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srv63
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I have, and i've found no evidence what so ever 911 was an inside job. Do you have any? Obviously, No.
You now make that statement of "I have, and i've found no evidence what so ever 911 was an inside job.", whereas around page 60 of this thread you claimed that you don't buy everything in the governments accounts of 9/11 because some things didn't add up. You Mr., are now officially a liar and stamped as an official government paid wh*re. Gotcha
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9/12/2015 4:43:10 AM |
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srv63
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Why do you feel the need to feed people conclusions?
I really don't comprehend why a private citizen would spend so much time trying to make sure the government's story is perpetuated. Is it possible you don't want people to honestly question the narrative for themselves?
It took about a month in this forum for myself to come to this exact conclusion Na, to realise these stooges had to be government paid wh*res to try and stifle the truth. Anyone with the tiniest of a brain could not buy into the governments bullshit story of 9/11 100% but yet these clowns can? No way, these wh*res are definitely bought off
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9/12/2015 6:55:32 AM |
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srv63
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And a couple more questions 57channels which are meant specifically for YOU...
Just so that you paid molesters of the truth don't get the impression that us truthers are afraid in any way to answer your dumb assed questions, i'm gonna answer them for 57channels
If a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon what happened to it?
A guided missile hit the pentagon.NO PLANE!
Where is the aircraft now?
Maybe new ID numbers and paint job sold to 3rd world country or maybe ditched into the ocean. Who cares, not important
Where are all the passengers and crew?
Were there ever passengers or crew? If so, they are dead in the ocean as well
How did DNA from the passengers and crew get on the Pentagon?
Do you have any concrete proof of dna of the passengers or crew at the pentacon? Did you see even ONE BODY at the pentacon? Conclusion: no bodies = no DNA
Why did over a hundred eye witnesses see a passenger plane fly into the Pentagon - many of them describing details that match a 757 in the colors of American Airlines?
You are stretching the truth to the point of lying now.NOT ONE eyewitness saw a plane hit the pentacon. About 20 (so called) eyewitnesses watched, (and i quote)"for about a minute", a passenger plane heading straight for the pentagon.Almost all of them so-called eyewitnesses were driving as they "watched almost a minute as the plane was headed for the pentagon" but the problem is,how can you possibly watch a plane "for a minute" if that plane is about 200 feet off of the ground and traveling at atleast 450 miles per hour? IMPOSSIBLE. Them so called eyewitnesses are paid liars like you shills. Btw,we have a separate 20 eyewitnesses that tell a completely different story about two planes approaching the pentacon , one is military and the other flew over the pentacon.
How was that damage pattern that suits a 757 created in the building?
Have you ever heard of planted explosives? Wasn't that part of the pentacon the ONLY part under construction at the time?
How did they find so many 757 parts inside the Pentagon, including the Flight Data Recorder (FDR)?
You know for a fact these parts were found inside the pentacon? Awfully convenient that all of these so-called parts are found ONLY inside the pentacon but yet nothing outside.I find that VERY suspicious.We are to believe that a Boeing 757 passenger plane completely folded up and squeezed into a 12 foot diameter hole? Eyewitnesses inside gave testimony of NO FUEL smell inside the pentacon after the explosion.Was that plane ran on solar power?
Why do we have complete radar tracks for flight AA77 from take-off to crash?
If you have all of that then you can produce pictures of the crashed plane so lets see the photos.How many do you have?
How come those radar tracks match the FDR-derived flight path?
If that's true then why do we have eyewitnesses stating that NO commercial aircraft were in the area that morning except one white unidentified plane with no passenger windows ,and why is the flight path of that white plane totally in contradiction of norads supposed AA77 flight path?
That C30 pilot - what was he following upon ATC's request?
He was following the white plane as it flew over the pentacon, and as the guided missile was fired into the pentacon.
Why were Air Traffic Controllers thinking that a deviant airliner needed to be checked out by that C30 pilot?
Who knows, not important
What knocked down the light poles outside the Pentagon?
Damn sure not a plane.Light poles were a stage, therefore not important
Why are damage path inside and outside the Pentagon consistent with radar and FDR flight path?
Why is the supposed flight path of AA77 contradicted by many eyewitness testimony? Why were the light poles cut with oxygen/acetylene at the bases if a plane supposedly knocked them off of their supports? Why no jet fuel inside the pentacon? Why no plane wreckage outside on the lawn of the pentacon? Why not one body, not one luggage on the pentacon lawn?
Why are all three consistent with the bulk of eye witness statements?
