WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!

7/14/2015 5:43:51 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 64, joined May. 2008 online now!	cl-ass perspicacious ====================== Where the hell did you get that black book from?? Got all these big long words that less than 2% know what it means?? That's it, either open up that black book or just make up some big stupid a** word with lots of letters in it that ends with ious and then pat yourself on the back Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
7/14/2015 5:49:14 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 64, joined May. 2008 online now!	kiddies Hey........the jet the big jumbo jet Flight 175 was going some 450-500 mph we are told. Where is the wake vortex after this alleged jet crashed into the south tower???? WHERE IS THE SWIRLING TORNADO TYPE CIRCULAR WINDS FROM THE ENGINES........SURELY THEY HAVE TO BE THERE WITH ALL THAT SMOKE AND FIRE??? SHOW ME SOME PICS PLEASE...TY VERY MUCH.....NOW DONT CHANGE THE SUBJECT KIDDIES. lETS SEE THOSE WAKE VORTEX PICS????? OR MAYBE THERE WERENT NO F**KING PLANES HUH???
7/14/2015 5:57:49 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 64, joined May. 2008 online now!	Fun/SRV/others The 3 kiddies are looking in their black books for a chapter about " How to try and debunk the fact that there was no wake vortex seen from the Flight 175 crash...or the phony fuzzy plane added in to the video by the Naudet brothers on the North tower either. No wake vortex = no plane
7/14/2015 6:10:00 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from 57channels: cl-ass perspicacious ====================== Where the hell did you get that black book from?? Got all these big long words that less than 2% know what it means?? That's it, either open up that black book or just make up some big stupid a** word with lots of letters in it that ends with ious and then pat yourself on the back I'm sorry your education is not up to the same standard as mine. I'll try to dumb down my vocabulary for you in the future. Try to focus on the subject. You guys seem to be more interested in attacking others than addressing the subject and that speaks volumes.
7/14/2015 6:11:04 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from 57channels: kiddies Hey........the jet the big jumbo jet Flight 175 was going some 450-500 mph we are told. Where is the wake vortex after this alleged jet crashed into the south tower???? WHERE IS THE SWIRLING TORNADO TYPE CIRCULAR WINDS FROM THE ENGINES........SURELY THEY HAVE TO BE THERE WITH ALL THAT SMOKE AND FIRE??? SHOW ME SOME PICS PLEASE...TY VERY MUCH.....NOW DONT CHANGE THE SUBJECT KIDDIES. lETS SEE THOSE WAKE VORTEX PICS????? OR MAYBE THERE WERENT NO FKING PLANES HUH??? I'm just about to the point of not giving a shit to debating with these "sold soul" piece of shit shills. No matter if you catch their evil leader and hang his a upside down from the edge of the tallest skyscraper by his toes and as your slowly cutting the ropes secured to each toe and the piece of shit is confessing and implicating every god damn other jew bastard that was in on the 9/11 hoax/murder, these dumb f**kin shills would still stick to their bullshit scripts and say that they are right and their own puppet master is wrong. Am i right you disgrace to the human race piece of shit shills? Especially the gay one in aussie land with the big fancy words that impress noone.
7/14/2015 6:15:19 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from 57channels: kiddies Hey........the jet the big jumbo jet Flight 175 was going some 450-500 mph we are told. Where is the wake vortex after this alleged jet crashed into the south tower???? WHERE IS THE SWIRLING TORNADO TYPE CIRCULAR WINDS FROM THE ENGINES........SURELY THEY HAVE TO BE THERE WITH ALL THAT SMOKE AND FIRE??? SHOW ME SOME PICS PLEASE...TY VERY MUCH.....NOW DONT CHANGE THE SUBJECT KIDDIES. lETS SEE THOSE WAKE VORTEX PICS????? OR MAYBE THERE WERENT NO F**KING PLANES HUH??? Wow, another angry man. If you don't believe the planes were real, YOU have to show US the evidence, and we don't have to give you anything. This is how it works as you guys don't seem to have any idea. a). You state your claim b). You espouse why you believe what you believe c). You provide supporting evidence d). You then open your claim for rational discussion where the evidence is discussed in context. But, what do you do? a). Make a claim b). Abuse those who examine it and note the flaws. c). Cry 'shill' when the flaws are exposed. That is why all the truthers on this site are just amateurs without a clue.
7/14/2015 6:16:12 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63: I'm just about to the point of not giving a shit to debating with these "sold soul" piece of shit shills. No matter if you catch their evil leader and hang his a upside down from the edge of the tallest skyscraper by his toes and as your slowly cutting the ropes secured to each toe and the piece of shit is confessing and implicating every god damn other jew bastard that was in on the 9/11 hoax/murder, these dumb fkin shills would still stick to their bullshit scripts and say that they are right and their own puppet master is wrong. Am i right you disgrace to the human race piece of shit shills? Especially the gay one in aussie land with the big fancy words that impress noone. And another who avoids the subject with evasions and attacks. Grow up, Kid. Oh, and the gay thing is a bit childish don't you think, especially coming from a guy whose pic keeps turning into that of a chick. F**king loser. [Edited 7/14/2015 6:17:23 PM ]
7/14/2015 6:18:46 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from 57channels: Fun/SRV/others The 3 kiddies are looking in their black books for a chapter about " How to try and debunk the fact that there was no wake vortex seen from the Flight 175 crash...or the phony fuzzy plane added in to the video by the Naudet brothers on the North tower either. No wake vortex = no plane Poor logic. Because the relevant and limited footage may not show wake vortex, it doesn't necessarily follow there was no plane. You really need to bone up on logic.
7/14/2015 6:20:30 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Btw noclass dumbfk, Tell your mommy that she needs to let you out of the basement more often so that you can go outside in the shithole you live in to be able to see some of the junky assed cars with bare metal that is rusting or else have her take your dumb fkin a to the nearest auto junk yard to see what rust looks like on a TIN car then your dumb a might not need to question me on what the hell rust on tin looks like you moron. While your at it in that junk yard, go look at what gray primer looks like on bare tin as well because THE DAMN NUMBERS PAINTED ON THAT FUSELAGE ARE PAINTED WITH GRAY PRIMER DUMB FK WHILE THE REST OF THAT FUSELAGE IS UNTREATED RUSTING METAL TIN!!!!!** Stick that shit in your pipe and smoke it shills!!!!!
7/14/2015 6:20:44 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63: I'm just about to the point of not giving a shit to debating with these "sold soul" piece of shit shills. No matter if you catch their evil leader and hang his a upside down from the edge of the tallest skyscraper by his toes and as your slowly cutting the ropes secured to each toe and the piece of shit is confessing and implicating every god damn other jew bastard that was in on the 9/11 hoax/murder, these dumb fkin shills would still stick to their bullshit scripts and say that they are right and their own puppet master is wrong. Am i right you disgrace to the human race piece of shit shills? Especially the gay one in aussie land with the big fancy words that impress noone. Hey F**kwit. How's the evidence for rust coming along? What is it now? 40 pages? All you do is avoid your responsibilities by trolling. Man up Douche.
