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and how is it that all 3 1/2 of you shills as well as the occasional shills that pop in from time to time,


As usual, you haven't been able to demonstrate that anyone is a shill. We all know it's just a childish term intended to bait and flame.

all agree 100% on how the events unfolded that day of 9/11 and lets not forget that you shills also agree 100% with the official government accounts.


Logic and reason. You believe stories that are just crazy and illogical. I don't discount the accepted version of events purely because I have an inherent mistrust of government. That would be absurd. I use logic and reason to determine the validity of an hypothesis, and that is why none of your stories stand up to scrutiny.

Try not to focus on the individual and do try to stick to the topics. These evasive tactics are boring.





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[Edited 8/9/2015 2:47:11 PM ]

8/7/2015 9:13:08 PM  

longbobby
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Quote from tragicparrot:
I'll allow yasureoktoo to speak for himself. Oh, and BTW, i'm of pure German descent, dumb ass. So where's your credibility pertaining to 911? Is it in this post or the next one?
========================================

Are you claiming there is no such thing as German Jews?

No such thing as German Zionists who deny jewish involvement in 911 14 years later?

Equivocate much?

e·quiv·o·ca·tion
/i?kwiv?'kaSH(?)n/
noun

1. the use of ambiguous language to conceal the truth or to avoid committing oneself; prevarication.

"I say this without equivocation"

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8/7/2015 9:19:32 PM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
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Quote from 57channels:
SRV

Could it be because they cowered down when their lives were threatened and said whatever they were told?
======================================================
Its called the game of life. I'm sure there are some that say " F**k you and stick your threats up your a** " soooooo then they threaten their family members....and then its 99-100% the fix is in...I will say or do whatever you want. It has been that way since the beginning of man.........and always will be.

The rich and powerful will always get their way. First they try and buy them off I think, then they blackmail them if they cant buy them off, and last they threaten them or kill them or their families.


I tell ya what, i see myself as no bad a** in any kind of way but bet your a** when it's time, the traitors are gonna get a hell of allot more from me than a "f**k you"

8/7/2015 9:23:54 PM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
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Quote from 57channels:
The people who said they saw a jet crash into the Pentagon were either 10 times losers who needed the money or govt. plants that had 10 aliases who couldnt be tracked by anyone trying to figure out who they really are. Fake names to go along with the fake planes, fake hijackers, fake videos ect.ect.


The ones that claim to have seen a plane hit the pentacon ARE paid plants, no doubts in my mind.When interviewed, their testimony was ripped to shreds and proven wrong.

8/7/2015 9:32:43 PM Lufkin, TX  

progrocknic
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Quote from srv63:
The ones that claim to have seen a plane hit the pentacon ARE paid plants, no doubts in my mind.When interviewed, their testimony was ripped to shreds and proven wrong.




8/7/2015 9:53:23 PM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
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Quote from progrocknic:


I used to think that your ignorant a** might be a shill in training but now i'm starting to think and i believe the shills that you look up to, might also agree with me when i say that your most likely a burden, even to the retarded community

8/7/2015 9:54:46 PM Lufkin, TX  

progrocknic
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Quote from srv63:


8/8/2015 2:34:25 AM Lufkin, TX  
higgy51
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Quote from srv63:
You call that shit that you posted, a timeline? You have wayyyyyyyyy too much lead way there and are going to have to be more exact on the timeline of each event so that i can punch huge holes in it, or is that the reason for such a big lead way


Hahahahaha, you couldn't punch holes in a wet paper bag.

You've been asked for proof of a timeline numerous times, you come up with nothing, as always.

The ONLY time frame you have is that Jennings was on his way to work when he got a phone call about the first plane hitting, that was after 8.46 and logic would accept that time of the call would be after 9pm.

The fact that the OEM room was empty (evacuated by 9.45) when he got there would lead a LOGICAL train of thought that he and Hess didn't get into the building until at least 9.30 - when they were setting up the triage.

We are so waiting for YOUR EXACT time frame post srv!!

8/8/2015 2:43:09 AM Lufkin, TX  
higgy51
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Quote from srv63:
The ones that claim to have seen a plane hit the pentacon ARE paid plants, no doubts in my mind.When interviewed, their testimony was ripped to shreds and proven wrong.


And this sheer STUPIDITY is the reason why this thread is just about finished with.

Witnesses are PAID PLANTS, absolutely and totally ridiculous....and the stock answer from conspiracy retards that have no logical thoughts in their feeble and miniscule brains.

None of these idiots have debunked a thing, they have been debunked countless times and then they come back with a new slant on things.

Ask them questions, they dance away, they run and hide or like the proverbial ostrich, bury their head in the sand in the hope they won't be seen.

I look forward to the next conspiracy theory coming from the mouth of these stupid people.

Paid witnesses, ridiculous.

8/8/2015 6:53:48 AM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
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Quote from higgy51:
And this sheer STUPIDITY is the reason why this thread is just about finished with.

Witnesses are PAID PLANTS, absolutely and totally ridiculous....and the stock answer from conspiracy retards that have no logical thoughts in their feeble and miniscule brains.

None of these idiots have debunked a thing, they have been debunked countless times and then they come back with a new slant on things.

Ask them questions, they dance away, they run and hide or like the proverbial ostrich, bury their head in the sand in the hope they won't be seen.

I look forward to the next conspiracy theory coming from the mouth of these stupid people.

Paid witnesses, ridiculous.


Well dumb ass, what would you say if some idiot told you that they watched a plane pass in front of them very close to the ground and they watched it for 1 MINUTE before it hits the pentacon? YOU are retarded as they are if you see nothing wrong with that picture

8/8/2015 10:07:06 AM Lufkin, TX  

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Quote from longbobby:
Quote from tragicparrot:
I'll allow yasureoktoo to speak for himself. Oh, and BTW, i'm of pure German descent, dumb ass. So where's your credibility pertaining to 911? Is it in this post or the next one?
========================================

Are you claiming there is no such thing as German Jews?

No such thing as German Zionists who deny jewish involvement in 911 14 years later?

Equivocate much?

e·quiv·o·ca·tion
/i?kwiv?'kaSH(?)n/
noun

1. the use of ambiguous language to conceal the truth or to avoid committing oneself; prevarication.

"I say this without equivocation"


14 years later and this is all you can come up with? Your anti-Semitism has obviously clouded your judgement here. Worse yet, you probably have more Jewish blood than I do in which your lack of input is a direct result of some form of inner conflict. I suggest you get help soon in hopes that in another 14 years you can come up with something that might make sense.

8/8/2015 10:21:30 AM Lufkin, TX  

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Quote from srv63:


8/8/2015 11:28:57 AM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
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Quote from progrocknic:


The poster of this crap shows the true intelligence of a shill.No wonder we have to hold their hands and walk them thru all of the facts and just hope they are able to grasp it all.No wonder the Truthers now far outnumber the sheeple making the paid shills job impossible on deceiving us any longer. The traitors are going down, it's just a matter of how soon

8/8/2015 11:30:37 AM Lufkin, TX  

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Quote from srv63:


8/8/2015 8:16:04 PM Lufkin, TX  

class5
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Quote from srv63:
Question is, why would you agree with the accounts of hess and catalano? Could it be because they cowered down when their lives were threatened and said whatever they were told?


No, Idiot. Why did you feel the need to post something so stupid?



Clearly you only agree with accounts that confirm your prejudice.



8/8/2015 8:22:50 PM Lufkin, TX  

class5
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Quote from srv63:
So tell us, what is your reason for being here in this forum


Being a member of the International Skeptics society, it is our desire to expose fraud and scams wherever we find them.

8/8/2015 8:25:33 PM Lufkin, TX  

class5
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Prog, those sum up the content of SRV's posts beautifully!



