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Quote from shezakeeper_2:


..........


Good one sheza.. I would have to say yes ..:

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Colin Kaepernick...


Wrong place... Wrong time... Leave the flag out of it...

But what about the message?





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Donald really does not like women...Actually, Donnie Dump mainly loves Donnie Dump...




Below are 42 of the most horrible and sexist remarks to come from the man who could be the next Republican presidential nominee:

“I would never buy Ivana any decent jewels or pictures. Why give her negotiable assets?”
“Beauty and elegance, whether in a woman, a building, or a work of art, is not just superficial or something pretty to see.”
“ 26,000 unreported sexual assults in the military-only 238 convictions. What did these geniuses expect when they put men & women together? ”
“It’s certainly not groundbreaking news that the early victories by the women on ‘The Apprentice’ were, to a very large extent, dependent on their sex appeal.”
“You know, it doesn’t really matter what [the media] write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.”
“You wouldn’t have your job if you weren’t beautiful.”
“The most difficult aspect of the prenuptial agreement is informing your future wife (or husband): I love you very much, but just in case things don’t work out, this is what you will get in the divorce. There are basically three types of women and reactions. One is the good woman who very much loves her future husband, solely for himself, but refuses to sign the agreement on principle. I fully understand this, but the man should take a pass anyway and find someone else. The other is the calculating woman who refuses to sign the prenuptial agreement because she is expecting to take advantage of the poor, unsuspecting sucker she’s got in her grasp. There is also the woman who will openly and quickly sign a prenuptial agreement in order to make a quick hit and take the money given to her.”
“Women have one of the great acts of all time. The smart ones act very feminine and needy, but inside they are real killers. The person who came up with the expression ‘the weaker sex’ was either very naive or had to be kidding. I have seen women manipulate men with just a twitch of their eye — or perhaps another body part.”
“If Hillary Clinton can’t satisfy her husband what makes her think she can satisfy America?”
“[Angelina Jolie’s] been with so many guys she makes me look like a baby... And, I just don’t even find her attractive.”
“While @ BetteMidler is an extremely unattractive woman, I refuse to say that because I always insist on being politically correct. ”
Rosie O’Donnell is “crude, rude, obnoxious and dumb.”
“My favorite part [of ‘Pulp Fiction’] is when Sam has his gun out in the diner and he tells the guy to tell his girlfriend to shut up. Tell that b*tch to be cool. Say: ‘B*tch be cool.’ I love those lines.”
New York Times columnist Gail Collins recalled: “During one down period, I referred to him in print as a ‘financially embattled thousandaire’ and he sent me a copy of the column with my picture circled and ‘The Face of a Dog!’ written over it.”
“Cher is somewhat of a loser. She’s lonely. She’s unhappy. She’s very miserable.”
“All of the women on ‘The Apprentice’ flirted with me — consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected.”
“Robert Pattinson should not take back Kristen Stewart. She cheated on him like a dog & will do it again – just watch. He can do much better!”
“Ariana Huffington is unattractive, both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man – he made a good decision.”
“If I were running ‘The View’, I’d fire Rosie O’Donnell. I mean, I’d look at her right in that fat, ugly face of hers, I’d say ‘Rosie, you’re fired.’”
“I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”
“I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I’m more honest and my women are more beautiful.”
"Lyin' Ted Cruz just used a picture of Melania from a shoot in his ad. Be careful, Lyin' Ted, or I will spill the beans on your wife!"
“Look at that face. Would anybody vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?! I mean, she's a woman, and I'm not s'posedta say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious? ”
“How much money is the extremely unattractive (both inside and out) Arianna Huffington paying her poor ex-hubby for the use of his name?"
“You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her — wherever. ”
“Heidi Klum. Sadly, she’s no longer a 10."
“She was gonna beat Obama. I don't know who would be worse, I don't know, how could it be worse? But she was going to beat -- she was favored to win -- and she got schlonged, she lost, I mean she lost. ”
“She’s back there, little Katy...a third-rate reporter. ”
"Can you imagine the parents of Kelli ... when she said, 'Mom, Dad, I just fell in love with a big, fat pig named Rosie?’ "
“She is a dog who wrongfully comments on me.”
"It must be a pretty picture, you dropping to your knees.”
"Why does she keep interrupting everybody?"
“I bet you make a great wife."
"We're all a little chubby but Rosie's just worse than most of us. But it's not the chubbiness — Rosie is a very unattractive person, both inside and out."
"Rosie's a person who's very lucky to have her girlfriend. And she better be careful or I'll send one of my friends over to pick up her girlfriend, why would she stay with Rosie if she had another choice?"
“A person who is flat-chested is very hard to be a 10.”
"Her a** is too fat."
"Well, you never get to the face because the body's so good."
"How do the breasts look?"
"And the girls—we're supposed to call them women, but they're girls to me .”
“I find women to be much more aggressive than men. In fact, many of the people that are in my company and that I hire are women. I find women to be far more aggressive—and, sexually, far more aggressive—than men. ”
"You have to treat 'em like shit."