7/14/2015 6:22:28 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63: Btw noclass dumbfk, Tell your mommy that she needs to let you out of the basement more often so that you can go outside in the shithole you live in to be able to see some of the junky assed cars with bare metal that is rusting or else have her take your dumb fkin a to the nearest auto junk yard to see what rust looks like on a TIN car then your dumb a might not need to question me on what the hell rust on tin looks like you moron. While your at it in that junk yard, go look at what gray primer looks like on bare tin as well because THE DAMN NUMBERS PAINTED ON THAT FUSELAGE ARE PAINTED WITH GRAY PRIMER DUMB FK WHILE THE REST OF THAT FUSELAGE IS UNTREATED RUSTING METAL TIN!!!!!** Stick that shit in your pipe and smoke it shills!!!!! More brain dead bluster and evasion. You better get some evidence dipshit. I'm bored with your puerile delaying tactics. Btw, it isn't grey primer, Nitwit. You need glasses. [Edited 7/14/2015 6:23:29 PM ]
7/14/2015 6:22:42 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from class5: Poor logic. Because the relevant and limited footage may not show wake vortex, it doesn't necessarily follow there was no plane. You really need to bone up on logic. Is that the best you can do dumbass? Any unbias reader would easily see you making excuses to TRY and make this go away.How does it feel being part of the losing team loser
7/14/2015 6:24:43 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63: Is that the best you can do dumbass? Any unbias reader would easily see you making excuses to TRY and make this go away.How does it feel being part of the losing team loser You have forgotten the burden of proof F**kwit. When will that sink in to your sponge brain? Moreover, your understanding of logic must be as limited as 57's if that is how you comprehend my point. Revise logic and focus upon causation-you seem to have a problem in that area. God, you people have no reading comprehension skills. [Edited 7/14/2015 6:26:27 PM ]
7/14/2015 6:25:39 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from class5: More brain dead bluster and evasion. You better get some evidence dipshit. I'm bored with your puerile delaying tactics. Proof is in the pudding mr over educated dumb shit. As i said before, the fuselage has rust and that FACT will not change untill you morons prove otherwise.
7/14/2015 6:26:13 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 64, joined May. 2008 online now!	cl-ass This is how it works as you guys don't seem to have any idea. a). You state your claim b). You espouse why you believe what you believe c). You provide supporting evidence d). You then open your claim for rational discussion where the evidence is discussed in context. But, what do you do? a). Make a claim b). Abuse those who examine it and note the flaws. c). Cry 'shill' when the flaws are exposed. ============================================================= Straight out of the Jewish black book called " Debunking the truth " When cornered.........repeat this from page 188. Just copy and paste. Always change the subject when cornered with logical questions and accuse the logical person of being " illogical " Always go on the offensive when cornered, use 1 liners alot and throw out big long letter words nobody has ever heard of.
7/14/2015 6:28:14 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63: Proof is in the pudding mr over educated dumb shit. As i said before, the fuselage has rust and that FACT will not change untill you morons prove otherwise. a). YOU just stating the fuselage is rusty means nothing. b). You need to then support your claim. you have forgotten this part. It is NOT an established fact and that is where your story fails. You need to study the burden of proof concept as you have no idea as to your obligations. [Edited 7/14/2015 6:31:10 PM ]
7/14/2015 6:29:50 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from 57channels: Straight out of the Jewish black book called " Debunking the truth " When cornered.........repeat this from page 188. Just copy and paste. Always change the subject when cornered with logical questions and accuse the logical person of being " illogical " Always go on the offensive when cornered, use 1 liners alot and throw out big long letter words nobody has ever heard of. Oh God. That was lame even for you 57. Why is it that all your response are just rants and personal attacks? Have you no evidence to support your claims? You are out of your league, Pal.
7/14/2015 6:31:11 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from class5: You have forgotten the burden of proof F**kwit. When will that sink in to your sponge brain? Moreover, your understanding of logic must be as limited as 57's if that is how you comprehend my point. Revise logic and focus upon causation-you seem to have a problem in that area. God, you people have no reading comprehension skills. I noticed no snide remarks about the plane ID numbers being painted on that piece of fuselage.The ONLY GRAY PRIMERED area on that piece of fuselage is inside the red square area of the photo supplied by our favorite shill, which is YOU. I bet you lose this years shill bonus over that one huh
7/14/2015 6:33:14 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63: I noticed no snide remarks about the plane ID numbers being painted on that piece of fuselage. The numbers aren't painted in primer. Did I not mention that? The ONLY GRAY PRIMERED area on that piece of fuselage is inside the red square area of the photo supplied by our favorite shill, which is YOU. I bet you lose this years shill bonus over that one huh No primer there, sorry. You have an overactive imagination. Now back to the rust. Have you any evidence to support your claim regarding this supposed rust? I know you're trying to divert focus away from this, but I'm not going to let you get away with your douchebag tactics. RUST? PROVE IT! [Edited 7/14/2015 6:36:56 PM ]
7/14/2015 6:34:43 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 64, joined May. 2008 online now!	cl-ass Poor logic. Because the relevant and limited footage may not show wake vortex, it doesn't necessarily follow there was no plane. ================================================== WE all have seen different footage from all sorts of angles.......and there was no wake vortex at all. THERE WAS NO WAKE VORTEX AT ALL. NO SWIRLING WINDS FROM THOSE POWERFUL ENGINES FLYING 450-500MPH. Yes...in this case it clearly proves no real plane crashed into either tower.You comprehend now??? DO YOU COMPREHEND?? No real planes???