8/8/2015 8:41:41 PM Lufkin, TX  

longbobby
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FOURTEEN INCREDIBLE FACTS ABOUT 9/11
Published: August 8, 2015

As the 14th anniversary of 9/11 approaches, it’s important to remind people that we still don’t know what happened that day. What is known about 9/11 is that there are many incredible facts that continue to be ignored by the government and the mainstream media. Here are fourteen.

1. An outline of what was to become the 9/11 Commission Report was produced before the investigation began. The outline was kept secret from the Commission’s staff and appears to have determined the outcome of the investigation.

2. The 9/11 Commission claimed sixty-three (63) times in its Report that it could find “no evidence” related to important aspects of the crimes.

3. One person, Shayna Steiger, issued 12 visas to the alleged hijackers in Saudi Arabia. Steiger issued some of the visas without interviewing the applicants and fought with another employee at the embassy who tried to prevent her lax approach.

4. Before 9/11, the nation’s leading counter-terrorism expert repeatedly notified his friends in the United Arab Emirates of top-secret U.S. plans to capture Osama bin Laden. These treasonous leaks prevented Bin Laden’s capture on at least two separate occasions.

5. Former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger was caught stealing documents from the National Archives that had been requested by the 9/11 Commission. The Commission had previously been denied access to the documents but the White House reluctantly agreed to turn them over just as Berger was trying to steal them..

6. The official story of the failed air defenses on 9/11 was changed several times and, in the end, paradoxically exonerated the military by saying that the military had lied many times about its response. The man who was behind several of the changing accounts was a specialist in political warfare (i.e. propaganda).

7. Military exercises being conducted on the day of 9/11 mimicked the attacks as they were occurring and obstructed the response to the attacks. NORAD commander Ralph Eberhart sponsored those exercises, failed to do his job that day, and later lied to Congress about it (if the 9/11 Commission account is true).

8. A third skyscraper collapsed late in the afternoon on 9/11. This was WTC 7, a 47-story building that the government’s final report says fell into its own footprint due to office fires. The building’s tenants included U.S. intelligence agencies and a company led in part by Donald Rumsfeld and D*ck Cheney. Meetings were scheduled there to discuss terrorism and explosives on the morning of 9/11.

9. News agencies, including BBC and CNN, announced the destruction of WTC 7 long before it happened. One BBC reporter announced the collapse while viewers could see the still-standing building right behind her in the video. Years later, after claiming that it had lost the tapes and then found them again, BBC’s answer to this astonishing report was that everything was just “confusing and chaotic” that day. Of course, one problem with this is that the news agencies predicted the exact building, of the many damaged in the area, that would collapse. Another big problem is that no one could have possibly predicted the collapse of WTC 7 given the unprecedented and unbelievable official account for how that happened.

10. Construction of the new, 52-story WTC 7 was completed two years before the government knew what happened to the first WTC 7. In fact, when the new building was completed in 2006, the spokesman for the government investigation said, “We’ve had trouble getting a handle on building No. 7.” The construction of the new building, without regard for how the first one was destroyed, indicates that building construction professionals in New York City did not believe it could ever happen again.

11. Ultimately, building construction codes were not changed as a result of the root causes cited by the National Institute for Standards and Technology for destruction of the World Trade Center (WTC) buildings. This fact shows that the international building construction community does not believe that the WTC buildings were destroyed as stated in the official account.

12. AMEC, the company that just finished rebuilding the exact spot where Flight 77 was said to hit, was put in charge of cleanup at the WTC and the Pentagon. The man who ran the company, Peter Janson, was a long-time business associate of Donald Rumsfeld.

13. The response of the U.S. Secret Service to the 9/11 attacks suggests foreknowledge of the events in that the agency failed to protect the president from the obvious danger posed by terrorists.

14. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission notified the FBI of suspected 9/11 insider trading transactions. That evidence was ignored and the suspects were not even questioned by the FBI or the 9/11 Commission.

There are, of course, many more incredible facts about 9/11 that continue to be ignored by authorities and much of the media. Let’s hope that the next major terrorist attack results in legitimate reporting and unified calls for truth before fourteen years have passed.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Fourteen_Incredible_Facts_About_911/45560/0/38/38/Y/M.html

8/8/2015 9:23:24 PM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
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Quote from class5:
Prog, those sum up the content of SRV's posts beautifully!



Yep, your little b*tch shill is progressing nicely huh.Is she the pivot man?

8/8/2015 9:28:18 PM Lufkin, TX  

longbobby
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Quote from srv63:
Yep, your little b*tch shill is progressing nicely huh.Is she the pivot man?
------------------------

More like the straight man to the comedian. Prog = Bud Abbot....Noclass = Lou Costello.

8/8/2015 10:18:35 PM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
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Quote from class5:
Logic and reason. You believe stories that are just crazy and illogical. I don't discount the accepted version of events purely because I have an inherent mistrust of government. That would be absurd. I use logic and reason to determine the validity of an hypothesis, and that is why none of your stories stand up to scrutiny.

Try not to focus on the individual and do try to stick to the topics. These evasive tactics are boring.



Your a member of the international skeptics society? Great, can you pass the grey poooo -ponnn

And for your information, i knew their were evil in our government all the way back to the murder of JFK but i had no idea how big the problem was until 9/11 so don't try painting me as a lunatic anti government. I did not lose all respect for gooberment until after 9/11.

You say above: "You believe stories that are just crazy and illogical. I don't discount the accepted version of events purely because I have an inherent mistrust of government. That would be absurd. I use logic and reason to determine the validity of an hypothesis, and that is why none of your stories stand up to scrutiny."

Your accusing me of believing stories that are crazy and illogical?
YOU mental midgets are the ones that claim a HUGE Boeing 767 passenger plane with a wingspan of like 200 feet nicely fit COMPLETELY into a 12 FOOT HOLE in the pentacon.
YOU mental midgets are the ones that claim DIESEL FUEL weakened the 94 main columns in the twin towers that were each 4 FOOT WIDE by 3 FOOT DEEP and each of them made out of 6 INCHES THICK STEEL. Problem is, diesel fuel only gets to 1/3 of the temperature needed to start weakening steel.Now your gonna say well office desks and office supplies got the fire hotter.Problem with that is desks and office supplies get to even a lower temperature than diesel fuel.
YOU mental midgets are the ones claiming that a plane crashed in shanksville tho there's no plane.Then you mental midgets claim that the plane debris found 8 MILES
away from the fantasy crash site is that of flight 93.
YOU mental midgets tho i PROVED that Barry Jennings witnessed and heard explosions in WTC7 WAY BEFORE WTC1 collapsed, you try to change the timeline but no matter how much you try changing it, FACT IS Barry Jennings WITHOUT ANY DOUBTS heard and saw the explosions in WTC7 BEFORE WTC1 collapsed therefore it's IMPOSSIBLE for debris from WTC1 to have started the small office fires in WTC7.
YOU mental midgets claim that 19 hijackers died when crashing the planes into buildings but you CANNOT explain how 6 of them are fine and dandy in Saudi Arabia.

Do i need to go on?

8/8/2015 10:34:03 PM Lufkin, TX  

class5
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Quote from srv63:
Your a member of the international skeptics society? Great, can you pass the grey poooo -ponnn


And that sums up the level of thought I've come to expect from you.

And for your information, i knew their were evil in our government all the way back to the murder of JFK but i had no idea how big the problem was until 9/11 so don't try painting me as a lunatic anti government. I did not lose all respect for gooberment until after 9/11.


But you haven't been able to demonstrate the existence of this supposed 'evil' nor any connection to 9/11.

You say above: "You believe stories that are just crazy and illogical. I don't discount the accepted version of events purely because I have an inherent mistrust of government. That would be absurd. I use logic and reason to determine the validity of an hypothesis, and that is why none of your stories stand up to scrutiny."


Yes, I did state that and I stand by every word of it.

Your accusing me of believing stories that are crazy and illogical?


Yes. It took you this long to figure that out?


YOU mental midgets are the ones that claim a HUGE Boeing 767 passenger plane with a wingspan of like 200 feet nicely fit COMPLETELY into a 12 FOOT HOLE in the pentacon.


