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5/18/2016 11:23:22 AM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Animal sacrifices indeed did not stone for sin. God commanded the Old Testament Jews to make animal sacrifices, especially of lambs, as a prefigure to the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross, Jesus being the Lamb of God.

Joseph and Mary were the epitome of pious Jews, in every good sense of that word, and no doubt Joseph, Mary, and Jesus participated in Passover every year, when a lamb was slain.


Low: Animal sacrifices did not atone for sins according to the teachings of the lawless murderer, tare and false apostle Paul. I know of no other person in the Bible that taught that. Paul was simply a "loose cannon", so to speak.

Steve

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kb2222
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Good grief, animal sacrifices do not atone for sin. That's what ancient man believed. You "Christians" don't really believe you can sin and then sacrifice some animal in some pagan ritual and thereby atone for your sin, do you?


5/18/2016 11:45:20 AM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

ludlowlowell
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Steve, would you agree that God commanded the Old Testament Jews to off er lambs in sacrifice as a prefigure of Christ's sacrifice on the cross?

5/18/2016 11:55:29 AM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

kb2222
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Why do you think an all powerful God would need to do that, Ludlow? Indeed, why do you think an all powerful and loving God would need a blood sacrifice (animal or human) before He would be willing to forgive man for sin?

5/18/2016 12:26:36 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Steve, would you agree that God commanded the Old Testament Jews to off er lambs in sacrifice as a prefigure of Christ's sacrifice on the cross?


Low: It certainly appears that way to me. We must keep in mind that a lamb/sheep or kid/goat or whatever else they sacrificed was a major loss for the owner of the animal and it was not something people at that time would do unless they felt there was a real need to sacrifice an animal. Sheep and goats and other animals were the very means of livelihood for people at that time. I am sure the people would be somewhat attached to their animals much like children that raise animals for 4-H programs do today. So the animals people has was exactly what money is to people today. People were rich when they had lots of animals and poor when they had few. Sacrificing animals also was the source of food for the Tribe of Levi since they were not allowed to own land and would not have/raise their own animals. Even in Genesis Cain and Able sacrificed to Yahweh. Yahweh accepted the sacrifices of Abel but did not accept the sacrifices of Cain because Cain was a descendant of the evil one.

Steve

5/18/2016 12:44:50 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

kb2222
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You don't have any kind of a personal relationship with God, do you Steve? You may think you have but you don't know God any better than the Jews 3,000 years ago. The offering of a sacrifice to appease an angry God is the belief of ancient ignorant man. Animal sacrifices don't atone for sin. Only a ignorant fool in this day ant time would think that.

5/18/2016 1:56:42 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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Quote from kb2222:


You don't have any kind of a personal relationship with God, do you Steve? You may think you have but you don't know God any better than the Jews 3,000 years ago. The offering of a sacrifice to appease an angry God is the belief of ancient ignorant man. Animal sacrifices don't atone for sin. Only a ignorant fool in this day ant time would think that.


KB: You need to do some research on the Bible. The 12 Tribes of Jacob were never, ever, called Jews until the eighteenth century. The people that are called Jews today are actually the descendants of Cain. They very much want to be thought of as descendants of the 12 Tribes but are not even close to being descendants of the 12 Tribes of Jacob. It is more than obvious to me on how far behind you are in understanding the truths of the Bible.

Steve

5/18/2016 2:02:33 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

followjesusonly
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KB: You need to do some research on the Bible. The 12 Tribes of Jacob were never, ever, called Jews until the eighteenth century. The people that are called Jews today are actually the descendants of Cain. They very much want to be thought of as descendants of the 12 Tribes but are not even close to being descendants of the 12 Tribes of Jacob. It is more than obvious to me on how far behind you are in understanding the truths of the Bible.

Steve


97:9.1 There never were twelve tribes of the Israelites—only three or four tribes settled in Palestine. The Hebrew nation came into being as the result of the union of the so-called Israelites and the Canaanites. “And the children of Israel dwelt among the Canaanites. And they took their daughters to be their wives and gave their daughters to the sons of the Canaanites.” The Hebrews never drove the Canaanites out of Palestine, notwithstanding that the priests’ record of these things unhesitatingly declared that they did. -The Urantia Book

And you really have no idea who Cain even was, Steve. You'd have to read the book you're afraid to read to find out.

5/18/2016 2:57:37 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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Quote from followjesusonly:
97:9.1 There never were twelve tribes of the Israelites—only three or four tribes settled in Palestine. The Hebrew nation came into being as the result of the union of the so-called Israelites and the Canaanites. “And the children of Israel dwelt among the Canaanites. And they took their daughters to be their wives and gave their daughters to the sons of the Canaanites.” The Hebrews never drove the Canaanites out of Palestine, notwithstanding that the priests’ record of these things unhesitatingly declared that they did. -The Urantia Book

And you really have no idea who Cain even was, Steve. You'd have to read the book you're afraid to read to find out.


Furch: Well, you are getting your false information from a book that has absolutely no hint of truth to it. I will admit that the Israelites were commanded by Yahweh to destroy the Canaanites men, women and children when they were in the Wilderness but they did not do it. They took some of the Canaanites for slaves and some for wives and this led some of the Israelites to worship false gods. This eventually lead to the Northern Ten Tribes or the House of Israel to be overtaken by the Assryian Army. It led to the Southern two tribes or the House of Judah to be overtaken by the Babylonian Army. If those Twelve Tribes of Jacob had listened to Yahweh and not taken Canaanite wives and slaves then this more than likely would not have happened.