7/14/2015 6:38:53 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from 57channels: cl-ass Poor logic. Because the relevant and limited footage may not show wake vortex, it doesn't necessarily follow there was no plane. ================================================== WE all have seen different footage from all sorts of angles.......and there was no wake vortex at all. THERE WAS NO WAKE VORTEX AT ALL. NO SWIRLING WINDS FROM THOSE POWERFUL ENGINES FLYING 450-500MPH. Yes...in this case it clearly proves no real plane crashed into either tower.You comprehend now??? DO YOU COMPREHEND?? No real planes??? I comprehend your desperation. Look, the no-planes hypothesis is the dumbest of the lot and it is that simple. You would have to be a dribbling idiot to believe there were no planes as the weight of evidence is against you. It is that simple. I know you're not interested in evidence, but that's how it works in the Adult world. You have to PROVE there were no-planes and you just can't do it, can you? [Edited 7/14/2015 6:39:25 PM ]
7/14/2015 6:41:38 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 64, joined May. 2008 online now!	cl-ass says I comprehend your desperation. Look, the no-planes hypothesis is the dumbest of the lot and it is that simple. You would have to be a dribbling idiot to believe there were no planes as the weight of evidence is against you. It is that simple. I know you're not interested in evidence, but that's how it works in the Adult world. =================================================== Not 1 word about the wake vortex not being there,not 1 word, just a childish insult as usual. Better get a bigger black book or use some new word ending in ious
7/14/2015 6:45:07 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from 57channels: cl-ass says I comprehend your desperation. Look, the no-planes hypothesis is the dumbest of the lot and it is that simple. You would have to be a dribbling idiot to believe there were no planes as the weight of evidence is against you. It is that simple. I know you're not interested in evidence, but that's how it works in the Adult world. =================================================== Not 1 word about the wake vortex not being there,not 1 word, just a childish insult as usual. Better get a bigger black book or use some new word ending in ious You're not reading my posts are you? Trying to push the burden on me is a tactic I don't fall for. Sorry, it's not my place to debunk you until you produce evidence for examination. You don't understand how this works. I could say that a Purple Frog lives in the sky and then abuse all those who don't believe me with accusations of 'shill' and the like, but it wouldn't make me right. Do you understand this at all? Are you up to this? [Edited 7/14/2015 6:45:33 PM ]
7/14/2015 6:45:10 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 64, joined May. 2008 online now!	C'mon cl-ass...........you can oink out a new word such as preposteroikeronious to think there was no wake vortex
7/14/2015 6:48:09 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from 57channels: C'mon cl-ass...........you can oink out a new word such as preposteroikeronious to think there was no wake vortex You're just delaying by trolling, and I noticed you completely avoided the point as you often do. Two pages have gone by and all you two have done is troll, as has your mate. Now back to the evidence. Have you any? Or will you just go on the attack as is your usual tactic? Now please try to come up to my level for a change. [Edited 7/14/2015 6:49:02 PM ]
7/14/2015 6:48:24 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
funwithmusic Chapel Hill, NC 60, joined Feb. 2007 online now!	Quote from higgy51: In your dreams you are smarter. We are NOT talking about ROADS you stupid woman, we are talking about the WTC and if you had read and researched, you would have seen that the ONLY concrete was in the floors, as I had already stated to that fool 57 when I confirmed that some of the dust was concrete. You are so simple, it is unbelievable. I asked 57 for a link to show me that the WALLS were made of reinforced concrete and guess what? Yes, he couldn't and then YOU come in with both feet, up to your neck in shit because you had no clue what we were discussing in the first instance! The WTC Exterior 'walls' were NOT made of steel and reinforced concrete. RESEARCH it. FIRST ID LIKE TO SUGGEST YOU WATCH THIS MOVIE...IT WILL OPEN YOUR EYES TO ALOT OF THE CORRUPTION GOING ON IN OUR GOV...you really need to know the truth..as your here spewing dis-information..and misleading the people. ================================ Please..CLASSLESS 5yrOld..go see the movie...WAG THE DOG..and see how realize life works today in corrupt government..such as oure..[/QUOTE Yes..not exterior walls..but inner core walls...used in new skyscrapper construction..which I will prove to you..that steel reinforced concrete did exist in the buildings..and there is no way a plane sliced through them..IMPOSSIBLE.. History And The Twin Towers Concrete Core Oxford University in 1992 published this on the WTC concrete cores. http://911review.org/WTC/concrete-core.html What follows are the statements of various architects and engineers regarding the concrete core. Leslie Robertson, Architect Of The World Trade Center Towers =================================================== Following is a photo that shows the face of the concrete shear wall behind interior box columns. THE BASE OF THE CONCRETE CORE: The below image shows the interior box columns and a stair well sandwiching the thick base of the core. High tensile steel rebar protrudes from the top of the cast concrete.
7/14/2015 6:49:51 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	@ Noclass, Even a hell bent moron determined to rely on lies like yourself CANNOT explain away the FACT that in the photo that YOU posted of the fuselage, the red rectangular box area is freshly primed with GRAY SPRAY PRIMER obviously different than the surface of the rest of that fuselage therefore CONFIRMING THAT THE PLANE ID NUMBERS on that fuselage were FRESHLY PAINTED on. Would you care to disagree?
7/14/2015 6:50:14 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 64, joined May. 2008 online now!	cl-ass Trying to push the burden on me is a tactic I don't fall for ============================================== Nope, not at all. Just asked you a simple question which you refuse to answer with your nonsencal diatribes
7/14/2015 6:50:35 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from funwithmusic: Please..CLASSLESS 5yrOld..go see the movie...WAG THE DOG..and see how realize life works today in corrupt government..such as oure.. I don't use movies as a reference in debate. I've seen it and it was stupid movie anyway, like 'Loose Change'-made for fools.
7/14/2015 6:51:21 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
funwithmusic Chapel Hill, NC 60, joined Feb. 2007 online now!	look at all that steel..ALSO TO MENTION THE MASSIVE CONCRETE CORES REINFORCED WITH RE-BAR THAT RAN THE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING BOTTOM TO TOP....that the liars claim a light weight aluminum plane just cut through like butter AS SHOWN IN THIS IMAGE.. LARGE ALUMINUM PLANES NOSES ARE DESTROYED JUST FROM BIRDS FLYING INTO THEM.... WOULD YOU NOT REALIZE..THAT IF A PLANE HIT THE STEEL BUILDING..THAT ALOT OF THE PLANE WOULD HAVE CRUMBLED UP ON IMPACT..AND FELL TO THE STREET? Instead the HOLLYWOOD VERSION..is it sliced through like butter...leaving a perfect plane hole in the side of the bulding..SORRY DUMBASS..BUT THIS IS PURE HOLLYWOOD FABLES...and we all know who controls FOLLYWOOD Just like in the BOSTON BOMBING..where a man with both legs blown off...has very little blood...EVERYONE ELSE IS BEING ATTENDED TO...but no one pays attention to LITTLE JEFFIE BAUMAN...and then some MASSIVE FAIRY TALE is made up..for consumption of the masses.. Sad to say...some Americans ate up those KOL NIDRE lies as if they were eating candy..thoes dumbasses..As youcan see I have little to no patience for sheeples who beleive anything the TALMUDVISION tells them to belive...They are the most dangerous people in America...as they will allow CRIMINALS to take over our gov...believing every lie that the TV has told them... ================================ If a plane really did hit WTC 2..there would be some kind of debris...plane parts..etc..falling from the bu8liding on the outside... NOT ONE VIDEO SHOWS THIS TO BE THE CASE...proving yet again..NO PLANES HIT THE WTC..OR THE PENTAGON...the evidence proves our side RIGHT..and yours as the perps and the liars.. CHECKMATE MENTAL MIDGET.. =========================================== THE PANCAKE THEORY IS OUT THE WINDOW..IT DOES NOT MATCH UP WITH SCIENCE AND NEVER IN HISTORY..HAS ANY STEEL BUILDING COLLAPSED DUE TO FIRE. Get that fact through your heads... NOTICE I ALWAYS PROVIDE A LINK...SO AS TO KEEP MY REPUTATION AS A TRUTHFUL HONEST POSTER..unlike the SAYANIM on here.. http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/WTC_ch2.htm In the mid-1990s British Steel and the Building Research Establishment performed a series of six experiments at Cardington to investigate the behavior of steel frame buildings. These experiments were conducted in a simulated, eight-story building. Secondary steel beams were not (fire) protected. Despite the temperature of the steel beams reaching 1,500-1,700°F (800-900°C) in three of the tests (well above the traditionally assumed critical temperature of 1,100°F (600°°C), no collapse was observed in any of the six experiments [1]. One of the conclusions derived from the Cardington tests, was that fire protection for the beams (trusses) in a composite steel structure, was not necessary. See below for more on this. The above photo was taken after the office demonstration test fire at Cardington. It demonstrates that the thermal expansion of the beams/trusses was accommodated by downward deflection, not by the forcing of the exterior walls away from the core (axial expansion) as claimed above. There was also no failure of the end connections. Even though the beams could only contribute as catenary tension members (the beams were reduced to 3 or 4% of their room temperature strength), the concrete floors supplied strength to the structural system by membrane action and no collapse occurred. The beams/trusses were not fire protected. Here is a summary of features of the office demonstration test fire at Cardington. ========================================================== DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT AN ALUMINUM PLANE COULD SLICE THROUGH STEEL AND RE-INFORCED CONCRETE BUILDING BUILT LIKE THIS..AS IF SLICING THROUGH BUTTER? Do you really believe that AIRPLANE WING TIPS..WHERE THERE ARE WARNINGS NOT TO WALK UPON THEM...as they are very fragile..COULD CUT THROUGH THOSE STEEL BEAMS..AS IF THEY WERE BUTTER..and left an image like this? MY GOD MAN...WHAT CAN YOU 'NOT' BE MADE TO BELEIVE IN?