No-one ever said that. Your belief in a 12 foot hole is erroneous.


YOU mental midgets are the ones that claim DIESEL FUEL weakened the 94 main columns in the twin towers that were each 4 FOOT WIDE by 3 FOOT DEEP and each of them made out of 6 INCHES THICK STEEL.


No-one ever said that. Why is your comprehension so appalling?


Problem is, diesel fuel only gets to 1/3 of the temperature needed to start weakening steel.Now your gonna say well office desks and office supplies got the fire hotter.Problem with that is desks and office supplies get to even a lower temperature than diesel fuel.


You have no idea of what we've been saying regarding the fires if that is your belief. I know this is just a desperate downplay of the scale of the fires in order to try and give some credibility to the thermite tale, but no, it's not up to the task.

YOU mental midgets are the ones claiming that a plane crashed in shanksville tho there's no plane.


This thread alone has shown there is more evidence for the crash of UA93 than there is to say there isn't. The 'null' hypothesis then comes into effect as you haven't been able to disprove the existence of the craft.

Then you mental midgets claim that the plane debris found 8 MILES
away from the fantasy crash site is that of flight 93.


As you've been told that was just paper blown on the wind. Argument from incredulity fallacy.

YOU mental midgets tho i PROVED that Barry Jennings witnessed and heard explosions in WTC7 WAY BEFORE WTC1 collapsed, you try to change the timeline but no matter how much you try changing it, FACT IS Barry Jennings WITHOUT ANY DOUBTS heard and saw the explosions in WTC7 BEFORE WTC1 collapsed therefore it's IMPOSSIBLE for debris from WTC1 to have started the small office fires in WTC7.



No, clearly your timeline was incorrect, and this has been demonstrated adequately by other witness testimony, despite your protests.


YOU mental midgets claim that 19 hijackers died when crashing the planes into buildings but you CANNOT explain how 6 of them are fine and dandy in Saudi Arabia.


You haven't demonstrated 6 'are fine and dandy' living in Saudi Arabia.

Do i need to go on?


Please do, this misrepresentative pack of lies and poor comprehension is truly stunning.



8/8/2015 10:36:32 PM Lufkin, TX  

class5
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Quote from srv63:
Yep, your little b*tch shill is progressing nicely huh.Is she the pivot man?


And SRV breaks wind online yet again.

Do you know you're a dipshit, or are you oblivious to the extent of your stupidity?



8/9/2015 4:59:43 AM Lufkin, TX  

progrocknic
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Quote from srv63:


8/9/2015 9:17:26 AM Lufkin, TX  
higgy51
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Quote from srv63:
s but you CANNOT explain how 6 of them are fine and dandy in Saudi Arabia.

Do i need to go on?


Yes, [please do, we enjoy the laughs.

What 6?

Not once have you ever mentioned the Famous Six, so now we have a new 'fact of srv' to debunk.

What 6?

8/9/2015 11:12:48 AM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
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To ALL of the shills(except the retarded one with the IQ of a cartoon),

We are still waiting on you to PROVE that Barry Jennings HEARD and WITNESSED explosions in WTC7 AFTER the collapse of WTC1. If you cannot prove this then that means there is no way in hell that the official government bullshit story can be true claiming that the collapse of Word Trade Tower 1 is what started the TINY office fires in WTC7, therefore debunking your retarded governments story that office fires caused WTC7 to collapse.

We are waiting on you idiots to explain this away. PROVE me wrong then we will move on to the pentacon as well as the shanksville HOAX where you will be PROVED wrong again

8/9/2015 11:41:38 AM Lufkin, TX  
higgy51
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Quote from srv63:
To ALL of the shills(except the retarded one with the IQ of a cartoon),

We are still waiting on you to PROVE that Barry Jennings HEARD and WITNESSED explosions in WTC7 AFTER the collapse of WTC1. If you cannot prove this then that means there is no way in hell that the official government bullshit story can be true claiming that the collapse of Word Trade Tower 1 is what started the TINY office fires in WTC7, therefore debunking your retarded governments story that office fires caused WTC7 to collapse.

We are waiting on you idiots to explain this away. PROVE me wrong then we will move on to the pentacon as well as the shanksville HOAX where you will be PROVED wrong again


Ermmmm... I think you will find that we were waiting for YOU to provide some time line by Jennings and hess. I do believe that Class has already shown you a timeline of events, and now it is up to you to disprove that timeline with one of your own.

Now we have the Famous Six you mention.

8/9/2015 11:58:43 AM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
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Quote from higgy51:
Yes, [please do, we enjoy the laughs.

What 6?

Not once have you ever mentioned the Famous Six, so now we have a new 'fact of srv' to debunk.

What 6?


So your going to act ignorant on a FACT known for quite some time?

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

The muscle hijackers 'picked by bin Ladin':

Satam al Suqami, Wail and Waleed al Shehri (two brothers) Both Alive, Abdul Aziz al Omari Alive, Fayez Banihammad (from the UAE), Ahmed al Ghamdi, Hamza al Ghamdi, Mohand al Shehri Alive, Saeed al Ghamdi Alive, Ahmad al Haznawi, Ahmed al Nami Alive, Majed Moqed, and Salem al Hazmi Alive (the brother of Nawaf al Hazmi).

How can the 9/11 Commission be taken seriously when they refer to alive 'hijackers'?

8/9/2015 12:01:33 PM Lufkin, TX  
funwithmusic
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IT IS ISRA-HELL THAT IS SNEAKY...AND SUSPECTED OF THE WTC ATTACKS..AND IS KNOWN FOR A FACT THEY ATTACKED THE USS LIBERTY..proving they dont care about our alliance..ITS ALL ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT..and they use us like TAX SLAVES..AND GLADIATORS...making war for ISRA-HELL..PAYING FOR THE WARS IN BLOOD AND MONEY...

Is this the legacy you wich to hand down to your children and grandchildren?


Do you lie to your children..and teach them that Jews are Gods chosen people? THEN WHO IN HELL ARE THE FREAKING CHRISTIANS?????? THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH ANYONE THAT JEWS ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE OF GOD.....RABBIS TEACH THAT..

If you will take time to read for yourself..and stop listening to those JEW CONTROLLED PASTORS we have in many churches today..who even allow Corrupt Jewish Rabbis to come into our churches..and preach their KOL NIDRE LIES...Jews cannot interpret the scriptures..THE HOLY SPIRIT DOES THAT FOR MAN..and they do not have the Holy Spirit...Only those under Christ do..GENESIS 49:10..CHRIST IS THE TRIBE OF JUDAH TODAY..Remember what Jesus said in Rev 2:9 and 3:9..THE FAKE TRIBE OF JUDAH..THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN..


For US, Israel’s nuclear arsenal is the elephant in the room
The nuclear game
For US, Israel’s nuclear arsenal is the elephant in the room

In order to hold a sound debate, it is said, opposing sides must first have an agreed-upon set of facts, a common view of what constitutes reality. It’s no surprise, then, that debates about nuclear arms in the Middle East – including over Iran’s contentious nuclear programme – tend to run amok.

In this case, the reality in the region is that only one country, Israel, maintains a stockpile of the world’s most dangerous weapons. Despite this being exposed in 1986 by an Israeli whistle-blower, Mordechai Vanunu, Israel has never acknowledged its arsenal, estimated to be between 80 and 200 bombs. In what has since become the official line on its nukes, then-deputy defence minister Shimon Peres told US president John Kennedy in 1963: “Israel will not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons to the Middle East” – leveraging an almost comically narrow definition of the word “introduce”.

More curiously, Israel’s main backer, the United States, won’t acknowledge reality either.(((BECAUSE WERE CONTROLLED BY ZIONIST JEWS ))) Since a late-1960s agreement with Israel, US officials, ranging from members of Congress to nuclear scientists, are barred from publicly acknowledging Israel’s nuclear arsenal.