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19 years ago....August 31...where were you? I was at Atlantic Beach, NC. I'll remember the moment I heard of her death just as I will remember JFK's.



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OemqVWi_R0k





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Quote from shaggyoledog:
Colin Kaepernick...

Wrong place... Wrong time... Leave the flag out of it...

But what about the message?



Aside from the fact I think he has some misguided one-sided information, his “message” is no more than his opinion. To which I personally feel has no value because of the way he went about making his stand. I don’t think he REALLY thought this through nor did he get good advice if he expected this to make a difference to the cause. There are a number of sports professionals that use their millions to make a difference in impoverished area’s and do so in amazing ways. As you said “Wrong place... Wrong time... Leave the flag out of it.”

Psychologically speaking ………. I’m always interested in what “motivates” one to do the things they do and I think there are deeper issues going on with him personally. That’s why I said “his stand” instead of “a stand”. I think the waters got muddy between the cause and his motivation behind his actions that lead him to make a poor decision.



Kind of reminds me of my teenage grandchildren when I hear them make a comment or "stand" on something and I know they don't yet have the experience, knowledge or maturity to view the big picture for themselves. I love'em to pieces and I do what I can to help them develop and think for themselves but they will have to find their own way.

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Quote from shezakeeper_2:
Aside from the fact I think he has some misguided one-sided information, his “message” is no more than his opinion. To which I personally feel has no value because of the way he went about making his stand. I don’t think he REALLY thought this through nor did he get good advice if he expected this to make a difference to the cause. There are a number of sports professionals that use their millions to make a difference in impoverished area’s and do so in amazing ways. As you said “Wrong place... Wrong time... Leave the flag out of it.”

Psychologically speaking ………. I’m always interested in what “motivates” one to do the things they do and I think there are deeper issues going on with him personally. That’s why I said “his stand” instead of “a stand”. I think the waters got muddy between the cause and his motivation behind his actions that lead him to make a poor decision.



Kind of reminds me of my teenage grandchildren when I hear them make a comment or "stand" on something and I know they don't yet have the experience, knowledge or maturity to view the big picture for themselves. I love'em to pieces and I do what I can to help them develop and think for themselves but they will have to find their own way.






Did you read the third verse of the Star Spangled Banner/National Anthem, as I suggested???

Are you saying Martin Luther King's message is wrong? Kap's message, tho fumbled a bit, is much the same. I'm surprised you, of all people, can't see that.





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Quote from shaggyoledog:
Did you read the third verse of the Star Spangled Banner/National Anthem, as I suggested???

Are you saying Martin Luther King's message is wrong? Kap's message, tho fumbled a bit, is much the same. I'm surprised you, of all people, can't see that.



