I noticed that noclass conveniently side stepped the above post? Hmm

You won't then, as 9/11 truth are too lazy. I'll see what my Audio Engineer Buddy has to say about it.

Hey, I'm still trying to figure out how you determined Hess was unreliable. You have conveniently omitted that step, as always. You need to fully explore the possibilities of one of your claims before you move on a**hole. You ignored the fact that the evacuation order was given at 9:45 and Jennings could only have entered the OEM after 9:45. Why do you ignore that one, Douche?

Why are you such a d*ck?

F**kwit, before you move on, first you need to address the fact that you're ingoring the time the evacuation order was given. I'm not bothering with your evasions until you do that.

Again:


You ignored the fact that the evacuation order was given at 9:45 and Jennings could only have entered the OEM after 9:45. Why do you ignore that one, Douche?





How did you determine that Hess was unreliable but Jennings is reliable?

Stop changing the subject and do something you lazy shit.

Better question is why is he being called to go there AFTER or at least in the midst of an evacuation order?

Better question is why is he being called to go there AFTER or at least in the midst of an evacuation order?

Are you gonna throw me a line here girl?

.... Clarifying, Jennings added: " The explosion was beneath me." After they went back up to the 8th floor, Jennings said(explicitly rejecting the idea that what he might have felt might have been effects from the collapse of the North Tower), he looked out the window and saw that " both buildings(The Twin Towers) were still standing." before you f**ks start trying to debunk this book there are almost 200pgs of referenced notes.

Guess what asswipe, YOU WILL debunk my last post and I WILL steer this debate into the ONLY direction that it needs to go which will finally lead us to the truth and i WILL NOT dance around with you moronic paid shills anymore.

Next paragraph pg. 45, NPHR. Using a fire extinguisher to break "a window" (quotes mine)(not same window a** wipe), Jennings caught someone's attention with his cries for help. (176) But he and Hess were not rescued immediately, because, although firefighters came to the window twice, they ran away both times: "The fire department came and ran. They came twice. Why? Because Building Tower One fell, and then Tower Two fell. I was trapped in there several hours. I was trapped in there when both buildings came down. All this time I'm hearing explosions."

Do i need to furnish you with the url of where Barry Jennings states that they RAN down the stairs EVEN SKIPPING STEPS? Or can you find the video yourself?

Look higgy, the timeline is not that crucial as you shills are trying to make it. Looks to me like your trying to divert the direction of this debate. The ONLY thing that you need to focus on is what i pasted below, a statement of FACTS that i posted days ago. Now TRY debunking it!!!

Quote from srv63, days ago:

We do know for FACT that Barry Jennings was inside of WTC7 for awhile BEFORE WTC1 collapsed because in his eyewitness testimony, he stated "firefighters came to help rescue him but then they RAN AWAY then they came back but this time with more concern on their faces then they RAN AWAY again". Anyone with common sense would take each of them "ran aways" as when each tower was collapsing, would you not agree? If you don't agree then i would like to hear another explanation of why the firefighters "ran away".

The firefighters ran away the first time only because TWC2 was collapsing. MIND YOU, Barry Jennings was already trapped in WTC7 on the 8th floor and HAD ALREADY HAD THE STAIRWELL EXPLODE OUT FROM UNDERNEATH HIM with no way out and this is why he's trapped on the 8th floor.MIND YOU, WTC1 has not collapsed yet therefore making it IMPOSSIBLE for the debris from WTC1 to start fires in WTC7. Answer the million dollar question here shills, WHAT THE HELL CAUSED THE STAIRWELL IN WTC7 TO EXPLODE, therefore trapping Barry Jennings and hess?????

Hmm, good question watson

Again shill, are you gonna address the post i have pasted below or are you going to run from it like a girl like the other shills? Can't think of lies to spew or deception to cast?

Quote AGAIN from srv63:

To the shills,

The ONLY thing important for you shills to worry about is to TRY debunking SOLID EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY of the video below.Start video at 16:15. Don't even waste time bringing up hess's name because it's very obvious that he is terrified for his miserable life and has already sold his soul to the devils and that's the only reason he's still alive, for now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmeY2vJ6ZoA

Come on now shill, got to be something in that holy koran or nist report to debunk the above video. Have a go at it

Can you explain that SRV, please? How can he see the Towers from the NORTH side of the building?

The more one looks into this canard, the more one thinks Barry Jennings was confused about the timeline, and that the testimony of others should be given more weight than 9/11 truth would care to acknowledge.

Perhaps Jetson, you can explain why the oral history account of EMS Division Chief John Peruggia dispels the "7WTC was empty at 0903" nonsense rather soundly?

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110160.PDF


None of the others want to touch this. Why is that?

No need to be a d*ck about it. You didn't contextualise the quote.

http://wtc.nist.gov/NISTNCSTAR1-8.pdf

NIST NCSTAR 1-8 Page 109
At approximately 9:44 a.m., after the report of a third aircraft heading into the city and news that the Pentagon had been attacked, a Deputy OEM Commissioner ordered the complete evacuation of WTC 7. (Sheirer 2004) This order included the evacuation of the OEM operations center on the 23rd floor.


How do account for the discrepancy (and don't say NIST lied because that is just stupid)?

Since you have Griffin's pack of lies in front of you, how does HE account for the above? How does HE reconcile this anomaly in his revised timeline? The guys here just choose to ignore in the hope it will go away, but it needs to be reconciled, otherwise it is just a half-assed lie.

Furthermore, why does Griffin think it was necessary to set off charges in 7WTC seven hours before it collapsed?

This has never been explained and the numpties on here have no answer and avoid it in the hope it will go away.

Perhaps you can clear up the problems with this tale that the others can't?

To accept B. Jennings account as true, one has to discount the weight of evidence in opposition to the claim. How do you do that logically?

Oh, simple, the confusion of the day, and he wasn't in constant communication with the OEM, hence the need for him to make a series of calls upon arrival.

He wasn't called in AFTER the evac order was given. He was called in on his way to work.

Please revised the series of events as depicted in previous pages.

As usual, i don't think that you caught her true meaning by her statement. She opened a new door/new direction to research

Enter one longbobby who posted a quote by Bobby Ray Inman who served as head of Naval Intelligence under Carter. Nominated to succeed Les Aspin as SecDef by Clinton. Served on the Council on Foreign Relations... uh, er, wait a minute! Isn't that the organization that some believe wants the New World Order one world government? Why yes it is. He was definitely anti-Israel and doesn't believe we should support Israel, but does believe in UFOs. Not to mention that out of all the CIA directors who were pro-Israel, he was the only one against our biggest proponent in the Middle East. Ah well, if only one knew where it be longbobby manages to find these nutcases.