Last year, an analyst at a US government nuclear lab lost his job after mentioning Israel’s nukes in an academic journal article.

That ridiculous dynamic, however, may be giving way to tacit acknowledgement. A quiet shift occurred recently when the US defence department released a previously classified 1987 report on Israel’s nuclear research. It came to light as part of a Freedom of Information lawsuit by Grant Smith of the Institute for Research: Middle Eastern Policy.

Issued by the Pentagon-funded Institute for Defence Analysis (IDA), the report suggests US complicity in Israel’s development of its nuclear capabilities. William Greider, writing for The Nation magazine (to which I am a contributor), reported that the IDA’s findings “seem to hint at a copy-cat process in which the US government((ZIONIST CONTROLLED)) either actively helped or at least looked the other way while Israel borrowed or purloined technologies to establish a parallel nuclear system that looks a lot like America’s”.

The report doesn’t state outright that Israel has the bomb, but describes in detail an Israeli nuclear infrastructure of immense proportions.

The timing couldn’t be worse for Israel. Tensions with the US are high and prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu is feverishly working every lever of influence in America to block a potential nuclear deal with Iran.

Israel is the world’s most outspoken critic of Iran’s nuclear programme and a vociferous opponent of the diplomacy between Iran and world powers, including the US, to peacefully constrain that programme.

(((ZIONIST HYPOCRITES!!!)))Israel persistently calls for heightened transparency with regard to Iran’s programme – for example, by denouncing the reported deal on the table now for not going far enough. But what one academic calls “nuclear opacity” stands as a weak spot in Israel’s activism on Iran. Avner Cohen has said the policy is “anachronistic, even counterproductive”; indeed, the Iranians haven’t shied away from exploiting the hypocrisy as a propaganda cudgel against their regional foes.

After Mr Netanyahu’s speech to US Congress earlier this month, Iranian president Hassan Rouhani lashed out at the contradiction. “People of the world and America are too smart to take advice from [Israel],” he said, “which has pursued, produced and stockpiled a large number of atomic bombs in violation of international laws and away from the eyes of international inspectors.” Iran, he noted, is – unlike Israel – a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Because of its complicity in keeping Israel’s nuclear secret, the US takes a propaganda hit, too. Not least of the US aims at stake is that of a Nuclear Weapons-Free Zone in the Middle East. While Africa, Latin America, the South Pacific, South-east Asia and Central Asia have agree to go nuke-free, one of the world’s most explosive regions can’t even kick-start its conversation because of Israel’s posture.



THE SAMPSON OPTION is the Isra-helli option ..a threat put upon the world by ZIONIST JEWS..that if we dont do what they say...THE ZIONIST JEWS INTEND TO NUKE US...THE MORE POWER THEY GET AMONG NATIONS..THE MORE THIS THREAT WILL BECOME A POSSIBLITY..

I SAY...GIVE ALL MIDDLE EAST NATIONS ONE NUKE EACH.....to keep that ROUGE STATE OF ISRA-HELL IN CHECK...



8/9/2015 12:09:19 PM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
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Quote from Fun,

"I SAY...GIVE ALL MIDDLE EAST NATIONS ONE NUKE EACH.....to keep that ROUGE STATE OF ISRA-HELL IN CHECK... "

If israel is responsible for 9/11 which it really looks possible, then i say don't give the nukes to their neighbors but instead put a bow on each of them and send them first class airfreight armed and ready to israel

8/9/2015 12:17:22 PM Lufkin, TX  

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Quote from funwithmusic:



8/9/2015 12:19:08 PM Lufkin, TX  
higgy51
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Quote from srv63:
So your going to act ignorant on a FACT known for quite some time?

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

The muscle hijackers 'picked by bin Ladin':

Satam al Suqami, Wail and Waleed al Shehri (two brothers) Both Alive, Abdul Aziz al Omari Alive, Fayez Banihammad (from the UAE), Ahmed al Ghamdi, Hamza al Ghamdi, Mohand al Shehri Alive, Saeed al Ghamdi Alive, Ahmad al Haznawi, Ahmed al Nami Alive, Majed Moqed, and Salem al Hazmi Alive (the brother of Nawaf al Hazmi).

How can the 9/11 Commission be taken seriously when they refer to alive 'hijackers'?


Ignorant to the fact? I think you are mistaken. This is very OLD news and already debunked.


However, never heard of false names, stolen/lost passports, identity theft?

CNN) -- FBI Director Robert Mueller has acknowledged that some of those behind last week's terror attacks may have stolen the identification of other people, and, according to at least one security expert, it may have been "relatively easy" based on their level of sophistication.

Chris McGoey is a San Francisco, California-based security consultant who has worked with numerous major retailers on combating identity theft. He's seen hundreds of falsified IDs, and while he hasn't seen the ones used by the alleged September 11 hijackers, he offers some insight into how they could have been obtained.


Fake identities can be created in a couple of different ways, he says; the perpetrators could obtain information about an actual person to get duplicate materials, or they could establish a virtual individual from scratch. The latter would be more difficult, says McGoey, since it would require the creation of documents.

According to McGoey, the key information these hijackers would have needed is Social Security numbers (often the unique identifier for business use), driver's license numbers, and date of birth or birth certificates. From there, they could assemble a new identity. Even a person's address or name would help them get started. A passport or visa would be more difficult to forge, says McGoey, but not impossible.

And since state ID such as a driver's license or birth certificate often vary by state or county, he adds, it's almost impossible for service employees to verify the authenticity.

"If you take an L.A. birth certificate to New York, they're probably not going to have a clue as to whether it's official or not," says McGoey.

"Could a common criminal on the street do this stuff? No. They're not sophisticated enough. These (the hijackers) are people who researched, planned and studied. They likely didn't have to go to a forger to do it.

http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/09/21/inv.id.theft/

"A Saudi man has reported to authorities that he is the real Abdul Aziz Al-Omari, and claims his passport was stolen in 1995 while he studied electrical engineering at the University of Denver. Al-Omari says he informed police of the theft." - ABCNews

Cases of mistaken identity

Soon after the attacks and before the FBI had released the pictures of all the hijackers, several reports claimed some of the men named as hijackers on 9/11 were alive.[37][38] and had their identities stolen.[39][40][41]

8/9/2015 12:45:46 PM Lufkin, TX  

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higgy


CNN) -- FBI Director Robert Mueller has acknowledged that some of those behind last week's terror attacks may have stolen the identification of other people, and, according to at least one security expert, it may have been "relatively easy" based on their level of sophistication.
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Robert Mueller should spend the rest of his treasonous a** in prison for the rest of his life, and thats only because I am against the DP.

OH.......if the so-called hijackers used fake IDs---- how could the President name off all 19 of them within a couple days??????? You just debunked yourself Was the President lying???

8/9/2015 1:01:59 PM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
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In four years time, i have only blocked one douche bag.Cartoon kiddy wannabe shill is now blocked douche #2.

8/9/2015 1:20:21 PM Lufkin, TX  
higgy51
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Quote from 57channels:


OH.......if the so-called hijackers used fake IDs---- how could the President name off all 19 of them within a couple days??????? You just debunked yourself Was the President lying???


My god, even you can't be this dumb can you?

How did he know the names of the all the people that died?

PASSENGER LISTS you dumb shit!!

When they book tickets and book in, they give their NAMES.

These names are put on a LIST.

They are also put into the SEATING plans.

You really are dumber than the most moronic human being alive!

8/9/2015 1:28:02 PM Lufkin, TX  

progrocknic
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In four years time, i have only blocked one douche bag.Cartoon kiddy wannabe shill is now blocked douche #2.


This is what happens when you troll a troll.

