that will bring you happiness.

Enjoy your Lonely independence.


I know how to just be, but when I am with someone that can't do that and has an addenda other than just being with me as OP does, I run in the opposite direction. It's not controlling to not allowing to be controlled. It's preservation. I do not choose to be controlled because it always ends badly. The only good relationship in my book is one were their is mutual respect. Any other is for other people, not me.

6/28/2014 7:06:53 AM Dinner date attire  

beautifulfire08
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Quote from lovessmart:
Thanks eyesofmedusa

You said it much better than I could of. By the way you were being kind to say he was subtle. I didn't even think he was being subtle. A self-centered person, controlling person usually doesn't show their hand so early in dating.


It's "could've," which is saying "could HAVE," not "could OF." Just FYI.

The OP did absolutely NOTHING wrong. I'm very independent, liberal, and a feminist in many respects, but I still like men. I still like looking attractive to men, and I think the NORMAL thing that most NORMAL people will do is try to look attractive for their date, especially if it's a first date.

The OP didn't demand, he didn't cajole, he didn't threaten. He stated he'd like to see her in the dress she had on in the picture and, rather than wear that or some similar outfit or even nice slacks and a blouse, she came dressed like she was about to mow the lawn.

His suggesting she wear a dress he deemed visually pleasing to him is in NO WAY him being "controlling."

My God, no wonder you can't get a man.

And how the hell you got that he was "self centered and controlling" is beyond me. OMG. Really?



[Edited 6/28/2014 7:09:36 AM ]

6/28/2014 7:08:20 AM Dinner date attire  

beautifulfire08
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Quote from lovessmart:
Such character you have. I disagree with you and you act like some of these guys on here.

Think what you like. It's not skin off my back.
I have great character. Just FYI. You don't exactly display stellar characteristics yourself, suggesting I'm a lesbo. Ha. At least, when I go out on a date, I know to dress FOR the man and not LIKE the man.

6/28/2014 8:46:45 AM Dinner date attire  
musicdesign
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before long this thread will hit 1,000


I can say with confidence that if OP and I were speaking (example only) about men's cologne and I asked him what he wore, he'd tell me a few. If I then said, you know what? I'd really like for you to wear (insert cologne name) when we go out to dinner, he would have. is the big deal everyone? It is about making someone brand new in your life happy with "LITTLE" effort.

6/28/2014 9:28:35 AM Dinner date attire  

eyesofmedusa
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Quote from lovessmart:
Thanks eyesofmedusa

You said it much better than I could of. By the way you were being kind to say he was subtle. I didn't even think he was being subtle. A self-centered person, controlling person usually doesn't show their hand so early in dating.


I know the Op girl...I'm fully aware of what HIS intent was based on posting with him for over 2 yrs...notice his usage of the word "defy" ?

He ..wants..desires...craves...submissive women...and this was HIS attempt to see how quickly he cld get her to do exactly as he pleased.

Nothing wrong with it really.....just a miscalculation on his part in his selection of prey.

What stunned me in all of this ? Is how many went to great lengths to claim what SHE shld hv done without really focusing on what the Op actually said.

Absolutely amazing......

6/28/2014 9:39:33 AM Dinner date attire  

beautifulfire08
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Quote from eyesofmedusa:
I know the Op girl...I'm fully aware of what HIS intent was based on posting with him for over 2 yrs...notice his usage of the word "defy" ?

He ..wants..desires...craves...submissive women...and this was HIS attempt to see how quickly he cld get her to do exactly as he pleased.

Nothing wrong with it really.....just a miscalculation on his part in his selection of prey.

What stunned me in all of this ? Is how many went to great lengths to claim what SHE shld hv done without really focusing on what the Op actually said.

Absolutely amazing......
Didn't realize you were personally acquainted with him.

Where is the post that he used the word "defy?" Can you post the entire post, and not just the word, please?

In his original post, nothing he says suggests anything of the kind. The OP actually said nothing wrong. I haven't seen every single one of his posts, but nothing I have seen raised a red flag with me.

6/28/2014 9:44:56 AM Dinner date attire  

eyesofmedusa
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Quote from beautifulfire08:
Didn't realize you were personally acquainted with him.

Where is the post that he used the word "defy?" Can you post the entire post, and not just the word, please?

In his original post, nothing he says suggests anything of the kind. The OP actually said nothing wrong. I haven't seen every single one of his posts, but nothing I have seen raised a red flag with me.


Girl..I'm on my phone...65 pages

He has used it....and he has used it in previous threads....

He is a "dominante" man....he has said it a zillion times in here...he and I hv engaged so many times it's not funny..well kinda...

