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naprinciple
West Plains, MO
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do you drive???
own a vehicle?
go to the doctor?
buy some food and drugs?
i see you wear glasses....
i assume you wear clothes when not posing for pics.
do you wear shoes?
do you use an outhouse or do you have running water? HOT water?
or do you PAY to have water delivered? by truck? or horse???
i see you on dh almost everyday that i am here.....do you have 'free' internet?
there must be cables and/or satellite handy????
do you live alone? wife? girlfriend/boyfriend? kids? do they visit you or do you
visit them???
ill bet there are roads and hiways not too far from where you live 'off the grid' for free.
What does any of this matter? Do you assume because I oppose government violence, I'm not allowed to shop or buy things?
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shylywilling
Medford, OR
55, joined Jan. 2008
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NOTHING is actually ever free....there is ALWAYS a price to be paid.
why dont you tell us what is a 'free society', and explain just exactly how a 'free
society' is implemented and how it maintains itself.
I happily will but:
Put on your big panties and fess up people. You know how to live as communists, or do you charge your family a fee for your participation in their best interests?
We have the benefit of ancient wisdom that has warned us of the consequences of a resource management system of private property capitalism. It is time we admit our stunted immaturity of the hypocrisy of conflicting paradigms. One cannot be an agent of self service and a patriot, parent, leader or partner of any kind also. The two are opposing interests.
The law of a harmless intent and twelve years of standard education followed by twelve years of public service at whatever harmless intended endeavor available of one's choice, and at thirty years old and plugged fully world trained and equipped and peaking in one's profession, one if it were physically possible, one could merely retire and contribute no more then a harmless existence and it would be insignificant. It is a fact that production and efficiency dramatically increase with worker satisfaction.
We have also been given the ancient wisdom on how to prioritize our LORD God provided resources.
1. Relieve all suffering.
2. Nurture growth and evolution.
3. Recreate.
4. Conservation.
A democracy will suffice for the logistical purposes of government. For instance, in situations of limited supply.
Hypothetically - My family has homesteaded on Alcatraz Is. My family would undoubtedly have to relocate in favor of the island's greater use, ie.. public facility, more people more time etc..
Think about this, does any one really have to pay you to do what you love to do, or are you paying to do it?
In our current private property capitalistic system of resource management, just one percent of the population hoards better then 90% of the global resources while the remaining 99% of the population is enslaved to competing for the remaining less then 10% of the global resources.
Private property capitalism is the "forbidden fruit" and is the enemy of state.
I have been given unto a parable to share.
We have 20 racers that split into two separate groups for ten-lap timed qualifying races. The ten in group-A beat and bang their way all the way to the checker flag and some may not even make it while even the winner has been damaged and progress and performance slowed. Group-B runs nose to tail like a freight train right to and beyond the checker. Not even a scratch at the finish on any of the ten competitors in group-B. The winner of Group A has a slower qualifying time/speed then even the last place competitor in the unblemished cooperatively aerodynamically advantaged group B.
Group-A displayed Laissez faire capitalism and raced only for personal victory at all cost even at a personal risk sustained damage in effort to beat and or eliminate competitors. Group-B displayed the democratic Christian communist principle. One for all and all for one. The entire group-B outperformed even the winner of group-A.
The entire group of capitalists do not qualify in the top ten performers. All ten democratic communists survive and thrive.
Cast of Characters
Group A: (Embryo of gods)
1st place through 9th place.....The elite one percenters. They start up front in the newest and most advanced proven equipment and are virtually unchallenged the entire race. Includes some passengers which otherwise would not be in this group. Senior public and corporate administrative executives. The Vatican.
10th place......The other ninety nine percent of the population. Various stages of upper middle economic classes, surplus labor, economically disenfranchised and physically disadvantaged classes. The enslaved classes. Many in this group have no idea that they are limited to at best the front seat of the last car by the deliberate intentions and leverages of the one percent advantaged. Many have been tricked into believing that they are unfairly limited by and supporting their fellow enslaved passengers in the back seat instead of the one percent. Nobody in this car can enjoy the ride as it is a constant uncivil battle to just maintain a seat in hopes of an enjoyable ride.
Group B: (Infant of LORD God)
Equal citizens of civilization. Mature, evolved, and survived.
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rufftreasure
Fairmont, MN
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Naprinciple
She's just jealous that she's a slave and can't enjoy the freedoms that you do because of wise decisions
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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this one is definitely on my booklist. i love reading books but my poor vision has really slowed me down. i read more on line now.
but this one looks so interesting..............
Pick up the JUST PUBLISHED "Stealth Invasion: Muslim Conquest Through Immigration and the Resettlement Jihad" and learn why President Trump is RIGHT to protect the American people!
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Stealth Invasion: Muslim Conquest Through Immigration and the Resettlement Jihad
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Americans are shocked by ongoing news reports chronicling growing chaos in Europe, where massive Muslim migration is wreaking havoc on the continent – including horrendous acts of mass terrorism, an epidemic of rape and sexual assault against European women, and large, jihadist-rich enclaves where even police are hesitant to enter.
Yet, few realize that America is heading down the same suicidal path.
As veteran investigative journalist Leo Hohmann documents in Stealth Invasion: Muslim Conquest through Immigration and Resettlement Jihad, an international network of mostly Muslim Brotherhood-linked activists has been building its ranks within the United States for more than three decades, aided by a U.S. immigration system seemingly obsessed with welcoming as many unassimilable migrants with anti-Western values as possible. As a result, largely secret plans for major population changes in hundreds of U.S. cities and towns are already being implemented.
As Stealth Invasion reveals, the Muslim Brotherhood has a well-defined strategy for conquering America, not necessarily with violent jihadist attacks – although we should expect those to increase – but through more subtle means collectively called "civilization jihad."
Very simply, civilization jihad calls for changing a nation by changing its people and its values – gradually, over time.
Stealth Invasion connects the dots between the problems of growing violence and unrest that have plagued Europe and what is now unfolding across America. The terror attacks on Chattanooga, Orlando, San Bernardino, St. Cloud, Minnesota, and the Chelsea area of Manhattan were all carried out by Muslim immigrants, or, in the case of San Bernardino and Orlando, by sons of Muslim immigrants. A surprising number of foiled attacks have also been plotted since 9/11 by Muslim refugees and immigrants.
Stealth Invasion blows the lid off a corrupt, fraudulent program that has been secretly dumping Third World refugees, many of them radical, on American cities for three decades. Readers will meet the people and groups behind this shadowy resettlement network, which starts at the United Nations and includes the White House, the U.S. State Department, some surprising church groups, and corporate honchos involved in everything from investment banking and meatpacking, to Florida vacations and yogurt manufacturing.
Americans have been kept largely in the dark about the radical plans to permanently transform their nation. Until now.
Stealth Invasion uncovers how various cities have become refugee hot spots and examines grassroots uprisings where citizens have challenged this secret cabal and won. Armed with knowledge of the government’s methods for dealing with local resettlement backlash, Hohmann provides details on how concerned Americans can most effectively respond.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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Here is an EXCELLENT post from an ex Muslim... #MuslimBan
"I am not going to dwell on the legality of Trump’s statement because it is already established. Apart from the fact that the American Constitution does not give any rights to foreigners, according to the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, “Whenever the president finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he deems necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens.”