8/9/2015 1:32:08 PM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
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Another thing that has boggled my common senses for quite some time. Thru all of the reports that i have read thru since "my awakening of the 9/11 hoax", i have often wondered why a major airline would go ahead and stick to its flight schedule and fly planes NOWHERE NEAR CAPACITY of passengers knowing damn well that they would be wasting fuel.Why wouldn't the airlines on all four flights cancel certain flights and put all passengers on the same planes together as long as the destinations were the same.Airlines are so chicken shit nowadays that they charge extra if you want to fly extra baggage but yet they are willing to waste thousands of gallons of fuel per day? I don't buy it the least bit.

Quote from article:

A lingering question is why the passenger loads on the four planes hijacked in U.S. skies are being described by industry officials as "very, very low.'' ... Through July, airlines in the United States reported flights on average were 71 percent capacity this year. [CNN 9/20/2001]
The total passenger seating capacity of the four 9/11 airliners was 762 people. There are 229 passengers and crew members on the four death lists issued by CNN (although this figure varies). The total number of passengers on the four airliners was only 26 percent of capacity.



8/9/2015 1:49:06 PM Lufkin, TX  
higgy51
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Quote from srv63:
Another thing that has boggled my common senses for quite some time. Thru all of the reports that i have read thru since "my awakening of the 9/11 hoax", i have often wondered why a major airline would go ahead and stick to its flight schedule and fly planes NOWHERE NEAR CAPACITY of passengers knowing damn well that they would be wasting fuel.Why wouldn't the airlines on all four flights cancel certain flights and put all passengers on the same planes together as long as the destinations were the same.Airlines are so chicken shit nowadays that they charge extra if you want to fly extra baggage but yet they are willing to waste thousands of gallons of fuel per day? I don't buy it the least bit.

Quote from article:

A lingering question is why the passenger loads on the four planes hijacked in U.S. skies are being described by industry officials as "very, very low.'' ... Through July, airlines in the United States reported flights on average were 71 percent capacity this year. [CNN 9/20/2001]
The total passenger seating capacity of the four 9/11 airliners was 762 people. There are 229 passengers and crew members on the four death lists issued by CNN (although this figure varies). The total number of passengers on the four airliners was only 26 percent of capacity.



Time to debunk again. You have used the average to obtain your 26%, however, the mark is closer to 32% and not 26%. (229 as a % of 762 is 30.05%)

You also use JULY as the benchmark, which is different to September when the schools are back in session and it was a week after a holiday! Not to mention that early morning flights are always lower than afternoon ones.

Anyway, here you are debunked again:



Excluding the hijackers, then Flight 11 had 76 passengers out of a capacity of 158, a load factor of 48.1%. The average over Tuesdays on the past three months is reported as "almost 39%", so the 9/11 flight was noticeably higher.

Flight 77 had 53 passengers out of a capacity of 176, a load factor of 30.1%. The average over Tuesdays on the past three months is reported as 32.8%, so the 9/11 flight was a little lower.

Flight 93 had 33 passengers out of a capacity of 182, a load factor of 18.1%. The average over Tuesdays on the past three months is reported as 52.8%, so the 9/11 flight was vastly lower, in fact the lowest at any time in that three month period.

Flight 175 had 51 passengers out of a capacity of 168, a load factor of 30.3%. The average over Tuesdays on the past three months is reported as 49%, so the 9/11 flight was considerably lower, although there were two flights during that three month period when it was lower still.

Overall, then, we have one flight with an above average load factor; one marginally below average; one well below average, though still within the range of other flights in the preceding 3 months; and one with the lowest load factor during that period.

8/9/2015 1:55:04 PM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
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My god, even you can't be this dumb can you?

How did he know the names of the all the people that died?

PASSENGER LISTS you dumb shit!!

When they book tickets and book in, they give their NAMES.

These names are put on a LIST.

They are also put into the SEATING plans.

You really are dumber than the most moronic human being alive!


I believe what 57 is asking is, out of 200 passengers that were supposedly on the 4 planes in question, how was the retard bush jr. able to confirm without a doubt who the hijackers were out of them 200 names on the list and how did he confirm that there were 19 and do this in only 2 days? We all know damn well that government NEVER moves that quick. They already knew the names and had the passports to plant WAY BEFORE 9/11.

Tell us old wise one, out of 19 ragheads that ALL supposedly had passports which were fake/stolen, what are the odds that NONE of them ragheads would be caught and detained because their passports were realized to have been fake? Also something else for you to ponder,how is a passport stolen in 1995 with technology/security what it was like even in 2001,that passport info not red flagged and alerts gone out when the so called hijackers supposedly used them 6 YEARS LATER on 9/11?

8/9/2015 2:06:05 PM Lufkin, TX  
higgy51
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Quote from srv63:
I believe what 57 is asking is, out of 200 passengers that were supposedly on the 4 planes in question, how was the retard bush jr. able to confirm without a doubt who the hijackers were out of them 200 names on the list and how did he confirm that there were 19 and do this in only 2 days? We all know damn well that government NEVER moves that quick. They already knew the names and had the passports to plant WAY BEFORE 9/11.

Tell us old wise one, out of 19 ragheads that ALL supposedly had passports which were fake/stolen, what are the odds that NONE of them ragheads would be caught and detained because their passports were realized to have been fake? Also something else for you to ponder,how is a passport stolen in 1995 with technology/security what it was like even in 2001,that passport info not red flagged and alerts gone out when the so called hijackers supposedly used them 6 YEARS LATER on 9/11?


Don't be as stupid as he is, even though you are 95% there already.

Let's think about this shall we?

200 names, 19 (plus maybe a few more) are not American names and not US citizens. Now, using what little logic you have, the CIA might just have sat and thought "hey, maybe these are the hijackers".

Now, another time to use some logic. You say 'after only 2 days'...this made me smile. Do you think that the CIA/FBI are just going to take their time in identifying the passenger lists and do back ground checks on the people traveling? Don't you think that they would have worked their butts off all day and night after the plane hit the Towers?

Gee, you really make me smile.

Passports:

Have you ever flown inter state? What do you need as ID to travel?

Now, these fake passports (if in fact there were any, no-one really knows for sure) are NOT on any "alert list" for travel within the USA as they are from Saudi Arabia..so they wouldn't have been checked by anyone on that day would they?

Does logic really fail you srv?

8/9/2015 2:11:14 PM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
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Quote from higgy51:
Time to debunk again. You have used the average to obtain your 26%, however, the mark is closer to 32% and not 26%. (229 as a % of 762 is 30.05%)

You also use JULY as the benchmark, which is different to September when the schools are back in session and it was a week after a holiday! Not to mention that early morning flights are always lower than afternoon ones.

Anyway, here you are debunked again:



Excluding the hijackers, then Flight 11 had 76 passengers out of a capacity of 158, a load factor of 48.1%. The average over Tuesdays on the past three months is reported as "almost 39%", so the 9/11 flight was noticeably higher.

Flight 77 had 53 passengers out of a capacity of 176, a load factor of 30.1%. The average over Tuesdays on the past three months is reported as 32.8%, so the 9/11 flight was a little lower.

Flight 93 had 33 passengers out of a capacity of 182, a load factor of 18.1%. The average over Tuesdays on the past three months is reported as 52.8%, so the 9/11 flight was vastly lower, in fact the lowest at any time in that three month period.

Flight 175 had 51 passengers out of a capacity of 168, a load factor of 30.3%. The average over Tuesdays on the past three months is reported as 49%, so the 9/11 flight was considerably lower, although there were two flights during that three month period when it was lower still.

Overall, then, we have one flight with an above average load factor; one marginally below average; one well below average, though still within the range of other flights in the preceding 3 months; and one with the lowest load factor during that period.


