WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!

7/15/2015 1:08:50 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
higgy51 Navarro, CA 61, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from class5: Higgy, Myself, Prog and Tragic. Why do you post these huge posts that say nothing? You complain about me being concise, yet you ramble shit on and on and on. Why don't you ever address the evidence in an adult manner? Most of your posts are a waste of bytes. You could condense your BS to a couple of sentences in most cases. All you have to do is leave out all the Nazi shit, Biblical garbage, anti-government confirmation bias and desist with the rants-no-one reads rants from idiots. Well said. I rarely, if ever read any of her posts when they are a page long and contain the words jews and or zions...not to mention photo's that mean nothing or have been repeated over and over again. FUN? TRY posting in a concise manner, you MIGHT be taken a tad more serious if you did that. Your posts are boring, they are immaterial 95% of the time and are repetitious. Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
7/15/2015 1:13:58 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
higgy51 Navarro, CA 61, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from srv63: ` One thing at a time shill. Oh, does that mean that you have NO proof to the fuselage being made of tin? Of course you don't, so keep changing direction srv, you and 57 will soon be meeting up and then neither of you will have nowhere to run because you will have already gone down that road 4 times. You are nothing but a liar and one stupid man. Stop trying to convince others that you know what you are talking about, you don't and when asked for proof, you cannot provide it, and you now why? Because you grab the stuff from your a** and lame brain. Didn't you think for one second that we would look for ANY proof that the fuselage was made of tin? That we wouldn't look for anyone anywhere mentioning it was made of tin? You are dumb.
7/15/2015 1:25:49 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from higgy51:Well said. I rarely, if ever read any of her posts when they are a page long and contain the words jews and or zions...not to mention photo's that mean nothing or have been repeated over and over again. Thank you. If Fun hadn't opened the thread, I probably would block her, as her posts are self-indulgent, grammatically poor, irrational, offensively anti-Semitic and crass. Often her 'facts' are confused as I recently pointed out (re: the rust canard). Oh well, it's the only 9/11 thread in town, and truthers never show up when I post threads about 9/11. https://DateHookup.dating/Thread-1419023.htm [Edited 7/15/2015 1:26:05 AM ]
7/15/2015 1:26:43 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
higgy51 Navarro, CA 61, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from 57channels: WE all have seen different footage from all sorts of angles.......and there was no wake vortex at all. THERE WAS NO WAKE VORTEX AT ALL. NO SWIRLING WINDS FROM THOSE POWERFUL ENGINES FLYING 450-500MPH. Yes...in this case it clearly proves no real plane crashed into either tower.You comprehend now??? DO YOU COMPREHEND?? No real planes??? Tell me something 57....how do we SEE wake vortex? Go to any airport and look at planes approaching, do you actually SEE vortex? One other point that might appertain to your reason why we don't see any is: When the planes hit the building, they STOPPED ergo any explosion you see/saw wasn't and wouldn't be affected by wake vortex because a STILL plane produces none. Show me wake vortex from a plane flying at circa 900 feet.
7/15/2015 1:31:28 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from higgy51:Tell me something 57....how do we SEE wake vortex? Go to any airport and look at planes approaching, do you actually SEE vortex? One other point that might appertain to your reason why we don't see any is: When the planes hit the building, they STOPPED ergo any explosion you see/saw wasn't and wouldn't be affected by wake vortex because a STILL plane produces none. Show me wake vortex from a plane flying at circa 900 feet. --------------------------------------- I think (and I may be wrong) we are to look for it in the impact blast, that's why I keep saying he is talking in nano-seconds. It must be or the idea doesn't make any sense. [Edited 7/15/2015 1:32:49 AM ]
7/15/2015 1:43:33 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
higgy51 Navarro, CA 61, joined Nov. 2012	You could be right Class, I just cannot see any reason to try to prove or disprove to be honest. ANY solid mass hitting another will produce a 'back blast' sort of thing. However, we know one thing for sure...srv will NEVER be able to prove the fuselage was made of tin. 57 will never provide proof that the Towers were constructed with steel reinforced concrete instead of tubular steel. Srv will never be able to prove that the Taxi drivers wife was IN the FBI. And finally, srv will never move onto to try to debunk the Pentagon and Shanksville situation, like he threatened some 60 pages ago!
7/15/2015 1:48:14 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from higgy51:You could be right Class, I just cannot see any reason to try to prove or disprove to be honest. ANY solid mass hitting another will produce a 'back blast' sort of thing. However, we know one thing for sure...srv will NEVER be able to prove the fuselage was made of tin. 57 will never provide proof that the Towers were constructed with steel reinforced concrete instead of tubular steel. Srv will never be able to prove that the Taxi drivers wife was IN the FBI. And finally, srv will never move onto to try to debunk the Pentagon and Shanksville situation, like he threatened some 60 pages ago! Amen to all the above! We are wasting our time on these guys, as it is clear that they can't operate on our level. I only bother to counter the mythology with reason for those who lurk, but I do need to curb my responses to their baiting, as it only prolongs the argument. Then again.....bugger 'em (as we say here in the vernacular). [Edited 7/15/2015 1:50:03 AM ]
7/15/2015 2:01:42 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
higgy51 Navarro, CA 61, joined Nov. 2012	Agreed, bugger them and lets have a cup of rosy lee (lea?) To be very honest with you, it is getting close to the time when I am gonna leave this thread, the 'Three UNwise Monkey's' just seem to be content with going round in circles and avoid answering those darn awkward questions that debunk them. Both srv and 57 dance far better than Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers ever did!
