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6/27/2015 1:59:51 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

naprinciple
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46, joined Feb. 2014


Quote from tragicparrot:
Unlike some "truthers" who cited a conspiracy even BEFORE the investigations began, I certainly did hold the government to the same standard or burden of proof as anyone else. Something I find most truthers seem to have trouble with. As for whatever it is about the official report that doesn't make sense, please post it instead of beating around the bush with all the short quips.

BTW, Louie doesn't know what "pull it" means.




I don't believe the Pentagon could be hit by a plane without being caught on film, from dozens of angles.


I don't believe releasing NIST's modeling data would endanger public safety.


I don't believe terrorists would make a 270 degree corkscrew turn, avoiding the top brass, but hitting the wing where accountants were auditing DOD malfeasance.


I don't believe that 911 and the PNAC report to be coincidental.


I don't believe terrorists were capable of avoiding fighter jet interceptors without inside help.


I don't believe a plane crashed in Shanksville, shot down is more likely.


I don't believe cell calls were made from planes at cruising altitude.





None of these make sense when you think Arabs did it, but make perfect sense if you're willing to suspect our rulers.

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srv63
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Quote from higgy51:
So you never actually heard him say it, you heard it along with the rest of us, from the TV or YouTube.


No research? I will debate you on any subject in connection with 9/11. If you have a logical mind (highly doubtful considering you appear to be a Conspiracy Theorist) you will understand that 99% of CT claims have been debunked.

Go on Louie, give me your best shot.


Higgy, out of all three of you stooges, i thought that you might be the only one with half a brain tho your actions still showed you to be a paid shill.No matter what kind of compelling evidence us truthers come up with that would clearly put your gooberments official story to shame making their version of events impossible, you stooges will back their official story no matter how retarded it makes you therefore i feel like i don't have to prove you idiots wrong because it would be no different than debating with a sack of rocks because that IS the degree of your intelligence.As far as your claim that us truthers being debunked 99%, your a deceitful LIAR . The success rate of debunking the truthers is really about 10% so you and your clown stooges are in fantasy land thinking 99%

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higgy51
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61, joined Nov. 2012


Quote from srv63:
Higgy, out of all three of you stooges, i thought that you might be the only one with half a brain tho your actions still showed you to be a paid shill.No matter what kind of compelling evidence us truthers come up with that would clearly put your gooberments official story to shame making their version of events impossible, you stooges will back their official story no matter how retarded it makes you therefore i feel like i don't have to prove you idiots wrong because it would be no different than debating with a sack of rocks because that IS the degree of your intelligence.As far as your claim that us truthers being debunked 99%, your a deceitful LIAR . The success rate of debunking the truthers is really about 10% so you and your clown stooges are in fantasy land thinking 99%


Oh dear SRV, I really thought you would have learned by now that you have been debunked over and over again, if not by evidence, but also by natural logic.

Engine at Murray Street: You got the wrong engine, the wrong plane and after quite a few pages, you said it was a TYPO. You even said it was a PW engine...thatb is hardly a typo.

Taxi Drivers wife: yes, you got that wrong t5oo didn't you? She was IN the FBI you strongly maintained, but then, give you your due respect, you did then think in a logical manner and admitted she was a cleaner.

Light |Poles: You have NO idea how they got bent and you don't care how they got bent, they were still "blown down by explosives" - but cannot explain how they were bent at the top. That is very good logical train of thought isn't it?

The EXISTING gash: Debunked there weren't you? The old one went N to S as you look and the new one W to E sort of directions...even the road and the woods told you that.

Engine Location on Murray Street: Yes, your source was found out to be a little embarrassing wasn't it? He had the wrong geographical evidence didn't he?

So please srv, please do enlighten me as to what compelling evidence have you ACTUALLY produced?

Secondly; just how do they pay me and what proof do you have?

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higgy51
Over 2,000 Posts (3,113)
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61, joined Nov. 2012


Quote from srv63:
The success rate of debunking the truthers is really about 10% so you and your clown stooges are in fantasy land thinking 99%


Oh good, so YOU DO ADMIT that you have been debunked...you so called Truthers HAVE BEEN DEBUNKED.

Good, that shows the other 90% hasn't been debunked, so what have we yet to debunk srv?


Care to expand just what we do need to debunk yet ...YET?

Please feel free to make a list of claims that you say we have not debunked or have not been debunked...let us see this list of yours.

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Gosh I wish I could find the video of the Naudet film which was a fake as they filmed the explosion of the north tower, then went to the lab and added an image of a fake plane to make us think a plane crashed into the North tower.

The video is no longer available [ or I cant find it ] where the Naudet film has a black bird or a black ball in it which was added to cover up the missile trail or vapor trail left by the missile that was fired into the north tower. I should have copied and pasted it years ago.

The only reason I can think of for the Naudet film to add a black bird or black ball to their video would be to cover up something that they don't want people to see. The most sensible would be the vapor trail left by the missile that was fired into the north tower. No need to comment from the 3 kiddies--this message was posted for the truth seekers.

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louie6332
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Tragicparrot, you say: “BTW, Louie doesn't know what "pull it" means.” Well, Tragic, the professional demolition guy, who had to have been standing by, knew very well what it meant, because as soon as the order was given, and it was an order, the building came crumbling down in free fall onto its own footprint into a pile of dust and rubble, just like the other two buildings did. (And fire chiefs are not qualified or authorized to demolish buildings, they have to bring in qualified professional people for that).

And keep in mind Tragic and Higgy, that the explosives have to have been ALREADY preplaced and ready to go well before the events of 9-11. And the reason for destroying the building was to destroy sensitive documents stored in the building. Don’t you see that this was all preplanned well ahead of time, and that the US government itself had to have been involved?

Face it three kitties, you have lost this argument, you've been blown out of the water. Now it’s time to man up and admit that you were wrong. There is no shame in that. People sometime exhibit poor judgment. But there IS shame in adhering stubbornly to lies in the face of the facts.