No need in getting a wanna-be hard-on higgy because as usual, you have not remotely got even close to debunking anything.Even if i give you your 30% capacity,it is still a WASTE OF FUEL therefore waste of profits and NO airline is going to allow their planes to fly at only 30% capacity unless they are TOLD TO.
I have flown a fair amount in my life and i have NEVER been on a plane with 30% capacity.Every damn time, it's like being squashed together in a sardine can

8/9/2015 2:26:56 PM Lufkin, TX  
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Quote from srv63:
No need in getting a wanna-be hard-on higgy because as usual, you have not remotely got even close to debunking anything.Even if i give you your 30% capacity,it is still a WASTE OF FUEL therefore waste of profits and NO airline is going to allow their planes to fly at only 30% capacity unless they are TOLD TO.
I have flown a fair amount in my life and i have NEVER been on a plane with 30% capacity.Every damn time, it's like being squashed together in a sardine can


Wasn't my 30%, it was yours, just your math like your logic is dead.

Let me get this straight, because you've never flown when the plane is 1/3 full, it can't happen?

Now, to add to your stupidity of a conspiracy nutcase, you now say that all FOUR planes and their owners were TOLD to fly by the Government?

If that is your stance, now we have airlines that are implicated in this mass murder claim of you and your ilk!

Amazing.

8/9/2015 2:37:16 PM Lufkin, TX  
higgy51
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SRV;

You may have missed this before, so I will post again as PROOF that arilinws do indeed fly with less than 30%;

Flight 175 had 51 passengers out of a capacity of 168, a load factor of 30.3%. The average over Tuesdays on the past three months is reported as 49%, so the 9/11 flight was considerably lower, although there were two flights during that three month period when it was lower still.

Notice that srv....TWO flights during the 3 month period were LOWER than 30% capacity.

I wonder if they were told to fly?

(Sorry for laughing)

8/9/2015 2:40:50 PM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
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Quote from higgy51:
Don't be as stupid as he is, even though you are 95% there already.

Let's think about this shall we?

200 names, 19 (plus maybe a few more) are not American names and not US citizens. Now, using what little logic you have, the CIA might just have sat and thought "hey, maybe these are the hijackers".

Now, another time to use some logic. You say 'after only 2 days'...this made me smile. Do you think that the CIA/FBI are just going to take their time in identifying the passenger lists and do back ground checks on the people traveling? Don't you think that they would have worked their butts off all day and night after the plane hit the Towers?

Gee, you really make me smile.

Passports:

Have you ever flown inter state? What do you need as ID to travel?

Now, these fake passports (if in fact there were any, no-one really knows for sure) are NOT on any "alert list" for travel within the USA as they are from Saudi Arabia..so they wouldn't have been checked by anyone on that day would they?

Does logic really fail you srv?


As usual, you don't grasp at what is being said.As i had ALREADY STATED with the one passport (for example)that was stolen in 1995, there WOULD be an alert already put out on that passport as well as the ID.Supposedly, there were ATLEAST 7 of the 19 supposed hijackers carrying them fake/stolen passports but yet NONE get detained and they are allowed to go on their merry way.I DO NOT buy it!

As far as your bullshit of inter-state flying goes, a picture ID like a drivers license is the bare minimum required to fly and even the DPS office is going to require some other form of ID such as your passport to be able to retain a drivers license.

Another thing you ding-a-lings fail to grasp is the 19 supposed hijackers took over the plane with plastic knives as well as box cutters.You mean to tell me that you want us to believe that 220 passengers cowered down to 19 hijackers with PLASTIC KNIVES AND BOX CUTTERS? BULL-F**KIN-SHIT

8/9/2015 2:45:35 PM Lufkin, TX  
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Quote from higgy51:
My god, even you can't be this dumb can you?

How did he know the names of the all the people that died?

PASSENGER LISTS you dumb shit!!

When they book tickets and book in, they give their NAMES.

These names are put on a LIST.

They are also put into the SEATING plans.

You really are dumber than the most moronic human being alive!


Gee Higgy..I hates to em-bare-ass you...BUT:



9/11: Israel's Grand Deception
Source: Mask of Zion



http://www.abeldanger.net/2015/03/911-israels-grand-deception.html

by Jonathan Azaziah
Friday, September 17, 2010

When an event occurs that changes the dynamics of the geopolitical spectrum, there is only one question that needs to be asked, no matter what kind of information is being force-fed to the public by the Zionist media: Who does this event benefit? The answer to this question is always: the Zionist elite. The official story presented to the masses in the laughable (and criminally false) 9/11 Commission Report, overseen by Zionist Philip Zelikow, is so dubious and so nonsensical in its arrogance, it is truly amazing that the story was swallowed by the world's population as truth to begin with. It doesn't take a scientist, an architect, or an engineer to determine that something other than planes brought down the Twin Towers and Building 7 at free-fall speed on that infamous day. Al-Qaeda, Arabic for 'The Base' (because it was the CIA's base of operations in Afghanistan), was not behind the September Eleventh attacks – the Mossad and its Zionist criminal network were. Wake up.


Shocking Prediction or Evidence of Planning? ((ZIONIST JEWS EXPOSED AS PERPS ON 9/11!!))

On September 23, 1979, a very disturbing interview took place between Zionist Michael D. Evans and founder of the Mossad, Isser Harel. Evans asked the former director of the Mossad if (Islamic) terrorism will eventually come to America. Harel proceeded to tell the American Zionist that terrorism will indeed come to the United States: the attack will take place in New York City, and it will be on its tallest building (1).

Isser Harel was asked to step down from his post as Mossad chief by the architect of al-Nakbah and notorious racist David Ben-Gurion, because his terrorist tactics were drawing too much attention to the Zionist State. Harel was behind the failed Lavon Affair of 1954, in which Egyptian-Israeli agents placed bombs inside British, American, and Egyptian targets, hoping Muslim groups would be blamed and Western relations with Egypt would be irrevocably damaged. He was also responsible for 'Operation Damocles', which left scores of German scientists, writers, and public officials dead under the guise of 'Nazi-hunting' (2). After his resignation and subsequent 'retirement', Harel remained involved with Mossad, serving as a consultant and advisor to the terrorist agency before it released any information to the public (3).





OK NOW HIGGY...ARE YOU READY FOR THIS.....YOU CALLED MY BUDDY A MORON..WHEN IN TRUTH..IT IS YOU WHO HAS NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED ON 9/11...unlike my people who are trying to tell you..but your head is made of cement..and your ears are closed..and your eyes are blind..


THERE WERE NO NAMES OF ARABS ON THE AIRLINE ROSTERS.....NO ARAB NAMES ON AIRLINE ROSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


continued:
Lies, Myths, and Propaganda of the Official Story

Any independent investigator's looking into the events leading up to, occurring during, and following 9/11, will automatically lead to their being labeled with the inflammatory and degrading title of 'conspiracy theorist'; however, a closer look at the evidence proves it is the ludicrous official story that is the only real conspiracy theory.

What the Zionist media has led the masses to believe is that 19 Muslim men, under orders of mastermind Osama bin Laden, with funding from various Muslim charities that were fronts for terrorist operations, hijacked 4 planes with box cutters; bypassed the $400 billion air defense system of the United States; flew the planes into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, with another plane going down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania; the Twin Towers then collapsed, followed by Building 7 (which wasn't struck by a plane, but collapsed anyway) several hours later.
Despite the US government's knowing absolutely nothing about the attacks, it knew who the hijackers were, who plotted the operation, where they were hiding, and how they carried out the terror in a matter of hours – though no formal investigation was conducted. That is the actual, literal, widely accepted mainstream theory. And it is pathetic.


CONTINUED

8/9/2015 2:46:27 PM Lufkin, TX  
funwithmusic
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CONTINUED



NOW PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS NEXT PARAGRAPH HIGGY...AND FEEL MY BOOT KICKING YOUR EM-BARE-ASS...***** I hate to do this to you..but you anger me with your mindless rants...and total ignorance of the real world you live in..You can lie to yourself..but you cannot lie to us..


NOW..CONTINUING THE ARTICLE IN 'ABEL DANGER'


There were no Arabic/Islamic names on the passenger lists released by United Airlines and American Airlines (10); so where did the Muslim men come from?

There were no Arabic/Islamic names on the passenger lists released by United Airlines and American Airlines (10); so where did the Muslim men come from?