The point I want to make is that by allowing Muslims to enter the country and granting them citizenship and naturalization the American government is violating the Constitution.
Let us read the 45 words that constitute The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and see how not only it does not protect Islam, it actually requires its total ban.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances“.
This amendment protects freedom of speech, press, religion, assembly and petition. These are inalienable rights of the citizens and it is the responsibility of the government to protect them.
Islam is opposed to all the above. Not only no Islamic country tolerates freedom of speech and press, Muslims, even when they are a minority in a non-Muslim majority country, demand to curtail the freedom of speech of others and want the death penalty for those who criticize Islam and its inhumane teachings.
In Iran, several members of the Bahai community are rotting in jail for the crime of assembling to discuss their religious matters and Christian pastors are jailed for preaching the Gospels to Muslims. In Saudi Arabia, Christians can be put to jail if they meet in each other’s homes to pray. Under Islam religious minorities have little rights, and sometimes they don’t even have the right to live. This is the religion Muslims want to bring to America and impose on others through terror.
Coming to the United States is not a right of the seven billion inhabitants of this planet. It is a privilege that can be given only by the government of the United State. And the government must exert due diligence that those who enter the country pose no threat to the people and the Constitution.
There have been dozens of terrorist attacks on the Americans by people who call themselves Muslims, resulting in thousands of death and injuries. So it is undeniable that a certain percentage of Muslims do pose a threat to the lives of Americans.
Islam is also a belief system that opposes the American Constitution and strives to overthrow it. If a Muslim wishes to be faithful to his or her religion he must not accept the rule of non-believers (Q.9:23). They are ordered to “not obey the disbelievers and strive against them with the utmost strenuousness (Q. 25:52) because Muslims are made an exalted nation that they may rule over others (Q.2:143). Muslims are, therefore, required to “fight the unbelievers, and kill them wherever you find them until there is no more fitnah (dissension, resistance, disbelief) and until religion is for Allah” i.e. Islam and “unbelievers desist in their unbelief.” (Q. 2:191-193)
It is clear that Islam is not just incompatible with the American Constitution, but antithetical to it and it is the duty of every Muslim to strive, with their words, wealth and body to overthrow any system of government that is not Islamic and establish the Islamic rule.
Consequently, it is the responsibility of the US government to ban Islam altogether. The government is obliged to protect the Constitution and the lives of the Americans, not the sensitivity of a foreign group of people who wants to destroy the constitution and kill Americans. Why is this not clear to everyone?"
- Said Abdullahi (Ex Muslim)
January 29
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naprinciple
West Plains, MO
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Naprinciple
She's just jealous that she's a slave and can't enjoy the freedoms that you do because of wise decisions
She's pulling a post and run. She appears to have no intention of actually discussing anything.
@Clarity
Go back to posting memes and cut and paste articles.
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shylywilling
Medford, OR
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Oh no, humans are coming to steal what we "rightfully stole" oh my! If you want private property, find an island, there is no place for selfish children in civilization.
I like the idea of ending private property capitalism on an April 1st. Give some real meaning to a commemorative day. (H)Armageddon = Harm age done.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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From Jan 26 2017
A new initiative called Stop Operation Soros (SOS) is launching in the Balkan nation of Macedonia to counter the influence of globalist billionaire George Soros.
The founders of the group called on all “free-minded citizens” to join them in the “fight against one-mindedness in the civil sector, which is devised and led by George Soros,” reports a Slovenian newspaper.
Soros-funded non-government organizations have monopolized civil society in Macedonia and used their influence to suppress dissenting views, said SOS cofounder Nikola Srbov.
“The Open Society Foundation, operating under the Soros umbrella, used its funding and personnel to support violent processes in Macedonia,” he said in a press conference Tuesday. “That is unacceptable and goes beyond the principles of civic organizing.”
Soros set up the Open Society Foundation in in the 1980s with the stated goal of helping former Soviet bloc countries transition from communism, but in reality, the foundation is used to destabilize governments and foment discontent within countries.
And Macedonia isn’t the first country that’s turned against Soros.
Earlier this month, Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban announced that the Hungarian government would begin cracking down on any organizations linked to Soros.
“In every country, they will want to displace Soros,” Orban said in December. “In the coming year, Soros and his forces will be squeezed out.”
In 2014, Soros openly admitted on CNN that the OSF was involved in the violent overthrow of Ukraine’s government, which resulted in Russia banning Soros and his NGOs from the country the following year, calling him a “security threat” to the former Soviet nation.
“It was found that the activity of the Open Society Foundations and the Open Society Institute Assistance Foundation represents a threat to the foundations of the constitutional system of the Russian Federation and the security of the state,” reads the Russian press statement.
As nationalism continues to rise around the world fueled by President Trump’s election, it’s reasonable to assume that this won’t be the last instance a European country kicks out Soros and his shadowy groups.
https://www.rt.com/news/374241-stop-operation-soros-movement-macedonia/
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shylywilling
Medford, OR
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Soros and his "shadowy" partners are champion private property capitalists whom inspire to achieve the ultimate outcome of a private property system of capitalism, that is, to be the sole entity that owns every thing and every body. This of course would not be a government entity but rather with certainty it would be a privately owned corporation.
I have offered you a legitimate alternative to discuss clarity, what is your interest?
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annamally
Santa Clarita, CA
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)
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naprinciple
West Plains, MO
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What's to discuss ? No one cares if you want to shit in a hole in your back yard .
She implies I don't have the right to buy things or use services, because I oppose government.
Why do you talk to me at all?
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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What does any of this matter? Do you assume because I oppose government violence, I'm not allowed to shop or buy things?
ohemmgeee nap!
why are you pulling a citydimwitlies tactic? and then one of her bestiebutties has to
jump in and rescue you??? really? you have lowered your standards....so sad!
anyway................
She's pulling a post and run. She appears to have no intention of actually discussing anything.
@Clarity
Go back to posting memes and cut and paste articles.
do you seriously think i just sit here and wait for your (or anyones) response? do i now
have to account for all my time and all i do....
i actually read those articles i posted, i also got up and ran (walked fast) up the stairs to get a stamp for a piece of mail(do you use the postal service?) also went potty (is that allowed?) and put on some water to boil for some hot tea.....then i came back to see IF you had responded.....NOPE so i checked out and read in a couple of other forums.....sooooooooooooooooooo does that account sufficiently for my slow response back?
so i questioned you originally at about 7:52am...here we are an hour and a half and you
have totally evaded the question....THAT is a citydimwitlies tactic. and ruffles can go
puff her weed and turn up her music and kiss citydimwitlies and sinoman's asses (and anyone else she chooses)(their love fest in other threads is gross) for all i care
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loving91390
Santa Clarita, CA
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She implies I don't have the right to buy things or use services, because I oppose government.
Why do you talk to me at all?