I attract men like him.....in real world....I hv to stay on point when it comes to the flags...so I see them when others don't.

6/28/2014 9:46:01 AM Dinner date attire  

photoartistguy
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I always wear pants

6/28/2014 9:48:27 AM Dinner date attire  

eyesofmedusa
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Good choice Photo

6/28/2014 9:50:37 AM Dinner date attire  
zombietrouble7
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Quote from photoartistguy:
I always wear pants

Pansy!

6/28/2014 9:53:51 AM Dinner date attire  

bigbear_is_back
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I don't think it's appropriate to TELL a woman or even make a suggestion of what to wear or even how she should look , like getting *Dolled Up* a bit ... what the hell is that ..

However , if she ASKS of your OPINION then the field has changed a little , and even then , telling her what you think she SHOULD wear is not a good idea either ...

I've been in that spot hundreds of times and my reply was always the same ,

" I think you'd look good in anything , but since you asked , do I have any options to choose from "

hre answer was always what I expected , " well I was thinking about this , this or that , what do think ? "

she would always hear me reply the same way every time , " I think you would look really good in either one of them , it doesn't take much for you to look great " ..

and that same big smile would come across her face ...



point is , in my perspective , you never tell a woman what to wear or how to look , she is looking her best for you , not you wanting her to look her best for YOU , because sometimes what YOU may suggest isn't what she really had in mind in the first place ..





If I'm wrong or off topic , it doesn't matter ... it's still my opinion here ..

6/28/2014 9:57:06 AM Dinner date attire  
outhere925
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Adiddas track suit. Wife beater gold chain and wave cap. Nikes

6/28/2014 10:11:22 AM Dinner date attire  
josfsd06
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Quote from rdeffley:
Has it really come to the point where people have to discuss what they're wearing? Shouldn't some things fall under common sense? If you have a dinner date at a relatively nice place, you put some effort into what you're wearing.


Well, dipshit, YOU are the one who's making an issue of attire. And, yes, a discussion of attire has ALWAYS been protocol. You're appeal to "common sense" is an admission, on your part, that you lack the sophistication to specify.

If you asked a woman on a date, and didn't specify it was formal, her showing up in jeans and a T-shirt is YOUR mistake, not hers. Assuming other people can read your mind is a recipe for failure.

Good luck with that!

6/28/2014 10:37:00 AM Dinner date attire  

lovessmart
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Corona, CA
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Quote from eyesofmedusa:
I know the Op girl...I'm fully aware of what HIS intent was based on posting with him for over 2 yrs...notice his usage of the word "defy" ?

He ..wants..desires...craves...submissive women...and this was HIS attempt to see how quickly he cld get her to do exactly as he pleased.

Nothing wrong with it really.....just a miscalculation on his part in his selection of prey.

What stunned me in all of this ? Is how many went to great lengths to claim what SHE shld hv done without really focusing on what the Op actually said.

Absolutely amazing......


I know. I was so surprised that these woman missed the whole point of control and were focused on her behavior. I am with you, I would have saw that right away. I am not sure if some of these women are really getting the impact of what he was saying. It really was loud and clear to me. Maybe it's their need to justify their people pleasing ways. You know I have told you and the forums here how much I like men. There are so many not like him (controlling), but so many fall into their trap. I just glad this girl didn't.

For those of you who can see it, and all the men, we know you are not all like that and am very glad your not.

6/28/2014 10:39:42 AM Dinner date attire  

lovessmart
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Quote from beautifulfire08:
It's "could've," which is saying "could HAVE," not "could OF." Just FYI.

The OP did absolutely NOTHING wrong. I'm very independent, liberal, and a feminist in many respects, but I still like men. I still like looking attractive to men, and I think the NORMAL thing that most NORMAL people will do is try to look attractive for their date, especially if it's a first date.

The OP didn't demand, he didn't cajole, he didn't threaten. He stated he'd like to see her in the dress she had on in the picture and, rather than wear that or some similar outfit or even nice slacks and a blouse, she came dressed like she was about to mow the lawn.

His suggesting she wear a dress he deemed visually pleasing to him is in NO WAY him being "controlling."

My God, no wonder you can't get a man.

And how the hell you got that he was "self centered and controlling" is beyond me. OMG. Really?


I do have a man!

6/28/2014 10:43:22 AM Dinner date attire  
riflessivo
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Quote from lovessmart:
I do have a man!