Steve

5/18/2016 3:30:55 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

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Furch: you are getting your false information from a book that has absolutely no hint of truth to it.


Translation: "Your book has absolutely no truth it and even though I have not read your book I'm pretty sure it doesn't say what I already believe so it must be false."

That's all you've got, Steve. It's not much.

You're frozen in bible school.

5/18/2016 3:40:12 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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Quote from followjesusonly:
Translation: "Your book has absolutely no truth it and even though I have not read your book I'm pretty sure it doesn't say what I already believe so it must be false."

That's all you've got, Steve. It's not much.

You're frozen in bible school.


Furch: The Bible is the most read book in the entire world as we know it and for the most part it is well respected. The Urantia book is read by a very few people and very few of those have any confidence at all that it has any truth to it. There simply is no comparison between the Bible and the Urantia Book.

Steve

5/18/2016 3:51:20 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

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Furch: The Bible is the most read book in the entire world as we know it and for the most part it is well respected. The Urantia book is read by a very few people and very few of those have any confidence at all that it has any truth to it. There simply is no comparison between the Bible and the Urantia Book.

Steve


You're not an intellectually honest man, Steve. Ask around. Don't take your opinion for it.

5/18/2016 5:25:35 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

ludlowlowell
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Maybe Tnteacher doesn't want to read the Urantia Book or Mein Kempf or other eugenics books.

5/18/2016 5:39:24 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

followjesusonly
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Maybe Tnteacher doesn't want to read the Urantia Book or Mein Kempf or other eugenics books.


Maybe you and Steve should get married.

Maybe Steve doesn't want to believe anything you or your church has to say either.

Why don't you obey God and stop calling priests, "Father." What's wrong with you? Are you a fool?

Question: How many words are in The Urantia Book?

Ans: 1.25 million words.

Question: How many times is the word "eugenics" in The Urantia Book?

Ans: 1 time.

You are an ignorant, froward man, Lud. And Jesus says you do not love God. You are a Heretic in God's eyes.

5/18/2016 8:04:45 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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Quote from followjesusonly:
Maybe you and Steve should get married.

Maybe Steve doesn't want to believe anything you or your church has to say either.

Why don't you obey God and stop calling priests, "Father." What's wrong with you? Are you a fool?

Question: How many words are in The Urantia Book?

Ans: 1.25 million words.

Question: How many times is the word "eugenics" in The Urantia Book?

Ans: 1 time.

You are an ignorant, froward man, Lud. And Jesus says you do not love God. You are a Heretic in God's eyes.


Furch wrote: Maybe you and Steve should get married.

Furch: I am fearful Low is not my type....LOL

Steve

5/18/2016 11:38:04 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

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SHOULD GOD'S SAINTS; WITH THE PROMISE OF MANY REWARDS, **OBEY**EVERYTHING** JESUS SAID???

I John 2:3-5: We know we have come to know Him {Jesus} **IF WE OBEY HIS COMMANDS**. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar and the truth is not in him. But **IF** anyone obeys His Word, God's love is truly made complete in him.


THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on *EARTH has been given to Me. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”

Ephesians 6:8: Serve wholeheartedly , as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will **REWARD everyone for what ever good he does!.

Revelation 22:12 Jesus says, “Behold I am coming soon! My **REWARD is with Me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!”


John 17:17: Jesus prayed to His Father, "Sanctify them by the **TRUTH**! Your **WORD IS TRUTH**!!"

Ephesians 4:7, 11-16: But to each of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it...It was He who gives some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to prepare God's people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.... Speaking the **TRUTH** in **LOVE**, we will in all things grow up into Him, who is the Head, that is Christ. From Him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament grows and builds itself up in **LOVE**, as each part does its work!

John 8:31, 47: Jesus says, "If you hold to My teaching, you are really My disciples. Then you will know the **TRUTH**, and the **TRUTH** will set your free!.... He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God!"

John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who rejects Me and does not accept My words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the Last Day!"

Luke 9:26: Jesus says, "If anyone is ashamed of Me and My words. the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels!"

John 14:21: Jesus says, "Whoever has My commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves Me!"

John 15:10: Jesus says, "If you obey My commands, you will remain in My love, just as I have obeyed My father's commands and remain in His love!"


James 1:22: Do not merely listen to the Word, and so deceive yourselves. **DO WHAT IT SAYS*...But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, *BUT DOING IT*--he will be blessed in what he does!!

Deut 18:17-19: The Lord says, "I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. If anyone does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My Name, I Myself will call Him to account."

John 14:23-26: Jesus says, "If anyone *LOVES* Me, He will obey My teaching. My Father will *LOVE* Him, and we will come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not My own, they belong to the Father who sent Me.... But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, will teach you all things and will remind you of **EVERYTHING** I have said to you!"

Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus. have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Churches.... I warn everyone who hears the words of this prophecy of this Book: If anyone *ADDS* anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this Book {Including **ETERNAL HELL**} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book."

Matthew 7:24-27: Jesus says, "Everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the Rock. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house: yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the Rock. But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell down with a great crash!"

5/19/2016 1:01:44 AM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

ludlowlowell
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The concept of eugenics is mentioned several times. Concepts are more important than words. Words exist for one reason only---to convey concepts.

5/19/2016 2:19:35 AM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

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Quote from ludlowlowell:
The concept of eugenics is mentioned several times. Concepts are more important than words. Words exist for one reason only---to convey concepts.