7/15/2015 2:19:56 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from higgy51:Agreed, bugger them and lets have a cup of rosy lee (lea?) To be very honest with you, it is getting close to the time when I am gonna leave this thread, the 'Three UNwise Monkey's' just seem to be content with going round in circles and avoid answering those darn awkward questions that debunk them. Both srv and 57 dance far better than Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers ever did! Agreed, I'm becoming very bored with the repetition and the lack of any real attempt to address the contradictory evidence. All they are interested in is flaming and baiting, and 57 is just putting out any old junk that takes his fancy now. Can you imagine trying to discuss the NIST report with these guys? It just wouldn't happen. Especially once we got into the technical detail of 7WTC. I'm on a lot of sites like this, and over the last two or three years all threads on 9/11 have begun to die off. Anything that still surfaces relies on old canards that have been long debunked, and those who post them are the same few faces. So it appears that it is only the hardcore truthers that remain (read that as insane), and many rational individuals who once had doubts have moved on as each point is explained in a rational fashion. To me, this indicates the movement is slowly dying off. We have to ask ourselves, is it better to respond to these threads, or is it better to let them die off into obscurity unopposed? I sometimes wonder if we help perpetuate the movement by merely responding to their outrageous claims?
7/15/2015 10:57:23 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 65, joined May. 2008	Fun IF A PLANE..HIT THE SIDE OF A BUILDING..AT ANY SPEED..THERE WOULD BE SOME FORM OF DEBRIS THAT WOULD FALL THE THE GROUND IF YOU NOTICE IN THE VIDEO...THE PHOTOS...NOT ONE TINY BIT OF ANYTHING FALLS..NADA...WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE..IN THE REAL WORLD.. NOTICE THE EXPLOSIVE HOLE IN THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING..BEFORE THE FAKE PLANE REACHED THE BUILDING... ===================================================== Now wait a minute. If a real plane was going 1 million miles an hour or 1000X warp speed-- maybe that plane might have gone all the way through the building with a real small hole....but yeah I still think the wings would have sheared off?? Back to reality.......no such plane could have been going 4-500 miles per hour at 1000 ft altitude or the plane would have broke apart I think. The air is soo much denser than 30,000 feet...so those engines couldn't have kept that plane going that fast that low. Then the pilots for truth [ who flew the big birds ] said they couldnt hit the tower dead center anyway. Now...the kiddies will call them a bunch of conspiracy kooks..we all know that.
7/15/2015 11:06:22 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 65, joined May. 2008	Fun IT WAS REPORTED THAT I THINK IT WAS BUILDING 5 HAD AIRPLANE DEBRIS ON IT...AND YET...IN THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WTC 1 AND 2...THE CONCRETE WAS UTTERLY PULVERIZED...THERE WAS NOT ONE OFFICE DESK...COMPUTER...CABINET...NADA...TO BE FOUND ANYWHERE..but some airplane parts were salvaged..I saw the photos..the parts seemed to be way to clean..for airplane parts to have blown over to another building in the midst of all that smoke fire and debris... ======================================================== Now didn't you know that the 7 foot piece of fuselage and Mohammed Atta's passport were both caught up in a small jet stream for 15 seconds away from all that smoke and fire and landed unscathed. One on the roof, and the other on the street?? If landing gear came out of the south tower......rest assured it was there long before 9-11 and blown out of the south tower to give the " illusion " that a plane hit??? The biggest magic show ever.
7/15/2015 11:11:32 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 65, joined May. 2008	Fun/SRV/Mark/Patriots I am surprized that the perps didn't kill a few Arabs, put them on certain floors of each tower and then blast their already dead bodies out of each tower along with the landing gear. I guess they were afraid one body might hit traitor rudy guilliani who was walking around with his head up his a** pretending to be some kind of hero
7/15/2015 3:43:32 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from class5: Quote from higgy51:Agreed, bugger them and lets have a cup of rosy lee (lea?) To be very honest with you, it is getting close to the time when I am gonna leave this thread, the 'Three UNwise Monkey's' just seem to be content with going round in circles and avoid answering those darn awkward questions that debunk them. Both srv and 57 dance far better than Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers ever did! Agreed, I'm becoming very bored with the repetition and the lack of any real attempt to address the contradictory evidence. All they are interested in is flaming and baiting, and 57 is just putting out any old junk that takes his fancy now. Can you imagine trying to discuss the NIST report with these guys? It just wouldn't happen. Especially once we got into the technical detail of 7WTC. I'm on a lot of sites like this, and over the last two or three years all threads on 9/11 have begun to die off. Anything that still surfaces relies on old canards that have been long debunked, and those who post them are the same few faces. So it appears that it is only the hardcore truthers that remain (read that as insane), and many rational individuals who once had doubts have moved on as each point is explained in a rational fashion. To me, this indicates the movement is slowly dying off. We have to ask ourselves, is it better to respond to these threads, or is it better to let them die off into obscurity unopposed? I sometimes wonder if we help perpetuate the movement by merely responding to their outrageous claims? I think the only thing we need worry perpetuating, is the fact that most if not all 911 denier type movements are quickly grinding to a halt. Are any of the residual claims funwith 57 and srv repeatedly toss about still worth responding to? I believe so, in that there will always be those with a poor understanding of physics and engineering who may be left vulnerable to that which truther's generally rely on. ... The last three posts courtesy 57channels being the perfect example.