I wouldn't worry she only needs to open her mouth and they run



[Edited 6/28/2014 10:43:42 AM ]

6/28/2014 10:44:21 AM Dinner date attire  
yeahyeahlol
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Let ur pants sag on first date

6/28/2014 10:56:54 AM Dinner date attire  

lovessmart
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Quote from riflessivo:
I wouldn't worry she only needs to open her mouth and they run


Yes, I will remind her as I remind the guys, that all the things they write here are forever attached to their profiles. I love directing people to the posts. It's wonderful insight into their character.

6/28/2014 10:59:00 AM Dinner date attire  
riflessivo
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Quote from yeahyeahlol:
Let ur pants sag on first date


Heath put yo belt on

6/28/2014 10:59:46 AM Dinner date attire  
riflessivo
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@ Love I honestly don't think it phases her normally ends up creating another profile.

6/28/2014 11:04:04 AM Dinner date attire  

lovessmart
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Quote from riflessivo:
@ Love I honestly don't think it phases her normally ends up creating another profile.


Ah yes, that is one way of not taking responsibility for your words. Good point.

6/28/2014 11:05:25 AM Dinner date attire  
sir_hugo_drax
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Quote from yeahyeahlol:
Let ur pants sag on first date


This would be totally acceptable, according to many here if it's comfortable and how one normally dresses.
Sag on, brother!



6/28/2014 11:08:23 AM Dinner date attire  
lilod
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Quote from sir_hugo_drax:
This would be totally acceptable, according to many here if it's comfortable and how one normally dresses.
Sag on, brother!



More than acceptable--preferable. If it's "how one normally dresses," what's the upside to disguising that on early dates? I want to see the person I'd be dating six months down the road, not some idealized, good behavior version who tells me nothing about who I'm really dealing with.

Of course, that extends far beyond attire, but that's definitely an aspect.

6/28/2014 11:37:35 AM Dinner date attire  
sir_hugo_drax
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Quote from lilod:
More than acceptable--preferable. If it's "how one normally dresses," what's the upside to disguising that on early dates? I want to see the person I'd be dating six months down the road, not some idealized, good behavior version who tells me nothing about who I'm really dealing with.

Of course, that extends far beyond attire, but that's definitely an aspect.


The wearing of clothing or a style of clothing is hardly a disguise. As even those on your side of the aisle will attest, clothing doesn't tell who you are. But they are often used to communicate certain information about you whether that's right or wrong. Most of my friends wear saggies and hoodies, but they also know that there are times to dress differently. They know that slouching around the campus and dorms is not the same as going to interview for a job. They know that hanging out at the frat with a bunch of bros is not the same as going out on a date with a young lady.

And as far as a disguise, I know who I am regardless of haberdashery. But that really isn't the point!

6/28/2014 11:42:20 AM Dinner date attire  
zombietrouble7
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Damn,is there anything left of this dead horse to beat?

6/28/2014 11:47:24 AM Dinner date attire  
sir_hugo_drax
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Quote from zombietrouble7:
Damn,is there anything left of this dead horse to beat?

You are correct. You are a wise person and I shall take your hint.





[Edited 6/28/2014 11:47:40 AM ]

6/28/2014 11:53:32 AM Dinner date attire  
musicdesign
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By nature, I am a jeans girl, wearing an old pair right now. I certainly would not wear this pair on a dinner date (unless) it was a picnic or beach setting. I know what to wear and when. It has nothing to do with someone being controlling or bossy if a suggestion is made. I have certainly made suggestions in the past myself and I am far from controlling in personality.

6/28/2014 12:49:07 PM Dinner date attire  

reginamc
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Quote from zombietrouble7:
Damn,is there anything left of this dead horse to beat?


It's still twitching. Needs a few more whacks.

Wait, that didn't sound too good.

6/28/2014 3:23:48 PM Dinner date attire  

beautifulfire08
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Quote from musicdesign:
By nature, I am a jeans girl, wearing an old pair right now. I certainly would not wear this pair on a dinner date (unless) it was a picnic or beach setting. I know what to wear and when. It has nothing to do with someone being controlling or bossy if a suggestion is made. I have certainly made suggestions in the past myself and I am far from controlling in personality.
Ditto. Same here.

6/28/2014 3:25:35 PM Dinner date attire  

beautifulfire08
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Quote from lovessmart:
I know. I was so surprised that these woman missed the whole point of control and were focused on her behavior. I am with you, I would have saw that right away. I am not sure if some of these women are really getting the impact of what he was saying. It really was loud and clear to me. Maybe it's their need to justify their people pleasing ways. You know I have told you and the forums here how much I like men. There are so many not like him (controlling), but so many fall into their trap. I just glad this girl didn't.

For those of you who can see it, and all the men, we know you are not all like that and am very glad your not.
Hate to tell you this, but a guy saying "I'd like to see you in that dress, I think you look HOT in it," is not being controlling and demanding.