It doesn't matter. Eugenics at base is the concept and science of the betterment of the human race and the human condition, the elimination of genetic birth defects and so on. Eugenics at base is a good concept, one that God approves of for He said, "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Mat_5:48) Don't you spend any of your time trying to better yourself, trying to become a better person, mentally, physically or spiritually? Or do you just say "To hell with it, I'm not going to shave or take baths anymore, I'm just going to let nature take it's course."? Do you think brothers and sisters should be able to procreate together? If not, then you are a eugenicist, in favor of eugenics laws. How about mom and son? Should they be allowed to have babies together? Father and daughter? All the laws against such incest are eugenics laws. Do you think two retarded people should be allowed to have children together if there is a high chance of retarded offspring? What is it you like about birth defects? Do you secretly want children to suffer? Is that part of your religion, wanting children to suffer? Eugenics, like everything else mankind touches, can be used for good or evil.

5/19/2016 8:11:00 AM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

ludlowlowell
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You were the one who said fornication was okay, not me. If fornication is okay, why isn't brother-sister sex okay?

5/19/2016 2:24:18 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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Prop wrote: I John 2:3-5: We know we have come to know Him {Jesus} **IF WE OBEY HIS COMMANDS**. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar and the truth is not in him. But **IF** anyone obeys His Word, God's love is truly made complete in him.

Prop: Yeshua followed all of Yahweh's Laws/Torah and Commands. We are supposed to follow the example set by Yeshua so we are to follow Yahweh's Laws/Torah and Commands as well.

Prop: You have said before that you rest/worship on Sunday. It is a well known fact that Yahweh's day of rest/worship is Saturday. Would you care to tell me by what authority you rest/worship on the first day of the week?

You also do not follow Yahweh's Holy Days. Can you give a reason why you don't honor/observe Yahweh's Holy Days.

You also say that you eat Yahweh's unclean animals. Would you tell me why you break this very important Law of Yahweh?

Prop: You are willingly and blatantly breaking Yahweh Laws/Torah and Commands. You pretend you are following Yahweh but in reality you are following the teachings of the evil one.

Steve

5/19/2016 2:47:56 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

kb2222
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Quote from tnteacher101:
Prop: Yeshua followed all of Yahweh's Laws/Torah and Commands. We are supposed to follow the example set by Yeshua so we are to follow Yahweh's Laws/Torah and Commands as well.

Such a despicable blasphemous LIE. Jesus did not follow all of the OT laws and He certainly did not order man or His disciples to continue killing people for all those OT absurd reasons and you know it. Are you just totally insane that you still don't understand that it is abhorrent inhumane wickedness to stone and burn people to death at the stake no matter what they have done or don't believe?

5/19/2016 2:59:58 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  
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Can You Find The TRINITY (kb, lud, & furch) In This Photograph That Was Taken Many Years Ago?



5/19/2016 3:13:40 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

kb2222
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Quote from slowpoke7:
Can You Find The TRINITY (kb, lud, & furch) In This Photograph That Was Taken Many Years Ago?

What manner of a Christian are you that you would make fun of the Holy Trinity of Deity, slowpoke?

5/19/2016 3:31:31 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

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Quote from kb2222:
What manner of a Christian are you that you would make fun of the Holy Trinity of Deity, slowpoke?


Agreed. Indeed, why would he bring up the Trinity at all, and especially in such a disrespectful manner? Maybe the sect he belongs to doesn't believe in the Trinity. It's anybody's guess.

5/19/2016 3:35:35 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  
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Quote from kb2222:
What manner of a Christian are you that you would make fun of the Holy Trinity of Deity, slowpoke?

Is anything on my post indicating that I was referring to God, Jesus, or The Holy Spirit?
A group of three people or things can also be considered as a trinity.
Are you unable to see that I was only clowning around with you, lud, and furch?

5/19/2016 3:43:35 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

kb2222
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Quote from slowpoke7:
Is anything on my post indicating that I was referring to God, Jesus, or The Holy Spirit?
A group of three people or things can also be considered as a trinity.
Are you unable to see that I was only clowning around with you, lud, and furch?

Worthless excuses. The word "TRINITY" as you capitalized it is NEVER used or considered as a group of three ordinary people. Why do you choose to clown around instead of engaging in the sincere discussion under way? Seems like you just enjoy deflecting from conversations. Why are you like that, slowpoke?

5/19/2016 3:59:25 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

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You were the one who said fornication was okay, not me. If fornication is okay, why isn't brother-sister sex okay?


Before I replied to this I double checked to make sure your comments above weren't to someone else, since they are unconnected to what you previously wrote or what I previously replied. They are incongruous. The only way I can explain this apparent disconnect is by the fact that you are undergoing mind disruption caused by the stress of trying to serve two masters, your church first, followed by God second. While I'm sure it's a terrible experience, you have only yourself to blame. Probably all it would take to begin to crawl out of it would be if you began to obey God and stopped calling priests, "Father" as Jesus commanded. After that, everything would fall into place. But it's up to you. Obey God or don't, it's your free will choice. It's God's gift to you, your free will to obey Him or not. As Jesus said, "not my will, but thine, be done." Luk_22:42

As far as "You were the one who said fornication was okay," unless you have an exact, copy-and-paste quote from me, you are probably a liar. And as far as, "If fornication is okay, why isn't brother-sister sex okay?" Brother sister sex is not OK because of eugenics issues. Laws against incest are eugenics laws. But if you want to have sex with your sister, it's OK with me. She's probably past childbearing age anyway.