Frankly I don't know why anyone does .....
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naprinciple
West Plains, MO
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Frankly I don't know why anyone does .....
Yet YOU do
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
66, joined Oct. 2008
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She implies I don't have the right to buy things or use services, because I oppose government.
Why do you talk to me at all?
oh, nice............
another citydimwitlies robotic tactics.
i DID NOT imply anything of the sort. i asked how you plan or intend on living 'free'
i actually asked because i have a serious interest you dumbass.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
66, joined Oct. 2008
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Coming to America is a privilege, not a right!
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naprinciple
West Plains, MO
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oh, nice............
another citydimwitlies robotic tactics.
i DID NOT imply anything of the sort. i asked how you plan or intend on living 'free'
i actually asked because i have a serious interest you dumbass.
I apologize for my poor assumption.
I think I took your inquiry poorly due to the made up things, and absurd things in your questions.
For instances:
" assume you wear clothes when not posing for pics."
I don't wear glasses and I don't take pictures in any state of undress.
If you really have an interest in knowing anything about me, start my not making stuff up
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longbobby
Lufkin, TX
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She's pulling a post and run. She appears to have no intention of actually discussing anything.
@Clarity
Go back to posting memes and cut and paste articles.
Drive by posts, eh? Sounds like clarity is using Rule #6 of the marxist, 25 Rules of Disinformation.
6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism reasoning — simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent’s viewpoint.
http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/the-25-rules-of-disinformation/
Now why would an alleged "Christian" like clarity be using the marxist, 25 Rules of Disinformation?
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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This is the kind of crap that will get the focus of my scope dead on the BLM hate group.The woman in this article needs to be locked up or shot.
Semper Fi !!!
During a protest over the weekend, Black Lives Matter called for white people to give them their possessions and then proceeded to call for “killing people,” and “killing the White House.”
This outrageous speaker makes numerous highly inflammatory remarks, including:
“F*** white supremacy, f*** the U.S. empire, f*** your imperialist a** lives. That s*** gotta go.”
“And we need to start killing people. First off, we need to start killing the White House. The White House must die. The White House, your f****** White House, your f****** Presidents, they must go! F*** the White House.”
“White people, give your f****** money, your f****** house, your f****** property, we need it f****** all,” as another protester responds “reparations!”
“Pay the f*** up, pay the f*** up. It ain’t just your f****** time, its your f****** money, and now your f******* life is devoted to social change,”
Then the speaker goes to to state that she is a preschool teacher. What parent in their right mind would want this person around their child?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3519390/posts?page=18
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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I apologize for my poor assumption.
I think I took your inquiry poorly due to the made up things, and absurd things in your questions.
For instances:
" assume you wear clothes when not posing for pics."
I don't wear glasses and I don't take pictures in any state of undress.
If you really have an interest in knowing anything about me, start my not making stuff up
ok...............
THAT is another technique used by citydimwitlies which is how she earned that nick name...
i think youve spent way toooo much time kissing up to her and other dimwitlooneylibs which
is what i suspect has happened to ruffles as well. she used to have some common sense
any way...
please tell me what it is that i 'made up'????
i admit i was attempting a bit of humor but at least i did give you the benefit of doubt
when i said...."assume you wear clothes when not posing for pics."
the reason for making that assumption is that you must buy clothes and other items...
which means you pay a tax, not to mention you pay others to produce the clothes and shoes
you wear...DUH! common sense. so we (none of us) can ever be totally free.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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nap.......my interest is a totally personal one and i dont claim to be all knowing on the
subject. i have 4 living siblings and they all have a bunch of offspring and we are at the
very least 75-80% all in for 'getting off the grid'. we have been working on it for more
than 5 years. we are all co-investors in buying some property and setting up housekeeping,
kinda like a commune or co-op. cant remember exactly what its called. anyway it wont
happen in my lifetime unless i live in to my 80's or 90's. but its fun and i hope one day
my kids will benefit. but we have to make sure everyone is learning the real life skills.
do you know anyone who sews anymore? or actually works on cars or plumbing or .......
you name it. im serious! we are serious! when it happens, we, they will be 100% self
sufficient.
THAT is why i was sincere in my questions, tho i can see why you might think i was a bit
persnickety. you cannot really claim in all honesty that
you are living 'off the grid', if you rely on anyone else for any services...just a fact,
as i understand it.
to see you sounding like the looneyleftys here was disappointing. if thats where youre
heading...good luck!
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shylywilling
Medford, OR
55, joined Jan. 2008
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It has been my experience that one's whom view themselves as enjoying unearned advantages and leverages over his/her fellow man will be the most cunningly elusive when it comes time to discuss the issues of equitable and just resource management.
Big Panties is just a metaphor for being mature. Maturely addressing the issue is a clothing optional endeavor.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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cnn WANTS MUSLIMS TO CALL A SPECIAL PHONE NUMBER TO TELL THEM HOW THEY WERE TRAUMATIZED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP'S TRAVEL BAN. TIME TO LIGHT UP THEIR PHONES AND LET THEM KNOW HOW MUCH SAFER WE YOU FEEL !!!!!
CNN: 646-535-9720
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naprinciple
West Plains, MO
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Call CNN and tell them you're tired of their fake news
I just choose not to watch them though.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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Friendly Reminder: Obama Selected The List Of Muslim Countries in Trump’s Executive Order
Matt Vespa |Posted: Jan 29, 2017 9:00 AM
As the Left and some Republicans lose their minds over President Donald J. Trump’s executive order on immigration, let’s not forget that the list of concerned countries that the Trump administration outlined in the order is based on the one signed into law by the former Obama administration. So, it looks like the Obama White House set the groundwork (viaMic News):
According to the draft copy of Trump's executive order, the countries whose citizens are barred entirely from entering the United States is based on a bill that Obama signed into law in December 2015.
Obama signed the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act as part of an omnibus spending bill. The legislation restricted access to the Visa Waiver Program, which allows citizens from 38 countries who are visiting the United States for less than 90 days to enter without a visa.
Though outside groups such as the American Civil Liberties Union and NIAC Action — the sister organization of the National Iranian American Council — opposed the act, the bipartisan bill passed through Congress with little pushback.
At the initial signing of the restrictions, foreigners who would normally be deemed eligible for a visa waiver were denied if they had visited Iran, Syria, Sudan or Iraq in the past five years or held dual citizenship from one of those countries.
In February 2016, the Obama administration added Libya, Somali and Yemen to the list of countries one could not have visited — but allowed dual citizens of those countries who had not traveled there access to the Visa Waiver Program. Dual citizens of Syria, Sudan, Iraq and Iran are still ineligible, however.
So, in a nutshell, Obama restricted visa waivers for those seven Muslim-majority countries — Iran, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, Libya and Yemen — and now, Trump is looking to bar immigration and visitors from the same list of countries.
Yet, I don’t remember the Left freaking out over this. I certainly don’t remember them going indiscriminately insane when the Obama White House stopped processing Iraqi visas for six months in 2011 when—surprise! —Al-Qaeda operatives feigned refugee status to get relocated to Bowling Green, Kentucky. And yes, some of the visa applicants who were screwed over worked as intelligence assets and interpreters for the U.S. military, according to ABC News. But remember, there was a Democrat in the Oval Office, so it was okay at the time.
