8/24/2015 7:18:46 PM
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from progrocknic: Any education would have been nice. Did you read the post he responded to? What big fancy words? Perhaps he means any word with more than two syllables, er, I mean...parts. Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
8/24/2015 7:20:59 PM
longbobby Lufkin, TX 54, joined Aug. 2010	"Evidence linking the Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information." -- US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the involvement of Israel in 911. Classic government doublespeak; Yes Israel was involved in 911; No, we can't tell you about it because the evidence that links Israel to 911 is classified.
8/25/2015 1:23:26 AM
longbobby Lufkin, TX 54, joined Aug. 2010	American Jews are actually being trained since childhood to interact with non-Jews in a deceitful and arrogant manner, in coordination with each other, to emotionally destroy non-Jews and Israel critics in addition to wrecking their careers and interfering with their social relationships. This is actually deliberate, wicked, planned behavior motivated by a narcissistic self-righteous fury. ... The problem is that non-Jews are taught through emotional pressure and violence via the media and the school system to be very sensitive to Jewish suffering so when a Zionist becomes outraged at them for challenging their world view, the non-Jew really has to fight against his own inner self in a huge battle against his "inner Jew" making him feel inadequate and intimidated. But the Jew doesn't care how much he or she hurts others. Jews only care about what's good for the Jews. ... I once reduced a 50 year old man to hysterical sobbing tears because I told him gently and lovingly that Jews were not that unique. I just told him the Jews, like everyone else, have had good times and bad times. Times when they were slaughtered and other times when they slaughtered others. Just like everyone else. Guess what he did next. He emotionally abused me in an insulting way and then cut off all further communication. Jewish behavior is so predictable that it's truly scary. ... If you mention cutting off the money or if you mention the possible compromise of living with Palestinians as equals in one state they become very angry and start using bullying tactics, unless they have some reason to fear you, in which case they shun you and complain about you to the authorities, try to get you arrested or try and destroy your career or social status through character assassination. ... Zionists all believe in the myth of "1000 years of Jewish suffering" and feel that the world owes them compensation for their ancestors' "unique" suffering. It's a criminally insane viewpoint. They cope with the contradictions between their belief that they are the good guys and what Jews are actually doing to their neighbors, both in the Middle East and in the US, by developing mental health issues. Most Zionists are functional schizophrenics.
8/25/2015 1:36:50 AM
higgy51 Navarro, CA 61, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from srv63: I see your still clueless on how this works shill. All i have to do is present strong evidence that contradicts your employers nist report then i leave it up to "the readers" to use their own intellect to form their own opinion. So far, i'm doing pretty damn well if i say so myself I absolutely love this one. The NIST time frame has been contradicted by a conspiracy website, yet you dismiss them because Jennings say's he was rescued at 1pm; despite the evidence presented by your own people, you are still relying on Jenning's.....you are strange. Quote from srv63: It seems that your hero hess was interviewed AFTER 1PM because my EYEWITNESS SAYS SO, so untill you PROVE otherwise, hess got rescued on 9/11 at 1PM. By the way, here is where you fall flat on your face again: Please provide EVIDENCE that your witness states that he/they were rescued at 1pm. I am not going to bother asking you about the French connection again, want to know why? WE KNOW YOU WERE LYING AND SO DO YOU. YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE BALLS TO ADMIT YOUR ERROR.
8/25/2015 2:15:54 AM
higgy51 Navarro, CA 61, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from higgy51: By the way, here is where you fall flat on your face again: Please provide EVIDENCE that your witness states that he/they were rescued at 1pm. Don't bother, I couldn't wait for 3 days, so I found it myself and yes, you are correct, he does say he was rescued; he also states this too: "They couldn't get to us for an hour because they couldn't find us." An hour...that would put it about 11.30 sort of time, an hour after the Tower fell, seems to confirm the Hess comment of being trapped for 1 1/2 hours. He also said this: "I got into the building a little before nine, a little after nine.. I didn't get out of there until like 1 PM." He got into the building before 9, after 9...wonder which one it was?
8/25/2015 6:38:06 AM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from higgy51: Don't bother, I couldn't wait for 3 days, so I found it myself and yes, you are correct, he does say he was rescued; he also states this too: "They couldn't get to us for an hour because they couldn't find us." An hour...that would put it about 11.30 sort of time, an hour after the Tower fell, seems to confirm the Hess comment of being trapped for 1 1/2 hours. He also said this: "I got into the building a little before nine, a little after nine.. I didn't get out of there until like 1 PM." He got into the building before 9, after 9...wonder which one it was? I see you still coming up with allot of blather(a word your fellow shill likes using), but yet nothing of real substance to give good reason to question my eyewitness Barry Jennings so, his accounts of 9/11 stand and your spineless witness is a liar
8/25/2015 7:12:26 AM
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from longbobby: American Jews are actually being trained since childhood to interact with non-Jews in a deceitful and arrogant manner, in coordination with each other, to emotionally destroy non-Jews and Israel critics in addition to wrecking their careers and interfering with their social relationships. This is actually deliberate, wicked, planned behavior motivated by a narcissistic self-righteous fury. ... The problem is that non-Jews are taught through emotional pressure and violence via the media and the school system to be very sensitive to Jewish suffering so when a Zionist becomes outraged at them for challenging their world view, the non-Jew really has to fight against his own inner self in a huge battle against his "inner Jew" making him feel inadequate and intimidated. But the Jew doesn't care how much he or she hurts others. Jews only care about what's good for the Jews. ... I once reduced a 50 year old man to hysterical sobbing tears because I told him gently and lovingly that Jews were not that unique. I just told him the Jews, like everyone else, have had good times and bad times. Times when they were slaughtered and other times when they slaughtered others. Just like everyone else. Guess what he did next. He emotionally abused me in an insulting way and then cut off all further communication. Jewish behavior is so predictable that it's truly scary. ... If you mention cutting off the money or if you mention the possible compromise of living with Palestinians as equals in one state they become very angry and start using bullying tactics, unless they have some reason to fear you, in which case they shun you and complain about you to the authorities, try to get you arrested or try and destroy your career or social status through character assassination. ... Zionists all believe in the myth of "1000 years of Jewish suffering" and feel that the world owes them compensation for their ancestors' "unique" suffering. It's a criminally insane viewpoint. They cope with the contradictions between their belief that they are the good guys and what Jews are actually doing to their neighbors, both in the Middle East and in the US, by developing mental health issues. Most Zionists are functional schizophrenics. Rather than appear as though your plagiarizing, the least you could do is add a couple quotation marks or simply link to the source. This is straight out of Karin Friedmann's (aka Maria Hussain) blog post (see linky > http://karinfriedemann.blogspot.com/2009/03/talking-to-jews-or-not.html who, when it comes to various topics such as "The Boston Marathon Bombing" (see linky > http://www.wcvb.com/news/is-this-trickery-survivor-says-holding-prosthetic-leg-out-to-tsarnaev-supporters/30293698 or 911 (see linky > http://rehmat1.com/2015/07/25/911-new-photos-prove-it-an-inside-job/ not to dismiss holocaust denial (spare the link), is more prone to making an a** of herself much like funwithmusic does whenever her posts flow into a tirade of complete and utter nonsense. As for anything inasmuch as evidence or truth that may lead one to speculate on whether or not 911 was an inside job, if you can please point that out, then do so, otherwise, posts such as the above are better off being ignored.