5/19/2016 4:02:16 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

followjesusonly
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Quote from kb2222:
Worthless excuses. The word "TRINITY" as you capitalized it is NEVER used or considered as a group of three ordinary people. Why do you choose to clown around instead of engaging in the sincere discussion under way? Seems like you just enjoy deflecting from conversations. Why are you like that, slowpoke?


I must say, I agree.

5/19/2016 4:44:42 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  
slowpoke7
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Quote from kb2222:
Worthless excuses. The word "TRINITY" as you capitalized it is NEVER used or considered as a group of three ordinary people. Why do you choose to clown around instead of engaging in the sincere discussion under way? Seems like you just enjoy deflecting from conversations. Why are you like that, slowpoke?

Just because I may have made the mistake of capitalizing it does not change the fact that I know in my heart that I was only referring to you, lud, and furch.

You will get different opinions from on extreme to the other on any given subject and each individual believe they are right in what they believe so I do not see how anything can be accomplish by repeating the same old things over and over.

In other words - why waste time by continuing to argue about the same things when it is obvious you have nothing but a stalemate so why not agree to disagree and just move on?

5/19/2016 4:55:41 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  
slowpoke7
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Oops ...
I meant to say You will get different opinions from one extreme to the other on any given subject.

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kb2222
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Quote from slowpoke7:
Just because I may have made the mistake of capitalizing it does not change the fact that I know in my heart that I was only referring to you, lud, and furch.

You will get different opinions from on extreme to the other on any given subject and each individual believe they are right in what they believe so I do not see how anything can be accomplish by repeating the same old things over and over.

In other words - why waste time by continuing to argue about the same things when it is obvious you have nothing but a stalemate so why not agree to disagree and just move on?

Move on to where, slowpoke? The part you play in this "stalemate" is your refusal to honestly respond to posts and answer questions. So you sit back and watch over the posts and jump in an act like a clown showing indifference and/or contempt when I am waiting for a honest response to a post. Why is that slowpoke?

To make my point. 1) I say the Bible is flawed. I say the Bible is full of inconsistencies and rampant with God supposedly ordering the killing (murder) of people for al sorts of absurd reasons and to believe that "ALL scripture is given by the inspiration of God" simply because that is what is said in the Bible compiled by the church no matter what it says or what Jesus revealed about God or even the laws of civilized society is absolute brainwashed church indoctrinated foolishness.

2) If you actually believe it is justifiable, righteous and godly to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all these reasons below and you really believe that is what God/Jesus would order man to do you are NOT a true Follower of Jesus and you are no more righteous than the murderous Pharisees, slowpoke.

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

And your response to the above two statements is what, slowpoke?

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slowpoke7
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Quote from kb2222:
Move on to where, slowpoke? The part you play in this "stalemate" is your refusal to honestly respond to posts and answer questions. So you sit back and watch over the posts and jump in an act like a clown showing indifference and/or contempt when I am waiting for a honest response to a post. Why is that slowpoke?

Kb - As I have said before that it will not accomplish anything by repeating the same things over and over and over. You believe in The Urantia Book and I do not so that in itself is an automatic stalemate as far as I am concerned, therefore I have no desire to waste my time arguing back and forth with you about anything.

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kb2222
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Quote from slowpoke7:
Kb - As I have said before that it will not accomplish anything by repeating the same things over and over and over. You believe in The Urantia Book and I do not so that in itself is an automatic stalemate as far as I am concerned, therefore I have no desire to waste my time arguing back and forth with you about anything.

Are you so dumb not to realize that I would not have to repeat myself if you would honestly respond instead of running away all the time? What's the matter with you, slowpoke, that you think its a waste of your time to honestly respond? That's just a pile of dishonest crap and you know it.

My statements have nothing to do with the Urantia Book so stop making lame excuses and go ahead and quote and respond to my two statements, slowpoke.

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slowpoke7
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Quote from kb2222:
Are you so dumb not to realize that I would not have to repeat myself if you would honestly respond instead of running away all the time? What's the matter with you, slowpoke, that you think its a waste of your time to honestly respond? That's just a pile of dishonest crap and you know it.

What ever you say kb. By the way - are you saying that no one has ever answered your questions the way you wanted them to so that is your excuse as to why you keep repeating them over and over and over? If so then it looks like I am right that you are not accomplishing anything with your broken records.

My statements have nothing to do with the Urantia Book so stop making lame excuses and go ahead and quote and respond to my two statements, slowpoke.

I never said your statement had anything to do with the UB.

Let me put it this way - I am not going to argue back and forth with you regardless of what kind of spin you try to put on it.

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kb2222
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Quote from slowpoke7:
Let me put it this way - I am not going to argue back and forth with you regardless of what kind of spin you try to put on it.

You ae dishonest and devious, slowpoke, and you have been this way ever since I started posting with you on this forum years ago. The only argument that ever ensues with you is your determined unwillingness to be honest and respond to post statements and answer questions. But that's something you obviously can't bring yourself to do. You simply can't bring yourself to be honest if doing so points out how insane it is to believe that God/Jesus orders man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those OT laws of the Levitical Priests that the church has proclaimed to be God's word - and this no matter what Jesus taught and that's just inexcusable and despicable, slowpoke, and you should know it.

