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Forums: Religion: People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back |
1/8/2008 11:08:00 AM |
People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back |
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elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38
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skunk, if I share God's word with bad attitude, i apologize. Sense of humor is good but when it comes to God we have to be serious. He has taken us seriously enough to die on the cross for us. Yeah, if we ask for forgiveness and repent we will be a new a person. What a great deal right.
2 Corinthians 5:17 says,
If anyone be in Christ, he is a new creation, the old has gone, the new has come.
elise7
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1/8/2008 11:17:14 AM |
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bl8ant
Amsterdam
Netherlands
age: 53
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hmmmmmm now that just sounds kinky
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1/8/2008 11:18:53 AM |
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elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38
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queen, isn't that great. It proves how humble God is that He needs us. He's not a God who exercises his power to be so distant to us. He choose to have fellowship with man like Adam and Eve his first creation. That means God in the first beginning longs for a fellowship and He wants to share that relationship with man like us. Though we don't see God now, we can feel His presence in us, only if we have faith and believe in Him.
elise7
Hard to believe, but God needs us.
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1/8/2008 11:38:37 AM |
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bl8ant
Amsterdam
Netherlands
age: 53
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in perfection there is no 'need'
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1/8/2008 11:49:01 AM |
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stormbay
Tasmania
Australia
age: 62
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He has taken us seriously enough to die on the cross for us.
Hang on! Wasn't it his son who died on the cross. If your saying they are one and the same person, that would make them an incestuous clone, really kinky. So that means, an incestuous clone had sex with its mother and produced itself, who then pleaded withitself to save itself and then died calling out to itself for help. But it rejected itself and then resurrected itself so it could go back to be with itself. Makes as much sense as you do Elise.
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1/8/2008 12:13:26 PM |
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skunkbreath
Saint James, MO
age: 88
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elise!!!...my soulmate,,,the one who led me to
salvation..shalom!!!! "when it comes to God we have to be serious"
My darling, humor is serious, if done right. And to do god right, one has to be
humorous. It is just too serious not to be humorous. Joking is uplifting and should be
done with love. God is love... And yes, love is a joke too....
Do not fear!!!..Love me as you would any good joke!!...
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1/8/2008 12:36:12 PM |
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jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 53 online now!
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elise
when it comes to God we have to be serious
What are you talking about? God is playing to an audience, who is afraid to laugh.
elise
He has taken us seriously enough to die on the cross for us
elise, the creating (God) force in the universe did not die, ever, let alone on any cross..... The creators job in life, is to live, not die. The creator creates, and he might have made a few boo boo's with you, it appears.
elise
Yeah, if we ask for forgiveness and repent we will be a new a person. What a great deal right.
O'my what a fabulous deal in fact, yes if you are massacistic and like punishing yourself, it can be torture and a living hell, what a bargain indeed. The average believer is not truly concerned with God’s nature, or with God’s mysteries. He is merely concerned with what God can do for him, and how God might make his sad, mediocre life less insipid.
elise, God is definately a tuff nut to crack to be sure, most days he's pretty pissed off, with his experiment went wrong. So you might want to do some pretty heavy sucking up, cause he likes to argue and cause fights. The lord is a man of war. The lord is his name Exodus 15:3
elise
He's not a God who exercises his power to be so distant to us.
What in the world does this mean elise?It sounds like some serious double talking going on to me. I gave God strict orders not to excersise anything until I got back. He was not to do any excersises until I gave him the damn directions.
elise
He choose to have fellowship with man like Adam and Eve his first creation.
elise, the First born was created by changing the alien and human dna in the Garden of Eden, where the genetic experimentation took place, in Atlantis. The 'Garden of Eden' was a place where the Gods, your alien masters, the fallen ones, conducted their genetic experimentation work.
The word 'Naked' in the bible, is a cryptic euphemism for being in a state of 'intellectual ignorance'. Nakedness. Into the garden in a naked state, surpressed intelligence. The intelligent centers of the brain where shut off.