7/15/2015 5:07:29 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from tragicparrot: I think the only thing we need worry perpetuating, is the fact that most if not all 911 denier type movements are quickly grinding to a halt. Are any of the residual claims funwith 57 and srv repeatedly toss about still worth responding to? I believe so, in that there will always be those with a poor understanding of physics and engineering who may be left vulnerable to that which truther's generally rely on. ... The last three posts courtesy 57channels being the perfect example. Yes, and I agree with your thoughts on the subject, however, I sometimes wonder if this insane movement would disappear quicker if we ignored it. But you do raise a very cogent point regarding those who do not have the necessary education to understand the errors behind the claims of 9/11 truth.
7/15/2015 5:15:15 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
progrocknic Mount Arlington, NJ 32, joined Dec. 2012	I'll still never understand why these truthers don't look into plausible theories. What if the government just hired guys to play terrorists? All the evidence would match up. No need to come up with crazy explanations for what happened if that's the case. But no, let's go for the craziest most outlandish theory possible, because that will help uncover the actions of our government.
7/15/2015 5:20:28 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from 57channels: Back to reality.......no such plane could have been going 4-500 miles per hour at 1000 ft altitude or the plane would have broke apart I think. The air is soo much denser than 30,000 feet...so those engines couldn't have kept that plane going that fast that low. Then the pilots for truth [ who flew the big birds ] said they couldnt hit the tower dead center anyway. Yeah Rob Balsamo from P4T says this couldn't happen: https://youtu.be/Uiv6UvYnf3s So do you obviously. LOLOL Balsamo is a con man and he has you fooled. Not that it would be difficult. [Edited 7/15/2015 5:21:14 PM ]
7/15/2015 5:21:59 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
progrocknic Mount Arlington, NJ 32, joined Dec. 2012	Quote from class5: Yeah Rob Balsamo from P4T says this couldn't happen: https://youtu.be/Uiv6UvYnf3s So do you obviously. LOLOL Balsamo is a con man and he has you fooled. Not that it would be difficult. Can't fly at 400-500 mph with tens of thousand of pounds of thrust? Sounds like someone doesn't understand aviation.
7/15/2015 5:31:15 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from progrocknic: I'll still never understand why these truthers don't look into plausible theories. What if the government just hired guys to play terrorists? All the evidence would match up. No need to come up with crazy explanations for what happened if that's the case. But no, let's go for the craziest most outlandish theory possible, because that will help uncover the actions of our government. I don't understand that either. They post the most outrageous stories then respond irrationally to those who can see the flaws in their hypotheses. Wtf is with that? The narrative according to 9/11 truth is utterly ridiculous, especially in light of the fact that the Cole bombing gave any administration all the pretext needed to address AQ. So, the motive is nonsense. Their stories are irrational, implausible, impractical and illogical, and they wonder why we don't buy it?
7/15/2015 5:31:43 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from progrocknic: Can't fly at 400-500 mph with tens of thousand of pounds of thrust? Sounds like someone doesn't understand aviation. Yes, Balsamo is a first class D*ckhead. I used to joust with that nutter on Debating Politics, but he was banned for being a douche. Shame really, I didn't mind making him look like an idiot considering he was such an objectionable man. [Edited 7/15/2015 5:33:15 PM ]
7/15/2015 5:42:57 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from class5: Yes, Balsamo is a first class D*ckhead. I used to joust with that nutter on Debating Politics, but he was banned for being a douche. Shame really, I didn't mind making him look like an idiot considering he was such an objectionable man. On the lighter side. At least here you can count on most truther's to make idiots of themselves without much help at all.
7/15/2015 5:44:10 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from tragicparrot: On the lighter side. At least here you can count on most truther's to make idiots of themselves without much help at all. Yes, just let them post.
7/15/2015 5:47:36 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from class5: Yes, just let them post. Got it!
7/15/2015 6:07:35 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
progrocknic Mount Arlington, NJ 32, joined Dec. 2012	Quote from class5: Yes, Balsamo is a first class D*ckhead. I used to joust with that nutter on Debating Politics, but he was banned for being a douche. Shame really, I didn't mind making him look like an idiot considering he was such an objectionable man. My mistake, it's not tens of thousands of thrust. Each engine is rated at 50,000 pounds of thrust. And just for a reference on the structural integrity of the 767, the airframe is rated to .86 of Mach speed at any altitude before the risk of structural failure. The speed of sound at approximate sea level is 761 mph on a standard day. Therefore the theoretical maximum speed the 767-200 can reach intact is, conservatively, .86 x 761mph = 654mph or approximately 100mph above the officially reported speed of AA11 or UA175.
7/15/2015 6:23:52 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from progrocknic: My mistake, it's not tens of thousands of thrust. Each engine is rated at 50,000 pounds of thrust. And just for a reference on the structural integrity of the 767, the airframe is rated to .86 of Mach speed at any altitude before the risk of structural failure. The speed of sound at approximate sea level is 761 mph on a standard day. Therefore the theoretical maximum speed the 767-200 can reach intact is, conservatively, .86 x 761mph = 654mph or approximately 100mph above the officially reported speed of AA11 or UA175. Nice! And the figures are always rated very conservatively according to the test pilot on ISF. These aircraft can withstand higher stresses than rated (obviously) in order to increase the survival rate of accidents.