And girl...trust me...If ANYBODY was going to scrutinize what a guy says with a fine toothed jaded eye, it would be me. I'd tell him to f**k off in every language if I had one inkling he was being chauvinistic about it.

But not one thing in his OP indicated that. Not one thing at all. Now, had he made other comments that did, I missed it.

Even so, apparently the slut didn't want to get him back too badly; after all, she sent him on his way with a passionate kiss.



[Edited 6/28/2014 3:28:01 PM ]

6/28/2014 3:29:23 PM Dinner date attire  
lilod
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Quote from sir_hugo_drax:
The wearing of clothing or a style of clothing is hardly a disguise. As even those on your side of the aisle will attest, clothing doesn't tell who you are. But they are often used to communicate certain information about you whether that's right or wrong. Most of my friends wear saggies and hoodies, but they also know that there are times to dress differently. They know that slouching around the campus and dorms is not the same as going to interview for a job. They know that hanging out at the frat with a bunch of bros is not the same as going out on a date with a young lady.

And as far as a disguise, I know who I am regardless of haberdashery. But that really isn't the point!
'

So, are you saying, then, that if a man who normally dresses in "saggies and hoodies" dresses up to make the right impression for a date, that woman can expect to regularly see him in those nicer clothes six months or two years into the relationship? Or, is he in costume attempting to give her the wrong impression about what she can expect?

6/28/2014 3:30:54 PM Dinner date attire  
creekstomperr
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And on , and on , and onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

6/28/2014 3:33:14 PM Dinner date attire  
esmeraldar
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I'm still waiting to find out if there was another date and what she wore.

6/28/2014 3:33:14 PM Dinner date attire  

beautifulfire08
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I wear shorts and Ts in this ungodly humid heat and jeans and sweaters in cold weather. I almost never deter from that.

HOWEVER,


I am not going to wear the same old shit on a first date with a guy...and not likely on most dates.

He asked me out, he is offering to pay. He is picking me up, dropping me off, and he is taking the time and effort to look and smell nice for me, and shave and shower and wash and comb his hair.

The least I can do for him is show him a little appreciation and interest by trying to look pretty and sexy for him.

That is what dating is all about...initiating and maintaining attraction and interest.

6/28/2014 4:27:45 PM Dinner date attire  

lovethelake17
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Quote from lovessmart:
I know. I was so surprised that these woman missed the whole point of control and were focused on her behavior. I am with you, I would have saw that right away. I am not sure if some of these women are really getting the impact of what he was saying. It really was loud and clear to me. Maybe it's their need to justify their people pleasing ways. You know I have told you and the forums here how much I like men. There are so many not like him (controlling), but so many fall into their trap. I just glad this girl didn't.

For those of you who can see it, and all the men, we know you are not all like that and am very glad your not.



So...it's all about all of us seeing the same thing and standing in solidarity together? If we didn't see it, well, then...we're what? Dumb? We don't get the impact of what he was saying? We need to justify our people pleasing ways?

It couldn't be that you and some others saw it through your own filters, and me and some others saw it through our filters and our experiences and our thought processes?

What if there was actually nothing there to see?

Other than two people who quite obviously were not right for each other?

6/28/2014 4:29:21 PM Dinner date attire  
e_llicit
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Quote from lovessmart:
Yes, I will remind her as I remind the guys, that all the things they write here are forever attached to their profiles. I love directing people to the posts. It's wonderful insight into their character.
So?

6/28/2014 4:33:30 PM Dinner date attire  
sir_hugo_drax
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Quote from lilod:
'

So, are you saying, then, that if a man who normally dresses in "saggies and hoodies" dresses up to make the right impression for a date, that woman can expect to regularly see him in those nicer clothes six months or two years into the relationship? Or, is he in costume attempting to give her the wrong impression about what she can expect?

I'm saying that she can expect to see him appropriately attired for whatever event or non-event that they share from now until they lower the casket.

6/28/2014 4:39:50 PM Dinner date attire  
settee_m
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My opinion differs from lovesmart, but I won't argue about it...

I do think it's all about attitude and perception...

How many ways can this statement be taken?

"We're going to the Cheesecake Factory, wear a dress..."

If he says this as a controlling demand, or whether he turns it into a flirty request is all on him...if he's misinterpreted by her, perhaps this isn't a good match...

Personally, I think what's missing here in this thread is a sense of humor...

6/28/2014 4:41:09 PM Dinner date attire  
creekstomperr
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Quote from sir_hugo_drax:
I'm saying that she can expect to see him appropriately attired for whatever event or non-event that they share from now until they lower the casket.



Yep, let's go shopping together .