Back-up ...... I never saw where you suggested to read the third verse. Now that I have, what is your point in reference to Kep's actions?

**
And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country, should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
**

You ask what was thoughts of his "message" and that is actually a wide speculation as one sees it. What is your perspective of Kep "message"?

Don't call me out if we aren't on the same page.

Why would you say that my comment had anything to do with MLK?



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Quote from shezakeeper_2:
Back-up ...... I never saw where you suggested to read the third verse. Now that I have, what is your point in reference to Kep's actions?

**
And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country, should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
**

You ask what was thoughts of his "message" and that is actually a wide speculation as one sees it. What is your perspective of Kep "message"?

Don't call me out if we aren't on the same page.

Why would you say that my comment had anything to do with MLK?





Ah, butt it is YOU, whom fer one, quoted ME an there by callded ME out...



If you can't see the meaning, I can't help you...





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shezakeeper_2
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~ You see me as calling you out if I quote you? Had no idea you took it that way because I don't mean it in that manner. But thinking back to the way some people are in the threads I see where you would think that. I only quote because I like to keep the conv straight as to what I'm replying to. No other reason than that. Not everyone is out to make one look bad in threads.

...... No answers to what I ask ...... ..... ok ..... dropped.

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Now friends... Please put you misunderstanding aside and let's ponder:

Why did Trump do to Mexico?

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Flip Floppin' a tween channels, I watched the biggess flip flopper of all, donny dump, expectin' some sorta revelation, witch never happin'd...


So, what's new???





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No matter how much you push the envelope it's still stationery.

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Quote from cupocheer:
Now friends... Please put you misunderstanding aside and let's ponder:

Why did Trump do to Mexico?


Damn fool is choking on the foot he always has in his mouth. I think he could do much better but he's not living up to his potential.

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I ponder whether the American educational system collapsed only in certain sectors of the country.

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Colin Kaepernik's message...






QUOTE:...... No answers to what I ask ...... ..... ok ..... dropped.




Exactly what should not happen... So, don't drop it...

Black lives were brought to this country in servitude... The National Anthem refers to that... Black lives matter... Bad cops are killing black people and receive paid leave while going through the process... Most usually found to be a justifiable shooting by whom? The Chief of police...

Guns don't kill, but crazy people do... Cops don't kill, but (whatever fits here) cops do...

Crazy cops? Insufficiently trained cops? Lack of proper psychologically screened applicants?

I wanna be a cop... Here's a badge anna gun... Git out there...

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Colin Kaepernik will soon be blackballed for his message of Black Lives Matter...

The same Colin Kaepernik who was NFL runner up Rookie of the Year... The same Colin Kaepernik who was the 49ers QB in Super Bowl XLVII...

Tim Tebow was blackballed for his message... Thanking GOD... below...





The same Tim Tebow who won the most prestigious award in college football, the Heisman Trophy... The same Tim Tebow who, in his rookie years, lead the Denver Broncos to the NFL playoffs... then cut from the team...






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Former Stanford University swimmer Brock Turner is scheduled for early release from jail Friday TODAY, after serving ONLY three months of a six-month sentence for sexually assaulting an unconscious woman.



What's the message here??? ^^^^





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How much the insurance companies are going to 'whine' about payouts for northwest Florida after this MINOR (just barely a Cat one) blow. First, from multiple sources, in over ten years, with a Florida landfall. Hmmm?

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I'm pondering -- what the hen did shell say!?!

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This does sound a little ugly, but I ponder with Betty...



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Whom was thee firss President ta use email???















Clinton...

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From another thread:

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I think it's all a bunch of BS.. They all say what they think we want to hear to get our vote and the people who continually post the misleading post's to promote their favorite candidate are just bored people with nothing better to do..







^^^^^ Well, I see your old a** must be bored and have nothing better to do than talk politics and gossip. Oh, you, also, managed to post in a fascinating word game or two. Hypocrite.