8/25/2015 7:13:26 AM
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from srv63: I see you still coming up with allot of blather(a word your fellow shill likes using), but yet nothing of real substance to give good reason to question my eyewitness Barry Jennings so, his accounts of 9/11 stand and your spineless witness is a liar Speaking of blather ^^^.
8/25/2015 7:14:22 AM
higgy51 Navarro, CA 61, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from srv63: I see you still coming up with allot of blather(a word your fellow shill likes using), but yet nothing of real substance to give good reason to question my eyewitness Barry Jennings so, his accounts of 9/11 stand and your spineless witness is a liar He isn't MY witness, he's a CONSPIRACY SITE witness, this is what you are struggling to understand! Read this from a Conspiracy site... http://911blogger.com/node/17829. Now, you will see that I have BOLDED the number 3 Hess made this statement while being interviewed by Frank Ucciardo of UPN 9 News “on Broadway about a block from City Hall,” almost a half mile from WTC 7. This interview began before noon, most likely at 11:34. The conclusion that it began at 11:34 is based on evidence derived from a DVD containing UPN 9 programs from that morning, in which the Hess interview begins at the 57-minute mark. According to a note on the DVD itself, its video began at 10:37 AM, which would mean that the Hess interview began at 11:34. It is possible, however, that the video might have actually started at 11:00: At the 111-minute mark, the UPN 9 program switched to live coverage by CNN of a Taliban news conference, and the only reference we have been able to find to this coverage indicates that it began at 12:51.[3] This would mean that the video began at 11:00 and the Hess interview, therefore, at 11:57. Nevertheless, whether the earlier or the later starting time is correct, UPN 9 News began interviewing Michael Hess before noon. Below is the 3 from http://www.austinchronicle.com/columns/2001-10-05/letters-at-3am/ Incredibly, at 12:51, there is footage of a Taliban news conference by one Wakil Ahmed Mutawakel. It is difficult to absorb that Arafat and the Taliban have weighed in before Bush. Five minutes later ABC reports that in Shreveport "the president looked grim. His eyes were somewhat red." The only hard information is that there are no national security people traveling with the president. ABC's Peter Jennings, breaking protocol for news anchors, says forcefully that the country needs words from its president in Washington. Now you see srv, we have TWO sources with times to prove that Hess was being interviewed BEFORE 1pm so how we they rescued at or after 1pm? Give it up srv, Jennings has said he was in the building before 9, after 9, rescued at 1pm, trapped for several hours (so how was he rescued at 1?). He's hardly a worthy witness..he's like you, changes his story when it suits him. Continue reading from a conspiracy site srv, you might learn something! Please note that this site is AGAINST the official report, not for it, AGAINST it. According to NIST, therefore, what Hess and Jennings took to be an explosion in WTC 7 was really just an effect of the collapse of the North Tower. That collapse occurred at 10:28. Accordingly, if the two men were then trapped for about 90 minutes before they were rescued, this rescue must have occurred at about noon---hence NIST’s claim that they were rescued at “12:10 to 12:15 PM.” NIST’s timeline is clearly implausible. Claiming that Hess and Jennings started down the stairs after the collapse of the South Tower caused the elevator to fail, NIST implies that it took them 29 minutes---from 9:59 to 10:28---to descend from the 23rd floor to the 6th floor. NIST’s timeline is also directly contradicted by the testimony of Jennings, who said: “After getting to the 8th floor everything was dark . . . . oth buildings were still standing. Because I looked . . . one way, looked the other way. . . . oth buildings were still standing.” [8] The strongest evidence against NIST’s timeline, however, is Hess’s interview with UPN 9 News. Defenders of the official account, according to which there were no explosions in WTC 7, might challenge the truth of Jennings’s testimony. But if Hess was giving an interview almost a half mile away before noon, then NIST’s timeline, according to which the two men were not rescued until after noon, is objectively disproved. This is the case whether we accept the 11:34 or the 11:57 starting time for this interview. Given the fact that the interview occurred almost a half mile from the WTC, it would probably have taken Hess at least a half hour to get there after he was rescued (he surely would have talked to firefighters and other officials about the ordeal before taking off). So if the interview began at 11:34, he and Jennings would have been rescued before 11:05. If the interview began at 11:57, they would have been rescued before 11:30. In either case, NIST’s explanation for the event that Hess and Jennings took to be a massive explosion in WTC 7 itself is disproved. If the two men were rescued before 11:05 after having been trapped, as Hess said, for about 90 minutes, the event must have occurred before 9:35. Even if they were not rescued until closer to 11:30, the event must have occurred at least by 10:00. In either case, the event could not have been the collapse of the North Tower, which did not occur until 10:28. That said, I endorse the earlier times---11:34 for the beginning of the Hess interview, 11:05 or earlier for the rescue, and 9:35 or earlier for the explosion---for three reasons. First, the note on the DVD says that the video started at 11:34. Second, the account by Hess and Jennings suggests that they would have reached the 6th floor, where the landing was knocked out from under them, at about 9:15. Third, whereas the later times would suggest that this event occurred around 10:00, Jennings stated, as we saw, that after the explosion occurred and he and Hess made it back up to the 8th floor, the South Tower, which collapsed at 9:59, was still standing.
8/25/2015 10:15:13 AM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Higgy, Since you are a believer of Hess, explain to us what he meant when he said that as him and Jennings were getting down to the 6th floor by means of the stairs,they couldn't go any further because they ran into a wall and the stairwell was full of debris and smoke. Where did this mysterious wall come from and what caused it?