Louie

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tragicparrot
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Quote from louie6332:
Tragicparrot, you say: “BTW, Louie doesn't know what "pull it" means.” Well, Tragic, the professional demolition guy, who had to have been standing by, knew very well what it meant, because as soon as the order was given, and it was an order, the building came crumbling down in free fall onto its own footprint into a pile of dust and rubble, just like the other two buildings did. (And fire chiefs are not qualified or authorized to demolish buildings, they have to bring in qualified professional people for that).

And keep in mind Tragic and Higgy, that the explosives have to have been ALREADY preplaced and ready to go well before the events of 9-11. And the reason for destroying the building was to destroy sensitive documents stored in the building. Don’t you see that this was all preplanned well ahead of time, and that the US government itself had to have been involved?

Face it three kitties, you have lost this argument, you've been blown out of the water. Now it’s time to man up and admit that you were wrong. There is no shame in that. People sometime exhibit poor judgment. But there IS shame in adhering stubbornly to lies in the face of the facts.

Louie


I'm not sure where you sourced this from, but here's one from truthers favorite "Alex

Jones Infowars". http://www.infowars.com/print/Sept11/FDNY.htm

Didn’t they “Pull” WTC building 6 with explosives? Alex Jones says they did, on the Infowars.com page that’s linked above:

"We know that the term 'pull it' means to bring the building down by means of explosives
because in the same documentary (America Rebuilds) a cleanup worker (in December
2001) refers to the demolition of WTC Building 6 when he says, "...we're getting ready to pull building six."

His audience is then directed to this > http://www.prisonplanet.com/pullit2.mp3

Yes, that worker certainly does say they’re getting ready to “pull” building six. Then we have a quote from Luis Mendes, from the NYC Department of Design and Construction:

“We had to be very careful about how we demolished building 6. We were worried about building 6 coming down and damaging the slurry walls, so we wanted that particular building to fall within a certain area.”

Interesting. They needed to be sure that building 6 came down in a “controlled” way. But wait a second: the video clip that Alex Jones presents – the clip that’s shown on all the conspiracist websites –ends abruptly at this point. Huh? Where’s the money shot? Why’d they cut it there? Because the following scene shows how building 6 was “pulled”: with cables attached to the hydraulic arms of four excavators, not with explosive charges.

For your convenience Louie, you can find the source of this information here...

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=18&id=86

Scroll down to page 32.

As for some of the other question i.e., why no Pentagon plane videos (due to video speed) or NIST denies access to modeling data (A guess would be that the information contains weaknesses in existing structures making future terror attacks easier should they receive the information) etc, you'll just have to wait as my current priorities are not set to repeatedly go over the same ole BS.

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tragicparrot
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Once again fella's, here's the link...

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=18&id=86

Its easy. Just copy, paste, and pour over it just like you do any other "truther" website.

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srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,023)
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from naprinciple:
I don't believe the Pentagon could be hit by a plane without being caught on film, from dozens of angles.


I don't believe releasing NIST's modeling data would endanger public safety.


I don't believe terrorists would make a 270 degree corkscrew turn, avoiding the top brass, but hitting the wing where accountants were auditing DOD malfeasance.


I don't believe that 911 and the PNAC report to be coincidental.


I don't believe terrorists were capable of avoiding fighter jet interceptors without inside help.


I don't believe a plane crashed in Shanksville, shot down is more likely.


I don't believe cell calls were made from planes at cruising altitude.





None of these make sense when you think Arabs did it, but make perfect sense if you're willing to suspect our rulers.


You forgot just a few more points na that don't make a damn bit of sense.

1)How did office fires in wtc7 cause the lobby of wtc7 to explode? How did office fires in wtc7 cause the stairway on floor 6 to explode causing the eyewitness to almost lose his life but he still ends up losing his life ONE DAY before giving his testimony to the bullshit committee supposedly investigating the 9/11 murders.How did tiny office fires cause wtc7 to fall EXACTLY as if it was controlled demolition?

2)Eyewitness accounts by FIREMEN of molten metal flowing out of the twin towers. Wouldn't a fireman know the difference between MOLTEN METAL and ELECTRICAL SPARKS? Molten steel was witnessed from cleanup crews weeks after the towers collapsed, a first in history. Passenger jets hit the trade towers but yet there is a piece of TIN FUSELAGE to a military plane on top of wtc5. Both boeings that hit twin towers were 767,s but yet the engine found on Murray St. is clearly from a 747.Impact area on south trade tower is so inferno hot that it is weakening steel beams supporting the building but yet there is a photo of two women waiting on rescue.Just our imagination?

3)The dictators in government proved they can't be trusted because NIST and NORAD info IS NOT consistent with eyewitnesses accounts.One hour of hell breaks loose crashing 4 jetliners and NOT ONE fighter jet to intervene because they ALL are sent over the ocean on training drills? By coincidence, the jew leasing out the twin tower complex adds extra insurance coverage which would include hijacked airplanes 6 months before 9/11 and because of that, his 12 million dollar initial investment turns into 7 BILLION. Maybe just psychic? The same jew in an interview says that he and the authorities decided that wtc7 was too dangerous to leave standing so THEY decided to "PULL IT". The mayor of New York had a emergency disaster control room in wtc7 but he NOT ONCE went to it.Possibly psychic? George Retard Bush first finds out about first plane hitting the north tower and the retard just sits there in that classroom without going to nearest bunker. Secret service doesn't even try forcing him into finding safe shelter.Maybe the retard is psychic as well? Government positively identified 19 hijackers within days after 9/11 but then atleast 6 were PROVEN alive and well in saudi arabia a year later.

4)The securest place ON EARTH (the pentagon) is crashed into by a huge commercial airliner (by a pilot that could barely fly a cessna airplane)leaving a small hole not even big enough for the fuselage but yet no engines, no bodies or luggage and no wings are left outside on the pentagon lawn.He's able to penetrate the building at a 45% angle without bouncing off and leaving the vast majority of the plane scattered all over the pentagon lawn AND he's able to do it without a wingtip,jet engine or the belly of the fuselage even touching the pentagon lawn. Enough cameras on the property and NOT ONE can show a plane hitting the pentagon.Downed light poles with evidence of being cut down and light pole maintenance head kills himself leaving his 4 kids.Cab driver indirectly says pole on his cab was staged and pentagon was staged by the rich.Flight path of plane hitting pentagon contradicts credible eyewitness testimony.

