| 1/13/2008 9:35:49 PM |
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elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38
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lastra
believe in whatever you like.
I will pray for all of you here in the forum
Goodbye,
elise7
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| 1/13/2008 9:39:46 PM |
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lastradicaldude
Lamar, CO
age: 53
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Elise you posted, "WE are called to share the Gospel. Pride is the root of all evil."
What are you saying? Are you afraid that you would become prideful in giving God the glory for sharing the details of your money miracle with us here?
Or maybe it never really happened, huh?
Lastrad
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| 1/13/2008 9:45:19 PM |
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lastradicaldude
Lamar, CO
age: 53
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Elise you posted, "lastra
believe in whatever you like.
I will pray for all of you here in the forum
Goodbye,"
Just like your God, huh. Divorce yourself from the situation by leaving.
Well know this, if I saw you doing something that I believed harmful to your eternal existence, I would never divorce you in that cavilier way.
Lastrad
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| 1/14/2008 4:45:13 PM |
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elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38
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lastra,
Does it really matter where the money came from. All I know is God is so faithful and merciful to those that calls on Him. That is His nature and no one can argue with that unless you oppose this statement.
Maybe the reason you want where the money came from is to criticize me right. You're really expert at that.
Or maybe you like a share of it. It's not going to happen.
elise7
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| 1/14/2008 4:53:37 PM |
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lastradicaldude
Lamar, CO
age: 53
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Now Elise, if the money came from God I certainly couldn't criticize that. But how can we all know,  if you are afraid to give God the glory for it publicly. Huh?
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| 1/14/2008 5:02:05 PM |
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elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38
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lastra,
I already did in my church, during our Bible Study that time, my friends and my family and in this forum.
elise7
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| 1/14/2008 5:03:32 PM |
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elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38
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lastra,
I am not afraid. If you believe what I said in my testimony, you will believe it as it is. You don't have to question me where it came from.
I'm grateful to God, that's all i can say.
elise7
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| 1/14/2008 5:04:02 PM |
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lastradicaldude
Lamar, CO
age: 53
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Wow Elise, wish I could of been there to hear the big secret. What's the big deal about keeping it from us?
Miracles and signs are for the unbelievers, right?
[Edited 1/14/2008 5:05:21 PM]
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| 1/14/2008 5:18:36 PM |
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elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38
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lastra,
I always testify to any people that i know about it. But not in this forum. My story has been posted if somebody read them. It's entirely for believers who have a deep spiritual understanding, not really for unbelievers.
elise7
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| 1/14/2008 5:26:36 PM |
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lastradicaldude
Lamar, CO
age: 53
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Elise, Is that sort of like your story, about Bill's story about the Bible's story, about hell?. It is just for believers who have a deep spiritual understanding, not really for unbelievers.
It's been almost 24 hours and it's like the tape on the answering machine still hasn't been changed.
Your credibility with me and many who are following this thread is slipping low. I am more confident now than before that your story about the money is fishy.
Lastrad
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| 1/14/2008 5:29:52 PM |
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lastradicaldude
Lamar, CO
age: 53
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And if your story about the money turns out fishy, why should we believe the rest of what you have said? maybe that's why you don't want to share it, huh?
Lastrad
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| 1/14/2008 6:46:56 PM |
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missette
Knoxville, TN
age: 65
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Las-- you keep asking us how do we know the Bible is true? how do we know this is real how do we know that is real.It is very simple.We were counted as dogs until Jesus came on the scene.The old testament was written mostly for the Jewish people (Gods people)So when his people kept disobeying him.Those who-so=ever will-was adopted in as jews to make the real Jews jealous.So when Jesus comes back this time he's just coming after the church your looking for facts this is not a fact way its a faith way if its a fact it can't be faith.Now this is why some don't understand Jesus said this, (not me) If you don't have the spirit your none of mine.My sheep know my voice and a stranger they will not follow.Do you know his voice.God heareth not sinners.St.John 9:31.Do you think if you were upon top of the empire state building and a flood was coming up and God sent someone in a airplane to get you and you wouldn't get in.The plane went on and you got drowned would that be Gods falt.Well they didn't lisen to Noah in his day just like they're not lisening today.The devil has made sure they are a lot of books out there to confound the simple.God will not change his word it will last for an eternity.Mark 16:16 Those who beleive and are baptized shall be saved.Those who beleive not shall be damned.You see Las if i was right(which i know i am)I love you enough and i don't even know you that i don't want you or any one to go hell. God Bless ---Missette
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| 1/14/2008 7:20:34 PM |
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missette
Knoxville, TN
age: 65
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| 1/14/2008 7:59:31 PM |
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lastradicaldude
Lamar, CO
age: 53
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Missette I want to thank you for posting your concern for me and the music. Found it to be very entertaining. It reminded me of the kind of churches that I was often a part of in the past years. And I realize now why it is I left. Those places were full of people who could hear nothing but what they had been brainwashed to hear.
Now Missette I don't doubt your sincerety regarding your beliefs. I just doubt that the beliefs have solid foundation. Now I know you are going to say that Jesus is the foundation. And I know that you sincerely think so just as much as you believe every Word of the Bible is true.
But that is where I have a problem. If the god of the Bible is the true and living God then he failed miserably in portraying himself in a manner that I would want to associate myself with him. Now in the past, when I knew no better, I thought that the God of the Bible was awesome. But when I started reading the Bible closely and discovering things that no one within the churches I was a part of wanted to talk about, I began to suspect something was wrong.
You talked about humans being counted as dogs until Jesus came on the scene. Do you count any of your offspring as dogs?
You talked about the old testament was written mostly for the Jewish people (Gods people) Do you really believe that the True God has Special children? or people? Is your God a respector of persons? Will he ignore the prayer of a sinner?
You talked about a lot of books written by the devil's followers to "confound the simple". Well the Bible is probably the best book in the world with which to confound the simple.
When i point out to you discrepancies in the books of Ezra and Nehemiah, instead of you being able to converse with me concerning those simple discrepancies, you give me a mini sermon. And I realize that you do it out of what you see as love. But the truth is that for you, the simple discrepancies confound you, so it becomes easier to preach.
I don't need any other book as a witness against the inspiration of the Bible as the Bible itself is its own worse witness to the honest seeker.
It condones murder, slavery, usury, rape, human sacrifice and a host of other barbaric acts, as long as the ones doing these things are God's Chosen.
If you have missed these things in your reading of the Bible then you haven't paid very close attention.
If you are seriously and honestly seeking the Truth then go back and read the posts on Ezra and Nehemiah. I hope Truth matters that much to you.
Lastrad
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| 1/14/2008 11:03:40 PM |
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elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38
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lastra,
It's your own opinion. Talking about credibility. You are quoting the Bible that you don't have any idea who your god is. You don't even believe that the God in the Bible is the one true God and now you're talking about credibility.
Let the thread people assess your comments.
It's between me, my family and God on what kind of blessing it is. You don't have the right to insists, NONE whatsoever. I hope this you would absorb this in your mind.
elise7
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