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Just wondering how much more the NWS is going to distort this departing storm. From two broadcast positions (8 am and noon) this mess moved ENE almost fifty miles - in four hours - hardly the reported speed of six. Continuing to move offshore, so any winds along the Jersey shore will also be that - offshore, bringing virtually NO surge.

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And NOW... The SFPD do NOT want to police 49er games...




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Quote from maggievalleymtn:





This guy's a fookin' IDIOT!!!





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maggievalleymtn
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^^^ Agree!!!



What the Republicans don't want you to understand...







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I ponder my departure no more...



Buh buy...

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maggievalleymtn
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Folks who say you can't trust the Internet to research and fact check are just too lazy to do it. Lawyers and detectives rely on it (among other sources) every day. Hopefully you have the good sense to use more than one source on the Internet and have a half brain to comprehend the info...throw out the bad and keep the good and triple check the good facts...critical thinking.... Most of us don't take the last step for just DH if we have an excellent source, but hey, before you criticize the Internet...you might want to do it.



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donny dump called out Obama, fer not follerin' what his (Obama's) advisors had suggested...


^^^ Information donny got from security briefin'...


This donny dump guy's a freakin' idiot!!!


I didn't think it possible to find some one dummer en bush, butt here ya go wannabes...


Ya got'cher very own dummy again...






9/8/2016 6:11:29 PM Things I ponder | Page 35  
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Habatchi

9/9/2016 7:47:43 AM Things I ponder | Page 35  
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donny dump took a general an chris with him ta his security briefin'...

Word on the street is... thet general kept pushin' an pushin' fer more information, till...

chris tole him ta shut up...

If'n alla what goes on in them briefin's is s'posed ta be securitalized...

HOW did thet leak???






9/9/2016 1:01:26 PM Things I ponder | Page 35  
cupocheer
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I was pondering this:

A male child is born and grows into adulthood...

Comes to the realization that life might have been better for him had he been born a female...

He has a sex change operation and completes the transition process to be a woman...

Is he still gay?

9/10/2016 8:25:02 AM Things I ponder | Page 35  
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ivanka trump says...

find what'cher passionate about and follow it...


Notice how all trumps kids follow him around all the time???

Must be passionate about his money, huh?





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George H Bush after throwing up on the Prime Minister of Japan during his Presidency...stuff happens...



9/12/2016 9:36:48 AM Things I ponder | Page 35  
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Quote from maggievalleymtn:
George H Bush after throwing up on the Prime Minister of Japan during his Presidency...stuff happens...





Looks like mrs. george is tryin' ta chloroform him...





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Why cup does not fall & break

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If in was out what would be in?

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Killing

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shaggyoledog
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I ponder MORE fisticuffs atta donny dump rally... donny dump's deplorable, whom started the fracas, got ta stay ann three others were tossed out...



whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?




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shezakeeper_2
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Sitting for the National Anthem in AMERICAN sports.

I honestly do NOT understand why the NFL (or any league) allows them to get away with it? If they do not want to stand then stay in the locker room till afterwards. If you do it on the field then pay a fine.

I worked for a company and when things were getting heated with the last two presidential elections there was a memo that came out that ask (advised) for employees to reframe form political debates from the work place. You can have your differences but there is a time and a place and work is not the place. It kind of falls into the category of making a hostile environment that won't be tolerated.

No different than any other company that has ethical and moral code of standards and if you do not abide by the company standards you can work for someone else. No problem.

Guess I just wanted to get that off my chest.



9/13/2016 11:48:17 AM Things I ponder | Page 35  
cupocheer
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Sheza ~~ I understand your statement and concern perfectly.

I worked 32 years in conditions where it was standard policy and procedure that any member of the organization signed a waiver of hiring date that precluded them from any political activity during the hours of actual employment. 'Acting under the color of office' IN political matters, among others, was grounds for immediate termination without due process. [There are some positions, elected officials (never appointees) for which this p&p is waived, but only during declaration to seek office until election's end.]