5)Shanksville flight 93 is taken over by 5 hijackers with boxcutters (rediculous) and the rest, god knows i don't want to get started because this one is the biggest f**kin joke of all but i think the reader gets an idea. These are only SOME of the inconsistencies and there are a hell of allot more

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srv63
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Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from higgy51:
Oh dear SRV, I really thought you would have learned by now that you have been debunked over and over again, if not by evidence, but also by natural logic.

Engine at Murray Street: You got the wrong engine, the wrong plane and after quite a few pages, you said it was a TYPO. You even said it was a PW engine...thatb is hardly a typo.

Taxi Drivers wife: yes, you got that wrong t5oo didn't you? She was IN the FBI you strongly maintained, but then, give you your due respect, you did then think in a logical manner and admitted she was a cleaner.

Light |Poles: You have NO idea how they got bent and you don't care how they got bent, they were still "blown down by explosives" - but cannot explain how they were bent at the top. That is very good logical train of thought isn't it?

The EXISTING gash: Debunked there weren't you? The old one went N to S as you look and the new one W to E sort of directions...even the road and the woods told you that.

Engine Location on Murray Street: Yes, your source was found out to be a little embarrassing wasn't it? He had the wrong geographical evidence didn't he?

So please srv, please do enlighten me as to what compelling evidence have you ACTUALLY produced?

Secondly; just how do they pay me and what proof do you have?


To the paid shill:

As far as your pathetic claims of debunking me, let's see proof. As far as getting the Murray street planted engine wrong, again let's see the proof because your a sneaky pathetic LIAR.NOT ONCE DID I SAY the planted engine on Murray St. was a PW engine so again, let's see the proof LIAR. As far as me getting the plane wrong that the planted engine was supposed to belong to, YOU SLIMEBALL are the one that planted that bullshit but i didn't catch it until a few posts later then CORRECTED myself so f**k you deceitful piece of shit. I and I alone fully identified that planted engine and all four of the supposed hijacked planes so again F**K OFF. You know why you can't find any photos showing the gash in the earth in shanksville from 1994 and the new one supposedly caused by flight 93 dumbf**k, because there are NOT two of them and if i'm wrong, prove me wrong b*tch. As far as the cab drivers wife not being part of fbi, i just gave that one to you because she sounds too simple minded to have a somewhat complex job so again dumbass, prove she's a cleaner because i found out she's NOT part of the janitorial crew. Do you want proof? Look for it b*tch just like i did.I hope your kids ,kids pay for your deceit because you deserve it ya piece of shit.

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srv63
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Baytown, TX
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Quote from higgy51:
Oh good, so YOU DO ADMIT that you have been debunked...you so called Truthers HAVE BEEN DEBUNKED.

Good, that shows the other 90% hasn't been debunked, so what have we yet to debunk srv?


Care to expand just what we do need to debunk yet ...YET?

Please feel free to make a list of claims that you say we have not debunked or have not been debunked...let us see this list of yours.


The 10% that got debunked , i was in no way referring to the truthers on this dating site because you shills have not debunked a single thing, NOT ONE. As far as you needing something else to debunk, explain the rusted fuselage from a military aircraft on the roof of wtc5 GENIUS

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srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,023)
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


At parrot,

As far as your comment of:

"As for some of the other question i.e., why no Pentagon plane videos (due to video speed) or NIST denies access to modeling data (A guess would be that the information contains weaknesses in existing structures making future terror attacks easier should they receive the information) etc, you'll just have to wait as my current priorities are not set to repeatedly go over the same ole BS."

Even you payed shills know damn well that any NORAD, NIST intel as well as any photos the gooberment refuses to share with us is just more evidence PROVING they are lying scumbags and the WHOLE WORLD knows it. I hope you shills kids futures are brighter than yours

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tragicparrot
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Painesville, OH
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Quote from srv63:
At parrot,

As far as your comment of:

"As for some of the other question i.e., why no Pentagon plane videos (due to video speed) or NIST denies access to modeling data (A guess would be that the information contains weaknesses in existing structures making future terror attacks easier should they receive the information) etc, you'll just have to wait as my current priorities are not set to repeatedly go over the same ole BS."

Even you payed shills know damn well that any NORAD, NIST intel as well as any photos the gooberment refuses to share with us is just more evidence PROVING they are lying scumbags and the WHOLE WORLD knows it. I hope you shills kids futures are brighter than yours


As if there wasn't enough photo or video evidence already. (which truthers love to manipulate). I take it my last post bothered you a bit?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=18&id=86

And in a much earlier post I offered the Italian blog "11 Settembre" (nothing to do with the US gooberment)

http://11-settembre.blogspot.com/2007/04/english-section.html

You know, I see two things in the original post. A penchant for conspiracy theories, and the assumption that Israel is benefiting from this war. We should have learned by now that it is very difficult to direct the future. From all available evidence, Osama bin Laden did the deed, and whatever unfolds from here on is everyone's best guess.

Now its your turn srv63 to show evidence that me or anyone here has been posting as a "gooberment paid shill". I mean, if you've got all the answers surrounding 911, you should have no problem posting that.

