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1/13/2008 8:53:23 PM People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back  

queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 62


Oh now I get it. If you pray hard enough and are in need god will give you money. Wonder where all the people, who get money, and never pray get it.

Just like all the people who do not die or get well, it is only because their family or they themselves know how to say the right prayers. The rest of us just go to heaven and hell and come back.

1/13/2008 8:55:21 PM People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back  

elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38


lastra,

you're really good at twisting the truth. you have that gift and it's amazing how you perfected it so well.

I know the God that I serve and He rewared His children from their efforts.
How about you, have you experienced your god's lovingkindness.
elise7

1/13/2008 8:56:25 PM People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back  

elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38


tat,

You are one of storm's disciple aren't you
elise7

1/13/2008 9:06:31 PM People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back  

lastradicaldude
Lamar, CO
age: 53


Elise you posted,
lastra, First of all, can you identify the god that you you are talking about here. In one of your comments you said that you don't believe the God of the Bible. This is real fishyay that you don't believe in the God of the Bible.

So what kind of God do you believe in.
This is really fishy, big time. Because in order for you to continue studying the Bible, you must believe that the Bible talks about God.

So my question for you is what kind of God do you believe in apart from the God of the Bible

elise7


The Creator God that I know to exist is the one that shows me right and wrong in my inner conscience. The Creative Force God that I know to exist is the one responsible for all we see and know to exist.
My God writes the laws of right and wrong in my inner being where it is evermore watched over by the same God to direct my path in righteousness. No one has the power to mistranslate or misinterpret what God reveals to my conscience. God is responsible to reveal; I am responsible to walk. Pretty simple arrangement. If God doesn't reveal, then I'm not responsible.

Makes more sense than Gods you have to believe in by blind faith in spite of the incredible and unbelievable stories those gods desire people to blindly accept.

To me it's a lot more fishy when someone wants me to blindly believe something. That is the method that all the cults of the world use to brainwash their followers. Multitudes have perished following blindly.

Lastrad

1/13/2008 9:06:57 PM People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back  

elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38


queen, you said:

Oh now I get it. If you pray hard enough and are in need god will give you money. Wonder where all the people, who get money, and never pray get it.

Just like all the people who do not die or get well, it is only because their family or they themselves know how to say the right prayers. The rest of us just go to heaven and hell and come back.

Queen,

Did i say i pray enough. This isn't about me getting the rewards, what i am saying is God answered our family's prayers to prove His faithfulness. This isn't about you who has the hard and best prayers, this is about God's glory so that people will continue to believe in Him, that He can still works miracles even in this day age.

Dont' forget too that He has the options to bless and not to bless, heal or not to heal a person for some reason. God only knows that. We don't have control over it. And it will also help too on examining our life and our priorities. Do we ask God first or He's always the last resort when medical doctors failed their expectations.

elise7

1/13/2008 9:11:59 PM People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back  

elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38


tat,

you are allowed to believe in any of your posting. Nobody is hindering you.
elise7

1/13/2008 9:12:57 PM People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back  

lastradicaldude
Lamar, CO
age: 53


Elise you posted, "lastra, you're really good at twisting the truth. you have that gift and it's amazing how you perfected it so well."

Why would you say that? I have only asked you simple questions.

You also posted, "I don't need you or anybody else to believe me. As far as i know we are enjoying God's blessings."

But I thought you loved me and wanted to see me saved. If you don't help me to believe you about your money from god, then why should I believe your story about Bill in Hell.

Lastrad



[Edited 1/13/2008 9:15:03 PM]

1/13/2008 9:14:26 PM People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back  

elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38


jewelz,

You can too believe in whatever teachings you like.
Not my responsibility anymore.
elise7

1/13/2008 9:16:29 PM People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back  

elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38


lastra,

you too, you can believe whatever you like.
I am not responsible anymore
elise7

1/13/2008 9:16:39 PM People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back  

lastradicaldude
Lamar, CO
age: 53


When was jewelz or I ever your responsibility?

Are you going to tell us where this money from God came from?

Lastrad



[Edited 1/13/2008 9:17:21 PM]

1/13/2008 9:23:37 PM People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back  

lastradicaldude
Lamar, CO
age: 53


Elise you posted, "I know the God that I serve and He rewared His children from their efforts.
How about you, have you experienced your god's lovingkindness."



Yes I have experienced my Creator God's kindness, mercy, providence, etc. And because of that I don't fear that my god wants to put me or anyone else in hell.

Lastrad

1/13/2008 9:27:21 PM People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back  

lastradicaldude
Lamar, CO
age: 53


Elise you don't have to feel responsible for me. Please don't. I am sorry you ever did.

But could you be civil and answer my question about where the money from God came from?

Why is that so hard. I would think that a zealot like yourself would enjoy telling about a miracle you experienced.

Lastrad

1/13/2008 9:31:03 PM People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back  

elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38


lastra,

see that's the whole point, you are so ignorant about he Gospel. This shows that you just want to read the Bible and not apply them. Spreading of the Gospel is our responsibilty and we are called to do such tasks. Well unless you are doubting your faith and your standing before God.
We don't have the Bible if it weren't for those who preached them.

elise7

1/13/2008 9:32:45 PM People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back  

elise7
Calgary, AB
age: 38


lastra,

WE are called to share the Gospel. Pride is the root of all evil. God needed us to be a spokesperson for Him, His Word.
elise7

1/13/2008 9:35:28 PM People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back  

lastradicaldude
Lamar, CO
age: 53


What was that? Sermons number 111 and 119 from your answering machine?

Is this your way of avoiding my questions? Now who is really doing the twisting? Uh huh, that's what I thought!

Lastrad



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