Here’s the text of the order.
Via The Atlantic this is what it will and will not do. Most importantly, the publication adds that this technically isn’t a Muslim ban, as people from Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim country, can still visit the country:
Who is affected?
For 120 days, the order bars the entry of any refugee who is awaiting resettlement in the U.S. It also prohibits all Syrian refugees from entering the U.S. until further notice. Additionally, it bans the citizens of seven countries—Iraq, Iran, Syria, Somalia, Sudan, Libya, and Yemen—from entering the U.S. on any visa category. This appears to include those individuals who are permanent residents of the U.S. (green-card holders) who may have been traveling overseas to visit family or for work—though their applications will be considered on a case-by-case basis, a senior administration official said Saturday.
Is this a Muslim ban?
Technically no. The ban includes seven majority Muslim countries, but by no means are these states the most populous Muslim countries, nor are they among the top sources of Muslim immigration to the U.S., nor have they produced terrorists in the same numbers as other Muslim countries not on the list.
So, it’s not really a Muslim ban and the nations that Trump listed are the ones that were drafted by Obama.
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annamally
Santa Clarita, CA
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AND .......
Syria
Lebanon
Libya
Kuwait
Iran
Iraq
Sudan
Yemen
You cannot enter these Countries if you have a stamp on your passport from Israel .
Oh the irony !
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annamally
Santa Clarita, CA
97, joined Feb. 2013
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Can someone quote my post .... Something City needs to learn .
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mr_bad_robot
Cincinnati, OH
42, joined Jul. 2014
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Clinton spent $1.2b to not be President. I spent nothing for the same result. Who's better at money management?
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nuffan
Kennesaw, GA
54, joined Mar. 2014
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Oh no, humans are coming to steal what we "rightfully stole" oh my! If you want private property, find an island, there is no place for selfish children in civilization.
I like the idea of ending private property capitalism on an April 1st. Give some real meaning to a commemorative day. (H)Armageddon = Harm age done.
You do realize private property extends beyond just owning land?
Your car is private property...your sofa is private property...
your clothing is private property...
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fallguy02379
Brockton, MA
53, joined Sep. 2011
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AND .......
Syria
Lebanon
Libya
Kuwait
Iran
Iraq
Sudan
Yemen
You cannot enter these Countries if you have a stamp on your passport from Israel .
Oh the irony !
However, international politics professor Fawaz Gerges at London School of Economics said comparisons between America and Arab-Israeli relations “fly in the face of reality”.
“Trump’s ban is a Muslim ban, based on religious discrimination and racial discrimination. The relationship between Israel and its Arab neighbours is one of war since 1947 - for the last 70 years. By trying to force comparison, it just flies in the face of reality, it’s apples and oranges, sky and sea,” he told The Independent.
“The boycott of Israel by Arab nations is a completely different thing. The Arab world offered Israel a kind of a deal - a Palestinian state in return for normalised political relations. But we are not talking about these small warring states, we are talking about the leader of the free world, the defender of human rights. What Trump has done has undermined America as a moral voice in the world."
READ MORE
The biggest danger to America is Donald Trump, not refugees
“We are talking about blocking poor countries, that are war torn, they don't have the means and the ability to retaliate - what kind of options do they have against the US? That’s why Trump has chosen these states - Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan aren’t on the list because they have options.”
The US citizen also discredited claims Barack Obama took a similar approach in 2011 when he temporarily increased vetting measures of Iraqi citizens travelling to the US.
“What we need to understand is there a qualitative difference between the measures put in place between the Obama administration and the blanket ban put in place by Tru
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-muslim-ban-travel-ban-israel-six-seven-countries-blocked-us-president-bar-israeli-arab-a7555756.html
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rufftreasure
Fairmont, MN
61, joined Jun. 2014
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The biggest danger to America is Donald Trump, not refugees
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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Can someone quote my post .... Something City needs to learn .
she blocked me too so cant help but she, just like failguy's post above....they are not
able to learn. they are just told everyday what to think and what their talking points
are.
Origin of Left and Right
Have you wondered why it is that Conservatives are called the "right" and Liberals are called the "left." By chance I stumbled upon this verse in the Bible: "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV). Thus sayeth the Lord. Amen.
Can't get any simpler than that.
And, now for a spelling lesson: The last four letters in American; I can. The last four letters in Republican; I can. The last four letters in Democrats; rats. End of lesson. Test to follow in November, 2016.
Remember, November 2016, was set aside as rodent extermination month.
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mrroscoereturns
Ochopee, FL
58, joined Oct. 2015
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Thanks Clarity.. One I had never seen before !
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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imo...as a parent it is our duty to TEACH our children how to study,
how to research, how to think....so that they can learn to
think for themselves.
whiney liberals crying until they get their way for 8 years finally getting told no and they don't know what to do with themselves.
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nuffan
Kennesaw, GA
54, joined Mar. 2014
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However, international politics professor Fawaz Gerges at London School of Economics said comparisons between America and Arab-Israeli relations “fly in the face of reality”.
“Trump’s ban is a Muslim ban, based on religious discrimination and racial discrimination. The relationship between Israel and its Arab neighbours is one of war since 1947 - for the last 70 years. By trying to force comparison, it just flies in the face of reality, it’s apples and oranges, sky and sea,” he told The Independent.
“The boycott of Israel by Arab nations is a completely different thing. The Arab world offered Israel a kind of a deal - a Palestinian state in return for normalised political relations. But we are not talking about these small warring states, we are talking about the leader of the free world, the defender of human rights. What Trump has done has undermined America as a moral voice in the world."
READ MORE
The biggest danger to America is Donald Trump, not refugees
“We are talking about blocking poor countries, that are war torn, they don't have the means and the ability to retaliate - what kind of options do they have against the US? That’s why Trump has chosen these states - Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan aren’t on the list because they have options.”
The US citizen also discredited claims Barack Obama took a similar approach in 2011 when he temporarily increased vetting measures of Iraqi citizens travelling to the US.
“What we need to understand is there a qualitative difference between the measures put in place between the Obama administration and the blanket ban put in place by Tru
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-muslim-ban-travel-ban-israel-six-seven-countries-blocked-us-president-bar-israeli-arab-a7555756.html
Trumps ban is a geopolitical ban....
It targets countries not religious groups....
That same religious group from a different region in the World is not banned...
The green card and approved non Americans in transit were covered by the recent federal court ruling...
The system works...and want to split hairs with Obama's actions compared to Trump fine...go to Clinton...go to Carter...The two previous democratic presidents...both did EXACTLY what Trump is doing...Clinton increased border security...Carter banned Iranians...and deported many who were here based on nationality not religion...just like Trump is doing based on nationality not religion...