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higgy51
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Navarro, CA
61, joined Nov. 2012


Quote from srv63:
To the paid shill:

As far as your pathetic claims of debunking me, let's see proof. As far as getting the Murray street planted engine wrong, again let's see the proof because your a sneaky pathetic LIAR.NOT ONCE DID I SAY the planted engine on Murray St. was a PW engine so again, let's see the proof LIAR. As far as me getting the plane wrong that the planted engine was supposed to belong to, YOU SLIMEBALL are the one that planted that bullshit but i didn't catch it until a few posts later then CORRECTED myself so f**k you deceitful piece of shit. I and I alone fully identified that planted engine and all four of the supposed hijacked planes so again F**K OFF. You know why you can't find any photos showing the gash in the earth in shanksville from 1994 and the new one supposedly caused by flight 93 dumbf**k, because there are NOT two of them and if i'm wrong, prove me wrong b*tch. As far as the cab drivers wife not being part of fbi, i just gave that one to you because she sounds too simple minded to have a somewhat complex job so again dumbass, prove she's a cleaner because i found out she's NOT part of the janitorial crew. Do you want proof? Look for it b*tch just like i did.I hope your kids ,kids pay for your deceit because you deserve it ya piece of shit.


Wow, MR ANGRY!!

Your post made me laugh so hard with all the immature name calling and even bringing my children into it, now that is lowest of the low.

So, MR ANGRY, what about this list?

I grant you MR ANGRY, the shanksville gash is not shown onn ONE photo, but then again, why should it be? Anyone with even a miniscule brain like yours will be able to understand by looking at the terrain, the road and the two gashes that they are different, but even YOU cannot seem to understand that.

Now MR ANGRY, the list of other stuff that needs debunking? the other 90%?

Oh, the taxi drivers wife is NOT part of the janitorial crew and you have the proof? Yes pelase, I would love to see your proof of this.

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higgy51
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Quote from srv63:
The 10% that got debunked , i was in no way referring to the truthers on this dating site because you shills have not debunked a single thing, NOT ONE. As far as you needing something else to debunk, explain the rusted fuselage from a military aircraft on the roof of wtc5 GENIUS


What was the make of the military aircraft Mr Angry?

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class5
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Australia
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Quote from srv63:
Only response i have for that is ummmmmmmmm YOU FAIL.Any moron even knows the difference between dust and rust so try again. IFyour able to come up with a reasonable explanation for the rust on that fuselage then i'm going to counter and i assure you, it will bury ya.


So, please present the data that shows it is actually rust and then we can move on. I call BS as it is just your opinion and we all know that isn't worth anything.

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class5
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Quote from srv63:
Guess what f**ktard, that RUST on that fuselage on the roof of wtc5 is RUST until you f**ktards prove otherwise or else your handlers prove to me it's not RUST. You f**kin morons, i have seen enough RUST in my life and KNOW DAMN WELL WHAT RUST LOOKS LIKE so until you prove otherwise, that shit on that fuselage is RUST!!!!! Try debunking me on that RUST then I WILL BURY YOUR ASSES!!!!!


You're unable to actually prove that the fuselage is rusting. You keep forgetting that step, so stop wasting my time and stalling.

Cut the evasive BS and get to it! I'm bored with your excuses.

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class5
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Quote from louie6332:
Class5, reference your posts, page 115 (this thread is exploding, I can’t keep up with it), you say to my statement: “and explosions were seen and heard in rapid sequence from the top floors to the bottom, you know, just like you see when a building is professionally demolished”: "Incorrect, and I've only heard that applied to 7WTC, but that is a massive subject which I've already posted a thread on."

No, I SAW explosions MYSELF in the videos, and HEARD them, and so did anyone with eyes to see. All three buildings were professionally demolished with explosives.


I don't care what you think you saw, the extant footage does not support your claim.

Class5, you say to my statement: “And the third building came crumbling down after its owner was heard giving the order “pull it”, which is trade language for “demolish it”. "False: Both are myths. Larry Silverstein had no authority to order the fire dept. to stop the operation. That contravenes protocol and allows the fire dept to be implicated in insurance fraud. Nope, that's a myth too."

Class5, I HEARD him say this myself. I’m a witness that that is what was said.


I didn't say he didn't say it! I'm saying he did not have the authority to influence the decisions of the fire fighters-that contravenes protocol. Furthermore, like many truthers, you don't seem to know what 'pull it' means.

Do you understand now?

The rest of your post was dishonest drivel unworthy of a response.



[Edited 6/28/2015 12:34:31 AM ]

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class5
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Quote from louie6332:
Tragicparrot, you say: “BTW, Louie doesn't know what "pull it" means.” Well, Tragic, the professional demolition guy, who had to have been standing by, knew very well what it meant, because as soon as the order was given, and it was an order, the building came crumbling down in free fall onto its own footprint into a pile of dust and rubble, just like the other two buildings did. (And fire chiefs are not qualified or authorized to demolish buildings, they have to bring in qualified professional people for that).


The Fire Dept. was aware of the state of the building well before the collapse. The building exhibited bulging and instability when they evacuated the area, and they subsequently ordered the evacuation. Silverstein was in no position to order the demolition of the building and the Fire Dept. did not order the demolition of the building-it collapsed (see the NIST report). Here's an interesting pdf that addresses much of the mythology surrounding 7WTC:

http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Lies.doc

And keep in mind Tragic and Higgy, that the explosives have to have been ALREADY preplaced and ready to go well before the events of 9-11. And the reason for destroying the building was to destroy sensitive documents stored in the building. Don’t you see that this was all preplanned well ahead of time, and that the US government itself had to have been involved?


Can you see the logic problem behind this scenario? It's a biggy! Psst! They didn't need to destroy a 47 storey building to get rid of some sensitive documents (if they existed).

Face it three kitties, you have lost this argument, you've been blown out of the water. Now it’s time to man up and admit that you were wrong. There is no shame in that. People sometime exhibit poor judgment. But there IS shame in adhering stubbornly to lies in the face of the facts.

Louie


No, actually, no evidence is being presented here by 9/11 truth, therefore it is 9/11 truth that is losing badly here. You, Fun, SRV, 57 and Jetson have only bothered to produce opinion. Not one of you has provided any content that did not originate from a lunatic site, and none of it has actually been 'factual'. You, yourself have offered nothing but vacuous posts and diatribes of no value.

Now has anyone been able to discredit the evidence I presented for UA175 earlier? I'm not interested in the musings and ravings of crazy old men. Just facts.