7/14/2015 6:53:04 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
funwithmusic Chapel Hill, NC 60, joined Feb. 2007 online now!	Quote from class5: I don't use movies as a reference in debate. I've seen it and it was stupid movie anyway, like 'Loose Change'-made for fools. Wag the Dog was a movie exposing how corrupt gov CREATES FABLES for peeps such as yourself to believe. Anything that can teach you the truth...you reject.. You will remain a mental midget all your life.. How sad for you.. HOW BLIND ARE THOSE WHO REFUSE TO SEE THE TRUTH? [Edited 7/14/2015 6:53:37 PM ]
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class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from 57channels: Nope, not at all. Just asked you a simple question which you refuse to answer with your nonsencal diatribes Oh, come on. You are clearly reversing the burden of proof and confusing causation, as I pointed out. Ok, first, you must show me that no footage or pic doesn't show this vortex effect. I'm not looking at all of them for you. You are talking about nanoseconds in this scenario. Then you have to show the effect as it appears in other scenarios for comparison. Just you stating thus doesn't mean shit in real terms. Do the above and I will examine your evidence, but I'm not running around trying to debunk an unsupported statement. How many times do I have to say this? I don't have the burden of proof and you have only half-baked claims that are only half-stated. A Purple Frog lives in the sky. Prove me wrong!
7/14/2015 7:02:50 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from funwithmusic: Wag the Dog was a movie exposing how corrupt gov CREATES FABLES for peeps such as yourself to believe. Anything that can teach you the truth...you reject.. You will remain a mental midget all your life.. How sad for you.. HOW BLIND ARE THOSE WHO REFUSE TO SEE THE TRUTH? I've seen the movie and your attacks have no meaning or substance, just like the film. [Edited 7/14/2015 7:04:22 PM ]
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57channels Bettendorf, IA 64, joined May. 2008 online now!	Fun WOULD YOU NOT REALIZE..THAT IF A PLANE HIT THE STEEL BUILDING..THAT ALOT OF THE PLANE WOULD HAVE CRUMBLED UP ON IMPACT..AND FELL TO THE STREET? Instead the HOLLYWOOD VERSION..is it sliced through like butter...leaving a perfect plane hole in the side of the bulding..SORRY DUMBASS..BUT THIS IS PURE HOLLYWOOD FABLES...and we all know who controls FOLLYWOOD ================================================================ Like I have said over and over again. We all saw a Hollywood B or C rated movie on 9-11 and the perps f**ked up the script big time with the nose in nose out, the alleged phony plane melding into the tower, like it landed inside it. No wake vortex, no real engines or black boxes. A B rated movie or cartoon. Hopefully this thread will wake the new young ones up to think open mindedly and expect " anything "
7/14/2015 7:07:00 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from funwithmeth: WOULD YOU NOT REALIZE..THAT IF A PLANE HIT THE STEEL BUILDING..THAT ALOT OF THE PLANE WOULD HAVE CRUMBLED UP ON IMPACT..AND FELL TO THE STREET? Instead the HOLLYWOOD VERSION..is it sliced through like butter...leaving a perfect plane hole in the side of the bulding..SORRY DUMBASS..BUT THIS IS PURE HOLLYWOOD FABLES...and we all know who controls FOLLYWOOD No, the math proves otherwise. It would only fall to the street in a Road Runner Cartoon. Speed + Mass etc. Simple maths. If you don't believe it, what equation are you using?
7/14/2015 7:10:08 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	@ 57channels, It's official, that noclass shill is officially debunked with your PROOF of lack of vortex. It's official that the rust and freshly gray primered ID numbers painted on that TIN fuselage have the shills debunked as well. Lets give the other shills a chance to excuse these FACTS away which i don't see happening anytime soon so we will take the victory for our side of Truth
7/14/2015 7:14:27 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from class5: Quote from funwithmeth: WOULD YOU NOT REALIZE..THAT IF A PLANE HIT THE STEEL BUILDING..THAT ALOT OF THE PLANE WOULD HAVE CRUMBLED UP ON IMPACT..AND FELL TO THE STREET? Instead the HOLLYWOOD VERSION..is it sliced through like butter...leaving a perfect plane hole in the side of the bulding..SORRY DUMBASS..BUT THIS IS PURE HOLLYWOOD FABLES...and we all know who controls FOLLYWOOD No, the math proves otherwise. It would only fall to the street in a Road Runner Cartoon. Speed + Mass etc. Simple maths. If you don't believe it, what equation are you using? So your going to believe the Road Runner cartoon cutout version since that is what you were taught from the television? It's still a free world (so far) so believe what you like
7/14/2015 7:16:32 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63:So your going to believe the Road Runner cartoon cutout version since that is what you were taught from the television? It's still a free world (so far) so believe what you like WTF? Please re-read my post for greater comprehension. Is English your first language? F**k me! It's like trying to explain geometry to a fish.