You are speaking, basically, about apples and oranges.

History has been rift with opposing views about one's government.

In America the US Constitution guarantees all Americans the rights and freedoms to speech (verbal or non-verbal) and expression. To protest, or not, or to exert one's constitutional rights is at the sole discretion of the individual.

The US Constitution guarantees peaceful assembly -- which means one may protest anything they have adverse feelings about.

Burning of draft cards, the US flag and protest marches against the government are permissible under the Constitution.

To segregate or separate an individual(s) from rights and liberties guaranteed by the Constitution are Un-Cinstitutional.

Your right to post your written dissent or affirmation of this webpage is covered by the US Constitution as long as your Constitutional rights don't infringe upon another's Constitutional rights.

To be "seated" during the National Anthem is not a law. It is a privilege to honor the flag (country) by standing, but it is just as right for the dissenter to remain seated.

Your opinion (and or dissatisfaction) does not overrule the protesters Constitutional right in this matter.

Sorry for the wordiness but it couldn't be explained correctly with fewer words.

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shezakeeper_2
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Thanks Cup .. and I'm fine with the wordiness. It just burns my butt the disrespect for those that gave them the right to have those privileges. Those that died defending those rights are of all colors. I can normally walk away from people like that when it comes to me but when it comes to others it can be tougher.

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Yer still not graspin' the message...

IF... let's juss say, IF... Kap is dissentin'... WHAT is Kap dissentin'???





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cupocheer
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Quote from shezakeeper_2:
Thanks Cup .. and I'm fine with the wordiness. It just burns my butt the disrespect for those that gave them the right to have those privileges. Those that died defending those rights are of all colors. I can normally walk away from people like that when it comes to me but when it comes to others it can be tougher.


Pardon me, Sheza, but this does have me pondering.

Didn't the same diverse group of persons fight and die for the rights and privileges of ALL Americans -- regardless of race, color, creed, national origin, or religious affiliation?

If my comment is correct then your comment verges on "subtle racism". Did you realize that?

This dilemma is concerning what? (2 black/1?) NFL players not standing for the National Anthem. I might inquire: So what? No one is obliged to stand during the NA -- so is the issue really not about standing but because the player(s) are black? Pure racism!

Look at the NFL -- if a white player protested in this same manner would everyone (mostly Caucasian) still be in such an uproar? I don't believe so. Another indication of racism.

The NFL is comprised of:

4.3% people of color
27.7% caucasian
68.0% African-American

With today's hoopla over police brutality and the BLM protests, which ethnic group that I just listed is more apt to exercise their Constitutional right to protest governmental displeasure in this type situation?

It's called, legally, "using a reasonable person standard", Sheza.

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BINGO!!!



QUOTE... sorta...



'With today's police brutality, black lives matter', blue lives matter... AND NOTHING being done about it...

If Kap said, while sitting at his locker, during an interview, what he's saying with his actions on the field as the WORLD looks on... Would sitting at his locker have gotten the same attention???

And I did say... right message... wrong venue, but I'm not the one doing it... However the numbers are growing in Kap's favor... Because they get it...

Kap's 'message', started when the first black person was put in irons and brought to 'OUR' shores... These same shores 'WE' stole from the Indians...

Having been in the grocery industry dealing with the public, I saw first hand police brutality... I understand Kap's message...

It is what it is, although it doesn't need to be, and everyone has a right to their opinion... With liberty and justice for all, but Kap doesn't see it that way...

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I'm pondering a comment I just read in the political thread...
and directed to no one in particular....





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I can just see some of you Beer-bellied lumber heads standing up in your living rooms while it is being sung by someone on live TV before your NFL football games on Sunday.

If you don't, that's OK! But, if you don't you may want to just STFU!





Really, think about all the people in the sports bars with giant tv screens....do they stand for the National Athem or sit there and complain about the players kneeling...