[Edited 6/28/2015 12:45:45 AM ]

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class5
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Cool! Gage's efforts to have the AIA endorse his stupidity has failed. The AIA know a con job when they see one.

Reason: 1

9/11 truth: 0

https://youtu.be/oH1268AXhmE



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Quote from higgy51:
Wow, MR ANGRY!!

Your post made me laugh so hard with all the immature name calling and even bringing my children into it, now that is lowest of the low.

So, MR ANGRY, what about this list?

I grant you MR ANGRY, the shanksville gash is not shown onn ONE photo, but then again, why should it be? Anyone with even a miniscule brain like yours will be able to understand by looking at the terrain, the road and the two gashes that they are different, but even YOU cannot seem to understand that.

Now MR ANGRY, the list of other stuff that needs debunking? the other 90%?

Oh, the taxi drivers wife is NOT part of the janitorial crew and you have the proof? Yes pelase, I would love to see your proof of this.


Lets see your proof that the taxi cab owners wife IS a cleaner. You have none huh loser? It must really suck being you

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Something in NYC is going to get bombed or hit with planes very soon. If you people would open your eyes you would have seen the planning going around all around you. It was even in the news in a roundabout way.

There will be attacks in NYC and most likely will be the new WTC, statue of liberty and Brooklyn bridge. Too bad no one knows for sure so they can try to stop it but it's going to happen.

You people are all part of the herd. It's too hard to figure out the truth or to even stomach it so you believe the US government is harmless and wouldn't hurt a soul. You're crazy fools

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And if you all did your homework you would find out that the cops and EMS were aware of the killings down in South Carolina last week about 20 minutes before they even happened. There has been proof of that put out on the internet.

Stop letting the government lead you around by your noses and stand up for your lives and the lives of people you love. This country is about to go down the toilet and more people need to open their eyes.

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Quote from srv63:
Lets see your proof that the taxi cab owners wife IS a cleaner. You have none huh loser? It must really suck being you


We have it on tape, twice that it was said his wife was a cleaner. It has been shown to you, twice.

However, you state you have PROOF that she wasn't, so go ahead and debunk me, if you can and have the balls.

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Quote from lookin4him2012:
And if you all did your homework you would find out that the cops and EMS were aware of the killings down in South Carolina last week about 20 minutes before they even happened. There has been proof of that put out on the internet.

.


And here we have yet another silly Conspiracy Theorist.

Link to this proof you have, go on dare you to post it.

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higgy51
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Quote from srv63:
As far as the cab drivers wife not being part of fbi, i just gave that one to you because she sounds too simple minded to have a somewhat complex job so again dumbass, prove she's a cleaner because i found out she's NOT part of the janitorial crew. Do you want proof? Look for it b*tch just like i did.


Come on srv, stop your usual dancing around and show this proof that she isn't a cleaner

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Quote from naprinciple:
I don't believe the Pentagon could be hit by a plane without being caught on film, from dozens of angles.


I don't believe releasing NIST's modeling data would endanger public safety.


I don't believe terrorists would make a 270 degree corkscrew turn, avoiding the top brass, but hitting the wing where accountants were auditing DOD malfeasance.


I don't believe that 911 and the PNAC report to be coincidental.


I don't believe terrorists were capable of avoiding fighter jet interceptors without inside help.


I don't believe a plane crashed in Shanksville, shot down is more likely.


I don't believe cell calls were made from planes at cruising altitude.

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Oh dear, it would seem this p*ssy has decided to block me, must have hurt him to hear he's a fool and is so wrong.

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Quote from naprinciple:
I don't believe the Pentagon could be hit by a plane without being caught on film, from dozens of angles.


So you choose to ignore reality. Cool.

I don't believe terrorists would make a 270 degree corkscrew turn, avoiding the top brass, but hitting the wing where accountants were auditing DOD malfeasance.


Because ignoring reality is always better than observing evidence.


I don't believe terrorists were capable of avoiding fighter jet interceptors without inside help.


Which jets did they avoid?

I don't believe a plane crashed in Shanksville, shot down is more likely.


So you're saying the government let the other jets hit their target but shot this one down to prevent it from hitting its target. That makes sense.

I don't believe cell calls were made from planes at cruising altitude.


Neither do the people who were called. Oh.... Wait.

None of these make sense when you think Arabs did it, but make perfect sense if you're willing to suspect our rulers.


Sure it makes sense.. If you are willing to overlook all evidence in favor of anti government bias then it makes all the sense in the world.

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higgy51
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Excellent post above, full of logic which, sadly, will be so wasted on the 4 CT Nutcases.

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Quote from progrocknic:
Sure it makes sense.. If you are willing to overlook all evidence in favor of anti government bias then it makes all the sense in the world.


All of these responses from a brain dead twit that has NO input of himself, just mere jibber jabber.

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srv63
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Quote from higgy51:
Excellent post above, full of logic which, sadly, will be so wasted on the 4 CT Nutcases.


A response from a gooberment paid shill towards a clueless twit with the brain capacity of a turnip

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srv63
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Quote from class5:
No, actually, no evidence is being presented here by 9/11 truth, therefore it is 9/11 truth that is losing badly here. You, Fun, SRV, 57 and Jetson have only bothered to produce opinion. Not one of you has provided any content that did not originate from a lunatic site, and none of it has actually been 'factual'. You, yourself have offered nothing but vacuous posts and diatribes of no value.

Now has anyone been able to discredit the evidence I presented for UA175 earlier? I'm not interested in the musings and ravings of crazy old men. Just facts.