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nuffan
Kennesaw, GA
54, joined Mar. 2014
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Puts it into perspective...
https://youtu.be/LPjzfGChGlE
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
66, joined Oct. 2008
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What BLM Really Thinks About White People
Terrorist Group Black Lives Matter: "We Need to Start Killing People"
BLM Protester calls for "Killing of White People" and for White People to Give them Our Money #sjw
https://youtu.be/4202ePmr9IU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4202ePmr9IU
BLM Finally Honest, Admits It Wants to Steal All White Peoples' Homes....
https://youtu.be/OA1qePWv110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA1qePWv110
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louie6332
Falkville, AL
75, joined Nov. 2011
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Here’s another link, though it may be to the same video: BLM supporter: White people, give us your money, your houses, and your lives: “White people, give us your money & house…we need to start killing people’ [well, duh, haven’t the Black hoodlums already been doing that while living off of tax money that Whites are forced to pay to the Federal Government at the point of a gun? And haven't the White housing they took over in the inner cities now trash? But Obama was working for them to move into the White suburbs and do the same to the White suburbs]; see the link:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/blacklivesmatter-supporter-we-need-to-start-killing-people.html
Ex-President Obama is now leading these BLM anti-Trump riots, protests funded by George Soros, which is treason. Obama is trying to start a Communist revolution in America. The Democratic Party, taken over by the Communist Party USA, is now fighting Trump on all fronts, including the congress, trying to block all of Trumps nominees. Congress is now evoking the nuclear option (rule change)to get around their blockage. The Democrats are fighting Trump in the streets with the BLM, in the courts with lawsuits, and in the Federal agencies with Obama appointees who are opposing Trump and having to be fired by Trump. They are fighting toe nail and tooth everything Trump is doing. Its a war. But Trump is going to win this war, he's a fighter. And the majority of the American people, including myself, stand behind him.
Louie
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naprinciple
West Plains, MO
48, joined Feb. 2014
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What BLM Really Thinks About White People
Terrorist Group Black Lives Matter: "We Need to Start Killing People"
BLM Protester calls for "Killing of White People" and for White People to Give them Our Money #sjw
https://youtu.be/4202ePmr9IU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4202ePmr9IU
BLM Finally Honest, Admits It Wants to Steal All White Peoples' Homes....
https://youtu.be/OA1qePWv110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA1qePWv110
Clarity, I am shocked you're posting an admitted Satanist as a source. Way to think outside the box
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
66, joined Oct. 2008
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i was actually more interested in the fact that the asinine blm anti trump protester is a
teacher hope she loses her job after that disgusting rant and violent threat not
just to trump but any white person.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
66, joined Oct. 2008
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PRAYER is BACK IN the WHITE HOUSE!!!!
anybody say AMEN! im happy to see this happening.
JOIN ----> President Trump's Prayer Team
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naprinciple
West Plains, MO
48, joined Feb. 2014
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Clarity, I'm no Satanist, but Styx offers an interesting point of view. No different than Pastor Dowell. I'm no Christian, but I appreciate his take on things too.
Nothing wrong with hearing a wide range of opinions and interpretations.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
66, joined Oct. 2008
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right! from both sides....
in a peaceful non threatening manner.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
66, joined Oct. 2008
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TRUMP WAS RIGHT! Look What Was Discovered About 20 Suspected Terrorists
Mary Kate Knorr | January 31, 2017
Activist Rally And March Calling For Closure Of Guantanamo Bay Detention Facility
The Daily Caller reported today that at least 20 suspected terrorists within the past three years were admitted to the United States either as immigrants or under refugee status.
All 20 immigrated from one of the seven countries on President Trump’s temporary ban list.
Check it out:
The Obama administration’s Department of Justice and Department of Homeland Security refused to make public the immigration status of individuals implicated in terrorism, so the exact number of immigrant terrorists is unknown.
However, the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration and the National Interest used publicly available information and identified at least 17 individuals from these seven nations that from March 2014 to June 2016 were implicated in terrorism. Eight of these are terrorists convicted for crimes mainly related to giving material support or attempting to give material support to ISIS…
Since June 2016, men from these seven countries temporarily banned by Trump have continued to cause terror. At least one individual was indicted for terrorism charges from a country temporarily banned from entering the U.S., and at least one was convicted of terrorism charges.
There have also been two perpetrators of stabbings that left a total 21 individuals injured. These stabbings were both committed by Somalian refugees, one was at a mall in St. Cloud, Minn., the other was at Ohio State University.
20 suspected terrorists is a pretty significant number.
It’s difficult to see where people are coming from when they claim this simply isn’t happening—it’s clearly happening.
The Daily Caller went on to say that Trump’s executive order also requires that the Department of Homeland Security release the immigration status of suspected terrorists. That information is projected to be released within the next 6 months.
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shylywilling
Medford, OR
55, joined Jan. 2008
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You do realize private property extends beyond just owning land?
Your car is private property...your sofa is private property...
your clothing is private property...
Of course you realize one can have possession of something and not own it, right? We have been provided with a beating heart, the will to survive, and an equipped to do so, if we so do as one. Private property in any form prevents us from that potential.
Well Clarity? With just a little integrity and accountability all that talent you possess could be a valuable asset instead of a capable liability.
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nuffan
Kennesaw, GA
54, joined Mar. 2014
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Of course you realize one can have possession of something and not own it, right? We have been provided with a beating heart, the will to survive, and an equipped to do so, if we so do as one. Private property in any form prevents us from that potential.
Well Clarity? With just a little integrity and accountability all that talent you possess could be a valuable asset instead of a capable liability.
Actually no you can't...
If you have personal possessions YOU OWN them PRIVATELY...
You want to live in a world where someone who works hard has exactly the same as someone who refuses to work at all...
GREAT...go find a country that will allow that...
It will never happen in the USA...
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
66, joined Oct. 2008
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Donald Trump Threatens to Cancel Berkeley Federal Funds After Riots Shut Down Milo Event
A fire set by demonstrators protesting a scheduled speaking appearance by Breitbart News editor Milo Yiannopoulos burns on Sproul Plaza on the University of California at Berkeley campus on Wednesday, Feb. 1, 2017, in Berkeley, Calif. The event was cancelled due to size of the crowd and several fires being set. (AP Photo/Ben Margot)
by CHARLIE SPIERING 2 Feb 2017
President Donald Trump reacted to the massive rioting at UC-Berkeley in response to a scheduled campus speech by Breitbart News editor Milo Yiannopoulos.
“If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view – NO FEDERAL FUNDS?” Trump wrote on Twitter early Thursday morning.
News of the rioting made cable news last night as students smashed ATMs and bank windows, looted a Starbucks, beat Trump supporters, pepper sprayed innocent individuals, and set fires in the street. Others spray painted the words “Kill Trump” on storefronts.
The speech was canceled by UC-Berkeley police as security failed. Yiannopoulos was evacuated from the area.
“The left is profoundly antithetical to free speech these days, does not want to hear alternative points of view, and will do anything to shut it down,” Yiannopoulos told Fox News host Tucker Carlson in an interview on Wednesday night. “My point is being proven over and over and over again.”