5/19/2016 9:09:39 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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KB posted: "ALL scripture is given by the inspiration of God"

2 Timothy 3:16 King James Bible
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

The lawless murderer, tare and false apostle Paul wrote the above sentence in an attempt to make people think that his heretical letters were inspired by Yahweh and profitable for doctrine, reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. Because of this verse written by Paul lots of people fall for it and think Paul actually had a clue as to what he was writing. The plain truth is that Paul's doctrine does not line up with the teaching of Moses, the Prophets, Yeshua and the true 12 Apostles. The lawless Paul was a fly in the ointment of the New Testament, so to speak and it would have been much, much, better if the heathen and lawless Paul's strange letters had been left out of the New Testament. We have to give credit to Constantine, a sun worshipper, and some misguided Catholic Priests that were paid by Constantine to come up with the books and letters that we now have in the New Testament.

Steve

5/19/2016 9:12:33 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  
slowpoke7
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Quote from kb2222:
You ae dishonest and devious, slowpoke, and you have been this way ever since I started posting with you on this forum years ago. The only argument that ever ensues with you is your determined unwillingness to be honest and respond to post statements and answer questions. But that's something you obviously can't bring yourself to do. You simply can't bring yourself to be honest if doing so points out how insane it is to believe that God/Jesus orders man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those OT laws of the Levitical Priests that the church has proclaimed to be God's word - and this no matter what Jesus taught and that's just inexcusable and despicable, slowpoke, and you should know it.

Well thank you kb for all your kind words and I love you too. Good Night

5/19/2016 9:19:32 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

kb2222
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Quote from slowpoke7:
Well thank you kb for all your kind words and I love you too. Good Night

Yu well deserve every one of my words and you can't refute any of them. Go run and hide like you always do, slowpoke.

5/19/2016 9:34:43 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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Quote from kb2222:
Yu well deserve every one of my words and you can't refute any of them. Go run and hide like you always do, slowpoke.


KB: Slow has always been nice to you on this site and he has been nice to everyone else too. Slow is like the rest of us in that he is sincere in attempting to find the truth of Yahweh's Word.

KB: Now you have insulted Slow and he may never, ever, come back and post because you have been so severely mean to him. You need to start attempting to be good to others for a change. Being good to others is Yahweh's/Yeshua's Way and we need to always follow the example Yahweh/Yeshua has set for us in the Holy Bible. If I were you I would be more than ashamed of myself. I don't think you sometimes realize how harsh you are to other people. I think you need to apologize to Slow.

Steve

5/19/2016 9:44:21 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

kb2222
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You are truly NUTS, Steve. Jesus did not follow all of the OT laws and He certainly did not order man or His disciples to continue killing people for all those OT absurd reasons and you know it. Are you and slowpoke just totally insane that you still don't understand that it is abhorrent inhumane wickedness to stone and burn people to death at the stake no matter what they have done or don't believe?

5/19/2016 10:06:30 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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Quote from kb2222:
You are truly NUTS, Steve. Jesus did not follow all of the OT laws and He certainly did not order man or His disciples to continue killing people for all those OT absurd reasons and you know it. Are you and slowpoke just totally insane that you still don't understand that it is abhorrent inhumane wickedness to stone and burn people to death at the stake no matter what they have done or don't believe?


KB: You are attempting to change the subject. I think you need to kindly and humbly apologize to Slow for being so very mean to him. You have a mean harshness that is not good to use on someone that is humble and kind like Slow. Slow does his very best to not hurt the feelings of anyone and that included you too. You should be more than ashamed of yourself.

Steve

5/19/2016 11:56:54 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

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[]Quote from tnteacher101:[/][]KB: You are attempting to change the subject. I think you need to kindly and humbly apologize to Slow for being so very mean to him. You have a mean harshness that is not good to use on someone that is humble and kind like Slow. Slow does his very best to not hurt the feelings of anyone and that included you too. You should be more than ashamed of yourself.

Steve [/]

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No one takes this style ad hominem attack from you on kb (or whoever it happens to be) seriously anymore, Steve. You have it honed to a fine art but when you use it over and over and over, people just tune it out.

Slow was out of line. KB said so. Kb was right.

5/20/2016 9:34:04 AM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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Quote from followjesusonly:
[]Quote from tnteacher101:[/][]KB: You are attempting to change the subject. I think you need to kindly and humbly apologize to Slow for being so very mean to him. You have a mean harshness that is not good to use on someone that is humble and kind like Slow. Slow does his very best to not hurt the feelings of anyone and that included you too. You should be more than ashamed of yourself.

Steve [/]

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No one takes this style ad hominem attack from you on kb (or whoever it happens to be) seriously anymore, Steve. You have it honed to a fine art but when you use it over and over and over, people just tune it out.

Slow was out of line. KB said so. Kb was right.


Furch: There is no reason for anyone to bully others. This is a Christian Forum and Christians are supposed to show loving kindness to others. We should do our utmost to treat others like we want to be treated. We need to do our very best to follow all the examples set by Yeshua and being cordial and nice/kind to others is certainly one of them.

Steve

5/20/2016 12:47:49 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

kb2222
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Quote from tnteacher101:
Furch: There is no reason for anyone to bully others. This is a Christian Forum and Christians are supposed to show loving kindness to others. We should do our utmost to treat others like we want to be treated. We need to do our very best to follow all the examples set by Yeshua and being cordial and nice/kind to others is certainly one of them.

Steve

You are nuts, Steve. Your warped idea of a Christina is one who advocates people still be stoned and burned to death at the stake for all those OT reasons for doing so to "please" God. So your comment above that "Christians are supposed to show loving kindness to others" is really just meaningless in your warped mind. I am not a bully because I expect truthful answers to my questions and my post to slowpoke explains why I said what I said. Here I will repeat it for you.

