People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back 226

1/12/2008 9:41:46 AM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
lastradicaldude Lamar, CO age: 53	So sad that so many have created so many heros in their egos that they must maintain for their own percieved survival. Lastrad
1/12/2008 10:47:00 AM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
tat2big1 Crescent City, CA age: 34	ELISE7 I'm so sorry let me clarify for you that story about the pharoh and the ten plagues. Isn't that the same story that talks about infanant genocide!!!! And god is holy? You support such a cruel god of wrath or is it a god of love and forgiveness? Which is it?
1/12/2008 11:52:13 AM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
frombre New South Wales Australia age: 55	Is it more cruel to let a suffering animal live and go on suffering, or is it kinder to kill it? At least while in death, we will know nothing. There will still be the time of the judgment, where every person will be resurrected to stand before God and either be taken to him, or sent away to eternal damnation.But maybe he will be saved some suffering, in spite of himself. We are not God and don't have all the answers, if we did, there would be no need for faith. Doesn't it say in the Bible that Lucifer was created perfect for the purpose he was created for? Is that purpose to give us our own free will, to have free will, you need to have something to choose between. could he also be there for us to learn to overcome evil? The Holy Bible when understood through the Holy Spirit, clearly shows us there are two sides to the spiritual realm, there is the Side of Lucifer, the devil, Satan, the father of lies, the great deceiver, the one who came to kill, rob and destroy mankind, the one who leads, unbelief, doubt, lies, deception, hatred, revenge, geed, unforgiveness, drunkenness, perverted sexuality, Lust in all it's forms, condemnation, magic, witchcraft, soothsaying, voodo, and the list goes on, all things evil which are designed to destroy mankind and sever their link to their creator. There is also the side of the Almighty God of Love, Father of all of creation, who leads faith, belief, hope, love, joy, peace, goodness, grace, mercy, Forgiveness, temperance, will to give, abundance, justice, health, life everlasting, discipline, comfort, all things good and things which draw us ever closer to the one who first created us in his likeness and image. I believe it is our choices, because God gave us dominion over this earth, so what we choose to let in is what will reign supreme and which has bought in all the destruction we now are reaping the rewards of. The destruction the devil yields, doesn't only destroy mankind, but it also destroys this physical realm. Maybe it is time for mankind to stand up and be accountable for what they have allowed and start learning to overcome evil, with the help of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, because as we can see, we have not been doing a very good job, since we have been walking in the wrong direction. God Bless and much love to all Bre
1/12/2008 12:38:03 PM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
elise7 Calgary, AB age: 38	tat, you are taking the Bible story here in an out of context form of interpretation. God wanted Pharoah to freed the Israelites so that they be freed from Egypt's slavery. This is totally different from Genocide, it's more on killing people innocently. But these Israelites has been promised a covenant. The 10 plagues has to happen for God to reveal to Israelites his promise. To direct them to the Land of Promise in Canaan. All has been pre-determined by God and Him alone. We don't have control over it. elise7
1/12/2008 12:44:54 PM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
elise7 Calgary, AB age: 38	tat, sure you know how to swear right. What a "civil person"? elise7
1/12/2008 3:40:16 PM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
tat2big1 Crescent City, CA age: 34	ELISE7: So you are saying that it is alright to kill innocent babies because god allowed it? Why did he allow them to be enslaved in the first place? And why couldn't the almighty god free the people without killing the first born babies? So I see that you are trying to change the subject. Hmmm. Good tactic! You sure are making a lot of judgements for god, who do you think you are anyways?