7/14/2015 7:24:29 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from an Inbred Faggot: It's official, that noclass shill is officially debunked with your PROOF of lack of vortex. It's official that the rust and freshly gray primered ID numbers painted on that TIN fuselage have the shills debunked as well. Lets give the other shills a chance to excuse these FACTS away which i don't see happening anytime soon so we will take the victory for our side of Truth And that was another dumb pile of shit from you. No proof of rust or primer. No proof of a nose coming out of a building. No proof that a vortex wasn't created and no proof that one should even be there. No proof of a wrong engine. No proof of missing trillions. No proof for no-planes No proof of controlled demolition No proof for complicity by the US govt or some nebulous unknown Jewish run NWO No proof of dustification. Your track record in this thread is appalling and you still have the temerity to call victory. What a F**kwit. [Edited 7/14/2015 7:26:01 PM ]
7/14/2015 7:30:12 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from 57channels: Fun WOULD YOU NOT REALIZE..THAT IF A PLANE HIT THE STEEL BUILDING..THAT ALOT OF THE PLANE WOULD HAVE CRUMBLED UP ON IMPACT..AND FELL TO THE STREET? Instead the HOLLYWOOD VERSION..is it sliced through like butter...leaving a perfect plane hole in the side of the bulding..SORRY DUMBASS..BUT THIS IS PURE HOLLYWOOD FABLES...and we all know who controls FOLLYWOOD ================================================================ Like I have said over and over again. We all saw a Hollywood B or C rated movie on 9-11 and the perps f**ked up the script big time with the nose in nose out, the alleged phony plane melding into the tower, like it landed inside it. No wake vortex, no real engines or black boxes. A B rated movie or cartoon. Hopefully this thread will wake the new young ones up to think open mindedly and expect " anything " Instead of posting nonsense littered with silly emoticons, try learning some physics. So tell us 57channels (funwith, or srv), can wood travel through a brick wall as in "Mass times velocity = Force (F = MA)? Ever been in the after math of a tornado? If not, check out this "fast ping pong ball" video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV4xVAYCK8Q
7/14/2015 7:33:16 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Or how about water through steel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G_QNjtX4t8
7/14/2015 7:33:49 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from a dumb assed shill: No proof that a vortex wasn't created and no proof that one should even be there. No vortex is going to be created from a jet airline going 550 mph? What a dumb assed statement I guess them demolition dumbasses should have used "smokeless" explosives huh shill?
7/14/2015 7:38:27 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from an Inbred Knob Swallower:No vortex is going to be created from a jet airline going 550 mph? What a dumb assed statement. SIGH Ok, little fish, we are talking nano-seconds in the cloud mass that followed the explosion. Why would you see vortex effects from then engines post-fact? You'll never be confused with a thinker will you? I guess them demolition dumbasses should have used "smokeless" explosives huh shill? Well, they seemed to have discovered noiseless, fire-resistant explosives so why not? You're not a thinker are you?
7/14/2015 7:47:44 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
funwithmusic Chapel Hill, NC 60, joined Feb. 2007 online now!	I find it funny how Classless tries to act as if hes smarter than us..using child like kindergarten tactics..... We post information..links...evidence..proof of our stance.. He produces nothing HIGGY IS JUST MAD BECAUSE I TOTALLY KICKED HIS LYING A IN THE WTC THREAD on the last page or so...in regards to CEMENT WALLS IN THE WTC....THEN CLEANED THE FLOOR WITH HIS LIMP CARCASS..** I WONDER WHY HE NEVER MENTIONED THAT POST?? I showed him photos...videos...links..and yet..not a word..other than how stupid we are Even the Parrot made note of his childish come backs... I HAVE TO GUESS CLASSLESS 5 YROLD IS NO MORE THAN 30 YEARS OLD...HES IN SAYANIM SCHOOL learning how to be a SMART ASS.....BUT FLUNKING GREATLY in regards to rebutting any of us.. POOR SQUIGGY..HIS DOG WAS SMARTER THAN HE WAS ... [Edited 7/14/2015 7:49:24 PM ]
7/14/2015 7:58:12 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
markjetson Albuquerque, NM 59, joined Jan. 2013	Quote from tragicparrot: Instead of posting nonsense littered with silly emoticons, try learning some physics. So tell us 57channels (funwith, or srv), can wood travel through a brick wall as in "Mass times velocity = Force (F = MA)? Ever been in the after math of a tornado? If not, check out this "fast ping pong ball" video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV4xVAYCK8Q That ain't "brick," gramps, that's "Slump Block," & it's not solid.
7/14/2015 8:01:15 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from funwithmeth:I find it funny how Classless tries to act as if hes smarter than us..using child like kindergarten tactics..... We post information..links...evidence..proof of our stance.. He produces nothing And another dumbass rant full of lies and misrepresentations. Please try to focus on the subject and not the person. Have you any proof of rust? No Have you any proof for the missing trillions? No. Have you any proof that the nose was a CGI mistake? No. Have you any proof the aircraft debris on WTC5 was faked? No. Have you any proof to support the story of controlled demolition? No. Have you any proof the government or the Jews were culpable? No. I rest. Can you disprove the evidence I posted regarding the Thermite? No. Can you prove the wreckage found on WTC5 was NOT authentic? No. Despite your links to stupid sites made for fools, you haven't PROVED jack shit.
7/14/2015 8:07:23 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from markjetson:That ain't "brick," gramps, that's "Slump Block," & it's not solid. It still demonstrates his point. See below for further confirmation: and a more famous example: It doesn't matter if it's brick or not, it's a question of mass and velocity. High school physics there old boy. What makes you think the façades of WTC's 1 & 2 were solid? [Edited 7/14/2015 8:08:16 PM ]
7/14/2015 8:07:57 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from markjetson: That ain't "brick," gramps, that's "Slump Block," & it's not solid. Either way, I think any reasonably intelligent person would get the picture. Or at least the physics.
7/14/2015 8:09:10 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from tragicparrot:Either way, I think any reasonably intelligent person would get the picture. Or at least the physics. Indeed! Mass and velocity.