As far as your UA175, i think i brought up a VERY GOOD subject worth debate on your rusting fuselage but i notice ALL of you shills are side stepping and running from it. Care to PROVE to me that it's NOT RUST on that fuselage or better yet, care to give me a better explanation of what it is on that fuselage besides RUST? Don't even waste our time here saying it's rust colored dust or fine debris again because that shit will not float. The proof is in the pudding boys

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Quote from srv63:
As far as your UA175, i think i brought up a VERY GOOD subject worth debate on your rusting fuselage but i notice ALL of you shills are side stepping and running from it. Care to PROVE to me that it's NOT RUST on that fuselage or better yet, care to give me a better explanation of what it is on that fuselage besides RUST? Don't even waste our time here saying it's rust colored dust or fine debris again because that shit will not float. The proof is in the pudding boys


No, it is not a good subject to debate, because even if it were rust, that doesn't mean it couldn't have came from the nearby watered down steel wreckage and/or the coatings used to fireproof or preserve various I-beams. Do you have some sort of analysis or evidence that proves the rust like material in question is in fact RUST? That might help move the discussion beyond your belligerence.

If you make a claim, you need to support it. So, if you have proof, please state it. I gather that you think that RUST is proof of an inside job. If that is the case, you might want to back your other claims up as well as a rust debate just doesn't cover it.

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Quote from tragicparrot:
Unlike some "truthers" who cited a conspiracy even BEFORE the investigations began, I certainly did hold the government to the same standard or burden of proof as anyone else. Something I find most truthers seem to have trouble with. As for whatever it is about the official report that doesn't make sense, please post it instead of beating around the bush with all the short quips.

BTW, Louie doesn't know what "pull it" means.





Why ask and then not respond to the answer?




Quote from naprinciple:
I don't believe the Pentagon could be hit by a plane without being caught on film, from dozens of angles.


I don't believe releasing NIST's modeling data would endanger public safety.


I don't believe terrorists would make a 270 degree corkscrew turn, avoiding the top brass, but hitting the wing where accountants were auditing DOD malfeasance.


I don't believe that 911 and the PNAC report to be coincidental.


I don't believe terrorists were capable of avoiding fighter jet interceptors without inside help.


I don't believe a plane crashed in Shanksville, shot down is more likely.


I don't believe cell calls were made from planes at cruising altitude.



None of these make sense when you think Arabs did it, but make perfect sense if you're willing to suspect our rulers.







Shill type behavior

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tragicparrot
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Quote from naprinciple:
Shill type behavior


Because basically all you did was state your beliefs (similar to making claims) without providing any evidence to back them up. That would be like me claiming or believing your related to Obama without a reasonable explanation (or evidence), then expecting you to accept only my word for it.

Besides, most of your "beliefs" had already been addressed.

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Quote from srv63:
All of these responses from a brain dead twit that has NO input of himself, just mere jibber jabber.


I can't understand you with your head that far up your own ass.

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Hey tragic

I don't believe the Pentagon could be hit by a plane without being caught on film, from dozens of angles.
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The Pentagon is probably the most guarded building on the planet, with surveillance cameras inside and outside all over [ or do you need to drive there and see it for yourself? ]

question: Now with all those camera's why don't we the people see the incoming plane [ Flight 77 ] in the air come crashing into the Pentagon over and over again like we see the alleged plane hit the south tower every anniversary of 9-11??

Ever ask yourself that question or you just take the words of the feds without asking any logical pertinent questions??

So....answer the simple question okydoky?

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So........what happens now with tragic's response to my question?????

He is searching in his little black book entitled " Debunking the truth about 9-11 " and he is busy reading what to say and how to mrespond or change the subject or whatever. Aye mate......he will say they already have a pic of some explosion with the wrong date on the pic.

THATS NOT WHAT IM ASKING " I WANT TO SEE ALL THE PICS OF FLIGHT 77 IN THE AIR HEADING TOWARDS THE PENTAGON ""

I WANT TO SEE ALL THE PICS OF FLIGHT 77 IN THE AIR HEADING TOWARDS THE PENTAGON ""

I WANT TO SEE ALL THE PICS OF FLIGHT 77 IN THE AIR HEADING TOWARDS THE PENTAGON ""

I WANT TO SEE ALL THE PICS OF FLIGHT 77 IN THE AIR HEADING TOWARDS THE PENTAGON ""

I WANT TO SEE ALL THE PICS OF FLIGHT 77 IN THE AIR HEADING TOWARDS THE PENTAGON ""

I WANT TO SEE ALL THE PICS OF FLIGHT 77 IN THE AIR HEADING TOWARDS THE PENTAGON ""

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tragicparrot
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Quote from 57channels:
So........what happens now with tragic's response to my question?????

He is searching in his little black book entitled " Debunking the truth about 9-11 " and he is busy reading what to say and how to mrespond or change the subject or whatever. Aye mate......he will say they already have a pic of some explosion with the wrong date on the pic.

THATS NOT WHAT IM ASKING " I WANT TO SEE ALL THE PICS OF FLIGHT 77 IN THE AIR HEADING TOWARDS THE PENTAGON ""

I WANT TO SEE ALL THE PICS OF FLIGHT 77 IN THE AIR HEADING TOWARDS THE PENTAGON ""

I WANT TO SEE ALL THE PICS OF FLIGHT 77 IN THE AIR HEADING TOWARDS THE PENTAGON ""

I WANT TO SEE ALL THE PICS OF FLIGHT 77 IN THE AIR HEADING TOWARDS THE PENTAGON ""

I WANT TO SEE ALL THE PICS OF FLIGHT 77 IN THE AIR HEADING TOWARDS THE PENTAGON ""

I WANT TO SEE ALL THE PICS OF FLIGHT 77 IN THE AIR HEADING TOWARDS THE PENTAGON ""


Again, this was already explained in an earlier post...

"A Pentagon spokesperson tells Popular Mechanics that the video was taken with a Philips LTC 1261 security camera and recorded at one frame per second. Jerry Housenga is a technical product specialist with Bosch Security Systems, which bought the Philips camera division in 2002. According to Housenga, it was {b]unrealistic to think that the low-quality security camera footage would reveal the crystal-clear image of a Boeing 757 traveling at 780 feet per second. While most advanced security and surveillance cameras can be set to capture real-time video, the attached recording systems are almost always set at signif­icantly slower frame rates in order to conserve storage space. As a result, it is unlikely that the recording system of any nearby security camera would be set at a rate high enough to capture the speeding plane with decent resolution."