1/12/2008 3:41:52 PM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
tat2big1 Crescent City, CA age: 34	Here's your scripture for the day!!!!! PSALMS 137:7-9
1/12/2008 4:54:59 PM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
elise7 Calgary, AB age: 38	tat, You are so judgemental yourself. If that's how you view God, why are you still here alive and arguing about Him. Don't you think that He cares for mankind than you are, human being. His only creation. He is the CREATOR, we are only His creations. You can question and show bitterness about Him, but that would not change the fact that He is God and we are His creations who can like in your case "insult him, mock him". You can say whatever you would like to say about Him. This identifies who you are. In yourself, maybe you are a "big" guy in your view capable of arguing senseless points just for the sake of arguing. Imitating other's opinions just to be in with the crowd. elise7
1/12/2008 5:05:46 PM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
tat2big1 Crescent City, CA age: 34	ELISE7 If it makes you feel any better, I have asked god to strike me down after calling him every blasphemous thing that I could think of, I also challenged Satan the same exact way. Guess what happened!!!!! NOTHING!!!! Nothing happened!
1/12/2008 5:11:14 PM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
stormbay Tasmania Australia age: 62	You can question and show bitterness about Him, but that would not change the fact that He is God and we are His creations who can like in your case "insult him, mock him". You can say whatever you would like to say about Him. This identifies who you are. In yourself, maybe you are a "big" guy in your view capable of arguing senseless points just for the sake of arguing. Imitating other's opinions just to be in with the crowd. Elise7 Wow a true psychopath, trying to place the blame for their own bitterness at not being able to convince everyone that their delusions are real. It is you dear elise who displays and posts completely senseless points, it's you who refuse to answer anything but just rant rabidly about how great you are and how unassailable your knowledge is of the subject and how it is you who can only know your mythical gods wants, needs and expressions. Yet yo can't even quite the right scripture, nor debate about it, you just ignore and focus on the mirror in your head telling you they cant be right as you are always right. How's it working for you so far outside you delusions You try to point out how miserable non believers are without god, but that really looks like you trying to blame everyone else for your own miserable life which is probably empty of anything meaningful. Even the saintly “to hell and back” guy is probably smiling in glee as the dollars roll in because he has lowered his costs and increased his profits by using clearly gullible nut cases to do his dirty work for him for free.
1/13/2008 4:55:06 AM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
truetlc Manassas, VA age: 43	No such thing....
1/13/2008 8:17:06 AM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
lastradicaldude Lamar, CO age: 53	Elise you posted, tat, You are so judgemental yourself. Why shouldn't we all be judgmental if we are the product of a judgmental god who kills innocent babies, sacrifices children, and destroys in hell all who do not agree with his judgment? Seems a little to me. Lastrad
1/13/2008 10:32:21 AM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
elise7 Calgary, AB age: 38	lastra, So it appears that the truth of the matter is that even those who claim Jesus still do not understand these spiritual things I reasoned this out because our minds are finite not unlike God who knows everything. Mystery belongs to God alone. If we are taking that responsibility out of God, then we are submitting to Him. We are trying to solve a mystery that is completely for God to answer not out of our limited minds. We are limited, God is not. elise7
1/13/2008 10:42:56 AM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
elise7 Calgary, AB age: 38	tat, It's because of Pharoah's stubborn will and heart, that God has to send them the 10 plagues. All was predetermined by God. Why you suddenly use the Bible verse which is not part of your daily routine in life. Is it because to prove to me that you can defend your arguments or ego, that you know at some point knows the Bible? Why the sudden use of the Bible which is not part of who you are. I thought you're into paranormal stuff, why do you suddenly use the Bible - is it because it's you last resort and it's a very safe answer. Head knowledge about the Bible is not enough, and you should know the God of the Bible and it's should be in your heart and life. It's like a basic needs in your life, you cannot live without them. But here, you suddenly use the Word as an excuse for your arguments. From what I see, engaging in paranormal activities is totally against God. And then you are quoting Bible verses suddenly. What a great excuse but it's not effective. Unless people see the change in you, they will truly believe and follow you what you are saying. Even demons believes and quotes God's word. elise7
1/13/2008 10:56:12 AM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
lastradicaldude Lamar, CO age: 53	Elise, how old were you when someone first told you that the bible was the Word of God? And how old were you when you first believed it? Lastrad

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