8/25/2015 12:21:41 PM
longbobby Lufkin, TX 54, joined Aug. 2010	Quote from tragicparrot: Rather than appear as though your plagiarizing, the least you could do is add a couple quotation marks or simply link to the source. This is straight out of Karin Friedmann's (aka Maria Hussain) blog post (see linky > http://karinfriedemann.blogspot.com/2009/03/talking-to-jews-or-not.html who, when it comes to various topics such as "The Boston Marathon Bombing" (see linky > http://www.wcvb.com/news/is-this-trickery-survivor-says-holding-prosthetic-leg-out-to-tsarnaev-supporters/30293698 or 911 (see linky > http://rehmat1.com/2015/07/25/911-new-photos-prove-it-an-inside-job/ not to dismiss holocaust denial (spare the link), is more prone to making an a of herself much like funwithmusic does whenever her posts flow into a tirade of complete and utter nonsense. As for anything inasmuch as evidence or truth that may lead one to speculate on whether or not 911 was an inside job, if you can please point that out, then do so, otherwise, posts such as the above are better off being ignored. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for your opinion; erroneous though it is, but your opinion doesn't do the least little thing towards proving Ms. Friedman nor Muse is in any way incorrect about radical jewist militants. Back on topic. Senior Military, Intelligence, and Government Officials Question 9/11 Commission Report** http://www.wanttoknow.inf/officialsquestion911commissionreport#Baer I guess all of these people are fools too. NOT! I doubt if you will take the time to go over the entire list of credential people who know 9/11 was an inside job. Look at this list of prominent Americans who question the official lie. These people are Democrats and Republicans. Military and Intelligence people. SCIENTISTS!!!
8/25/2015 1:52:49 PM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from tragicparrot: Speaking of blather ^^^. I noticed you side stepped the diagonal cut main column. Why is that parrot? Here i was bragging on you thinking that your the only likely candidate that would be willing and able to explain to us the reason for the cutting slag being on the OUTSIDE of the column when it should have been on the inside. Could it be a topic that you rather not discuss?
8/25/2015 1:55:07 PM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from tragicparrot: Speaking of blather ^^^. I noticed you side stepped the diagonal cut main column. Why is that parrot? Here i was bragging on you thinking that your the only likely candidate that would be willing and able to explain to us the reason for the cutting slag being on the OUTSIDE of the column when it should have been on the inside. Could it be a topic that you rather not discuss? After you do explain that one away, please explain the most probable reason for the cleanup crews cutting that main column diagonally. We await your response
8/25/2015 2:16:38 PM
longbobby Lufkin, TX 54, joined Aug. 2010	Gen. Wesley Clark Says Pentagon Had Plan in 2001 to Attack Seven Countries in Five Years http://warisacrime.org/node/19200 911 was the false flag attack used as a pretext to kick off the invasions.
8/25/2015 2:24:16 PM
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from longbobby: Quote from tragicparrot: Rather than appear as though your plagiarizing, the least you could do is add a couple quotation marks or simply link to the source. This is straight out of Karin Friedmann's (aka Maria Hussain) blog post (see linky > http://karinfriedemann.blogspot.com/2009/03/talking-to-jews-or-not.html who, when it comes to various topics such as "The Boston Marathon Bombing" (see linky > http://www.wcvb.com/news/is-this-trickery-survivor-says-holding-prosthetic-leg-out-to-tsarnaev-supporters/30293698 or 911 (see linky > http://rehmat1.com/2015/07/25/911-new-photos-prove-it-an-inside-job/ not to dismiss holocaust denial (spare the link), is more prone to making an a of herself much like funwithmusic does whenever her posts flow into a tirade of complete and utter nonsense. As for anything inasmuch as evidence or truth that may lead one to speculate on whether or not 911 was an inside job, if you can please point that out, then do so, otherwise, posts such as the above are better off being ignored. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for your opinion; erroneous though it is, but your opinion doesn't do the least little thing towards proving Ms. Friedman nor Muse is in any way incorrect about radical jewist militants. Back on topic. Senior Military, Intelligence, and Government Officials Question 9/11 Commission Report** http://www.wanttoknow.inf/officialsquestion911commissionreport#Baer I guess all of these people are fools too. NOT! I doubt if you will take the time to go over the entire list of credential people who know 9/11 was an inside job. Look at this list of prominent Americans who question the official lie. These people are Democrats and Republicans. Military and Intelligence people. SCIENTISTS!!! Impressive list you've got there. Well, hope you didn't think I was going to answer to all these folks, but anyways, any chance they came up with anything yet? Wonder what their current status is given this little tidbit from March of this year... ""Yet agency Director James Comey, while acknowledging the inquiry was still "alive,'' said there is no evidence so far that unknown others assisted in carrying out the most deadly terrorist assault in American history. "We have no credible evidence that there were additional assisters or funders,'' the director said."" Linky... http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/25/911-fbi-investigation/70423820/ And more can be found here... ""The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and the technology magazine Popular Mechanics have investigated and rejected the claims made by 9/11 conspiracy theories.[16][17] The civil engineering community accepts that the impacts of jet aircraft at high speeds in combination with subsequent fires, not controlled demolition, led to the collapse of the Twin Towers.[18][19] This also was the conclusion of the 9/11 Commission, chaired by Governor Thomas Kean."" Linky... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories
8/25/2015 2:30:48 PM
higgy51 Navarro, CA 61, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from srv63: Higgy, Since you are a believer of Hess, explain to us what he meant when he said that as him and Jennings were getting down to the 6th floor by means of the stairs,they couldn't go any further because they ran into a wall and the stairwell was full of debris and smoke. Where did this mysterious wall come from and what caused it? Did he say that? Even if he did, what has that to do with the time-frame?
8/25/2015 2:33:58 PM
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from srv63: I noticed you side stepped the diagonal cut main column. Why is that parrot? Here i was bragging on you thinking that your the only likely candidate that would be willing and able to explain to us the reason for the cutting slag being on the OUTSIDE of the column when it should have been on the inside. Could it be a topic that you rather not discuss? After you do explain that one away, please explain the most probable reason for the cleanup crews cutting that main column diagonally. We await your response That's because it had already been covered extensively by Higgy. Besides, I have better things to do than have to put up with, among other things, your grammatical errors.