7/15/2015 6:44:19 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from 57channels: If landing gear came out of the south tower......rest assured it was there long before 9-11 and blown out of the south tower to give the " illusion " that a plane hit??? The biggest magic show ever. Do you really think that is plausible? How does that sound rational to you? They stored the landing gear in the WTC, and then fired it out like a cannon while fires rage around the spot, only to be wedged between two buildings for discovery 10 years later. Are you out of your gourd? Or you are just pulling our collective legs?
7/15/2015 9:27:21 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from higgy51: Yes, we ALL know that you dumb screwball! I told him that very fact. However, like Funwithnobrains, you jump in with both feet...and just as Class said after your post above, 57 once again (like you do) shifted the goal posts once he was found to have been debunked about the plane crashing THROUGH a steel reinforced concrete BUILDING. Now, there is one thing for sure, he did NOT mean the floors did he? He meant the side of the building, just as shown on numerous photo's and video's. I don't recall ONE photo showing the planes crashing through the FLOORS, do you? Dumb screwball? Your one testy shit today, aren't you. Not enough nap time? As far as which would do more damage to a plane, concrete walls or a concrete floor that would slice into the plane, i guarantee the concrete floor will do one hell of allot more damage. And higgy, do you need to see a photo of a plane crashing thru the floors when your peanut brain should be able to already figure out that it would be impossible to land a boeing 767 in between the trade center floors without hitting atleast two floors.
7/15/2015 9:36:54 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from higgy51: Oh, does that mean that you have NO proof to the fuselage being made of tin? Of course you don't, so keep changing direction srv, you and 57 will soon be meeting up and then neither of you will have nowhere to run because you will have already gone down that road 4 times. You are nothing but a liar and one stupid man. Stop trying to convince others that you know what you are talking about, you don't and when asked for proof, you cannot provide it, and you now why? Because you grab the stuff from your a** and lame brain. Didn't you think for one second that we would look for ANY proof that the fuselage was made of tin? That we wouldn't look for anyone anywhere mentioning it was made of tin? You are dumb. As i have always stated to you moron shills, i don't need to prove the section of fuselage that was found on the roof of WTC5 was TIN, it's going to be TIN until you brainless twits prove otherwise. One other thing i noticed is NOT 1 of you morons even addressed the OBVIOUS gray primer spray paint used to spray the fake plane ID numbers on that TIN fuselage. Would you clowns care to try debunking it now? And higgy, if i'm dumb as you claim but yet i'm able to mop the floor with your ignorant ass, what does that say for you?
7/15/2015 9:54:19 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from higgy51: Tell me something 57....how do we SEE wake vortex? Go to any airport and look at planes approaching, do you actually SEE vortex? One other point that might appertain to your reason why we don't see any is: When the planes hit the building, they STOPPED ergo any explosion you see/saw wasn't and wouldn't be affected by wake vortex because a STILL plane produces none. Show me wake vortex from a plane flying at circa 900 feet. So now higgy gonna act dumber than he really is by asking "how is one supposed to see a wake vortex" when the whole area around a plane is consumed in flames and smoke. Really higgy? A wake vortex should not be present after a plane hits a building then the plane becomes "still" ? What is this "still" you speak of higgy? The "still" that happens in your daily cartoon shows? If the plane became "still" right when it hit the building,then 100% of that plane fell to the streets below. Where are the planes higgy? If a plane really went inside of each tower, then by god part of the wake vortex went inside the buildings as well SO PROVE IT SHILLS!!!!!. Oh no video proof then i guess you dumb assed idiots have been OFFICIALLY DEBUNKED BY 57Channels .
7/15/2015 11:34:03 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63: Dumb screwball? Your one testy shit today, aren't you. Not enough nap time? As far as which would do more damage to a plane, concrete walls or a concrete floor that would slice into the plane, i guarantee the concrete floor will do one hell of allot more damage. And higgy, do you need to see a photo of a plane crashing thru the floors when your peanut brain should be able to already figure out that it would be impossible to land a boeing 767 in between the trade center floors without hitting atleast two floors. It didn't and I don't think he stated thus. See the Purdue University simulation posted earlier for the best representation of the event. Here it is again: https://youtu.be/4FfAYIaH-wE More on the subject: http://www.purdue.edu/uns/x/2007a/070612HoffmannWTC.html
7/15/2015 11:36:41 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63: As i have always stated to you moron shills, i don't need to prove the section of fuselage that was found on the roof of WTC5 was TIN, it's going to be TIN until you brainless twits prove otherwise. No, you clearly have the burden of proof on this one and you know it. You're just behaving like a wanker by ignoring it. One other thing i noticed is NOT 1 of you morons even addressed the OBVIOUS gray primer spray paint used to spray the fake plane ID numbers on that TIN fuselage. Would you clowns care to try debunking it now? I addressed it, here it is again: it doesn't look like primer, and you have the burden of proof to prove otherwise. Now get to it. And higgy, if i'm dumb as you claim but yet i'm able to mop the floor with your ignorant ass, what does that say for you? You're unable to mop the floor with anyone.