Source...

http://11-settembre.blogspot.com/2007/02/why-dont-pentagon-videos-clearly-show.html

And your proof that it was a missile or other object that struck the Pentagon? 57channels?

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tragicparrot
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(57channels asks >question: Now with all those camera's why don't we the people see the incoming plane [ Flight 77 ] in the air come crashing into the Pentagon over and over again like we see the alleged plane hit the south tower every anniversary of 9-11??)

Answer. Because enough "we the people" witnesses were present when the plane hit.

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srv63
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Quote from progrocknic:
I can't understand you with your head that far up your own ass.


What are you like now, 9 years old?

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srv63
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Quote from tragicparrot:
Again, this was already explained in an earlier post...

"A Pentagon spokesperson tells Popular Mechanics that the video was taken with a Philips LTC 1261 security camera and recorded at one frame per second. Jerry Housenga is a technical product specialist with Bosch Security Systems, which bought the Philips camera division in 2002. According to Housenga, it was {b]unrealistic to think that the low-quality security camera footage would reveal the crystal-clear image of a Boeing 757 traveling at 780 feet per second. While most advanced security and surveillance cameras can be set to capture real-time video, the attached recording systems are almost always set at signif­icantly slower frame rates in order to conserve storage space. As a result, it is unlikely that the recording system of any nearby security camera would be set at a rate high enough to capture the speeding plane with decent resolution."

Source...

http://11-settembre.blogspot.com/2007/02/why-dont-pentagon-videos-clearly-show.html

And your proof that it was a missile or other object that struck the Pentagon? 57channels?


So what your saying is ONE single camera catches an explosion but yet CONVENIENTLY misses catching the cause of the explosion and tho there are maybe what, fifty more cameras on the grounds and only ONE catches an explosion and your good with that?BAAAHAAAHHAAAA You clowns are pathetic

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srv63
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Quote from tragicparrot:
(57channels asks >question: Now with all those camera's why don't we the people see the incoming plane [ Flight 77 ] in the air come crashing into the Pentagon over and over again like we see the alleged plane hit the south tower every anniversary of 9-11??)

Answer. Because enough "we the people" witnesses were present when the plane hit.


AND allot of us "We the people" witnessed a "black or gray military plane" hit the Trade Towers. Yep, that about covers it parrot, long as we have witnesses, who the hell needs video? Yup

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Quote from srv63:
AND allot of us "We the people" witnessed a "black or gray military plane" hit the Trade Towers. Yep, that about covers it parrot, long as we have witnesses, who the hell needs video? Yup


Plenty of video's exist showing jetliners striking the WTC's. Do you have something to substantiate that a "black or grey military plane" hit the WTC's?

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tragic

According to Housenga, it was {b]unrealistic to think that the low-quality security camera footage would reveal the crystal-clear image of a Boeing 757 traveling at 780 feet per second.
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Hell, we all get to see the low quality image of the Naudet film of that fuzzy so-called plane......so lets see the fuzzy image of Flight 77???? Maybe they dont show it because that fkn flight never even fkn took off that day and only a complete baboon would give credence to the paid stooges who said they saw a jumbo jet hit the Pentagon

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SRV

So what your saying is ONE single camera catches an explosion but yet CONVENIENTLY misses catching the cause of the explosion and tho there are maybe what, fifty more cameras on the grounds and only ONE catches an explosion and your good with that?BAAAHAAAHHAAAA
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Oh yeah.....he's good with just the one camera. Since the quality wouldn't be pinpoint-- then he's good with that too. In fact......anything at all coming out of the BushMossadCheneyReich is good with him. His black book you can find anywhere at any library in the " fiction " section.

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"His gas station, open only to Department of Defense personnel, is the last structure between the Pentagon and the hillside that, hours later, would become a wailing knoll. "By the time I got outside all I could see was a giant cloud of smoke, first white then black, coming from the Pentagon," he said. "It was just a terrible, terrible thing to be so close to."
"Velasquez says the gas station's security cameras are close enough to the Pentagon to have recorded the moment of impact. "I've never seen what the pictures looked like," he said. "The FBI was here within minutes and took the film."

The second business was initially believed to be the Sheraton National Hotel which overlooks I395 and the Pentagon. Initial reports pointed out that hotel staff had sat watching the video surveillance in horror before the FBI arrived and shut down the scene.

However, according to FBI statements in response to the FOIA request from Mr Bingham, The hotel in question was not the Sheraton but was in fact the Doubletree in Arlington, VA. AND this video did not capture the impact of the flight. (Maguire, page 7)

According to the same document, the Citgo gas station video DOES NOT show flight 77 impacting the pentagon either. (Maguire, page 6, item 15)

If this is the case then why did the FBI confiscate the gas station and hotel security videos within minutes of the crash and why haven't they subsequently released these videos?

http://www.infowars.net/articles/may2006/170506Pentagon_videos.htm

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Quote from srv63:
What are you like now, 9 years old?


Well, even 9 year olds know you're retarded, so maybe.

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Quote from tragicparrot:
Plenty of video's exist showing jetliners striking the WTC's. Do you have something to substantiate that a "black or grey military plane" hit the WTC's?


I wasn't there on 9/11 so your gonna have to ask your hologram/photoshop rejects at the lame media for that coverage. Be sure to ask for the "truth" folder. While your at it, how about asking where that piece of planted tin resembling a fuselage on top of wtc5 came from, the manufacturer should be sued selling tin as aluminum

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Quote from progrocknic:
Well, even 9 year olds know you're retarded, so maybe.


Good comeback junior

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Good comeback junior


Let's just say I spend as much time thinking of a good comeback as you do providing evidence of a conspiracy.

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Oh dear, it would seem this p*ssy has decided to block me, must have hurt him to hear he's a fool and is so wrong.


That arsehole blocks one, then trolls. He is such a wanker.