[Edited 9/13/2016 1:59:59 PM ]

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You ask me: Didn't the same diverse group of persons fight and die for the rights and privileges of ALL Americans -- regardless of race, color, creed, national origin, or religious affiliation? Yea, that’s what I thought I said. Maybe my wording isn’t as clear, but that is what I meant.

Anyone can exercise their rights. What I don’t like is the disrespect for those that died defending those rights. I never said anything about color.

But let me say this ………. Or ponder this ……..

A Mom …. at a game stands with others to honor those that have fought for our freedom and she herself has sat at a graveside, holding the American flag her son/daughter so proudly served and died defending, she hears the 21 gun salute, 3 rounds of 7 that make her jump each time no matter how hard she trys not to, the lonely sound of taps where you could hear a pin drop in the grass.
Or the son or daughter while at a game where others are sitting and talking during the anthem and they no longer have their parent.

Explain to me how NOT honoring of the fallen is a just way to address the ANY issue?

I am not ignorant to the fact there has been injustices done and yes changes need to be made but this is NOT the way to go about it.



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shaggyoledog
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QUOTE...

Explain to me how NOT honoring of the fallen is a just way to address the ANY issue?






Explain how NOT honoring the fallen black lives is just, without ANY corrective addressing THAT issue...

That's every bit as dishonorable as not standing during the National anthem...


Answer me this... I've noticed for a long while now... Football players wear scull caps under their helmets... They remove their helmets, but they've never removed the scull caps during the National Anthem... Why haven't people been up in arms about that???





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Shaggy, The way I see it, disrespecting our military heroes is completely different than the BLM movement.

They are two separate issues, even though Colin used that tool to be heard. He should have done something else instead of spitting in the faces of those that died so he could be stupid.

As far as the scull caps, heck if I know but I see it more as a hairnet thing but not a rabbit trail I care to spend time on.

Shaggy ....... Just wondering were you military, your fathers, your grandfather, son(s), uncles??



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(quote from Sheza)

"A Mom …. at a game stands with others to honor those that have fought for our freedom and she herself has sat at a graveside, holding the American flag her son/daughter so proudly served and died defending, she hears the 21 gun salute, 3 rounds of 7 that make her jump each time no matter how hard she trys not to, the lonely sound of taps where you could hear a pin drop in the grass.
Or the son or daughter while at a game where others are sitting and talking during the anthem and they no longer have their parent.

Explain to me how NOT honoring of the fallen is a just way to address the ANY issue?"

^ This

Explain how one feels who has experienced this in real life, Sheza. Either as a wife, husband, mother, father, child, please.

I'd like to hear your personal reaction of grief in this type scenario.

You respond, dear, and then I'll respond how it really feels. Deal?

This emotion-type post to attempt to get an 'upper hand' on someone or gloat on a got'cha moment is deplorable for adults to participate in order to create a 'racial' conflict. (and, yes, that is what you are attempting to do)

This silliness reminds me of a thread several years ago about the 9-11 attack on America. Because one female poster thought shite didn't stick and that she was always correct the ridiculed another female poster for her personal opinion and blocked her as a child would turn up it's nose to spinach. This reactionary type posting is an attempt for distraction and attention. Shame on the concept and the person utilizing it.

And I have no answer for your question posed to Shaggy, Sheza, but I can reply on my own accord -- YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES.. YES ad infinitum. My family members, male and female, have served the US military since before the birth of this country. What's your point?

And the "beanie on skullcap" under the helmet is to protect from heat generated through the helmet onto the head (a danger to the brain during sports participation) and it controls perspiration from running into the players eyes.

Such trivial BS you all pull out of the thin air to bicker about. (No, She's, 'trivial'does not refer to grief scenarios.)

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Wonder if he knows anybody who won a major Federal discrimination lawsuit on grounds of medical discrimination?