7/15/2015 11:40:51 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63: So now higgy gonna act dumber than he really is by asking "how is one supposed to see a wake vortex" when the whole area around a plane is consumed in flames and smoke. Really higgy? A wake vortex should not be present after a plane hits a building then the plane becomes "still" ? What is this "still" you speak of higgy? The "still" that happens in your daily cartoon shows? If the plane became "still" right when it hit the building,then 100% of that plane fell to the streets below. Where are the planes higgy? If a plane really went inside of each tower, then by god part of the wake vortex went inside the buildings as well SO PROVE IT SHILLS!!!!!. Oh no video proof then i guess you dumb assed idiots have been OFFICIALLY DEBUNKED BY 57Channels . You're talking about nano-seconds and you're also trying to find engine vortices when the whole picture is nothing BUT vortices created by the impact explosion. Your line of reasoning on this canard is stupid, and I agree with Higgy, it's not worth addressing. Obviously you guys are running out of stupid ideas to try and prove your poorly developed and poorly thought out story. It is a little sad to watch you dupes flounder as your desperation becomes obvious. However, I'm sure I'll get over it.
7/15/2015 11:54:44 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	To SRV and 57. Just coming up with any old junk, feigning incredulity and reversing the burden of proof is not debate-it's just Bullshit. YOU have the burden to demonstrate WHY your incredulity exists, otherwise it is meaningless. Then you have to provided supporting evidence to prove your case. After that, is considered good form to open up the subject for analysis and discussion. If the evidence fails to support the claim, the original (null) hypothesis stands. You both are quite unable to follow this protocol and need to resort to mendacity to avoid the obligations stated above. If you observe these rules we will progress a lot quicker, and we won't be subject to reams of worthless blather, and we might be able to through the points in a logical sequence instead of diverting the subject by adding new points before the previous is resolved. This is just dishonest and clearly an evasive tactic in the overall strategy. The strategy you ask? "The goal of conspiracy rhetoric is to bog down the discussion and to not reach a conclusion" ~ Jay Windley Yes, we know.
7/16/2015 12:42:04 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	A popular truther source ( Craig Bartmer) has renounced 9/11 truth: https://www.facebook.com/wewereliedtoabout911/posts/1492191681031470?hc_location=ufi
7/16/2015 1:00:49 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
higgy51 Navarro, CA 61, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from srv63: As i have always stated to you moron shills, i don't need to prove the section of fuselage that was found on the roof of WTC5 was TIN, it's going to be TIN until you brainless twits prove otherwise. One other thing i noticed is NOT 1 of you morons even addressed the OBVIOUS gray primer spray paint used to spray the fake plane ID numbers on that TIN fuselage. Would you clowns care to try debunking it now? And higgy, if i'm dumb as you claim but yet i'm able to mop the floor with your ignorant ass, what does that say for you? You couldn't even mop the floors with a mop, you are that dumb, you'd use the wrong end. So, until we can prove that a fuselage of a plane is not made of tin, then that one is made of tin? Tip, go to any website site and type in construction of a fuselage and you will see that they are not made of tin. Debate over. THEY ARE NOT MADE OF TIN.
7/16/2015 10:14:56 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 65, joined May. 2008	SRV you know the evidence is so unbelievably overwhelming that no f****** planes hit the big towers that one would think they would have killed a few Arabs and stuck them in the tower and blew them out the other end with the landing gear to try to make us think that planes hit the towers???? of course when the perps are that arrogant, they don't care how much evidence bruise it was an inside job and no planes flew they got the media to smooth it all over and they got kitties all over the internet sayin in the burden of proof is on you
7/16/2015 10:19:25 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Courtesy Mike Metzger (Mikeymetz) co-founder of 911Truth UAlbany. December 31, 2008 http://extruther.blogspot.com/ Change of Heart? I might be thinking too much of myself, but I'm sure some of you are already jumping to conclusions over my apparent "change of heart." I can hear it already. "Mikey stopped smoking pot, and now he's ultra-conservative all of sudden." Or, how about "Mikey's fkin girlfriend changed him overnight." If there's anyone who simplified my situation using one of these rationalizations immediately upon observing the obvious changes in my profile, I don't think it's too outrageous to claim that you're one who quickly jumps to conclusions. I don't mean to offend anyone (although, I know I am), but I think that statement is rather representative of the entire 9/11 Truth Movement. My "change of heart" didn't happen overnight. This has been a process that has been eating away at me for the past month and a half. I wanted to act strategically as far as "coming out" as a means to perhaps transition the 9/11 Truth group on campus to one that was less focused on strictly 9/11-related issues (aka more truthful ones). However, I was exposed to something that truly angered me deep down in the wee hours of this morning, which I'll get to later. I was so outraged that I can no longer keep my mouth shut. For whatever reasons at the time, I no-showed the 8/11 truth action our group was doing in Albany. Instead, I watched a movie called Screw Loose Change. I expected it to point out a few corrections in some minor details of the film. To my surprise, it contested just about every claim in the entire movie. I was a bit shocked. I was a true believer of all this controlled demolition nonsense for a time. I never cared about the physics or the claims of pseudo-"experts." What always did it for me was the fact that there was never a decent response to any of these questions by the government. Even the hit pieces you'd see on 9/11 were always personal attacks. The mainstream never contested the actual "facts" movies like Loose Change presented. Or so it seemed. After watching Screw Loose Change, I delved into the world of 9/11 Truth debunking. Among my favorites are the Screw Loose Change Blog and 9/11 Myths Finally, someone was answered all these pertinent questions with something that was a bit foreign