8/25/2015 2:52:35 PM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from higgy51: Did he say that? Even if he did, what has that to do with the time-frame? You don't know what your own witness said? Explain the wall higgy because if i didn't know any better, he was coached on giving that bs story so that he wouldn't have to explain why he didn't go down the rest of the stairs to the lobby to escape. Why would your LIAR witness go down to the 6th floor then stop higgy? Could it be because THERE WERE NO MORE STAIRS? I can't wait for your excuses
8/25/2015 2:57:48 PM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from tragicparrot: That's because it had already been covered extensively by Higgy. Besides, I have better things to do than have to put up with, among other things, your grammatical errors. So you would rather criticize my grammar rather than answer the very legitimate question of why the slag from cutting that main column is on the outside, instead of the inside of the column? I think your really dumbfounded and have no answers yet. Were waiting parrot, inquiring minds really want to know. By the way, higgy has not came up with anything whatsoever yet [Edited 8/25/2015 3:00:18 PM ]
8/25/2015 3:19:52 PM
57channels Bettendorf, IA 64, joined May. 2008 online now!	tragic ""The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and the technology magazine Popular Mechanics have investigated and rejected the claims made by 9/11 conspiracy theories.[16][17] The civil engineering community accepts that the impacts of jet aircraft at high speeds in combination with subsequent fires, not controlled demolition, led to the collapse of the Twin Towers.[18][19] This also was the conclusion of the 9/11 Commission, chaired by Governor Thomas Kean."" ============================================================ 1 question for you tragic...a simple yes or no please If the perps that pulled off 9-11 ordered NIST and Popular Mechanics and the 9-11 Commission to say that the big bad wolf huffed and puffed and blew the towers down....would you also believe that?? Yes or No??????
8/25/2015 3:36:09 PM
markjetson Albuquerque, NM 59, joined Jan. 2013	These cats are victims of there belief systems, they're hard headed, stubborn, narrow minded SOBs, I k,now, my best friend used to be too, (he still is about some sht) he's a Texan redneck, Conservative, who always had to be right, who really believed the Towers were brought down by burning "office supplies, curtain and paper." It was a long road but eventually his a* woke-up. It's the "Spinning Silhouette Illusion." It's spinning to the right and nobody can convince them otherwise, but by starring at the feet the dam thing reverses. By examining the evidence the dam official story reverses.
8/25/2015 4:51:32 PM
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Well nothing of any substance or value from the truthers since my last visit.
8/25/2015 4:56:00 PM
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63: I see you still coming up with allot of blather(a word your fellow shill likes using), but yet nothing of real substance to give good reason to question my eyewitness Barry Jennings so, his accounts of 9/11 stand and your spineless witness is a liar Why is it you haven't been able to demonstrate that Hess is a liar, or Catalano for that matter? It's because you can't. So why should anyone believe you? Logic and 9/11 truth have never met.
8/25/2015 5:54:20 PM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from class5: Why is it you haven't been able to demonstrate that Hess is a liar, or Catalano for that matter? It's because you can't. So why should anyone believe you? Logic and 9/11 truth have never met. Why is it that you refuse to explain what your liar witness hess meant when he claimed that they got down to the 6th floor to escape and a "wall" kept them from going further? Why cant you you explain why the cutting slag is on the outside and not on the inside of the main column at ground zero? Come on shill, earn your damn paycheck
8/25/2015 6:02:18 PM
longbobby Lufkin, TX 54, joined Aug. 2010	CNN, FOX, MSNBC, CBS, ABC and NBC and all of their affiliates reported "HUGE EXPLOSIONS". Check this out: Aaron Brown, huge explosion, 09:59, 9/11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt21ixkmlow
8/25/2015 6:02:57 PM
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63: Why is it that you refuse to explain what your liar witness hess meant when he claimed that they got down to the 6th floor to escape and a "wall" kept them from going further? It is irrelevant and you never asked me so your accusation of 'refused to explain' is highly mendacious. Why can't you debate honestly? Why cant you you explain why the cutting slag is on the outside and not on the inside of the main column at ground zero? Come on shill, earn your damn paycheck More fking idiotic insults. Why do you feel it is necessary to behave like an ahole all the time? Seriously, keep up this shit and I'll ignore you as I've had enough of your petty and childish squabbling. Grow up Dipshit! Again because you are so stupid: The burden of proof lies with you. Why do you find the cut so strange for a start? You haven't explained that as I've seen similar cuts throughout my site experience. You're the one arguing from incredulity, while I think it is completely inconsequential.
8/25/2015 6:05:04 PM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from markjetson: These cats are victims of there belief systems, they're hard headed, stubborn, narrow minded SOBs, I k,now, my best friend used to be too, (he still is about some sht) he's a Texan redneck, Conservative, who always had to be right, who really believed the Towers were brought down by burning "office supplies, curtain and paper." It was a long road but eventually his a* woke-up. It's the "Spinning Silhouette Illusion." It's spinning to the right and nobody can convince them otherwise, but by starring at the feet the dam thing reverses. By examining the evidence the dam official story reverses. You are completely wrong in thinking that these broke assed clowns are dumb enough to believe any of the crap that they post. I'm convinced without a doubt that they are either too lazy to find a real job or they are disabled or too old to do so and just to make ends meet, are payed thru the government to go online and try like hell to make truthers look like nutcases or liars. They government paid shills are no different than the murders that pulled 9/11 off and should be hung with the rest of the conspirators. Government paid shills are not a damn bit better than a child molester or a prostitute.
8/25/2015 6:19:37 PM
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63: You are completely wrong in thinking that these broke assed clowns are dumb enough to believe any of the crap that they post. I'm convinced without a doubt that they are either too lazy to find a real job or they are disabled or too old to do so and just to make ends meet, are payed thru the government to go online and try like hell to make truthers look like nutcases or liars. They government paid shills are no different than the murders that pulled 9/11 off and should be hung with the rest of the conspirators. Government paid shills are not a damn bit better than a child molester or a prostitute. And more ignorant lies and junk. You are a failure as a human being. Pathetic!