"Not being able to eat off the fruit of the tree of life", is a euphemism for the Adamic race, not having the intellectual ability that their masters had, (the Gods) the high scientific knowledge.
'The Virgin Queen' and 'Born of a Virgin'. The First Born was 'immaculately concieved', which is some form of DNA or genetic conception. Immaculate conception, means without sexuality.
The foreskin is a 'remnant' of the real proto-human. The removal is a ritual, to remind you that this is the mark of your servitude.
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1/8/2008 2:05:06 PM |
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skunkbreath
Saint James, MO
age: 88
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..jewelz.........
it's okay, elise is with me....
allen and burns type of love....
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1/8/2008 2:56:40 PM |
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frombre
New South Wales
Australia
age: 55
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https://DateHookup.dating/images/smiley/hi-103.gif just joined the thread, have been reading much of what everyone had to say. First of all I would like to congratulate Elise, for having the courage to stand up for her beliefs, second I would like to say to all those who have been having a go at her for speaking out, if Elise is wrong, she has nothing to loose, but if she is right, then all those who are making a game of her, have oh! so much to loose. My question is, is it worth the chance, what a big gamble, the gamble of eternity. As to why God would have made Heaven and Hell, I believe he did that because he loved mankind enough to give us our own free will, so we could come to him because we chose to, not to be a dictator and force us to come to him, because there was no other choice.I believe it has been mankind's choices in what we believe and who we will believe in which have caused us to be in the state we are in now. Fear has two meanings, one is to be terrified of and the other is to have awesome love and respect for. I believe mankind have got it wrong from the beginning and have let the destroyer in because of our bad choices. The Holy Bible says, God is love. If we can love our children and discipline them to try to set them on a good path in life, do you not think that God can also do this?https://DateHookup.dating/images/smiley/heart.gif
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1/8/2008 5:25:23 PM |
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elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38
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frombre, thanks for your comments. Appreciate all your observation. Glad you're here. I pray that God will guide us thru this discussion. Like Joseph, we too will be protected by God no matter what the situation is.
elise7
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1/8/2008 5:33:58 PM |
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elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38
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storm, Sorry for misstating that. What I mean here is God sent His Only Son Jesus Christ to die on the cross for payment of our sins so that we can have eternal life. As much as God gave us the free will to choose to do good and evil, we are also given a chance to accept the redemptive work of God for us.
elise7
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1/8/2008 6:15:26 PM |
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elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38
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skunk, i don't have a problem having a humor in life. In fact if they are healthy as long as it's not offending a person.What am saying here is when we are discussing about God, can we be decent enough to take His Words seriously.
elise7
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1/8/2008 8:27:15 PM |
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elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38
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jewelz, if you don't believe in God and the Bible, we don't have nothing to talk about. I just don't want to convince you in my belief. All I know is we are accountable to God and He will judge us fairly. Do you think that God is happy with what is going on in the Middle East today. He's not, again He did not create us like robots, He gave us the free will to choose between good and evil. People today chooses to do evil, ergo, the result is war, conflict and poverty.
elise7
Bear in mind that God is still knocking at your heart.
Revelation 3:20 God said:
Listen! I am standing and knocking at your door. If you hear my voice and open the door, I will come in and we will eat together.
He promises life, and abundant to those who are willing to come to Him
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1/8/2008 10:48:08 PM |
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queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 62
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Elise why don't you just leave it to god and if he wants us he can let us know instead of trying to be a preacher. That is the very thing that burns us up is you have to keep on preaching the same things we have heard all our lives. We do not believe in your god or your bible. Is that clear like crystal clear.
I do not understand why it is so brave to stand up for what most of the rest of the christians on here have been preaching the last year that I have been here. I think it is more brave for us, the minority, to stand up to all the majority christians.
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1/9/2008 10:07:22 AM |
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elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38
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queen, then don't reply in any of this thread. If in your own opinion, you're just wasting your time,then you have the option to leave this discussion or let it die if that would be the case. Let other people hear other's insights. This is not only about you, it's all about people who are eager to learn from others and other's mistakes.
elise7
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