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reginamc
Las Vegas, NV
61, joined Mar. 2011
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How nice to see a President at the National Prayer Breakfast not talking about the Crusades.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
66, joined Oct. 2008
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It's really sad seeing how quick American liberals, socialists, communists, democrats (same thing) have become such worthless, limp d*ck, jellyfish, traitorous shit eating dogs being more willing to side with their Nations enemies than their own.
Semper Fi !!!
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. put Iran "on notice" Wednesday after the Iranian military tested a ballistic missile and allied rebels in Yemen attacked a Saudi naval vessel in the Red Sea, an early manifestation of President Donald Trump's promise of a tougher American approach to the Islamic republic.
"Iran is now feeling emboldened," Michael Flynn, Trump's national security adviser, told reporters.
Delivering his first public remarks since Trump took office, Flynn didn't elaborate on what actions the U.S. might take in response to Iran's missile test earlier this week. But he made clear the administration's view that President Barack Obama's strategy of containing Iran's destabilizing behavior while cooperating more closely on nuclear and other matters wasn't working.
"The Obama administration failed to respond adequately to Tehran's malign actions — including weapons transfers, support for terrorism and other violations of international norms," Flynn said.
Asked to clarify what Flynn meant by putting Iran "on notice," White House press secretary Sean Spicer said, "We felt as though their actions were both provocative and in violation."
The statement makes "sure that they understood that we weren't going to sit by and not act on those actions," Spicer said.
Reports of the missile test emerged after Trump signed an executive order last week temporarily suspending immigration from Iran and six other majority-Muslim countries.
As part of the final negotiations for the 2015 nuclear agreement between Iran and six world powers, Iran agreed to an eight-year extension of a U.N. ban on ballistic missile development. The U.N. Security Council later endorsed the agreement, calling on Iran not to carry out such tests. But Iran has flouted the prohibition regularly in the past year-and-a-half, drawing sanctions from the U.S. but also diplomatic cover from Russia.
Iran's Defense Minister Gen. Hossein Dehghan on Wednesday acknowledged the latest test and said "we will not let any foreigner meddle with our defense issues." He did not say when the test was carried out or specify the type of missile but insisted it wasn't a violation of U.N. resolutions or the 2015 nuclear accord.
Flynn argued otherwise, saying Iran specifically violated the U.N.'s ban on "activity related to ballistic missiles designed to be capable of delivering nuclear weapons, including launches using such ballistic missile technology."
The test ended with a "failed" re-entry into the earth's atmosphere, said a U.S. defense official, who wasn't authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.
Iranian-backed rebels in Yemen, meanwhile, claimed a successful missile strike on Tuesday against a warship belonging to a Saudi-led coalition fighting to reinstall Yemen's internationally recognized government. The media arm of the Shiite rebels, also known as the Houthis, said the vessel was believed to belong to the Saudi Arabian navy.
Although Flynn didn't argue that Tehran was violating the nuclear accord, his promise of a sterner American approach to Iran underscored the fragility of a deal that Trump repeatedly ridiculed as a presidential candidate.
Flynn said: "President Trump has severely criticized the various agreements reached between Iran and the Obama administration, as well as the United Nations - as being weak and ineffective."
At America's request, the U.N. Security Council held a session Tuesday to address the missile test. The council referred the matter to its committee on Iran and asked for an investigation.
Iran has long boasted of having missiles that can travel 2,000 kilometers (1,200 miles), putting much of the Middle East, including Israel, in range. Such capability would also put U.S. bases in the region in danger, and Iran says its missiles are key to deterring a U.S. or Israeli attack.
In March, Iran test-fired two ballistic missiles. One was emblazoned with the phrase "Israel must be wiped out" in Hebrew, sparking international outcry.
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nycman530
New York, NY
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shylywilling
Medford, OR
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Actually no you can't...
If you have personal possessions YOU OWN them PRIVATELY...
You want to live in a world where someone who works hard has exactly the same as someone who refuses to work at all...
GREAT...go find a country that will allow that...
It will never happen in the USA...
Umm, I don't want to insult your intelligence but, an equipped work station is often possessed by a steward whom is granted dominion of that which is provided.
We know how to behave civilized, most do it as a matter of family structure, ie.. I often have had and do make use of many resources I do not own, nor need to.
Our immature fear of others taking advantage of our hard work is exactly what enslaves us to being disadvantaged/retarded. Perhaps you, nuff, do not realize your intoxication that has you fighting for the front seat of last place car. Chuckle. The truth is sobering.
Private property capitalism is the "forbidden fruit" and is the enemy of state.
I have been given unto a parable to share.
We have 20 racers that split into two separate groups for ten-lap timed qualifying races. The ten in group-A beat and bang their way all the way to the checker flag and some may not even make it while even the winner has been damaged and progress and performance slowed. Group-B runs nose to tail like a freight train right to and beyond the checker. Not even a scratch at the finish on any of the ten competitors in group-B. The winner of Group A has a slower qualifying time/speed then even the last place competitor in the unblemished cooperatively aerodynamically advantaged group B.
Group-A displayed Laissez faire capitalism and raced only for personal victory at all cost even at a personal risk sustained damage in effort to beat and or eliminate competitors. Group-B displayed the democratic Christian communist principle. One for all and all for one. The entire group-B outperformed even the winner of group-A.
The entire group of capitalists do not qualify in the top ten performers. All ten democratic communists survive and thrive.
Cast of Characters
Group A: (Embryo of gods)
1st place through 9th place.....The elite one percenters. They start up front in the newest and most advanced proven equipment and are virtually unchallenged the entire race. Includes some passengers which otherwise would not be in this group. Senior public and corporate administrative executives. The Vatican.
10th place......The other ninety nine percent of the population. Various stages of upper middle economic classes, surplus labor, economically disenfranchised and physically disadvantaged classes. The enslaved classes. Many in this group have no idea that they are limited to at best the front seat of the last car by the deliberate intentions and leverages of the one percent advantaged. Many have been tricked into believing that they are unfairly limited by and supporting their fellow enslaved passengers in the back seat instead of the one percent. Nobody in this car can enjoy the ride as it is a constant uncivil battle to just maintain a seat in hopes of an enjoyable ride.
Group B: (Infant of LORD God)
Equal citizens of civilization. Mature, evolved, and survived.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
66, joined Oct. 2008
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havent heard that from any elected US president for a very long time, if ever....
thank you mr.president!
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
66, joined Oct. 2008
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Umm, I don't want to insult your intelligence but, an equipped work station is often possessed by a steward whom is granted dominion of that which is provided.
We know how to behave civilized, most do it as a matter of family structure, ie.. I often have had and do make use of many resources I do not own, nor need to.
Our immature fear of others taking advantage of our hard work is exactly what enslaves us to being disadvantaged/retarded. Perhaps you, nuff, do not realize your intoxication that has you fighting for the front seat of last place car. Chuckle. The truth is sobering.
Private property capitalism is the "forbidden fruit" and is the enemy of state.
I have been given unto a parable to share.