Quote from kb2222:

You ae dishonest and devious, slowpoke, and you have been this way ever since I started posting with you on this forum years ago. The only argument that ever ensues with you is your determined unwillingness to be honest and respond to post statements and answer questions. But that's something you obviously can't bring yourself to do. You simply can't bring yourself to be honest if doing so points out how insane it is to believe that God/Jesus orders man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those OT laws of the Levitical Priests that the church has proclaimed to be God's word - and this no matter what Jesus taught and that's just inexcusable and despicable, slowpoke, and you should know it.

And the same goes for you, Steve. for your warped/corrupt/wicked mind is much worse than slowpoke's.



[Edited 5/20/2016 12:48:57 PM ]

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tnteacher101
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Quote from kb2222:
You are nuts, Steve. Your warped idea of a Christina is one who advocates people still be stoned and burned to death at the stake for all those OT reasons for doing so to "please" God. So your comment above that "Christians are supposed to show loving kindness to others" is really just meaningless in your warped mind. I am not a bully because I expect truthful answers to my questions and my post to slowpoke explains why I said what I said. Here I will repeat it for you.

Quote from kb2222:

You ae dishonest and devious, slowpoke, and you have been this way ever since I started posting with you on this forum years ago. The only argument that ever ensues with you is your determined unwillingness to be honest and respond to post statements and answer questions. But that's something you obviously can't bring yourself to do. You simply can't bring yourself to be honest if doing so points out how insane it is to believe that God/Jesus orders man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those OT laws of the Levitical Priests that the church has proclaimed to be God's word - and this no matter what Jesus taught and that's just inexcusable and despicable, slowpoke, and you should know it.

And the same goes for you, Steve. for your warped/corrupt/wicked mind is much worse than slowpoke's.


KB: Well, we need to treat others with respect just like Yeshua did. We need to always follow the example set by Yeshua. We are to follow Yahweh's Laws/Torah and Commands if we want to go to Paradise/Heaven one day in the future. Just following the lawless murderer, tare and false apostle Paul's faith and grace only will not get us to that more than wonderful place to spend etenity. We must follow the teachings of Moses, the Prophets, Yeshua and the true 12 Apostles while living on this Earth.

Steve

5/20/2016 2:15:42 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

kb2222
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Quote from tnteacher101:
KB: Well, we need to treat others with respect just like Yeshua did. We need to always follow the example set by Yeshua. We are to follow Yahweh's Laws/Torah and Commands if we want to go to Paradise/Heaven one day in the future. Just following the lawless murderer, tare and false apostle Paul's faith and grace only will not get us to that more than wonderful place to spend etenity. We must follow the teachings of Moses, the Prophets, Yeshua and the true 12 Apostles while living on this Earth.

Steve

You are nuts, Steve. Your warped idea of a Christian is one who advocates people still be stoned and burned to death at the stake for all those OT reasons for doing so to "please" God. You should be institutionalized.

5/20/2016 4:10:01 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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Quote from kb2222:
You are nuts, Steve. Your warped idea of a Christian is one who advocates people still be stoned and burned to death at the stake for all those OT reasons for doing so to "please" God. You should be institutionalized.


KB: No, I think that we must follow Yeshua's example while He lived on this Earth. If you choose to not go to Paradise then that is up to you.

Steve

5/21/2016 2:44:40 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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CULT OF FALSE APOSTLE PAUL
(Before It's News)

The cult of the false apostle Paul is complete with a doctrine and many rules for the cult members (churchgoers). The original leaders of the cult were the Pharisees who posed as false apostles before the Gentiles.

The fame of Christ spread everywhere. Suppose one could go to the Gentiles and say we know Christ, and here are his rules for you Gentiles. The Lord called out from Heaven to Paul, the Pharisee, and told Paul to go to the Gentiles with a new gospel of UN-Circumcision, that is contrary to the doctrine Christ taught on earth, Circumcision. Tell the Gentiles that Christ decided to let the Jews be blind and so while on earth, Christ taught the Jews to follow God’s laws (Circumcision).

But now from Heaven, Christ reveals to Paul, a Pharisee, that here is the real deal, and it is just for you Gentiles because the Lord is showing great mercy to the Gentiles by revealing truths to them that are hidden from the Jews and which truths the Jews will never believe because God has blinded them.

But I fail to see any mercy toward the Gentiles in the doctrine of cult leader Paul in that Gentiles are taught to be anxious to die so they get their immortal body. Gentiles are taught they are alive in spirit and dead in their flesh with Christ. Gentiles are to remain celibate to be all holy (genocide doctrine to bring down Gentile population while the Jews have multiple wives and/or concubines and many children). Gentiles are taught certain sexual relations are sinful when they are permitted by God (polygamy and concubine relations) and were practiced by Jews, including Abraham, Issac, Jacob, King David and King Solomon. Four of the twelve sons of Jacob were born of concubines (out of wedlock), and the cult of Paul teaches out of wedlock is fornication, a great evil under Paul’s doctrine.

Gentiles who follow the doctrine of the dead cult leader Paul are cult members, whether they acknowledge same or not; and many practice their belief in Paul through church attendance. It is the dead cult leader Paul who established the altar, the Eucharist and spiritual rulers over the cult members.

Gentiles are to mortify their flesh and the spiritual rulers in the cult of Paul are claimed to be of God who are chosen by God to watch out for souls. The spiritual rulers will assist in mortifying the flesh of Gentiles. The work ethic of the Protestants comes from the belief in the doctrine of dead cult leader Paul. The Protestants figure best to keep preoccupied with work so that one will not fulfill the desires of sin in the flesh.

