People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back 76

1/4/2008 8:17:08 AM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
lastradicaldude Lamar, CO age: 53	In Luke chapter 16:19---31 19": There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: "20": And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, "21": And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. "22": And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; "23": And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. "24": And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. "25": But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. "26": And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. "27": Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: "28": For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. "29": Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. "30": And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. "31": And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Now what amazes me is that those who claim to believe the bible will believe a story by some Bill, before they will believe what Yashua had to say about this. [Edited 1/4/2008 8:26:36 AM]
1/4/2008 9:06:03 AM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
elise7 Calgary, AB age: 38	Well, there is a reason that people like Bill has been chosen to see the glimpse of hell and why is that, because we cannot dictates God on how, why, what ways He will reach out to people. As God said to Bill, people now doesn't believe that hell exists. That is one of the reason why God show Bill the eternal punishment so that people will wake up before it's too late. Maybe for you it's not a big deal, but for God it is, even John 3:16 proves that whatever its takes to save the world, God will do it, even giving His son on the cross. And we as human being should not ask why God shows eternity and came back and started witnessing. Why is that, God can do whatever He likes just to get all people to repent. Don't you ever think that God will waste all those 23 minutes of experience to hell if it is not true. And because there is an urgency that people should realize their need for Saviour or else punishmet is at hand. Though He is a loving Father, he also disciplines those He loves. I back you up on that scriptures. As God shows miracles to people, He can also plan ways on how to reach people thru dreams, visions, miracles with or without our permission. elise7
1/4/2008 9:16:19 AM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
skunkbreath Saint James, MO age: 88	..elise,!!!!!..my soulmate!!!!!..... I know now what you are talking about when you say ,"He can also plan ways on how to reach people thru dreams, visions, miracles with or without our permission. " Would you also agree that , with our permission, many things will be shown to us about what to change in our lives?...
1/4/2008 9:18:52 AM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
oletafive Rattan, OK age: 60	Lustrad, Thank you for sharing that with me. It has been a while since I have read Luke. Your words from the Book of Luke restoreth my soul. May those words from Luke never turn to ashes in your mouth. --=Oletafive=--
1/4/2008 9:20:14 AM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
lastradicaldude Lamar, CO age: 53	Luke 16;26---31 Yashua says, "26": And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. "27": Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: "28": For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. "29": Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. "30": And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. "31": And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. So why is it that you and Bill think that one who rose from the dead will have such an effect now? Didn't Yashua rise from the dead? If people don't believe that, why do you suppose they will believe the story of some 21st century Bill? So does God do this in every generation to give everyone an equal chance of being persuaded by such an inspiring story? People have been known to believe fabulous stories before. Look at Joseph Smith and the Mormons for instance. Dum, Dum, Dum, Dum, Dum. Lastrad
1/4/2008 9:27:10 AM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
lastradicaldude Lamar, CO age: 53	Thank you Oleta for those dear thoughts. Do you have them for me because you lust after me or what? You are the only one who chooses to slander my name in the manner you do. Is there a church of other lusty, crusty Christians like you down there in OK? Verily I say unto you, "Do not be led by the lust". Lastrad
1/4/2008 10:33:37 AM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
skunkbreath Saint James, MO age: 88	AN OPEN QUESTION: How can one believe in god and satan? That is, putting the phrase, "god and satan " , together in that way within a "belief statement"? Would not this be adultery? I see nowhere in the bible that belief in satan is required for salvation. Am i in error? gosh, i hope my soulmate does not see my question of unbelief...
1/4/2008 3:53:58 PM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
elise7 Calgary, AB age: 38	lastra, it's your choice to believe Bill Weise' testimony, no one is forcing to believe them. And why is it that Bill's testimony is so identical with what the Bible is saying about the topic of heaven and hell that is backed by 400 verses in the Bible. And people are being change the moment they hear this testimonies. Is that a coincidence or what. We have our own will, and it's up to us to use that will in good decision. You're right, even before people doesn't want to believe Jesus, who are you to judge what God can and cannot do in terms of reaching out to people. You don't get it, God will plan ways to reach out to people in any possible means wherein we don't have control over with. God doesn't need our permission to prove that heaven and hell do exists. The reason too that many Christians nowadays are not giving up their sinful ways because they are not afraid of hell and its consequences. In that website: www.spiritlessons.com tell me if these people are making this up. And honestly assess their testimony with the Bible itself. In life there are things that are mystery to man that only God can answer. If you are going to research for that answer, you will lose your mind. Acceptance is the key to all of these. elise7
1/4/2008 4:18:43 PM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
skunkbreath Saint James, MO age: 88	elise,"-you will lose your mind."..yes, so true, my soulmate, as i did over you!!! have you noticed that we look alot alike!!!...is that cool, or what?!!..