8/25/2015 8:13:28 PM
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from srv63: So you would rather criticize my grammar rather than answer the very legitimate question of why the slag from cutting that main column is on the outside, instead of the inside of the column? I think your really dumbfounded and have no answers yet. Were waiting parrot, inquiring minds really want to know. By the way, higgy has not came up with anything whatsoever yet What source can you come up with that provides evidence the angled cut or cuts (just in case you might find one or two more) your referring to weren't made during the cleanup operation? Has anyone in your so called "truth movement" ever consulted with members of the cleanup crew or other FDNY official as to why or when such an angle cut was ever made? Also, can you explain why a hole appears in this photo courtesy of one longbobby? Note the arrow... By chance have you ever heard of an oxygen lance or "boring hole"? Ever hear of the Hobart weld talk forum? Linky... http://www.hobartwelders.com/weldtalk/showthread.php?19417-A-metal-cutting-question&highlight=thermite One more quickie. Why is it there are relatively so few photos of these "angled cuts" given the shear amount of columns used to support both WTC's? After all, according to 57channels, even "the big bad wolf" couldn't do that much damage. Awaiting your answers.
8/25/2015 8:23:53 PM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from class5: Why is it you haven't been able to demonstrate that Hess is a liar, or Catalano for that matter? It's because you can't. So why should anyone believe you? Logic and 9/11 truth have never met. Just to be fair and open minded, i was looking on youtube for any Catalano interviews and guess what? There are none. Is he just another false eyewitness like hess?
8/25/2015 8:43:55 PM
progrocknic Mount Arlington, NJ 31, joined Dec. 2012 online now!	Quote from class5: And more ignorant lies and junk. You are a failure as a human being. Pathetic! No one needs to get paid to make truthers look like idiots. All you have to do is let them talk.
8/25/2015 9:03:19 PM
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63:Just to be fair and open minded, i was looking on youtube for any Catalano interviews and guess what? There are none. Is he just another false eyewitness like hess? Jesus Christ! I only posted a link to his full transcript earlier in the thread. If it isn't on BOOBTOOB it doesn't exist? It's like dealing with infants. [Edited 8/25/2015 9:04:19 PM ]
8/25/2015 9:04:02 PM
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from progrocknic:No one needs to get paid to make truthers look like idiots. All you have to do is let them talk. They shoot themselves.
8/25/2015 9:21:08 PM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from class5: More fking idiotic insults. Why do you feel it is necessary to behave like an ahole all the time? Seriously, keep up this shit and I'll ignore you as I've had enough of your petty and childish squabbling. Grow up Dipshit! Again because you are so stupid: The burden of proof lies with you. Why do you find the cut so strange for a start? You haven't explained that as I've seen similar cuts throughout my site experience. You're the one arguing from incredulity, while I think it is completely inconsequential. First off, i asked you what your liar eyewitness michael hess meant when he said that while he and Barry Jennings were trying to escape WTC7, that they got as far as the 6th floor then there appeared "A WALL" that stopped them from going any further down the stairwell. Now your response to my question is, and i quote: "It is irrelevant and you never asked me so your accusation of 'refused to explain' is highly mendacious.Why can't you debate honestly?" You DUMBASS supposedly back up your LYING COWARD of a witness over Barry Jennings testimony and you have no clue what your LIAR eyewitness means by "the wall" and then you tell me it is irrelevant? Really? You ask why i'm such an a*hole and why i insult you? Get used to it pal, it's how i treat anyone and everyone that i have 0 respect for. YOU are a stooge,paid government shill that would sell your butthole to the highest bidder and your not a DAMN BIT better than a god damn child molester, actually your worse. A child molester steals the innocents of one or maybe a few, whereas you help your molester bosses rape a whole nation.If the shoe fits btch, wear it. Btw, i couldn't give a rats a if you do leave this forum, it will survive without you. The purpose of this forum is for individuals to throw around ideas on how 9/11 was pulled off and share knowledge about the 9/11 events therefore enlightening us all with FACTS and NOT some bullshit government report that makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. What this forum does not need is for some obvious payed shills to try SABOTAGING the forum as well as TRYING to discredit us Truthers because we don't share your agenda. As far as the cut on the main column in the photo at ground zero, you should IMMEDIATELY see the problemS IF you really ever worked on a construction site. Looks to me you know nothing about plasma cutting or oxygen/acetylene cutting or else you would be able to read the story of the slag on the front of that diagonal cut beam as well as the carbon flow of the diagonal cuts. That column IS the smoking gun that PROVES your nist report to be bullshit! I never had frequented any of you shills "excuse of debunking" 9/11 websites so if you can bring bullshit from them sites to TRY and debunking my knowledge/expertise in welding, by all means bring it on but be ready to have your a handed to you!!
8/25/2015 9:32:48 PM
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63:First off, i asked you what your liar eyewitness michael hess meant when he said that while he and Barry Jennings were trying to escape WTC7, that they got as far as the 6th floor then there appeared "A WALL" that stopped them from going any further down the stairwell. Now your response to my question is, and i quote: "It is irrelevant and you never asked me so your accusation of 'refused to explain' is highly mendacious.Why can't you debate honestly?" Asshole, you said I 'refused to explain' when you hadn't even asked me. I don't respond favourably to Jerks who lie and make false accusations. You are a liar, a dupe and a sucker without morals. You aren't even a man. You DUMBASS supposedly back up your LYING COWARD of a witness over Barry Jennings testimony and you have no clue what your LIAR eyewitness means by "the wall" and then you tell me it is irrelevant? Really? Yes, it means nothing in the big picture. As far as the cut on the main column in the photo at ground zero, you should IMMEDIATELY see the problemS IF you really ever worked on a construction site. Looks to me you know nothing about plasma cutting or oxygen/acetylene cutting or else you would be able to read the story of the slag on the front of that diagonal cut beam as well as the carbon flow of the diagonal cuts. That column IS the smoking gun that PROVES your nist report to be bullshit! More rants with no supporting evidence except the word of a welder. Everyone is wrong except you. I didn't even bother with the rest of this empty headed rant, as I'm tired of reading the rants of fools. [Edited 8/25/2015 9:34:30 PM ]
8/25/2015 10:03:58 PM
longbobby Lufkin, TX 54, joined Aug. 2010	We're ready this time, schmutzig juden.