to me... facts agreed upon by the experts. There are no facts in the 9/11 Truth Movement. Just a lot of theories, which eventually break down to "hey, we're just asking questions" if someone questions the validity of such. No structural, civil, or any engineers agree with the truthers. Yet, most of my friends will try to explain the hard physics involved in structural collapses. None of these people are engineers, physicists, or even in a scientific field, for that matter. Someone's supposed to take their word over an expert's? The truthers will just tell you that all the experts are "in on it." Yeah, sure. Every engineer in the world is complicit in the government's murder of 3,000 people. And so are the firemen, who apparently ordered Larry Silverstein to "pull" Building 7. The truthers' misrepresentation of Silverstein's quote is one of the most popular "facts" to spit out, but in doing so, you are effectively in agreement that firefighters were not only involved in the controlled demolition of WTC7, but they are also aiding and abetting in the government's cover-up. Yeah, every firefighter who was out there on 9/11 is going to be complicit in the MURDER OF 343 OF THEIR FALLEN BROTHERS! To quote Loose Change co-creator Jason Bermas, "the firefighters are paid off." This is absolute horseshit, which brings me to why I've formally distanced myself from this sorry excuse for a movement. Loose Change, 9/11 Mysteries, Alex Jones, and all the other kooks out there are fking lying about, distorting, and misrepresenting the facts to further their personal agendas. And what is their agenda, you ask? Money, in the words of Shaggy 2 Dope, "mutha f*kin btch a money." Not only are they desecrating 3,000 graves, but they are profiting off of it. That, my friends, makes me sick to my fkin stomach. Some may think that this is just a big personal attack, and that I'm not presenting enough facts. I honestly don't give a f**k because the information is out there. I love how all the truthers, myself included for a time, brag about how they've done all the "research." Well my friends, research doesn't involve looking exclusively at other 9/11 conspiracy sites! Research involves looking at things from both sides of the spectrum, and making your own decisions. Check out the links I've listed above, or google "Screw 9/11 Mysteries" and "Screw Loose Change." Continued...
7/16/2015 10:19:37 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Continued... Controlled demolitions: absolute bullshit. Now, I know there are some legitimate inconsistencies in the story that can't be proven false. My problem, and your problem as well, is that we have been blatantly misled by people who are only interested in selling dvds and t-shirts. This is supposed to be a truth movement. At this point, Alex Jones could pull every smoking gun out of a that proves without question that 9/11 was an inside job, but it will never excuse the fact that he had lie so blatantly. Fk you, fk avery & bermas, fk 9/11 mysteries, and f**k every true believer who goes out there and tells people that they've "done their research." I don't know what the future holds for the student group. For the time being, I'm gonna continue to fill out the paperwork and other such presidential duties because I take my responsibilities and promises very seriously. But you won't see me hand out one more 9/11 pamphlet, or ever utter the phrase "9/11 was an inside job" ever again. I'd personally like to see the group transition away from fringe conspiracy theories and focus more on local issues (God knows, there's enough corruption in Albany, alone), but I might get outvoted by truthers. If that is the case, I cordially invite any of the truthers who think I'm totally wrong to step up and take the reigns. The group is, in part, my creation, but I'll gladly abdicate the throne if all everyone wants to do is continue the truther nonsense. Oh yeah, what sent me over the edge today? I watched Screw 9/11 Mysteries, which basically adds comments to the original movie. Like Screw Loose Change, every single theory spat out is immediately disproven with formal citations from the NIST report, scientific journals, and the experts themselves. By the end, the whole controlled demolition theory is a complete joke, as the film can't even keep their own story straight. 9/11 Mysteries ends very tragically with a phone call from one of the victims inside the WTC. You may have seen it, it's the guy who's frantically describing the situation to a loved one, but then suddenly, the building starts to collapse and all you hear are his last words, agonizing screams. The creators of this propaganda movie did this intentionally, to play on your emotions right after feeding you all their bullshit theories. But as I watched this film again, this time with the annotations, I knew that the creators of this movie used that poor guy's dying moments for their own selfish gains of selling dvds and perpetuating myths that do nothing but denigrate the lives lost on 9/11/01. Change of heart? My heart's always been in the right place. I was just cheating myself of making an informed judgment on all the information available. I'm done, thanks.
7/16/2015 10:25:40 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 65, joined May. 2008	we have all seen those submarine movies when a sub gets hit by depth charges so the commander of the sub shoots up clothing and dead bodies that were killed and all kinds of things in the sub to make the Germans think the sub is dead. I'm surprised the Mossad phony art students that live there that summer that why you're the inside of the towers to make it look like a plane hit the Wiley coyote thingy didn't add a few dead bodies to the mix and blow them right after they blew out the frickin landing gear. Hitler did it killed a bunch of Poles dress them up in German uniforms on said the Polls attacked the Germans
7/16/2015 10:32:42 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from 57channels: we have all seen those submarine movies when a sub gets hit by depth charges so the commander of the sub shoots up clothing and dead bodies that were killed and all kinds of things in the sub to make the Germans think the sub is dead. I'm surprised the Mossad phony art students that live there that summer that why you're the inside of the towers to make it look like a plane hit the Wiley coyote thingy didn't add a few dead bodies to the mix and blow them right after they blew out the frickin landing gear. Hitler did it killed a bunch of Poles dress them up in German uniforms on said the Polls attacked the Germans I'm surprised your still here making a complete a** of not only yourself, but the entire truth movement as well. Thanks. And please continue!