7/14/2015 8:22:37 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
funwithmusic Chapel Hill, NC 60, joined Feb. 2007 online now!	Quote from tragicparrot: Instead of posting nonsense littered with silly emoticons, try learning some physics. So tell us 57channels (funwith, or srv), can wood travel through a brick wall as in "Mass times velocity = Force (F = MA)? Ever been in the after math of a tornado? If not, check out this "fast ping pong ball" video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV4xVAYCK8Q I must admit...you have made a good point here..but this is where you fail IF A PLANE..HIT THE SIDE OF A BUILDING..AT ANY SPEED..THERE WOULD BE SOME FORM OF DEBRIS THAT WOULD FALL THE THE GROUND IF YOU NOTICE IN THE VIDEO...THE PHOTOS...NOT ONE TINY BIT OF ANYTHING FALLS..NADA...WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE..IN THE REAL WORLD.. NOTICE THE EXPLOSIVE HOLE IN THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING..BEFORE THE FAKE PLANE REACHED THE BUILDING... ===================================== Heres another problem I have with your view on this subject.. IT WAS REPORTED THAT I THINK IT WAS BUILDING 5 HAD AIRPLANE DEBRIS ON IT...AND YET...IN THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WTC 1 AND 2...THE CONCRETE WAS UTTERLY PULVERIZED...THERE WAS NOT ONE OFFICE DESK...COMPUTER...CABINET...NADA...TO BE FOUND ANYWHERE..but some airplane parts were salvaged..I saw the photos..the parts seemed to be way to clean..for airplane parts to have blown over to another building in the midst of all that smoke fire and debris... MY GOD MAN..WHAT CAN YOU 'NOT ' BE MADE TO BELIVE IN? Just saying. but isnt it odd that i cannot find one still photo of that plane slicing through the WTC like butter? WE SEE MANY PHOTOS BY SUPPOSED PRIVATE SOURCES...AND YET NOT ONE PHOTO OF A PLANE ACTUALLY HITTING THE WTC..SLICING THROUGH LIKE A KNIFE IN BUTTER..HITING THE BUILDING...In this day and age of rapid repeating cameras..surly there would be just one person IN RICH JEWYORK....with a PROFESSIONAL CAMERA..that could have gotten a entire sequence of photos... but not so...not one photo of the plane hitting the building probably because SMART THINKING TRUTHERS SUCH AS MYSELF....know that if a plane really hit that building..debris would be falling...but there is none..at all...in the video...not one piece of plane..NOT one pieces of glass...NADA..and if they showed a still photo..that matched the CREATED VIDEO...they would be caught in the massive lie they have told OH WHATTA TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE WHEN AT FIRST WE DO DECEIVE.. ID SAY THESE ISRA-HELLIS ARE ABOUT TO CHOKE TO DEATH ON THAT WEB OF DECEIT.. WTC WAS THE SECOND TIME ISRA-HELL HAS ATTACKED AMERICA... THE USS LIBERTY WAS THE FIRST...by orders of our JEWISH PRESIDENT..LYNDON BANES (BEN) JOHNSON...who told the Jews to SINK THAT GOD DAMNED SHIP TO THE BOTTOM.. And JOHN MCSHAMES FATHERS job was to keep this hidden from the American people...and his son JOHN MCSHAME..is enjoying the fruits of his fathers labor today.. NOW WE ALL KNOW WHY THE INEPT JOHN MCCAIN..IS EVEN IN POLITICS AT ALL TODAY...HIS FAMILY IS REWARDED BY THE ZOG GOV WE HAVE TODAY...FOR BETRAYING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE... PROVING THERE IS NO PLANE..NEVER WAS..ITS ALL A BIG FAT HOAX..used to blame Arabs for what ISRA-HELLIS IN OUR GOV..ACTUALLY DID.
7/14/2015 8:35:20 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from funwithmusic: Heres another problem I have with your view on this subject.. IT WAS REPORTED THAT I THINK IT WAS BUILDING 5 HAD AIRPLANE DEBRIS ON IT...AND YET...IN THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WTC 1 AND 2...THE CONCRETE WAS UTTERLY PULVERIZED...THERE WAS NOT ONE OFFICE DESK...COMPUTER...CABINET...NADA...TO BE FOUND ANYWHERE..but some airplane parts were salvaged..I saw the photos..the parts seemed to be way to clean..for airplane parts to have blown over to another building in the midst of all that smoke fire and debris... 5WTC was not completely destroyed in the collapses and the wreckage I posted was revealed during the cleanup operations. It looks anything but 'clean' and it was filmed prior to the second collapse in situ. 5WTC and the distortion of the steel caused by the fires: Your argument is fallacious as it is merely an argument from incredulity and as such, invalid.
7/14/2015 9:09:08 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
funwithmusic Chapel Hill, NC 60, joined Feb. 2007 online now!	Quote from class5: Quote from *FUN-WITH-HUMILIATING-CLASSLESS 5yR oLD.* I find it funny how Classless tries to act as if hes smarter than us..using child like kindergarten tactics..... We post information..links...evidence..proof of our stance.. He produces nothing CLASSLESS 5yRoLD And another dumbass rant full of lies and misrepresentations. Please try to focus on the subject and not the person. MUSIC: YOur the worst in these forums who personally continuously attacks people..never providing nay meat for the subject at hand... ======================================== Have you any proof of rust? No music. rust was your idea..not ours..You called it rust..We called it NANO THERMITE..This is a PERFECT example showing others how you twist truth..and tell lies..but after all..It is the KOL NIDRE. 'YOB' OF AN ISRA-HELLI SAYANIM..NOW ISNT IT.. ======================================================== Have you any proof for the missing trillions? No. MUSIC..MENTAL MIDGET..read the first page..RUMSFILED ANNOUNCED IT..NOT ME.. =============================================== Have you any proof that the nose was a CGI mistake? No. MUSIC: ..the video...the dissappearing wing..and later most the plane..before impact...THE NOSE OUT THE OTHER SIDE...what more proof do you need?.. =============================================================== Have you any proof the aircraft debris on WTC5 was faked? No. look at it..its way to clean...for one. for two...two entire massive buildings and all the furniture inside of them..was pulverized to dust...but these few plane parts..just managed to fly over to building #5...and it just happened that the Arab passport fell on top of the dust at the bottom of theWTC.. lOOK AT THIS..AND YET..NO DUST ON PLANE PARTS ON BUILDING #5..Its just another Hollywood WAG THE DOG scene ... LOOK AT THE WTC BEHIND THIS PILE OF RUBBISH...TWO MASSIVE BUILDINGS ARE REDUCED TO DUST...OFFICE FURNITURE...DESKS...COMPUTERS..SINKS..ETC NOT TO BE FOUND IN THE RUBBLE.....AND YET...THIS PLANE DEBRIS JUST HAPPENED TO ALL FLY OVER TOGETHER TO BUILDING #5...WITH OUT ANY DUST ON IT..(remember..the entire area was filled with pyroclastic cloud of dust..memer that Class?) AND A PASSPORT THAT JUST HAPPENED TO flutter to the gfound at the base of WTC..that just happened to BELONG TO THE SO CALLED ARAB TERRORIST... NO BODIES? NO LUGGAGE WITH DAT DER PLANE HMMM? IM FREAKING SPLITTING A GUT HERE....AND YOUR TOTAL GULLIBILITY..MY GOD MAN..WHAT CAN YOU 'NOT' BE MADE TO BELIEVE IN? ============================================================= Have you any proof to support the story of controlled demolition? No. MUSIC...YEP..CUT OFF BEAMS....PYROCLASTIC CLOUD AS YOU WOULD FIND FROM A VOLCANO...OR A NUCLEAR BLAST...as we saw on 9/11.. =============================================================== Have you any proof the government or the Jews were culpable? No. yep..MILITARY MEN SAID SO..RIGHT AFTERWARDS...ONLY THEY HAVE BENEFIT FROM THIS EVENT..MAKING WAR AGAINST THEIR NEIGHBORS..LOOTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OUT OF TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS...AND DESTORYING THE US CONSTITUTION..AND OUR RIGHTS.. ONLY THE ISRA-HELLIS HAVE BENEFIT FROM THIS TERRIBLE EVENT..Its not the first time ISRA-HELLIS have attacked America...REMEMBER THE USS LIBERTY..AND JEW PRES..JOHNSON.. ==================================================== : Can you disprove the evidence I posted regarding the Thermite? No. MUSIC...I didnt see your evidence...is that your RUST THEORY? ================================================== Despite your links to stupid sites made for fools, you haven't PROVED jack shit. MUSIC...THE ONLY FOOL HERE..IS YOU MENTAL MIDGET..You can never grow..because your to arrogant to learn..You think you know it all..but by your posts..you know just about nothing at all..MAKING IT MORE EVIDENT YOUR AN ISRA-HELLI SAYANIM...HERE TO TELL LIES..AND DISTORT THE TRUTH...GO HOME YOU BASTARD..You have worn out your welcome in my coutry.. you do realize that you have only harmed your own credibility in this questioning dont you?. I JUST SHUT YOU DOWN... I JUST CLEANED YOUR CLOCK I JUST KICKED YOUR IGNORANT ASS.. AND THEN I FINISHED BY MOPPING THE FLOOR WITH YOUR LIMP ARROGANT LYING CARCASS... THIS IS JUST TO EASY..LIKE TAKING CANDY FROM A BABY...OR A 28 YR OLD SAYANIM FROM ISRA-HELL WHO IS AS IGNORANT AS THEY COME.ONLY here to do us harm..and tell his KOL NIDRE lies.