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Quote from srv63:
As far as your UA175, i think i brought up a VERY GOOD subject worth debate on your rusting fuselage but i notice ALL of you shills are side stepping and running from it. Care to PROVE to me that it's NOT RUST on that fuselage or better yet, care to give me a better explanation of what it is on that fuselage besides RUST? Don't even waste our time here saying it's rust colored dust or fine debris again because that shit will not float. The proof is in the pudding boys


For the umpteenth time you have to demonstrate it actually is rust. I'm not arguing a point that has yet to be demonstrated.

Now get on with it and stop stalling. I'm not going to respond to any of your bullshit until you've done that.

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Quote from srv63:
What are you like now, 9 years old?


Dude, are you really going to ask someone else that?

Seriously?

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Quote from naprinciple:

I don't believe the Pentagon could be hit by a plane without being caught on film, from dozens of angles.



Argument from incredulity.


I don't believe releasing NIST's modeling data would endanger public safety.



That's just borne of ignorance. You need to give that a lot more thought before you make such a pronouncement.


I don't believe terrorists would make a 270 degree corkscrew turn, avoiding the top brass, but hitting the wing where accountants were auditing DOD malfeasance.


Mere rhetoric.


I don't believe that 911 and the PNAC report to be coincidental.


Incredulity.


I don't believe terrorists were capable of avoiding fighter jet interceptors without inside help.


They didn't have to. A moronic claim.


I don't believe a plane crashed in Shanksville, shot down is more likely.



No proof exists to support such a claim: confirmation bias.


I don't believe cell calls were made from planes at cruising altitude.



Argument from incredulity & confirmation bias.

Well that was one post containing nothing but fallacious reasoning based upon poor logic and sources.



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6/28/2015 5:43:17 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

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According to the same document, the Citgo gas station video DOES NOT show flight 77 impacting the pentagon either. (Maguire, page 6, item 15)
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I wonder if this Maguire person is f**king Cheney in the arse or vice versa??? Maybe he just got a few mill from ole Larry [ pull it ] Silverstein huh??? You know........to write some phony a** paper only a bumbling baboon would give any credence too.

6/28/2015 5:43:37 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

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Let's see if we can summarise the activity so far:

a). The light pole canard has been debunked with no contradictory evidence presented.

b). UA 175's fake engine canard has been debunked and it stands as belonging to UA175, with no contradictory evidence presented.

c). The existence of UA175 wreckage at the WTC has been confirmed, thus debunking the no-plane fantasy with no contradictory evidence presented.

d). The 'missing trillions' canard has been demonstrated to be false with no contradictory evidence presrented.

If I've forgotten anything Higgy, please feel free to update this further.

6/28/2015 5:48:48 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

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You know........to write some phony a** paper only a bumbling baboon would give any credence too.
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Here at Date Hookup.com------ we have 3 bumbling baboons [ kiddies in a sandbox throwing sand at grown ups when the grown ups tell them wont buy them an ice cream cone ] who keep saying for 14 years now.......show us proof. All 3 have wittle black books that tell them what to say or how to say it to try and debunk the truth. Lots of 1 liners from the baboon down under hoping to get high 5s from the other two baboons.

6/28/2015 5:50:22 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

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Quote from 57channels:
"His gas station, open only to Department of Defense personnel, is the last structure between the Pentagon and the hillside that, hours later, would become a wailing knoll. "By the time I got outside all I could see was a giant cloud of smoke, first white then black, coming from the Pentagon," he said. "It was just a terrible, terrible thing to be so close to."
"Velasquez says the gas station's security cameras are close enough to the Pentagon to have recorded the moment of impact. "I've never seen what the pictures looked like," he said. "The FBI was here within minutes and took the film."

The second business was initially believed to be the Sheraton National Hotel which overlooks I395 and the Pentagon. Initial reports pointed out that hotel staff had sat watching the video surveillance in horror before the FBI arrived and shut down the scene.

However, according to FBI statements in response to the FOIA request from Mr Bingham, The hotel in question was not the Sheraton but was in fact the Doubletree in Arlington, VA. AND this video did not capture the impact of the flight. (Maguire, page 7)

According to the same document, the Citgo gas station video DOES NOT show flight 77 impacting the pentagon either. (Maguire, page 6, item 15)

If this is the case then why did the FBI confiscate the gas station and hotel security videos within minutes of the crash and why haven't they subsequently released these videos?

http://www.infowars.net/articles/may2006/170506Pentagon_videos.htm


Why post yet another question, let alone from known liar Alex Jones, who also took out of context the "Pull" incident, when neither you nor srv-etc provide evidence to your missile/dark coloured military plane/secret orb/or hologram program?

But anyways. Why did the FBI confiscate the gas station and hotel security video's within minutes of the crash and why haven't they subsequently released these video's?

Whenever a tragic event occurs, it is standard procedure for the FBI to acquire whatever video evidence might be available. Whats so odd about that? As for not releasing the "84 video's", why should they if all but one was able to capture anything at all? (which was released) .. What are the chances that only one camera was able to capture anything when the Pentagon should have camera's all over you might ask? Due to the presence of the more relied upon armed guards, the only purpose the camera had on that side of the building was for keeping a visual record of cars entering and exiting the parking lot. Also present were cameras in the buildings entrances and exits for the same purpose, obviously incapable of capturing much of anything that occurred outside the building.

For a list of what the 84 video's contained see linky below...

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/FBI_hides_84_Pentagon_videos

6/28/2015 5:53:06 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

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Quote from 57channels:
You know........to write some phony a** paper only a bumbling baboon would give any credence too.
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Here at Date Hookup.com------ we have 3 bumbling baboons [ kiddies in a sandbox throwing sand at grown ups when the grown ups tell them wont buy them an ice cream cone ] who keep saying for 14 years now.......show us proof. All 3 have wittle black books that tell them what to say or how to say it to try and debunk the truth. Lots of 1 liners from the baboon down under hoping to get high 5s from the other two baboons.


Sure beats the hell out that wittle black bible funwith has been toting around.