7/16/2015 10:34:49 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 65, joined May. 2008	hey there word German rabble sheeple the bought Hitler's lies unsaid we got invade Poland they killed our boys we going to invade Poland same thing here we've got American rebel Sheeple bought the big 9 11 hoax thinking some Arabs hijacked for jetliners so now they're screaming we got to invade Afghanistan and Iraq same f****** thing.we got 3 of them right here on DateHookup.datingwho really aren't that stupid but have sold out to the powers that be for that almighty buck
7/16/2015 10:36:47 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 65, joined May. 2008	all there I go again telling the truth telling it like it is no illusions for 57 channels there's evil out there I see it I hear it and I smell it
7/16/2015 10:39:01 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from 57channels: hey there word German rabble sheeple the bought Hitler's lies unsaid we got invade Poland they killed our boys we going to invade Poland same thing here we've got American rebel Sheeple bought the big 9 11 hoax thinking some Arabs hijacked for jetliners so now they're screaming we got to invade Afghanistan and Iraq same f****** thing.we got 3 of them right here on DateHookup.datingwho really aren't that stupid but have sold out to the powers that be for that almighty buck
7/16/2015 11:08:56 AM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
higgy51 Navarro, CA 61, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from 57channels: SRV you know the evidence is so unbelievably overwhelming that no f**** planes hit the big towers that one would think they would have killed a few Arabs and stuck them in the tower and blew them out the other end with the landing gear to try to make us think that planes hit the towers???? Oh, so you think that you and srv are on the same wavelength do you? You say no NO NONE NO planes hit any of the Towers....yet srv differs (not surprising though) Quote from srv63: Do i need to spell it out for you higgy as i need to for the parrot? A plane hit the south tower** BUT NOT A COMMERCIAL PASSENGER PLANE. Oh dear 57..oh dear.
7/16/2015 2:26:29 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 65, joined May. 2008	Perhaps it is merely a coincidence that just prior to 9/11 Cathleen P. Black, who has family connections to the CIA and Pentagon and is president of Hearst Magazines, the owner of Popular Mechanics, fired the magazine's editor in chief and several senior veteran staff members and installed James B. Meigs and Benjamin Chertoff, a cousin of Bush administration factotum Michael Chertoff. It was Meigs and Benjamin Chertoff who produced the magazine report that Griffin has eviscerated. http://www.creators.com/opinion/paul-craig-roberts/9-11-and-the-evidence.html God Almighty.........Jim Meigs and Ben Chertoff installed to lie their f**king asses off for Popular Mechanics. Fire the good guys, put in no brain robots that can spew feed propaganda to the sheep out grazing in Merica.......and keep a straight face all the while they are using straw man arguments.
7/16/2015 2:29:57 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
57channels Bettendorf, IA 65, joined May. 2008	Despite widespread belief that Osama bin Laden was responsible for the attack, the evidence we have is a suspect video declared to be "bogus" by Bruce Lawrence, perhaps the leading American expert on bin Laden. The U.S. government has never produced the promised report on bin Laden's responsibility. When the Taliban offered to hand over bin Laden on presentation of evidence, the U.S. government had no evidence to deliver — thus the invasion of Afghanistan. The fragility of the NIST report is astonishing. The report succeeded because people accepted its assurances without examination. Griffin shows that the Popular Mechanics report consists of special pleading, circular reasoning, appeals to the authority of the NIST report, straw men and internal contradictions in the report itself. =========================================================== David Ray Griffin and Paul Craig Roberts...........2 Patriots who long for accountability and the truth. Who knows?????? Perhaps they care about Americas future generations huh??????
7/16/2015 4:37:40 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from higgy51: Oh dear 57..oh dear. Hmmm parrot, so your going to stoop to the level of a snake which you are by taking my conclusions and 57's and since there is a difference you are going to try and play off of it? A cowards tactic used by a desperate coward
7/16/2015 4:38:31 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from 57channels: The fragility of the NIST report is astonishing. The report succeeded because people accepted its assurances without examination. You haven't even read it. Would you like to discuss the details of the NIST report in depth? You're just parroting memes without any real understanding. You couldn't even comprehend the NIST report if you posts are any gauge of your limitations. I'm up for it an in-depth discussion on the technical issues, but thing is, are you?
7/16/2015 4:40:48 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63: Hmmm parrot, so your going to stoop to the level of a snake which you are by taking my conclusions and 57's and since there is a difference you are going to try and play off of it? A cowards tactic used by a desperate coward Despite all that blather, Higgy's right. It's not a cowardly tactic as 57 is pretending that you share the same hypothesis. He just called him on it. Try to read to understand, not read so you can come up with a retarded insult. That's just blatant space wasting. I love how you call him a coward yet you haven't the stones to prove any of your ridiculous claims. What's up with that shit? [Edited 7/16/2015 4:43:00 PM ]
7/16/2015 4:46:54 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from higgy51: You couldn't even mop the floors with a mop, you are that dumb, you'd use the wrong end. So, until we can prove that a fuselage of a plane is not made of tin, then that one is made of tin? Tip, go to any website site and type in construction of a fuselage and you will see that they are not made of tin. Debate over. THEY ARE NOT MADE OF TIN. His desperation is obvious.......and funny. "A purple frog lives on Mars. I'm right until you prove me wrong." Kiddy tactics.