7/14/2015 9:19:39 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
funwithmusic Chapel Hill, NC 60, joined Feb. 2007 online now!	ah hah..i finally found the one and only still shot of a plane going into the WTC.. This was INTERESTINGLY done by a Jew named MEYER... FIRST..NOTICE IN ALL THE FRAMES..THE PUFFS OF SMOKE ALREADY COMING OUT OF THE BUILDING BEFORE THE PLANE EVER SUPPOSEDLY HIT IT.. SECOND..NOTICE THE NOSE IN NOSE OUT NOSE OF THE PLANE..SHOWN HERE IN WINDOW #3. THIRD....THIS TOTALLY PROVES MY POINT...NOT ONE TINY BIT OF DEBRIS..FELL FROM THE BUILDING DURING OR AFTER SUPPOSED IMPACT. I REST MY CASE THERE WERE NO PLANES HITTING THE BUILDINGS IN 9/11.. IT WAS A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION....LITTLE FREAKS WITHIN OUR GOV..WANTING TO TRY OUT THEIR NEW WEAPON..NANO THERMITE TO SEE WHAT IT COULD DO..AND DESPOSE OF RED FLAGGED ASBESTOS BUILDINGS that would be hauled away at TAX PAYERS EXPENSE..saving the Jews lots of shekels.. THERE WAS NO REASON TO BOMB HIROSHIMA...THEY TOLD YOU A C*CK AND BULL STORY..BUT IT WAS ALL KOL NIDRE BULLSHIT designed to deceive the GOYIM.CATTLE..... THE JEW PRESIDENT THAT BOMBED THEM...HARRY SOLOMON TRUMAN...(Many Jews are named Solomon.and end their name with 'MAN' OR 'MANN') WANTED TO TRY OUT THE NEW WEAPON..THE ATOM BOMB..WHICH BY THE WAY WAS INVENTED BY A JEW.. HARRY SOLOMON TRU-MAN... SILVER-MAN LIEBER-MAN ETC..YOU GET THE PICTURE HERE. When there is a Jew in the Presidency..you can be assured there will be war...and false flags up the ying yang OBAMA IS A BLACK JEW...AND WE HAVE WARS..AND FALSE FLAGS UP THE YING YANG.. BUSH'S ANCESTOR WAS SOLOMON BUSH..The Bushes greatly push the NEW WORLD ORDER..so its very possible they are Jews as well
7/14/2015 11:25:13 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from funwithmusic:MUSIC: YOur the worst in these forums who personally continuously attacks people..never providing nay meat for the subject at hand... You never could spot your hypocrisy. music. rust was your idea..not ours..You called it rust..We called it NANO THERMITE..This is a PERFECT example showing others how you twist truth..and tell lies..but after all..It is the KOL NIDRE. 'YOB' OF AN ISRA-HELLI SAYANIM..NOW ISNT IT.. You have no idea of what we're talking about and have confused two separate issues. If you care to revise the conversation you will find that SRV's rust claim has nothing to do with thermite. Please try to keep up as you always make stupid mistakes like this and it is unnecessary if bothered to follow your own thread. MUSIC..MENTAL MIDGET..read the first page..RUMSFILED ANNOUNCED IT..NOT ME.. Yes, but you quoted it out of context and misrepresented the issue. There is no proof that any money is missing as the issue was resolved and if you cared to pay attention to your own thread you would have understood that. MUSIC: ..the video...the dissappearing wing..and later most the plane..before impact...THE NOSE OUT THE OTHER SIDE...what more proof do you need?.. Yes, but that only occurs on selected footage, not empirically and that reason alone calls into question the interpretation of the evidence. The 'nose' thing is just bullshit and unworthy of further comment-too stupid to bother with I'm afraid. look at it..its way to clean...for one. for two...two entire massive buildings and all the furniture inside of them..was pulverized to dust...but these few plane parts..just managed to fly over to building #5..... So, that's a 'no' then. I knew that and your argument from incredulity means absolutely nothing in real terms. The rest of your post was just the usual junk I don't bother reading.
7/14/2015 11:28:55 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Double post....poor broadband connection. [Edited 7/14/2015 11:30:24 PM ]
7/14/2015 11:50:39 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from funwithmusic: ah hah..i finally found the one and only still shot of a plane going into the WTC.. This was INTERESTINGLY done by a Jew named MEYER... FIRST..NOTICE IN ALL THE FRAMES..THE PUFFS OF SMOKE ALREADY COMING OUT OF THE BUILDING BEFORE THE PLANE EVER SUPPOSEDLY HIT IT.. The two anomalies in the pic (one white; one black) may not be puffs of smoke as they are not moving in the frames. I'd say these were developing errors before I jumped to the irrational conclusion of bombs. But you no doubt will run with the whackiest and dumbest conclusion as you do. Let's see if we can turn your twisted mess of junk into a narrative: So, the two towers were already pre-wired with silent, and fireproof explosives. They™ created a CGI representation of the planes flying into the towers. 57 maintains that they also projected a hologram in order to fool those on the ground. So, that story deals with the witnesses. So, as the projection approached the WTC, they™ triggered some of the explosives. The surviving explosives were then triggered at the impact point (despite being exposed to raging fires) to make the buildings collapse. They then planted fake wreckage before the second collapse; Planted the wrong engine on the street-which no-one saw. They™ then faked the Pentagon attack with a missile made to look like a plane to fool those on the ground and also destroyed an airliner in Shanksville to make the story plausible. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you guys really serious when you say the above is plausible? Really? To me it sounds like a bad movie plot full of holes. Even Ed Wood Jr couldn't write a movie that bad. All you have are wild stories. You can call me all the names under the sun, accuse me of being whatever religion that takes your fancy,and you can abuse my education, vocabulary and community standing, but you won't alter the fact that your stories are ludicrous. There it is in adult terms, and at least I didn't have to create another profile in order to get support for my claims. Rational individuals have explained why your stories are silly and some individuals lurking have thanked me for the information I provided. Would you like to read the emails?