The cult members in the cult of Paul actually believe they are spiritual giants with many spiritual gifts. They are so pumped up on themselves they actually believe they have the mind of Christ, which is to say they believe they have the mind of God for Christ is God (1 Corinthians 2:16). Christ says blessed are the poor in spirit, the kingdom of Heaven is theirs (Matthew 5:3). Be poor in spirit, be wise as serpents (Matthew 10:8).

Be smart and stop being a cult member of the cult started by a dead Pharisee who falsely claimed to be an apostle of Christ, Paul/Saul of Tarsus.

Source of the above article: http://beforeitsnews.com/spirit/2013/03/cult-of-false-apostle-paul-2476038.html

Steve

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Quote from kb2222:
You are nuts, Steve. Your warped idea of a Christian is one who advocates people still be stoned and burned to death at the stake for all those OT reasons for doing so to "please" God. You should be institutionalized.

Quote from tnteacher101:
KB: No, I think that we must follow Yeshua's example while He lived on this Earth. If you choose to not go to Paradise then that is up to you. Steve

You are so mentally ill and/or corrupt you don't even know how many times you contradict yourself and this even when its in the same day.

You just posted on another thread to Ludlow...

Low: It is more than silly for you to think that your false church has the authority to change Yahweh's Laws/Torah and Commands. That is not sensible at all. Yahweh said most of those laws would last until the end of this Earth Age and this Earth Age has not come to an end yet so those Blessed Laws are still in full force.

So, which is it, Steve. Do you believe and advocate that Christians follow "Yeshua's example" of "love thy neighbor as thy self" or the murderous laws of the Levitical priests which you claim are "Yahweh's Laws/Torah and Commands" and say the "Blessed Laws are still in full force"?

You are so corrupt and/or mentally ill you don't even know how contradictory you are. Go see a doctor and get some mental help.



[Edited 5/21/2016 9:03:37 PM ]

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tnteacher101
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Quote from kb2222:
Quote from kb2222:
You are nuts, Steve. Your warped idea of a Christian is one who advocates people still be stoned and burned to death at the stake for all those OT reasons for doing so to "please" God. You should be institutionalized.

Quote from tnteacher101:
KB: No, I think that we must follow Yeshua's example while He lived on this Earth. If you choose to not go to Paradise then that is up to you. Steve

You are so mentally ill and/or corrupt you don't even know how many times you contradict yourself and this even when its in the same day.

You just posted on another thread to Ludlow...

Low: It is more than silly for you to think that your false church has the authority to change Yahweh's Laws/Torah and Commands. That is not sensible at all. Yahweh said most of those laws would last until the end of this Earth Age and this Earth Age has not come to an end yet so those Blessed Laws are still in full force.

So, which is it, Steve. Do you believe and advocate that Christians follow "Yeshua's example" of "love thy neighbor as thy self" or the murderous laws of the Levitical priests which you claim are "Yahweh's Laws/Torah and Commands" and say the "Blessed Laws are still in full force"?

You are so corrupt and/or mentally ill you don't even know how contradictory you are. Go see a doctor and get some mental help.


KB: In your confusion and lack of understanding it appears to me that you are jumping from one false extreme conclusion to another. I have never, ever, changed my mind or view in the very least. I have always said what I mean and always mean what I say. When reading my replies I suggest you read slowly and carefully so you may better grasp what I am saying. I very well know that your understanding of the Bible is minimal to say the very least and that is the reason I have requested that you start reading the real Bible instead of the fake and false Urantia Book.

Steve

5/21/2016 10:23:55 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

kb2222
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Quote from tnteacher101:
KB: In your confusion and lack of understanding it appears to me that you are jumping from one false extreme conclusion to another. I have never, ever, changed my mind or view in the very least. I have always said what I mean and always mean what I say. When reading my replies I suggest you read slowly and carefully so you may better grasp what I am saying. I very well know that your understanding of the Bible is minimal to say the very least and that is the reason I have requested that you start reading the real Bible instead of the fake and false Urantia Book.

Steve

Nothing but evasive BS.

So, which is it, Steve. Do you believe and advocate that Christians follow "Yeshua's example" of "love thy neighbor as thyself" or the murderous laws of the Levitical priests which you claim are "Yahweh's Laws/Torah and Commands" and say the "Blessed Laws are still in full force"?

5/21/2016 10:48:43 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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Quote from kb2222:
Nothing but evasive BS.

So, which is it, Steve. Do you believe and advocate that Christians follow "Yeshua's example" of "love thy neighbor as thyself" or the murderous laws of the Levitical priests which you claim are "Yahweh's Laws/Torah and Commands" and say the "Blessed Laws are still in full force"?


KB: It is like I have explained to you over and over again: Your lack of understanding very simple concepts of the Bible has stunted your grasp of what I have been telling you and explaining to you all along. I am doing my very best to get down to your level. I will say it this way: In order to love Yahweh with all our heart and to love our neighbor as our self we must follow Yahweh's Laws/Torah and Commands. It is that simple and it is that complex. That is as simple as I know how to make it. I very much hope you can deal with that explanation. If you can somehow understand that statement it very well may change the course of your entire life and it will, without any doubt in my mind, change it for the best. It is a truth that all people should be well aware of.