8/25/2015 10:25:06 PM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from tragicparrot: What source can you come up with that provides evidence the angled cut or cuts (just in case you might find one or two more) your referring to weren't made during the cleanup operation? Has anyone in your so called "truth movement" ever consulted with members of the cleanup crew or other FDNY official as to why or when such an angle cut was ever made? Also, can you explain why a hole appears in this photo courtesy of one longbobby? Note the arrow... First off, i'm not part of any "Truth Movement" yet, but from what i have been enlightened to thru all of this research of facts surrounding 9/11, joining a movement is not out of the question. Since i am not part of any movement, i have not joined any of their sites therefore i don't know if they might have anything on the diagonal cut columns so no, i don't know of anyone interviewing the ground crews on why they made them cuts diagonally. All i can say is, in ALL demolition jobs that i have worked on, your a** is IMMEDIATELY fired and ran off the job if you make a stupid cut like that on ANY load bearing support.As i stated before, that cut is a disaster SURELY to happen! By chance have you ever heard of an oxygen lance or "boring hole"? Yes, i have used a lance before. It was designed as a cutting extension to where welders can expose it to a hi heat restrictive area without the acetylene being ignited, atleast that was what i was taught. I rarely, and hated using it.I already ruled out the lance being used thru that hole that you mentioned with the red arrow in the photo, because if you look close at the angle of the cut of the front of the column where all of the slag is hanging down, you will see that the cut is not diagonal thru the steel like the rest of the cuts thru the column itself, the cut is OPPOSITE of what it should be.The cut comes 45 degrees from the bottom of the inside of the column and it is cut upwards at a 45 degree angle towards the outside of the column and the flow of slag on the front of the column PROVES it. A lance would have been IMPOSSIBLE to have made that cut. Ever hear of the Hobart weld talk forum? Linky... http://www.hobartwelders.com/weldtalk/showthread.php?19417-A-metal-cutting-question&highlight=thermite One more quickie. Why is it there are relatively so few photos of these "angled cuts" given the shear amount of columns used to support both WTC's? After all, according to 57channels, even "the big bad wolf" couldn't do that much damage. Actually, the question should be WHY would there be EVEN ONE cut thru a column like that, and WHY very few photos of ANY COLUMNS. Maybe the perpetrators didn't want it to be too obvious that all the main columns were diagonally cut? Ask the ones signing your check. Awaiting your answers. I'm still awaiting your answer on WHY there are 4 legs of the column (shown in yellow highlight) that were never cut thru so how did the cleanup crew supposedly remove the top part of the column from what's still left in the photo?
8/25/2015 10:33:25 PM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from class5: Quote from srv63:First off, i asked you what your liar eyewitness michael hess meant when he said that while he and Barry Jennings were trying to escape WTC7, that they got as far as the 6th floor then there appeared "A WALL" that stopped them from going any further down the stairwell. Now your response to my question is, and i quote: "It is irrelevant and you never asked me so your accusation of 'refused to explain' is highly mendacious.Why can't you debate honestly?" Asshole, you said I 'refused to explain' when you hadn't even asked me. I don't respond favourably to Jerks who lie and make false accusations. You are a liar, a dupe and a sucker without morals. You aren't even a man. You DUMBASS supposedly back up your LYING COWARD of a witness over Barry Jennings testimony and you have no clue what your LIAR eyewitness means by "the wall" and then you tell me it is irrelevant? Really? Yes, it means nothing in the big picture. As far as the cut on the main column in the photo at ground zero, you should IMMEDIATELY see the problemS IF you really ever worked on a construction site. Looks to me you know nothing about plasma cutting or oxygen/acetylene cutting or else you would be able to read the story of the slag on the front of that diagonal cut beam as well as the carbon flow of the diagonal cuts. That column IS the smoking gun that PROVES your nist report to be bullshit! More rants with no supporting evidence except the word of a welder. Everyone is wrong except you. I didn't even bother with the rest of this empty headed rant, as I'm tired of reading the rants of fools. Dim-wit, you have no idea how much you just exposed yourself to any unbias neutral reader. Great job. Consider hess officially debunked
8/25/2015 10:42:58 PM
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from srv63: I'm still awaiting your answer on WHY there are 4 legs of the column (shown in yellow highlight) that were never cut thru so how did the cleanup crew supposedly remove the top part of the column from what's still left in the photo? Seeings how its obvious the upper portion of the column has been removed, whats there to indicate the 4 areas highlighted in yellow were never cut through? Unless of course they were cut in order to facilitate the removal of leftover debris?
8/25/2015 10:47:22 PM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from tragicparrot: Seeings how its obvious the upper portion of the column has been removed, whats there to indicate the 4 areas highlighted in yellow were never cut through? Unless of course they were cut in order to facilitate the removal of leftover debris? That makes no sense whatsoever
8/25/2015 10:48:16 PM
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from srv63: I'm still awaiting your answer on WHY there are 4 legs of the column (shown in yellow highlight) that were never cut thru so how did the cleanup crew supposedly remove the top part of the column from what's still left in the photo? BTW, you never asked me this until now. Whats up with this BS?
8/25/2015 10:51:33 PM
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from srv63: That makes no sense whatsoever That's because your blind. So where did the rest of that column go?
8/25/2015 10:56:19 PM
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	How can the WTC collapse if as you just stated the columns were never cut through srv63?
8/25/2015 10:56:47 PM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from class5: Quote from srv63:Just to be fair and open minded, i was looking on youtube for any Catalano interviews and guess what? There are none. Is he just another false eyewitness like hess? Jesus Christ! I only posted a link to his full transcript earlier in the thread. If it isn't on BOOBTOOB it doesn't exist? It's like dealing with infants. I'm not wasting my time with reading some bullshit made up transcript that i'm sure was DAYS after 9/11 when the culprits realised that Jennings was not going to change his EYEWITNESS accounts. I have a transcript showing i was in WTC2 right where the planes c*ckpit hit. Are you going to believe me too dimwit? I want SOLID evidence not some made up bullshit.
8/25/2015 11:04:48 PM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from tragicparrot: BTW, you never asked me this until now. Whats up with this BS? Actually, yes i did ask that question when i first had bobby post the photo for me. I was addressing all shills with the questions
8/25/2015 11:31:33 PM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from tragicparrot: How can the WTC collapse if as you just stated the columns were never cut through srv63? As the photo of that main column PROVES, 80% of the column was cut thru with some kind of thermite/nanothermite/thermate leaving 4 legs at each corner to barely hold the immense weight of the building but explosives were used on the upper columns to fold them inward therefore causing the main columns upper section to the column pictured to fall inwards therefore ripping it from the column in the photo then the upper part of the column slides off of the bottom section of the column (pictured) and crashes to the ground.If you want a clearer picture, i'm sure a demo expert could enlighten you.