7/16/2015 11:13:37 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from 57channels: Despite widespread belief that Osama bin Laden was responsible for the attack, the evidence we have is a suspect video declared to be "bogus" by Bruce Lawrence, perhaps the leading American expert on bin Laden. The U.S. government has never produced the promised report on bin Laden's responsibility. When the Taliban offered to hand over bin Laden on presentation of evidence, the U.S. government had no evidence to deliver — thus the invasion of Afghanistan. The fragility of the NIST report is astonishing. The report succeeded because people accepted its assurances without examination. Griffin shows that the Popular Mechanics report consists of special pleading, circular reasoning, appeals to the authority of the NIST report, straw men and internal contradictions in the report itself. =========================================================== David Ray Griffin and Paul Craig Roberts...........2 Patriots who long for accountability and the truth. Who knows?????? Perhaps they care about Americas future generations huh?????? Given the propensity of which you have to ask so many questions 57channels. And that you care so much about America's future generations. For starters, let us share a fact or two regarding David Ray Griffin's book "The 911 Commission Report: Omission and Distortions... Linky... https://truthersaresanitychallenged.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/more-lies-and-distortions-from-david-ray-griffin/ And please subscribe. Our future generations are counting on ya!
7/16/2015 11:18:29 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from tragicparrot: Given the propensity of which you have to ask so many questions 57channels. And that you care so much about America's future generations. For starters, let us share a fact or two regarding David Ray Griffin's book "The 911 Commission Report: Omission and Distortions... Linky... https://truthersaresanitychallenged.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/more-lies-and-distortions-from-david-ray-griffin/ And please subscribe. Our future generations are counting on ya! Subscribed! Good Blog Tragic!
7/16/2015 11:18:46 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from class5: Despite all that blather, Higgy's right. It's not a cowardly tactic as 57 is pretending that you share the same hypothesis. He just called him on it. Try to read to understand, not read so you can come up with a retarded insult. That's just blatant space wasting. I love how you call him a coward yet you haven't the stones to prove any of your ridiculous claims. What's up with that shit? I find it humorous that you and your shill buddies have 0% stones of telling us truthers why our FACTS are wrong but yet you panty wastes bullshit fantasy land explanations of 9/11 are ludicrous. What's wrong shill, your momma possesses more stones than yourself?
7/16/2015 11:22:11 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from srv63: I find it humorous that you and your shill buddies have 0% stones of telling us truthers why our FACTS are wrong but yet you panty wastes bullshit fantasy land explanations of 9/11 are ludicrous. What's wrong shill, your momma possesses more stones than yourself? Great comeback srv! About those FACTS your referring to?
7/16/2015 11:22:31 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from class5: His desperation is obvious.......and funny. "A purple frog lives on Mars. I'm right until you prove me wrong." Kiddy tactics. Do you know for a fact that purple frogs don't live on mars creampuff? I'm sure your fancy education makes you an authority on that subject as well
7/16/2015 11:23:50 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63: I find it humorous that you and your shill buddies have 0% stones of telling us truthers why our FACTS are wrong but yet you panty wastes bullshit fantasy land explanations of 9/11 are ludicrous. What's wrong shill, your momma possesses more stones than yourself? What a moronic post. Whose arsehole did you pull that junk from? You've been more than adequately debunked and you are just carrying on like a petulant douchebag. How's the proof that the aircraft part is made from tin coming along? How's the proof of the rust coming along? How's the proof of the primer coming along? All claims you've made without any form of supporting evidence. F**k off wanker, no-one believes your stupid lies and bullshit stories.
7/16/2015 11:24:51 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63: Do you know for a fact that purple frogs don't live on mars creampuff? I'm sure your fancy education makes you an authority on that subject as well And of course, as always you are to stupid to understand the point. What a stupid response, and it is quite telling that you could not address the real point in my post. You are a waste of oxygen. [Edited 7/16/2015 11:26:07 PM ]
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innocentmind Orlando, FL 32, joined Jan. 2015	interesting....
7/16/2015 11:32:51 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from tragicparrot: Great comeback srv! About those FACTS your referring to? Facts? Ok, for starters explain to me why the area around and including the plane ID numbers on that piece of fuselage found on the roof of WTC5 is freshly spray painted with a gray primer but yet the rest of that fuselage has no protective coating of paint on it to protect it from the elements. Instead the rest of the fuselage is weather beaten and RUSTING. Even a dumb assed, double talking shill CANNOT deny the FACT that the plane ID number area is DIFFERENT in color from the rest of the fuselage. Give it your best shot shills but as usual, i'm convinced you ALL will come up way short
7/16/2015 11:34:35 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from srv63: Do you know for a fact that purple frogs don't live on mars creampuff? I'm sure your fancy education makes you an authority on that subject as well But lets hold off a bit. You seem to have knowledge of purple frogs inhabiting Mars. If you can you elaborate on this, it would most certainly be a break from your support of 57channels "hologram" theory.
7/16/2015 11:41:00 PM	WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from srv63: Facts? Ok, for starters explain to me why the area around and including the plane ID numbers on that piece of fuselage found on the roof of WTC5 is freshly spray painted with a gray primer but yet the rest of that fuselage has no protective coating of paint on it to protect it from the elements. Instead the rest of the fuselage is weather beaten and RUSTING. Even a dumb assed, double talking shill CANNOT deny the FACT that the plane ID number area is DIFFERENT in color from the rest of the fuselage. Give it your best shot shills but as usual, i'm convinced you ALL will come up way short How about you srv63 provide supporting evidence for the questions you've just asked? And since when did a tin fuselage ever have windows?

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