Why are there just as many "no plane" eyewitnesses contradicting the government paid so-called eyewitnesses?
Why did American Airlines agree that they are in part responsible for deaths and injuries sustained inside the Pentagon?
I have no idea on that subject.Not important because it was IMPOSSIBLE for a Boeing 757 to COMPLETELY fit inside a 12 foot diameter hole .
Why did AA's insurers not object to AA accepting it was their plane?
Who cares.Not important since no plane caused that hole in the pentacon.
Now since i answered your bullshit questions the best that i could, i would like just one simple question answered. How did almost 200 feet of wings from a Boeing 757 fit thru a 12 foot diameter hole in the pentacon and how did the 40 foot tall tail section also slide into that 12 foot diameter hole without snapping off?
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9/12/2015 11:20:51 AM |
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57channels
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Scarface
could we possibly just send the money directly to your own private bank account because I think we all know any money sent is going directly to you.
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9/12/2015 11:31:01 AM |
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tragicparrot
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What is the harm in letting crazy people espouse crazy ideas? If there is no there there, why do you feel the need to refute them?
Oh, I don't know. Maybe because it pisses off ISIS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRMPm59L4tc
Why is it if you've concluded people should question what they've been told, you then conveniently find yourself unable to comprehend the reasons why they do? Is it possible you don't wan't anyone questioning truthers?
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9/12/2015 11:43:15 AM |
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srv63
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Oh, I don't know. Maybe because it pisses off ISIS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRMPm59L4tc
Why is it if you've concluded people should question what they've been told, you then conveniently find yourself unable to comprehend the reasons why they do? Is it possible you don't wan't anyone questioning truthers?
You shills have the same scumbags signing your checks as isis. Now are you ever going to get around to answering my question, or are you going to avoid it like the plague?
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9/12/2015 11:47:56 AM |
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tragicparrot
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You shills have the same scumbags signing your checks as isis. Now are you ever going to get around to answering my question, or are you going to avoid it like the plague?
Your question has already been answered srv. You just ignored it and would rather circle jerk by asking the same questions over and over again. Feel good yet?
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9/12/2015 11:48:14 AM |
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tragicparrot
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Scarface
could we possibly just send the money directly to your own private bank account because I think we all know any money sent is going directly to you.
57channels. What lame a** excuse can you offer up that explains how so many people, like Edna Cintron, who were in and around the impact zone, managed to survive despite their decision to jump instead of being burned to death?
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9/12/2015 11:52:30 AM |
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naprinciple
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Oh, I don't know. Maybe because it pisses off ISIS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRMPm59L4tc
Why is it if you've concluded people should question what they've been told, you then conveniently find yourself unable to comprehend the reasons why they do? Is it possible you don't wan't anyone questioning truthers?
ISIS is a NeoCon invention, armed funded and trained by the West.
ISIS is being used to resurrect the push for war in Syria, after most people refused to buy the Assad chemical weapons farce 2 years ago.
I want people questioning EVERYTHING!
Perhaps you should watch the video you linked I'll bet you didn't bother
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9/12/2015 11:59:12 AM |
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srv63
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ISIS is a NeoCon invention, armed funded and trained by the West.
ISIS is being used to resurrect the push for war in Syria, after most people refused to buy the Assad chemical weapons farce 2 years ago.
I want people questioning EVERYTHING!
Perhaps you should watch the video you linked I'll bet you didn't bother
Don't answer anymore of this shills questions Na. I just answered atleast 10 of his aimed at 57channels and this shill can't explain to us how AA77's magically folded up into that 12 foot mouse hole in the pentacon. I guess that shill has no convictions to his outrageous story
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9/12/2015 12:00:58 PM |
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naprinciple
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Don't answer anymore of this shills questions Na. I just answered atleast 10 of his aimed at 57channels and this shill can't explain to us how AA77's magically folded up into that 12 foot mouse hole in the pentacon. I guess that shill has no convictions to his outrageous story
Watch the video he posted to make his point. The video rips his point to shreds
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9/12/2015 12:04:41 PM |
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srv63
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57channels. What lame a** excuse can you offer up that explains how so many people, like Edna Cintron, who were in and around the impact zone, managed to survive despite their decision to jump instead of being burned to death?
Answer your own dumb assed question parrot. Supposedly the heat inside the building was so damn intense to be able to weaken steel columns that were 10 inch thick, but yet a woman waving for help at the point of impact doesn't even have singed hair? Explain that one to us o'l wise one. Were waiting
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57channels. What lame a** excuse can you offer up that explains how so many people, like Edna Cintron, who were in and around the impact zone, managed to survive despite their decision to jump instead of being burned to death?