There were no Arabic/Islamic names on the passenger lists released by United Airlines and American Airlines (10); so where did the Muslim men come from?

There were no Arabic/Islamic names on the passenger lists released by United Airlines and American Airlines (10); so where did the Muslim men come from?

At least 8 of the men who are said to be the suicidal hijackers by the FBI, are actually alive and well in various countries (11).


Osama bin Laden, whose name has been used to justify a genocidal occupation in Afghanistan that has claimed hundreds of thousands of innocent lives, is dead. It's been a known fact worldwide that he's been dead for 9 years; it's even been reported (perhaps out of intentional arrogance) by Mossad (12). Osama bin Laden worked for the CIA under the name of Tim Osman, and had numerous personal and financial ventures with the Bush crime family and the corrupt Saudi regime ((SAUDI ROYALS ARE ALSO JEWS)), extracting funds from both of them and taking orders from US intelligence until his death at the very end of 2001. If the CIA ever had any intention of arresting bin Laden to begin with, they would have done so when bin Laden met with CIA officials in Dubai just two months before 9/11 (13).

All the reports of Muslim charities' funding terror, the Al-Qaeda videos, and the bin Laden recordings have been the work of two Mossad-connected contractors.

The IntelCenter is run by Mossad agent Ben Venzke, and is notorious for releasing videos of an 'al-Qaeda' operative named Adam Yahiye Gadahn, whose real name has been revealed as Adam Pearlman; Pearlman is the grandson of a former director of Israel's propaganda arm, the ADL of B'nai B'rith (14). SITE Intelligence Group, founded by former IOF soldier Rita Katz, is the major provider of intelligence on 'Islamic terror groups' – not just for the Zionist media, but for the US Government's agencies as well (15).




YOUTUBE
Fake Al Qaeda Actors EXPOSED! Adam Gadahn & Yousef al-Khattab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUtvOW6SR0


Adams real name is Adam PEARLMAN...whos father is a board member of the ADL..AND MEMBER OF BNAI BRITH...

8/9/2015 2:48:37 PM Lufkin, TX  
higgy51
Over 2,000 Posts (3,527)
Navarro, CA
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Quote from srv63:
As usual, you don't grasp at what is being said.As i had ALREADY STATED with the one passport (for example)that was stolen in 1995, there WOULD be an alert already put out on that passport as well as the ID.Supposedly, there were ATLEAST 7 of the 19 supposed hijackers carrying them fake/stolen passports but yet NONE get detained and they are allowed to go on their merry way.I DO NOT buy it!

As far as your bullshit of inter-state flying goes, a picture ID like a drivers license is the bare minimum required to fly and even the DPS office is going to require some other form of ID such as your passport to be able to retain a drivers license.



Of course you don't buy it..it is logical and that is why you don't buy it.

Okay, you answered the question, a picture ID is needed, so a passport would suffice...a photo looking very much like the holder (because it would have been HIS photo) would pass the loose check back in those days.

Stolen passports from Saudi Arabia in 1995 would not be on the USA radar, stolen or fake passports would not ring alarm bells at the LAX airport, the name and the photo would fit the person booking the seat and traveling on the plane.


The alert for the stolen passport would have been put on alert, yes, for once you are correct, but in Saudi, and NOT in the USA!!


LOGIC.

Please DO TRY and think srv, try and think with a logical train of thought, it prevents you looking dumber than 57 and that is DUMB.

8/9/2015 2:49:11 PM Lufkin, TX  
funwithmusic
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (15,407)
Chapel Hill, NC
60, joined Feb. 2007


Quote from higgy51:
My god, even you can't be this dumb can you?

How did he know the names of the all the people that died?

PASSENGER LISTS you dumb shit!!

When they book tickets and book in, they give their NAMES.

These names are put on a LIST.

They are also put into the SEATING plans.

You really are dumber than the most moronic human being alive!


http://www.abeldanger.net/2015/03/911-israels-grand-deception.html

There were no Arabic/Islamic names on the passenger lists released by United Airlines and American Airlines (10); so where did the Muslim men come from?

There were no Arabic/Islamic names on the passenger lists released by United Airlines and American Airlines (10); so where did the Muslim men come from?

There were no Arabic/Islamic names on the passenger lists released by United Airlines and American Airlines (10); so where did the Muslim men come from?

There were no Arabic/Islamic names on the passenger lists released by United Airlines and American Airlines (10); so where did the Muslim men come from?

At least 8 of the men who are said to be the suicidal hijackers by the FBI, are actually alive and well in various countries (11).


WHOS THE DUMMY NOW....Look into the mirror...



[Edited 8/9/2015 2:49:56 PM ]

8/9/2015 2:51:33 PM Lufkin, TX  
higgy51
Over 2,000 Posts (3,527)
Navarro, CA
61, joined Nov. 2012


Fun;

Just to let you know, I didn't read anything of your earlier posts, too long and all about jews, and I am not interested.

However, I now see that the list has moved from 6, to 7 and now 8!

"At least 8 of the men who are said to be the suicidal hijackers by the FBI, are actually alive and well in various countries"

Will you people ever make your minds up as to the correct numbers?

8/9/2015 3:38:11 PM Lufkin, TX  
funwithmusic
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (15,407)
Chapel Hill, NC
60, joined Feb. 2007


Quote from higgy51:
Fun;

Just to let you know, I didn't read anything of your earlier posts, too long and all about jews, and I am not interested.

However, I now see that the list has moved from 6, to 7 and now 8!

"At least 8 of the men who are said to be the suicidal hijackers by the FBI, are actually alive and well in various countries"

Will you people ever make your minds up as to the correct numbers?


You dont read..which is why you remain ignorant.

You cannot learn about history just by reading the READERS DIGEST short story version


You need to grow up...and read the long posts...

I read all of them..All my kind does..

Thats why were smarter than you progressives..and Jewbots..

We take the time..to read BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY..

You BOTS only repeat what you hear..cause thats the easy to feel like your a part of something...when your not...

You are incapable to maintain honest debates due to your lack of knowledge SO YOU CALL US NAMES..and attack our character...

Its obvious that your kind are programmed to say certain things when we state facts..is annoying to those of us who love this country..AND INTEND TO MAKE SURE ALL AMERICANS LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT WHO REALLY ATTACKED THE WTC......THE USS LIBERTY..AND THE USS COLE...THE MARINE BARRACKS...ETC....


ITS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME HIGGY..WHEN THE TRUTH WILL BE KNOWN TO ALL AMERICANS..

THE TSUNAMI OF TRUTH..IS IN MOTION..AND NO ONE CAN STOP IT NOW.. Not you Jewbots..Zionists...Sayanim...corrupt media..and other corrupt individuals that work among you...

SOON..THERE WILL BE MASSIVE TRIALS CHARGING MANY WITH TREASON..


ISRA-HELL WILL FILL UP WITH ALL THE ZIONIST GLOBAL CRIMINALS..
.and then the end will come..as the nations of the world attack (Zechariah) that HOME OF DEVILS ..THE HARLOT RELIGION..AND HOME OF THE GLOBAL GOV..as stated in the book of REVELATION 11:8, 17:1, 17:18, 18:10, 18:2-3, 18:23-24..

Take Note that ..in Zechariah..Judah is the Messiah Jesus..not the Jews...proven by this scripture GENESIS 49:10...SEE HOW LONG AGO THE MESSIAH WAS PROPHESIED TO COME...and the lying Edomite Rabbis have tried to hide this fact for over 2,000 years.....

Judaism is the Jews Edomite religion..It has nothing to do with the Hebrew religion..They do not adhere to the bible..but to the Babylon Talmud..a book written by corrupt...greedy power mad money mongering Rabbis...




[Edited 8/9/2015 3:39:34 PM ]

8/9/2015 3:52:37 PM Lufkin, TX  
higgy51
Over 2,000 Posts (3,527)
Navarro, CA
61, joined Nov. 2012


Fun, as I have already told you, as soon as you start banging on about the jews and some f**king religious shit, I pass you by...many do.