8/26/2015 12:44:38 AM
higgy51 Navarro, CA 61, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from srv63: You don't know what your own witness said? Explain the wall higgy because if i didn't know any better, he was coached on giving that bs story so that he wouldn't have to explain why he didn't go down the rest of the stairs to the lobby to escape. Why would your LIAR witness go down to the 6th floor then stop higgy? Could it be because THERE WERE NO MORE STAIRS? I can't wait for your excuses What excuses? I said what does the wall have to do with the time-frame? I don't have to explain anything about a wall or a floor, it had and has nothing to do with the time frame evidence I have posted from a VERY WELL KNOWN conspiracy site that refutes your Mr Jenning's version. Yes, maybe there were no more stairs for them to go down, maybe they hit a brick wall, that isn't in dispute and never has, it is just you clutching at straws and trying your usual diversion tactics. Your MO isn't it? When confronted with evidence and logic, you try to change the subject. You do that all the time, ignore and change subjects, just like you are doing now when you have been shown that maybe you Jennings was wrong in his time frame, again! Just like you constantly ignored the French scientist claims of yours. What you lack is two or three things. Balls - lack balls to admit you might be wrong and posted the wrong information. Logic - a distinct lack of logic especially when you are shown logical time frames from a conspiracy site that supports your side, a site that tries it's hardest to debunk the NIST report - and it did in this instance - yet you call them liars and hang all your hopes and claims on ONE man who seems to be confused about the time...he was in the building before 9, then changed it to after 9. Says He was trapped for SEVERAL hours, but rescued at 1pm. Credibility - you have a severe lack of credibility srv. You are regarded as an idiot, a vile mouth immature 'man'. You have to resort to childish and immature rants when confronted with facts. You make false and empty claims and promises, just like the way you were going to blow us all out of the water about the Pentagon some 100 pages ago. That, like the rest of your idiotic claims and rants, seems to have fallen away just like your other threatening claims. They are, in reality, like your head, empty and devoid of substance. You are asked for proof, you fail to provide any and unless it is on YouTube it doesn't exist. Basically and in a nutshell srv, you are are moron, a man lacking in balls, a man lacking in any logical train of thought and a conspiracy theorist that claims his own kind are liars and shills. You don't have a lot going for you do you? Now that has been said, care to try to debunk the time-frame provided by your own kind and the cast iron proof that due to the change of channels to the Taliban, that Hess was in fact being interviewed just before noon (and therefore debunking the NIST time frame claim)?
8/26/2015 2:48:48 AM
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63:Dim-wit, you have no idea how much you just exposed yourself to any unbias neutral reader. Great job. Consider hess officially debunked No I didn't. I'm just sick of reading your moronic shit and I don't care what you have to say at all. You're a dckhead and I have nothing but contempt for your opinion. As usual the obvious flew right over your empty head. Basically Scum, go f*k yourself. I'm done with your childish garbage and the fact that you are a low-life piece of shit clears my conscience. Stick it up your arse you failure of a human and get back to me when you've conquered puberty. I'm not interested in any more low level debating from idiots like you. You are a time waster; a liar; a bottom feeder and an idiot who should have been aborted at birth.
8/26/2015 2:53:03 AM
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from srv63:I'm not wasting my time with reading some bullshit made up transcript that i'm sure was DAYS after 9/11 when the culprits realised that Jennings was not going to change his EYEWITNESS accounts. I have a transcript showing i was in WTC2 right where the planes cckpit hit. Are you going to believe me too dimwit? I want SOLID evidence not some made up bullshit. Ok. Fk off then. You wouldn't even read it if I posted it for you Asshole. I don't care what you think anymore because you're a Dckhead. You are a waste of oxygen.
8/26/2015 2:56:53 AM
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from higgy51:What excuses? I said what does the wall have to do with the time-frame? I don't have to explain anything about a wall or a floor, it had and has nothing to do with the time frame evidence I have posted from a VERY WELL KNOWN conspiracy site that refutes your Mr Jenning's version. Yes, maybe there were no more stairs for them to go down, maybe they hit a brick wall, that isn't in dispute and never has, it is just you clutching at straws and trying your usual diversion tactics. Your MO isn't it? When confronted with evidence and logic, you try to change the subject. You do that all the time, ignore and change subjects, just like you are doing now when you have been shown that maybe you Jennings was wrong in his time frame, again! Just like you constantly ignored the French scientist claims of yours. What you lack is two or three things. Balls - lack balls to admit you might be wrong and posted the wrong information. Logic - a distinct lack of logic especially when you are shown logical time frames from a conspiracy site that supports your side, a site that tries it's hardest to debunk the NIST report - and it did in this instance - yet you call them liars and hang all your hopes and claims on ONE man who seems to be confused about the time...he was in the building before 9, then changed it to after 9. Says He was trapped for SEVERAL hours, but rescued at 1pm. Credibility - you have a severe lack of credibility srv. You are regarded as an idiot, a vile mouth immature 'man'. You have to resort to childish and immature rants when confronted with facts. You make false and empty claims and promises, just like the way you were going to blow us all out of the water about the Pentagon some 100 pages ago. That, like the rest of your idiotic claims and rants, seems to have fallen away just like your other threatening claims. They are, in reality, like your head, empty and devoid of substance. You are asked for proof, you fail to provide any and unless it is on YouTube it doesn't exist. Basically and in a nutshell srv, you are are moron, a man lacking in balls, a man lacking in any logical train of thought and a conspiracy theorist that claims his own kind are liars and shills. You don't have a lot going for you do you? Now that has been said, care to try to debunk the time-frame provided by your own kind and the cast iron proof that due to the change of channels to the Taliban, that Hess was in fact being interviewed just before noon (and therefore debunking the NIST time frame claim)? Well said Higgy. I'm over the way this piece of shit behaves. He is a waste of a life.
8/26/2015 3:15:37 AM
class5 Queensland Australia 52, joined Jan. 2014	The 'shill' accusation is bad enough, but all CTist's say that without thinking. It's just an auto-response from them and they don't have the skills to question the failure in logic behind their own accusation. Fair enough, if they had skills in logic they would not be CTists. But, the accusation of being 'molesters' is beyond the pale and if SRV was in front of me, I'd have to ring him an ambulance. That was the last straw for me from this piece of pond scum.
8/26/2015 6:44:54 AM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from class5: The 'shill' accusation is bad enough, but all CTist's say that without thinking. It's just an auto-response from them and they don't have the skills to question the failure in logic behind their own accusation. Fair enough, if they had skills in logic they would not be CTists. But, the accusation of being 'molesters' is beyond the pale and if SRV was in front of me, I'd have to ring him an ambulance. That was the last straw for me from this piece of pond scum. You wouldn't be conscious to ring any ambulance, creampuff. Stay away from getting physical, you might break a nail.