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Want to rephrase that question??? Edna Cintron was out on a steel beam waving, and certainly I am sure thought she would be rescued since the fires were dying down, and firemen were going up since they were told everything was safe.........and then some traitor hit detonator buttons and pulverized both towers to mynute dust [ fine dust with explosive residue in it and asbestos dust tool since the towers were full of asbestos.
Some people did jump because they were so fkn hot or full of smoke and couldnt breathe. Others were lucky and survived the missile hit that blew out the wylie coyote image of some stupid plane, and escaped the pre-set explosions of the fire and smoke and got to the hole for fresh air waiting to be rescued...then kaboom...end of their lives
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9/12/2015 12:07:04 PM |
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srv63
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Watch the video he posted to make his point. The video rips his point to shreds
I will watch it since you suggested it worthy of watching
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9/12/2015 12:11:13 PM |
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tragicparrot
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Don't answer anymore of this shills questions Na. I just answered atleast 10 of his aimed at 57channels and this shill can't explain to us how AA77's magically folded up into that 12 foot mouse hole in the pentacon. I guess that shill has no convictions to his outrageous story
You've answered nothing. Just added the same old speculation on top of even more questions. Any reason why 57channels is unable to answer a simple question on his own? Or are you and na just here to babysit him?
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9/12/2015 12:12:04 PM |
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naprinciple
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I will watch it since you suggested it worthy of watching
I'm guessing Tragic didn't watch the video, or know the host is a 911 truther!
Edit:
Tragic, why didn't you watch the video you cited as your source?
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9/12/2015 12:12:38 PM |
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tragicparrot
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Watch the video he posted to make his point. The video rips his point to shreds
It's satire. Get it?
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9/12/2015 12:15:40 PM |
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naprinciple
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It's satire. Get it?
So you need to straighten out truthers because of satire?
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9/12/2015 12:20:17 PM |
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tragicparrot
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So you need to straighten out truthers because of satire?
Can you provide anything of substance here other than to question why anyone should question a truther?
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9/12/2015 12:20:24 PM |
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srv63
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Watch the video he posted to make his point. The video rips his point to shreds
That video confirms what i have suspected for a few months.ISIS is our shithole government.Thanks for sharing that video parrot
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9/12/2015 12:24:14 PM |
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naprinciple
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Can you provide anything of substance here other than to question why anyone should question a truther?
Sure. I like to ask people to think for themselves. Why don't you think that has value or substance
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9/12/2015 12:36:18 PM |
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longbobby
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Quote from srv63:
That video confirms what i have suspected for a few months.ISIS is our shithole government.Thanks for sharing that video parrot
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The arrest of jewish bombmaker Joshua Goldberg proves ISIS is Jews pretending to be "radical Islamist militants".
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9/12/2015 12:43:47 PM |
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naprinciple
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Who Is Really Behind ISIS
https://youtu.be/8LSIwvE0Nvo
Possible 'chatting' detected. You have already posted in this thread recently. Please wait for some other people to reply before posting in this thread again, or wait like an hour or so, whichever comes first. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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9/12/2015 12:59:38 PM |
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tragicparrot
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Sure. I like to ask people to think for themselves. Why don't you think that has value or substance
So you like to ask people to think for themselves? Great! And what make you think I don't feel that has value or substance? Although I do have to wonder sometimes if by continually copy pasting material from websites who's primary agenda is to spread complete and utter nonsense, some folks aren't actually thinking for themselves.
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9/12/2015 1:04:53 PM |
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naprinciple
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So you like to ask people to think for themselves? Great! And what make you think I don't feel that has value or substance? Although I do have to wonder sometimes if by continually copy pasting material from websites who's primary agenda is to spread complete and utter nonsense, some folks aren't actually thinking for themselves.
I posted a few things on here from James Corbett. The same source you used to support your assertion.
You claim it's all nonsense, but don't refute anything. Seems more like you're trying to poison the well, while ignoring the content
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9/12/2015 3:07:32 PM |
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tragicparrot
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I posted a few things on here from James Corbett. The same source you used to support your assertion.
You claim it's all nonsense, but don't refute anything. Seems more like you're trying to poison the well, while ignoring the content
What assertion? That maybe ISIS actually was pissed off at truthers? lol But lets see. There's Prison Planet, InfoWars, WhatReallyHappened, CorbettReport... "The truth in five minutes". Gotta admit these sites do contain some entertainment value, but that's about it. Evidence of a conspiracy? None.