We have 20 racers that split into two separate groups for ten-lap timed qualifying races. The ten in group-A beat and bang their way all the way to the checker flag and some may not even make it while even the winner has been damaged and progress and performance slowed. Group-B runs nose to tail like a freight train right to and beyond the checker. Not even a scratch at the finish on any of the ten competitors in group-B. The winner of Group A has a slower qualifying time/speed then even the last place competitor in the unblemished cooperatively aerodynamically advantaged group B.
Group-A displayed Laissez faire capitalism and raced only for personal victory at all cost even at a personal risk sustained damage in effort to beat and or eliminate competitors. Group-B displayed the democratic Christian communist principle. One for all and all for one. The entire group-B outperformed even the winner of group-A.
The entire group of capitalists do not qualify in the top ten performers. All ten democratic communists survive and thrive.
Cast of Characters
Group A: (Embryo of gods)
1st place through 9th place.....The elite one percenters. They start up front in the newest and most advanced proven equipment and are virtually unchallenged the entire race. Includes some passengers which otherwise would not be in this group. Senior public and corporate administrative executives. The Vatican.
10th place......The other ninety nine percent of the population. Various stages of upper middle economic classes, surplus labor, economically disenfranchised and physically disadvantaged classes. The enslaved classes. Many in this group have no idea that they are limited to at best the front seat of the last car by the deliberate intentions and leverages of the one percent advantaged. Many have been tricked into believing that they are unfairly limited by and supporting their fellow enslaved passengers in the back seat instead of the one percent. Nobody in this car can enjoy the ride as it is a constant uncivil battle to just maintain a seat in hopes of an enjoyable ride.
Group B: (Infant of LORD God)
Equal citizens of civilization. Mature, evolved, and survived.
huh????
democratic Christian communist principle. One for all and all for one.
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???
Communism, a branch of socialism, is an experimental social system based on a set of ideals that, at first glance, seem to agree with some biblical principles. On closer examination, however, little evidence can be found that the Bible truly supports or endorses communism. There is a difference between communism in theory and communism in practice, and the Bible verses that seem to comply with communist ideals are in fact contradicted by the practices of a communist government.
There is a surprising sentence in a description of the church in Acts 2 that has led many people to wonder whether the Bible supports communism, and has led some people to defend strongly the idea that communism is actually biblical. The passage reads, “All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need” (Acts 2:44-45). This statement seems to imply that communism (which has, at its heart, a desire to eliminate poverty by “spreading the wealth around”) is found here in the earliest of Christian churches. However, there is a crucial difference between the church in Acts 2 and a communist society that must be understood.
In the Acts 2 church, the people were giving to each other out of their own good will to those who had a need, and they were giving freely, without regulation of how much they were to give. In other words, they shared what they had out of a shared love for one another and a common goal—living for Christ and glorifying God. In a communist society, people give because a system of government forces them to give. They don’t have a choice in the matter as to how much they give or to whom they give. This, therefore, does not reflect on who they are; it says nothing about their identity or character. Under communism, the cheerful, generous giver and the stingy man are both required to give exactly the same amount – namely, everything they earn.
The issue is one of cheerful giving (which the Bible supports) versus forced giving. Second Corinthians 9:7 says, “Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.” After all, the Bible contains a great number of references to helping the poor, being generous with what we have, and looking out for those who are less fortunate. When we obey in this area with cheerful hearts with the proper motivation, our giving is pleasing to God. What is not pleasing to God is giving out of compulsion, because forced giving is not giving out of love and therefore profits nothing in the spiritual sense. Paul tells the Corinthians, “If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing” (1 Corinthians 13:3). Loveless giving is the inevitable result of communism.
Capitalism is actually a better system, when it comes to giving, because it has proven to increase individual wealth, which allows its citizens to give out of their increase. Communism has proven to simply make all its citizens poor, except the very few in power who decide where the wealth goes. But even capitalism won’t work, by itself, as a system for aiding the poor. It depends on its citizens to be diligent (Proverbs 10:4) and generous with the fruits of their labor (1 Timothy 6:18) and to give out of love for God and neighbor. Thus, we see that God has designed for the physical and financial needs of the poor to be met by Christian individuals, rather than by any system of government.
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clarity101
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GOP Defectors Have Received Thousands From Teachers Union
Collins, Murkowski will vote no on DeVos
BY: Bill McMorris
February 1, 2017 4:10 pm
The two Republicans who broke ranks with their party and announced they would vote against education secretary nominee Betsy DeVos have received thousands of dollars from the nation's largest teachers union.
Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R., Alaska) and Susan Collins (R., Maine) have each benefited from contributions from the National Education Association. Collins received $2,000 from the union in 2002 and 2008, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Murkowski, meanwhile, has received $23,500.
The NEA represents 3 million members, making it the wealthiest and most influential union in the country. The NEA, along with other labor groups like the American Federation of Teachers, has waged a fierce campaign against DeVosa billionaire philanthropist and school choice activist.
Teachers unions donate almost exclusively to Democrats. The NEA contributed $2.3 million to Democratic candidates in 2016, while Republican nominees received $350,000, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
The top beneficiaries of union largesse have already voted against DeVos' nomination at the committee level. The union donated $740,000 to the 11 Democratic members of that committee—all 11 attempted to prevent the nomination from reaching the Senate floor.
Murkowski received a 100 percent rating on a 2012 NEA Report Card, while Collins received a 75 percent rating—the only Republicans to earn marks above 50 percent from the group. Each senator has earned straight-A marks from the union since 2014.
Murkowski has long been a favorite of teachers unions. She was one of only four Republican senators to receive contributions from the NEA in 2016, hauling in $10,000, while the other three Republicans received only $3,200. She received the NEA's endorsement in 2010 when she won as an independent candidate after losing the GOP primary, and received it again in 2016.
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shylywilling
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huh????
democratic Christian communist principle. One for all and all for one.
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???
Communism, a branch of socialism, is an experimental social system based on a set of ideals that, at first glance, seem to agree with some biblical principles. On closer examination, however, little evidence can be found that the Bible truly supports or endorses communism. There is a difference between communism in theory and communism in practice, and the Bible verses that seem to comply with communist ideals are in fact contradicted by the practices of a communist government.
There is a surprising sentence in a description of the church in Acts 2 that has led many people to wonder whether the Bible supports communism, and has led some people to defend strongly the idea that communism is actually biblical. The passage reads, “All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need” (Acts 2:44-45). This statement seems to imply that communism (which has, at its heart, a desire to eliminate poverty by “spreading the wealth around”) is found here in the earliest of Christian churches. However, there is a crucial difference between the church in Acts 2 and a communist society that must be understood.
In the Acts 2 church, the people were giving to each other out of their own good will to those who had a need, and they were giving freely, without regulation of how much they were to give. In other words, they shared what they had out of a shared love for one another and a common goal—living for Christ and glorifying God. In a communist society, people give because a system of government forces them to give. They don’t have a choice in the matter as to how much they give or to whom they give. This, therefore, does not reflect on who they are; it says nothing about their identity or character. Under communism, the cheerful, generous giver and the stingy man are both required to give exactly the same amount – namely, everything they earn.