8/26/2015 8:50:19 AM
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from srv63: [snip]........Yes, i have used a lance before. It was designed as a cutting extension to where welders can expose it to a hi heat restrictive area without the acetylene being ignited, atleast that was what i was taught. I rarely, and hated using it.I already ruled out the lance being used thru that hole that you mentioned with the red arrow in the photo, because if you look close at the angle of the cut of the front of the column where all of the slag is hanging down, you will see that the cut is not diagonal thru the steel like the rest of the cuts thru the column itself, the cut is OPPOSITE of what it should be.The cut comes 45 degrees from the bottom of the inside of the column and it is cut upwards at a 45 degree angle towards the outside of the column and the flow of slag on the front of the column PROVES it. A lance would have been IMPOSSIBLE to have made that cut. Given the column was hollow, its bottom edge would have been cut from the inside out using a common lance cutting technique which is consistent with a "bore hole" being used as an access point. Hence the flow of slag appears on the outside bottom section of the column because it was initially cut from the inside out , whereas the upper section, having been cut afterwards from the outside (which makes more sense for safety reasons), the slag would have been evident on the inside of the column as seen in the photo. Obvious, this lacks the evidence necessary to prove the cuts were made using thermite. However, it does prove your lance cutting experience is a bit lacking here.
8/26/2015 12:36:50 PM
57channels Bettendorf, IA 64, joined May. 2008 online now!	tragic ""The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and the technology magazine Popular Mechanics have investigated and rejected the claims made by 9/11 conspiracy theories.[16][17] The civil engineering community accepts that the impacts of jet aircraft at high speeds in combination with subsequent fires, not controlled demolition, led to the collapse of the Twin Towers.[18][19] This also was the conclusion of the 9/11 Commission, chaired by Governor Thomas Kean."" ============================================================ 1 question for you tragic...a simple yes or no please If the perps that pulled off 9-11 ordered NIST and Popular Mechanics and the 9-11 Commission to say that the big bad wolf huffed and puffed and blew the towers down....would you also believe that?? Yes or No??????
8/26/2015 1:18:52 PM
longbobby Lufkin, TX 54, joined Aug. 2010	The truth is deadly poison for Judaism and Zionism............. The truest words in Judaism……… *"To communicate anything with a Goy about our relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.* Found in both the Torah and the Talmud on Jewish Virtual Library site. This criminal cult, masquerading as religion and ethnicity, is going to CHOKE on what it hates and fears most – THE TRUTH.
8/26/2015 2:43:11 PM
tragicparrot Painesville, OH 57, joined Mar. 2014	Quote from 57channels: 1 question for you tragic...a simple yes or no please If the perps that pulled off 9-11 ordered NIST and Popular Mechanics and the 9-11 Commission to say that the big bad wolf huffed and puffed and blew the towers down....would you also believe that?? Yes or No?????? Remember when I asked you this question way back on page 182? ""57channels. How is it that enough airliner debris could be trucked in to suddenly fool thousands of people without anyone having noticed? Photographs, video's, and witnesses all proved there was no shortage of debris to be found within minutes after the attack..."" Seeings how you've already ignored numerous simple questions throughout this entire thread, how about answering this one first, then i'll answer yours? Fair enough?
8/26/2015 2:50:39 PM
higgy51 Navarro, CA 61, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from tragicparrot: Remember when I asked you this question way back on page 182? ""57channels. How is it that enough airliner debris could be trucked in to suddenly fool thousands of people without anyone having noticed? Photographs, video's, and witnesses all proved there was no shortage of debris to be found within minutes after the attack..."" Seeings how you've already ignored numerous simple questions throughout this entire thread, how about answering this one first, then i'll answer yours? Fair enough? Please don't hold your breath in the long, very long wait for a non answer.
8/26/2015 4:24:37 PM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from tragicparrot: Remember when I asked you this question way back on page 182? ""57channels. How is it that enough airliner debris could be trucked in to suddenly fool thousands of people without anyone having noticed? Photographs, video's, and witnesses all proved there was no shortage of debris to be found within minutes after the attack..."" Seeings how you've already ignored numerous simple questions throughout this entire thread, how about answering this one first, then i'll answer yours? Fair enough? Can you be more specific on which airliner debris your talking about parrot? I think i will have a very reasonable explanation for you. Do keep in mind tho, the pentacon had enough airliner debris to barely cover a wheelbarrow and shanksville well, it looked like maybe a wheelbarrow worth of tiny pieces as well so i'm sure your not talking about both of them sites now are you.
8/26/2015 4:35:27 PM
srv63 Baytown, TX 52, joined Jul. 2012	Quote from tragicparrot: Given the column was hollow, its bottom edge would have been cut from the inside out using a common lance cutting technique which is consistent with a "bore hole" being used as an access point. Hence the flow of slag appears on the outside bottom section of the column because it was initially cut from the inside out , whereas the upper section, having been cut afterwards from the outside (which makes more sense for safety reasons), the slag would have been evident on the inside of the column as seen in the photo. Obvious, this lacks the evidence necessary to prove the cuts were made using thermite. However, it does prove your lance cutting experience is a bit lacking here. Before i PROVE your theory wrong on the column being cut with a lance(since i do have experience with one and know its limitations),i would like you to answer a question first. Is this use of a lance your idea or was it one of the most likely methods of cutting the column suggested by one of your shill wannabe debunking websites? Answer the question then this welder will be glad to show you why its IMPOSSIBLE for the lance to have made that cut and i will give you the 4 reasons why.
8/26/2015 5:10:35 PM
57channels Bettendorf, IA 64, joined May. 2008 online now!	tragic Remember when I asked you this question way back on page 182? ""57channels. How is it that enough airliner debris could be trucked in to suddenly fool thousands of people without anyone having noticed? Photographs, video's, and witnesses all proved there was no shortage of debris to be found within minutes after the attack..."" Seeings how you've already ignored numerous simple questions throughout this entire thread, how about answering this one first, then i'll answer yours? Fair enough? ======================================================= Your talking about the tiny pieces of tin or aluminum that were planted on the lawn of the Pentagon??? There were people in suits and ties and women in dresses walking in a line at the Pentagon picking up very small pieces of debri. That in itself is a crime.......tampering with evidence...but Im sure none of them were arrested -- now were they? They were just doing their job picking up tiny pieces of the missile that struck the Pentagon...so the FBI didnt have to do it later...is my best guess.

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