1/6/2008 1:44:45 PM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
elise7 Calgary, AB age: 38	skunk, just as people do believe in good and evil, this is the same as believing in God and satan. When we say believe, we know in our hearts God and satan exists. Believing in God means we worhip him, we accept that He alone can save us from God's wrath. And as I believe too that satan is the author of lies and deception capable of misleading people like what satan did to the first man and woman - Adam and Eve- convincing them that if they eat the fruit of the tree - they too will become like God. Unfortunatley, these people believes the lie. When God learned about their disobedience, the fellowship between God and man has been scarred. From then on sins ruled over us because of disobedience. Until God decided that there is one hope to reconcile man to God - that is thru the cross of Christ. You see satan doesn't like people to know about God's plan. He will say that these are all foolishness, it's your decision to believe. But I've already shared God's word many times to you, but I guess I cannot stress this enough to you. I pray that someday you'll realize your need of God and His wonderful plan in your life. elise7
1/6/2008 2:10:03 PM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
elise7 Calgary, AB age: 38	Skunk, the Bible says in 2 Thessalonians verse 10-12 on the second of Jesus Christ Lost people will be fooled by satan's evil deeds. They could be saved , but they will refuse to love the truth and accept it. So God will make sure that they are fooled into believing a lie. All of them will be punished, because they would rather do evil than believe a lie. I hope this explains my quaking or babblin about the subject of heaven and hell. And if you don't believe the Scriptures, we have nothing to talk about. That's the only book that would take care a person's spiritual destiny and if you still don't like to believe them, I would say that you are really amazing. You are not only : misleading people but also challenging God on the authority of the Bible and God himself. Try God and experience it yourself. elise7
1/6/2008 2:11:44 PM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
elise7 Calgary, AB age: 38	jewelz, visit www.spiritlessons.com - hopefully this may wake you up. elise7
1/6/2008 4:13:27 PM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
skunkbreath Saint James, MO age: 88	elise!!!...my soulmate,,,the one who led me to salvation..shalom!!!! now i am confused by what you say ,"Believing in God means we worhip him-" okay, i understand that!!!! But then you say."believing in God and satan-"... then, isn't that worshiping god and satan.??.. we aren't suppose to do that are we????.. somebody tried to tell me that believing isn't enough!!!..they said that even demons believe!!! and they quoted the bible!!!! so, if demons believe in god, do they worship him???.. does that make sense???.. or would that make me okay with god, just believe, eventhough you think i am still the devil? and that confuses me too, since i repented and was saved, how come you still think i am evil???.. i know we can work this out, elise, my soulmate who saved me!!!
1/6/2008 8:05:24 PM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
queenofhearts61 Seymour, IN age: 62	If god was able to show this to Bill then it was for him not for anyone else. If god wanted others to believe this then they would also be shown. Or is your god picking and choosing again? Not hard to figure out how come it goes along with the bible since everyone in this country has known what is in the bible all their lives. DUH
1/6/2008 11:29:42 PM	People who have gone to heaven and hell and came back
elise7 Calgary, AB age: 38	queen, in the website www.spiritlessons.com - God has been showing to different people of all ages what's heaven and hell's like. You may wanna hear Bill Weise' testimony if you like. As soon as I hear about his testimony, it opens my eyes to the truth of God's love to people are endless. In Bill's testimony, he was instructed by God to share what he saw about the description of hell. How it was identical with what the Bible is saying. Even Bill Weise doesn't know why he was chosen to see the picture of hell. If this doesn't convince you of the reality of God's love and the punishment for those who continously opposing the truth of the Bible and God, I don't know what to say. elise7

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