7/15/2015 12:16:29 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
funwithmusic Chapel Hill, NC 60, joined Feb. 2007 online now!	Quote from class5:]Quote from funwithmusic: ah hah..i finally found the one and only still shot of a plane going into the WTC.. This was INTERESTINGLY done by a Jew named MEYER... FIRST..NOTICE IN ALL THE FRAMES..THE PUFFS OF SMOKE ALREADY COMING OUT OF THE BUILDING BEFORE THE PLANE EVER SUPPOSEDLY HIT IT.. The two anomalies in the pic (one white; one black) may not be puffs of smoke as they are not moving in the frames. I'd say these were developing errors before I jumped to the irrational conclusion of bombs. But you no doubt will run with the whackiest and dumbest conclusion as you do. music:read under the picture..the time frames...milliseconds apart...That is why the smoke does not move genius.. ==================================================== They™ then faked the Pentagon attack with a missile made to look like a plane to fool those on the ground and also destroyed an airliner in Shanksville to make the story plausible. music...i ALREADY POSTED THE WOMAN THAT IS SUING FOR THIS ATTACK..SHE SAID THERE WAS NO PLANE. and she was being used..as a pawn..that she could have died in this conspiracy.. .SHE SAID THERE WAS NO PLANE IN THE PENTAGON... ..THE EYE WITNESS'S SAID THERE WAS NO PLANE IN THE PENTAGON.. DO YOU GET IT YET? THERE WAS NO PLANE IN THE PENTAGON THE PENTAGON HAS MULTIPLE CAMERAS AROUND IT..AND YET NOT ONE PHOTO OF A PLANE..BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PLANE MY GOD MAN..WHAT CAN YOU 'NOT' BE MADE TO BELIEVE IN...with evidence right in your face..your still dont get it...gessh.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you guys really serious when you say the above is plausible? Really? To me it sounds like a bad movie plot full of holes. Even Ed Wood Jr couldn't write a movie that bad. music..there are no holes..we have more than enough proven our postion >>It is you that has dropped the ball..and post stupid posts like this one.. =================================== There it is in adult terms, and at least I didn't have to create another profile in order to get support for my claims. music..are you sure about that? I see that you are always here...24/7...or you have some kind of JEWDAR ...that when I post..a bell rings and you show up.. Rational individuals have explained why your stories are silly and some individuals lurking have thanked me for the information I provided. Would you like to read the emails? ..yea..show me some of them...Im serious..show me some of them.. Rational individuals ..like who..Parrot..Higgy?
7/15/2015 12:22:11 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Someone recently made a reference to the core of WTC's 1 & 2 as concrete. No, this is incorrect. From a truther site (911 research-yes I know, a misnomer): "The Core Structures The Structural System of the Twin Towers Each tower was supported by a structural core extending from its bedrock foundation to its roof. The cores were rectangular pillars with numerous large columns and girders, measuring 87 feet by 133 feet. The core structures housed the elevators, stairs, and other services. The cores had their own flooring systems, which were structurally independent of the floor diaphragms that spanned the space between the cores and the perimeter walls. The core structures, like the perimeter wall structures, were 100 percent steel-framed." Video walk throughs for those whose vocabulary is merely monosyllabic: https://youtu.be/qJ11i6fi7KQ
7/15/2015 12:48:06 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 51, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from funwithmusic:music:read under the picture..the time frames...milliseconds apart...That is why the smoke does not move genius.. Do you actually believe I didn't see that Idiot? They are lighting artefacts. This snapshot was taken from the video that was used to erroneously prove a drone and they are lighting artefacts. If you view the video, they are there all the way through: https://youtu.be/xsmc_rS2jOo (see 1:12 ff) music...i ALREADY POSTED THE WOMAN THAT IS SUING FOR THIS ATTACK..SHE SAID THERE WAS NO PLANE. and she was being used..as a pawn..that she could have died in this conspiracy.. So? That means nothing. Why would you even post that? People can sue for whatever they like, but it's another story to see it go through. .SHE SAID THERE WAS NO PLANE IN THE PENTAGON... So what? ..THE EYE WITNESS'S SAID THERE WAS NO PLANE IN THE PENTAGON.. DO YOU GET IT YET? THERE WAS NO PLANE IN THE PENTAGON You are lying here and I've posted evidence previously to the contrary. THE PENTAGON HAS MULTIPLE CAMERAS AROUND IT..AND YET NOT ONE PHOTO OF A PLANE..BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PLANE Argument from incredulity and I've been over this ad nauseum. I'm not going through it again just because you're not up to speed. MY GOD MAN..WHAT CAN YOU 'NOT' BE MADE TO BELIEVE IN...with evidence right in your face..your still dont get it...gessh.. Your standards of evidence are far lower than mine. Mine are based on reason and logic-your's aren't. Do you not see how ridiculous the truther narrative is? Do you not understand that? music..there are no holes..we have more than enough proven our postion . There are many holes as I keep pointing out and you have not proven jack shit as I keep pointing out. I'm not buying your fantasy for a minute, and my breakdown of the narrative exposed the stupidity of truther claims. music..are you sure about that? I see that you are always here...24/7 Another lie, and another weak attempt at a personal attack made to avoid the real issue. ...or you have some kind of JEWDAR ...that when I post..a bell rings and you show up.. Only you could come up with something so stupid. ..yea..show me some of them...Im serious..show me some of them.. Higgy, Myself, Prog and Tragic. Why do you post these huge posts that say nothing? You complain about me being concise, yet you ramble shit on and on and on. Why don't you ever address the evidence in an adult manner? Most of your posts are a waste of bytes. You could condense your BS to a couple of sentences in most cases. All you have to do is leave out all the Nazi shit, Biblical garbage, anti-government confirmation bias and desist with the rants-no-one reads rants from idiots. [Edited 7/15/2015 12:50:54 AM ]
7/15/2015 12:59:31 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
higgy51 Navarro, CA 61, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from srv63: ` As far as 57's statement, there IS a steel reinforced mesh inside the concrete that makes up EVERY SINGLE FLOOR in both towers so he is not wrong about his statement of steel reinforced concrete in both towers so YOU need to do more research. Yes, we ALL know that you dumb screwball! I told him that very fact. However, like Funwithnobrains, you jump in with both feet...and just as Class said after your post above, 57 once again (like you do) shifted the goal posts once he was found to have been debunked about the plane crashing THROUGH a steel reinforced concrete BUILDING. Now, there is one thing for sure, he did NOT mean the floors did he? He meant the side of the building, just as shown on numerous photo's and video's. I don't recall ONE photo showing the planes crashing through the FLOORS, do you?

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