The issue is one of cheerful giving (which the Bible supports) versus forced giving. Second Corinthians 9:7 says, “Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.” After all, the Bible contains a great number of references to helping the poor, being generous with what we have, and looking out for those who are less fortunate. When we obey in this area with cheerful hearts with the proper motivation, our giving is pleasing to God. What is not pleasing to God is giving out of compulsion, because forced giving is not giving out of love and therefore profits nothing in the spiritual sense. Paul tells the Corinthians, “If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing” (1 Corinthians 13:3). Loveless giving is the inevitable result of communism.
Capitalism is actually a better system, when it comes to giving, because it has proven to increase individual wealth, which allows its citizens to give out of their increase. Communism has proven to simply make all its citizens poor, except the very few in power who decide where the wealth goes. But even capitalism won’t work, by itself, as a system for aiding the poor. It depends on its citizens to be diligent (Proverbs 10:4) and generous with the fruits of their labor (1 Timothy 6:18) and to give out of love for God and neighbor. Thus, we see that God has designed for the physical and financial needs of the poor to be met by Christian individuals, rather than by any system of government.
LOL, thanks for trying at least but clearly you have been misled and or are misleading.
Within a true communist society, there is no private property period. If an entity is hoarding leveraged advantage, ("wealth" as you comically put it), the entity is a capitalist capitalizing/exploiting. The issue of enslavement is exactly the result of private property leveraged advantage, capitalism. Perhaps you are one of the many that dumbly believe the descriptions of despair Aayan Rand provided in her work was based on what she observed as a youth. She may not have even realized it her self, but what she described was the result of capitalists capitalizing/exploiting the masses. Much like the one percent elite private property capitalists are doing today.
(Gen 1:26) And God said, Let us make man in image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
We evolve from one to one, and hence what you do to the least you have done to your self.
"The all for one and one for all within a democracy, a communist society, and true Christianity.
You see, communism was not only present in scripture and nature, long before the book of Acts describes them behaving so, and, the most important part you neglect, they, the participants lacked nothing. Nobody sacrificed but every body increased in faculties and resources available.
(Gen 2:9) And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
midst = communism. A shared resource like a bloom, all can enjoy the fragrance and beauty, until someone selfishly touches or consumes/owns it.
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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LOL, thanks for trying at least but clearly you have been misled and or are misleading.
Within a true communist society, there is no private property period. If an entity is hoarding leveraged advantage, ("wealth" as you comically put it), the entity is a capitalist capitalizing/exploiting. The issue of enslavement is exactly the result of private property leveraged advantage, capitalism. Perhaps you are one of the many that dumbly believe the descriptions of despair Aayan Rand provided in her work was based on what she observed as a youth. She may not have even realized it her self, but what she described was the result of capitalists capitalizing/exploiting the masses. Much like the one percent elite private property capitalists are doing today.
(Gen 1:26) And God said, Let us make man in image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
We evolve from one to one, and hence what you do to the least you have done to your self.
"The all for one and one for all within a democracy, a communist society, and true Christianity.
You see, communism was not only present in scripture and nature, long before the book of Acts describes them behaving so, and, the most important part you neglect, they, the participants lacked nothing. Nobody sacrificed but every body increased in faculties and resources available.
(Gen 2:9) And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
midst = communism. A shared resource like a bloom, all can enjoy the fragrance and beauty, until someone selfishly touches or consumes/owns it.
whoa! sorry dude! ill have to agree to disagree with your 'understanding' of the
scripture. best of luck to ya with that....seriously! GOD bless
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clarity101
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Scandal-Ridden Democrat His Job! Latest Ethics Investigation Suggests He Violated US House Rules By… Michael Reed
By Michael Reed Posted on January 31, 2017
The political gossip during this past election cycle has centered around the corruption that has infected many of our nation’s congressional representatives and candidates for high office, Hillary Clinton and company being the most high profile politician so far.
Her most recent past sins, allegedly, are about misusing and mishandling classified emails through an unsecured server, among other things, but not ethics violations. At least not in the current go-round. She has, although, had accusations of ethics violations when she was a young lawyer involved in the Nixon Watergate investigation.
But there is another Democrat, who is now in quite a bit of hot water.
Rep. John Lewis. (D.GA) is the latest subject of an ethics violation investigation! This is, of course, after we found out that he is behind on paying his taxes for his luxurious DC townhouse!
Via Washington Free Beacon:
A watchdog group is asking congressional ethics officials to investigate Rep. John Lewis (D., Ga.) and his chief of staff over apparent violations of House ethics rules, according to a letter released on Monday.
The Foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust’s letter is asking the Office of Congressional Ethics to probe Lewis chief of staff Michael Collins’ dual roles in the congressman’s Washington office and as the treasurer for his 2016 reelection campaign.
Ethics rules bar senior House staff from serving in any fiduciary role for a political organization, and specifically mentioned campaign treasurers as a prohibited position for such staffers.
FACT’s complaint doesn’t just target Collins; it claims that Lewis himself is culpable for ethics violations by his top staffer.
“In this case, not only did Collins directly violate these rules, but Representative Lewis also violated the ethics rules because his own campaign employed Collins in a prohibited position and paid him a prohibited salary,” FACT wrote in its letter to OCE.
Ethics rules exist for one main purpose: to prevent the very kinds of abuse Lewis and Collins are accused of. It’s the kind of corruption the DC swamp is known for. President Trump has promised to “drain the swamp” and we couldn’t be more thrilled to see it happen.
Pull the stopper out, Mr. Trump!
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clarity101
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There is several videos with this article.Link:http://www.teaparty.org/report-al-queda-militants-tipped-off-ahead-trumps-first-seal-raid-216256/
I usually don't post from Infowars because I think Alex Jones gets carried away with his talking points but this one I wanted everyone to see.
Semper Fi !!!
On Sunday a Navy SEAL raid in Yemen resulted in the death of U.S. commando William “Ryan” Owens, as well as the injury of three others during a firefight with al-Qaeda militants.
The raid was Trump’s first authorized counterterrorism operation, but was planned for months by the Obama administration.
The New York Times reported, “Obama administration aides had deliberated extensively over the proposed operation, weighing the value of any information that might be recovered against the risk to the Special Operations forces plunging into hostile territory.”
However, a source later told ABC News that “Al-Qaeda fighters seemed ready for Sunday’s deadly Navy SEAL raid in Yemen.”
The source also claimed, “it was clear that the AQAP fighters in the compound knew the Americans were coming and engaged them with heavy weapons.”
Given the Obama administration’s extensive knowledge of the operation and the source’s claim, could they be responsible for tipping off the militants in order to botch Trump’s first military raid?
The Obama administration has been involved in similar controversies in the past, such as one incident in Kabul, Afghanistan in 2006 when a Chinook helicopter was shot down.
Charlie Strange, the father of late SEAL Team Six member Michael Strange who died in the helicopter attack, is still searching for the truth surrounding his son’s death.
Strange believes Michael’s death, along with the death of 30 other servicemen, may have been an inside job.
For more information on the mysterious death of Strange and his SEAL brothers see our exclusive reports below.
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