Steve

5/22/2016 9:52:03 AM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

kb2222
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Quote from tnteacher101:
KB: It is like I have explained to you over and over again: Your lack of understanding very simple concepts of the Bible has stunted your grasp of what I have been telling you and explaining to you all along. I am doing my very best to get down to your level. I will say it this way: In order to love Yahweh with all our heart and to love our neighbor as our self we must follow Yahweh's Laws/Torah and Commands. It is that simple and it is that complex. That is as simple as I know how to make it. I very much hope you can deal with that explanation. If you can somehow understand that statement it very well may change the course of your entire life and it will, without any doubt in my mind, change it for the best. It is a truth that all people should be well aware of.

Steve

You are an absolute mentally deranged idiot. How in the hell do you think you can love your neighbor as yourself and at the same time stone and burn your neighbor to death at the stake for all these absurd reasons?

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

You are beyond a shadow of a doubt a absolute mentally deranged idiot, Steve.

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tnteacher101
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Quote from kb2222:
You are an absolute mentally deranged idiot. How in the hell do you think you can love your neighbor as yourself and at the same time stone and burn your neighbor to death at the stake for all these absurd reasons?

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

You are beyond a shadow of a doubt a absolute mentally deranged idiot, Steve.


KB: You have to remember that everyone is under the same Laws/Torah and Commands of Yahweh so we must all follow these same more than simple Laws. If everyone follows the same Laws then everyone gets along well and there are no issues that have to be resolved. What I would like to know is if you follow Yahweh's Laws/Torah and Commands. The people in a civilized society must follow the very same set of rules. Your lack of understanding what exactly those Laws are that all men must follow in a civilized society is why you are often confused and lacking in what direction you must follow. It is my opinion that you must start reading Yahweh's Word if you ever want to get to the level that I have been at for a very long time.

Steve

5/22/2016 11:45:14 AM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

kb2222
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You are utterly nuts, Steve.

5/25/2016 9:35:27 AM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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Quote from kb2222:
You are utterly nuts, Steve.


KB: I have my index and middle finger on the very pulse of the matter, so to speak. These verses may help some to support my distrust and disgust of the murderer, tare and false apostle Paul. Neither Yahweh nor Yeshua would have selected Paul as a vessel to promote their work since Paul was a liar and a murderer.

1 John 3:12 ESV
We should not be like Cain, who was of the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own deeds were evil and his brother's righteous.

Cain was a murderer since he murdered his half brother Abel. Paul was a murderer since he consented into the death of Stephen and of all the people Paul put into prison there is no way to determine the untold number of innocent people that died in prison because of the evil actions of Paul. According to the teachings of the Bible Paul should have been sent to Yahweh by the hands of man.

John 14:15 ESV
If you love me, you will keep my commandments.

Paul must not have loved Yahweh since Paul did not keep Yahweh's Commandments. Paul murdered many people. There is simply no reason to think that Yeshua would have selected Paul to be His servant since Paul was a murderer. A murderer is a very evil and wicked person.

Exodus 21:24-25 ESV
Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

Under the law of Yahweh Paul deserved to be put to death.

James 2:11 ESV
For he who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.

Paul was a breaker and transgressor of Yahweh's Laws. For Paul to claim that he was an Apostle of Yeshua was stretching the truth to say the very least.

Steve

5/25/2016 9:27:22 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

ludlowlowell
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By not stoning adulterers, by not offering animal sacrifices, and by cranking your car on Saturday, you too are breaking Levitical laws, Steve.

5/26/2016 7:39:29 AM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
By not stoning adulterers, by not offering animal sacrifices, and by cranking your car on Saturday, you too are breaking Levitical laws, Steve.


Low: You have been wholly beguiled/seduced by the false teachings of the lawless and evil Paul and your Catholic Church that promotes the evil teachings of Paul. You basically follow none of the teachings of Moses, the Prophets, Yeshua and the true 12 Apostles and you make light of people that do attempt to follow those more than Blessed Servants of Yahweh. You need to be very cautious and not teach lawless and heathen doctrine. I certainly would not want to be in your shoes when the Great White Throne Judgement arrives. The Bible plainly says there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth in that more than warm evil and detestable place.

Steve

5/26/2016 7:59:12 AM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

kb2222
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Steve, you are an absolute mentally deranged idiot. How in the hell do you think you can love your neighbor as yourself and at the same time stone and burn your neighbor to death at the stake for all these absurd reasons?

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

You are beyond a shadow of a doubt a absolute mentally deranged idiot, Steve, and that's why you can't logically answer my question. You are utterly nuts.

5/26/2016 9:02:19 PM The Doctrine of Transubstantiation is False!  

tnteacher101
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Quote from kb2222:
Steve, you are an absolute mentally deranged idiot. How in the hell do you think you can love your neighbor as yourself and at the same time stone and burn your neighbor to death at the stake for all these absurd reasons?

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

You are beyond a shadow of a doubt a absolute mentally deranged idiot, Steve, and that's why you can't logically answer my question. You are utterly nuts.


KB: The only way we can love Yahweh with all our heart and with all our mind and love our neighbor as ourselves is to follow Yahweh's Laws/Torah and Commands. There is simply no other way and there is no other way to be able to get to Yahweh's Rest/Paradise/Heaven. I am more than surprised you don't understand this very simple truth. It is what Moses, the Prophets, Yeshua and the true 12 Apostles taught. The lawless murderer, tare and false apostle Paul taught faith and grace only and that is the path that leads to hades/hell. Where are you planning on going? You never, ever, answer my more than simple questions but I always answer your silly questions.

KB: It is way past time that you need to start sharpening up more than a small amount. You appear to be a grown man and yet you do not understand the simple truths of the Bible.

Steve