No-one is interested in your religious chants.

I tell you what you can do though, here is a challenge for you.

You mention that no muslim names were found on the passenger lists.

I challenge you to prove that. Produce the passenger lists.

8/9/2015 4:33:14 PM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,613)
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from higgy51:
Fun, as I have already told you, as soon as you start banging on about the jews and some f**king religious shit, I pass you by...many do.

No-one is interested in your religious chants.

I tell you what you can do though, here is a challenge for you.

You mention that no muslim names were found on the passenger lists.

I challenge you to prove that. Produce the passenger lists.


While Fun is working on your request, i would like PROOF that Barry Jennings COULD NOT have heard or experienced explosions in WTC7 until AFTER WTC1 collapsed

8/9/2015 4:46:06 PM Lufkin, TX  
higgy51
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Navarro, CA
61, joined Nov. 2012


Quote from srv63:
While Fun is working on your request, i would like PROOF that Barry Jennings COULD NOT have heard or experienced explosions in WTC7 until AFTER WTC1 collapsed


You and I both know she won't come back with anything, she never does. She and you are alike, you just keep going round and round and avoid the awkward questions and requests for proof.

You had had proof with the time frame given to you. He wasn't in the wtc7 until after it was evacuated, that is why no-one was in the OEC.

The ONLY time frame we know of Jennings was that he was on his way to work when the 1st plane hit. We have no other time frames from him, so It is now up to you to produce your own timeline.

Why do you keep going around in circles about this? You know you cannot prove Jennings heard the explosions before the collapse and to be very honest with you, neither can we prove he didn't hear them. The only thing we have 'on our side' is the time frames already shown to you and you cannot and have not come up with anything to the contrary.

In case you forget, Hess admitted he heard no explosions.

Jennings was a muslim and therefore he was a paid plant by the terrorists to make it look as if the Government was to blame; that is so obvious.

8/9/2015 4:53:40 PM Lufkin, TX  

class5
Over 2,000 Posts (2,518)
Queensland
Australia
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Quote from srv63:
PROVE me wrong then we will move on to the pentacon as well as the shanksville HOAX where you will be PROVED wrong again


OMG, this again. LOLOL You won't do a damn thing.



8/9/2015 4:56:20 PM Lufkin, TX  

class5
Over 2,000 Posts (2,518)
Queensland
Australia
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Quote from higgy51:
Fun, as I have already told you, as soon as you start banging on about the jews and some f**king religious shit, I pass you by...many do.

No-one is interested in your religious chants.

I tell you what you can do though, here is a challenge for you.

You mention that no muslim names were found on the passenger lists.

I challenge you to prove that. Produce the passenger lists.


Like most truthers, she is confusing the published list of the dead with the passenger lists.

I too just scroll past her shit now.



8/9/2015 4:57:30 PM Lufkin, TX  

class5
Over 2,000 Posts (2,518)
Queensland
Australia
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Quote from srv63:
In four years time, i have only blocked one douche bag.Cartoon kiddy wannabe shill is now blocked douche #2.


Don't worry, I'll quote him so you can keep up to date with his posts.



8/9/2015 5:05:54 PM Lufkin, TX  

class5
Over 2,000 Posts (2,518)
Queensland
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Quote from higgy51:
You and I both know she won't come back with anything, she never does. She and you are alike, you just keep going round and round and avoid the awkward questions and requests for proof.

You had had proof with the time frame given to you. He wasn't in the wtc7 until after it was evacuated, that is why no-one was in the OEC.

The ONLY time frame we know of Jennings was that he was on his way to work when the 1st plane hit. We have no other time frames from him, so It is now up to you to produce your own timeline.

Why do you keep going around in circles about this? You know you cannot prove Jennings heard the explosions before the collapse and to be very honest with you, neither can we prove he didn't hear them. The only thing we have 'on our side' is the time frames already shown to you and you cannot and have not come up with anything to the contrary.

In case you forget, Hess admitted he heard no explosions.

Jennings was a muslim and therefore he was a paid plant by the terrorists to make it look as if the Government was to blame; that is so obvious.


I agree, Jennings had to have arrived after 9:45 as the OEM had been evacuated by that time (NIST). SRV's timeline just doesn't stand up, and he is ignoring this fact. Perhaps he is ignoring it because it is in the NIST report, and he has an irrational mistrust of that document despite never having read it.

And as you say Hess doesn't support his testimony, so why does he choose one over the other?



8/9/2015 5:06:51 PM Lufkin, TX  
higgy51
Over 2,000 Posts (3,527)
Navarro, CA
61, joined Nov. 2012


Quote from class5:
Like most truthers, she is confusing the published list of the dead with the passenger lists.





That is why we know she won't come back because she will fail to rise to the challenge.

She is like srv, she dances away and changes the subject or keeps coming back with regurgitated shit again.

I must admit I did laugh at his, once again, very lame threat of the Pentagon and Shanksville. When did we first hear that.....100 pages ago? lol

8/9/2015 5:08:23 PM Lufkin, TX  

class5
Over 2,000 Posts (2,518)
Queensland
Australia
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Quote from higgy51:
That is why we know she won't come back because she will fail to rise to the challenge.

She is like srv, she dances away and changes the subject or keeps coming back with regurgitated shit again.




I must admit I did laugh at his, once again, very lame threat of the Pentagon and Shanksville. When did we first hear that.....100 pages ago? lol


Yes, when I saw that a few minutes ago I nearly sprayed the screen in coffee.





[Edited 8/9/2015 5:08:40 PM ]

8/9/2015 5:11:22 PM Lufkin, TX  

srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,613)
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from higgy51:
You and I both know she won't come back with anything, she never does. She and you are alike, you just keep going round and round and avoid the awkward questions and requests for proof.

You had had proof with the time frame given to you. He wasn't in the wtc7 until after it was evacuated, that is why no-one was in the OEC.

The ONLY time frame we know of Jennings was that he was on his way to work when the 1st plane hit. We have no other time frames from him, so It is now up to you to produce your own timeline.

Why do you keep going around in circles about this? You know you cannot prove Jennings heard the explosions before the collapse and to be very honest with you, neither can we prove he didn't hear them. The only thing we have 'on our side' is the time frames already shown to you and you cannot and have not come up with anything to the contrary.

In case you forget, Hess admitted he heard no explosions.

Jennings was a muslim and therefore he was a paid plant by the terrorists to make it look as if the Government was to blame; that is so obvious.


Higgy you state:

"Jennings was a muslim and therefore he was a paid plant by the terrorists to make it look as if the Government was to blame; that is so obvious."

And your attacking Funwithmusic with that comment?

We do know for FACT that Barry Jennings was inside of WTC7 for awhile BEFORE WTC1 collapsed because in his eyewitness testimony, he stated "firefighters came to help rescue him but then they RAN AWAY then they came back but this time with more concern on their faces then they RAN AWAY again". Anyone with common sense would take each of them "ran aways" as when each tower was collapsing, would you not agree? If you don't agree then i would like to hear another explanation of why the firefighters "ran away"

8/9/2015 5:14:25 PM Lufkin, TX  

class5
Over 2,000 Posts (2,518)
Queensland
Australia
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Quote from srv63:

We do know for FACT that Barry Jennings was inside of WTC7 for awhile BEFORE WTC1 collapsed because in his eyewitness testimony, he stated "firefighters came to help rescue him but then they RAN AWAY then they came back but this time with more concern on their faces then they RAN AWAY again". Anyone with common sense would take each of them "ran aways" as when each tower was collapsing, would you not agree? If you don't agree then i would like to hear another explanation of why the firefighters "ran away"


My God! That is merely a weak assumption. Common sense has nothing to do with it and you should stop abusing the term.

How do you account for the fact that the building was evacuated at 9:45, and that is why there was no-one in the OEM when Jennings arrived? Why do you dance around this fact?





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