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9/12/2015 3:30:23 PM |
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tragicparrot
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57channels. What lame a** excuse can you offer up that explains how so many people, like Edna Cintron, who were in and around the impact zone, managed to survive despite their decision to jump instead of being burned to death?
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Want to rephrase that question??? Edna Cintron was out on a steel beam waving, and certainly I am sure thought she would be rescued since the fires were dying down, and firemen were going up since they were told everything was safe.........and then some traitor hit detonator buttons and pulverized both towers to mynute dust [ fine dust with explosive residue in it and asbestos dust tool since the towers were full of asbestos.
Some people did jump because they were so fkn hot or full of smoke and couldnt breathe. Others were lucky and survived the missile hit that blew out the wylie coyote image of some stupid plane, and escaped the pre-set explosions of the fire and smoke and got to the hole for fresh air waiting to be rescued...then kaboom...end of their lives
Your original question 57channels...
cl-ASS......you still believe the hot fires melted the beams or buckled the beams and caused the so-called collapse?? If so........how the hell could that woman be out there waving?? She would have been burnt up or her clothes on fire or whatever???
Care to rephrase your answer? Because not only was Edna out there waving, but the towers did eventually collapse as a result of excessive heat exposure. There were no missiles. There were no pre-set explosives. We've already went over this throughout multitude posts.
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9/12/2015 4:07:52 PM |
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57channels
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tragic
One thing I know for absolute positive. You could announce an NFL football game, say the defense stiffened after you could see the halfback fumbled on purpose [ nobody touched him ] and keep a straight face.
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9/12/2015 4:15:35 PM |
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longbobby
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2015 911 terror attacks thwarted because one of the Jews (Joshua Goldberg) that was organizing them got busted by the FBI.
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9/12/2015 4:35:07 PM |
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srv63
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Care to rephrase your answer? Because not only was Edna out there waving, but the towers did eventually collapse as a result of excessive heat exposure. There were no missiles. There were no pre-set explosives. We've already went over this throughout multitude posts.
And the reason your absolutely sure that fires caused the collapse of all three towers is what parrot? The word of some dildos in government? And your brain can't think for itself? I'm not sure about missiles hitting WTC1 and 2 but i can damn sure tell you your in fantasy land if you want to feed us shit that no pre-set explosives were detonated. Btw, your trying to weasel out of answering the question parrot. Supposedly there is enough heat in the towers to weaken huge steel columns but yet there is a woman waving for help at the impact hole. Care to tell us how the hell that is possible?
If you have no clue and your common sense has no clue, then what the hell does your holy bible nist have to say about it?
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I have a friend, perhaps my best friend, who I have known for 34 years. He absolutely respects my intelligence in nearly every regard, except 911. Somehow he believes me to be rational, thoroughly researched, and honest in everything else, but I'm a gullible idiot when it comes to this topic
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Your friend is an idiot then. Why he would believe the 19 Arab fairytale tells me he has done zero research not only about 9-11, but about the Maine, JFK, Waco, Oklahoma City, USS Liberty, Vietnam boondoggle war, Warren Report, Vince Foster phony suicide, ect.ect.
You can sure tell your friend that 57 Channels think he is an idiot or close minded or most likely a " coward " who has to live in Peter Pan land of he will cry all night long and too scared to face " REALITY "
The kinds of things we speak of in these forums..scares the crap out of alot of people.
Yep;..all these years later..if I even begin to mention there was something fishy about WTC 9/11..they come unglued
They dont want you to wreck their FALSE BOWL OF CHERRIES world.
II THESS 2..speaks of people like this..THEY PREFER TO BELEIVE THE LIES..and because they are that way..they are blinded by the hand of God according to scripture...and will be doomed....
These are Isra-hell firsters...and God does not approve of that institution..so..he blinded those who support the Synagogue of Satan...
THATS WHAT YOUR FRIEND IS...IS PROBABLY IN ISRA-HELL FIRSTER..AND HE LOVES THE LIES..SO HE IS BLINDED....hes a coward too.
Sometimes when I speak to people about the REAL WORLD...I can see those black and white spirals in their eyes..and their programmed zombie like speak come out of their mouths.
Its like being in a Science Fiction movie...It makes me feel weird..Its getting to where I cant be around them anymore...they look so stupid, gullible and ignorant to me..
YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT..so I prefer not to be around people like that..I dont want to catch their disease...of stupidity..and gullibleness.
ITS A NEW DISEASE...9/11-itis..
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9/12/2015 7:02:45 PM |
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funwithmusic
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A noted member of the truth movement distances himself from the Thermite debate:
http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/has-nanothermite-been-oversold-to-911.html
"Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth are heavily promoting the theory that “explosive nanothermite” was used to bring down the Twin Towers on September 11th, 2001, and that microscopic chips of a fused compound containing unignited nanothermite were found in the World Trade Center dust. This discovery is now considered a “smoking gun” by most members of the 9/11 Truth community, even though a good many serious researchers and 9/11 activists remain unconvinced.
Let’s take a look at what is supposed to be the current best evidence in the controlled-demolition theory of the World Trade Center’s tallest buildings. Steven Jones, a physicist who joined the 9/11 Truth movement from Brigham Young University during 2005, introduced the theory that thermite/thermate played a role in the destruction of the towers; and in 2006, he refined this theory to propose that nanothermite or “superthermite” – a finely granulated form of thermite – was in fact the substance used, and its high reactivity served to pulverize the steel, concrete and many additional tons of skyscraper material, including the buildings’ contents.
In an effort to confirm the claims being made about thermite and nanothermite, T. Mark Hightower, a chemical engineer from both the space program and chemical industry, decided to investigate its use as an explosive. In addition to doing his own study, he has repeatedly written to leading 9/11 researchers who champion the use of nanothermite as the principal (if not exclusive) mechanism for bringing about the destruction of the Twin Towers, probing them on the explosive capabilities of nanothermite. The replies he has received suggest that this is an issue they are unwilling to examine fully and openly.
Hightower wrote directly to Richard Gage, the founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, citing a frequently-referenced March 2005 LLNL paper on thermite, which can be downloaded from the Reference 2 link at the bottom of
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/theories/thermitetech.html
This paper explains what nano-composites are, focusing on thermite mixtures and how they are produced. It also includes some experimental results.
As Hightower observed to Gage, however: “This paper offers no evidence to me that explosive velocities anywhere near that of TNT (22,600 feet per second) can be produced by the nanothermites as described and presented. On page 10, it states, ‘One limitation inherent in any thermite energetic material is the inability of the energetic material to do pressure/volume work on an object. Thermites release energy in the form of heat and light, but are unable to move objects.’"
What Hightower was asking Gage was: “How can a substance be an explosive and not be able to do pressure/volume work on an object – that is, move an object?” Gage responded: “The nanothermite was set in a bed of organic silica, which I believe the authors suggest may provide the explosive pressure/volume work. In addition, I believe that the authors are quite open to the possibility that other more high-energy explosives may have been used.”
Without further characterization, the “bed of organic silica” is not a sufficient explanation, so the possibility is raised that “other more high-energy explosives may have been used.” Surely thermite or nanothermite would become explosive if combined with bona fide explosives. Hightower decided to take an even closer look at the claims advanced on behalf of nanothermite, and has spent several months researching everything he could find in the open literature. Again and again, he found that thermite, even in its nano form, unless combined with high explosives or another high-explosive mechanism, cannot be a high explosive.
So if nanothermite is to be the “smoking gun” of 9/11, it would have had to have been combined with some form of high-power explosives or other high-explosive mechanism to do the job of bringing the buildings down. What was it combined with? By itself, nanothermite cannot have been the sole agent of demolition – it was only another “helper.” By itself, therefore, nanothermite cannot be “explosive evidence,” as AE911 Truth maintains.
There are reasons to believe that the 9/11 movement’s nanothermite experts are actually aware of this problem. For example, during a recent interview (“9/11: Explosive Testimony Exclusive” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lU-vu2JvZY), Niels Harrit explains that nanothermite is built from the atom scale up, which allows for the option of adding other chemicals to make it explosive. He states that the role played by the red-gray chips found in the dust is unknown. But he is convinced, based on observation of the towers’ destruction and the molten metal present, that both explosives and incendiaries were used. It’s just that he and his fellow researchers have not been able to prove that the nanothermitic material they found in the dust has the explosive properties he believes were necessary to accomplish the destruction.
Harrit suggests the use of “a modern military material which is unknown to the general public” as an explanation for the missing pieces to the 9/11 nanothermite puzzle. He urges a new investigation, whereby NIST will test WTC dust samples for remaining explosives and thermitic material. But he also seems to be saying that he and his fellow 9/11 researchers do not consider it worthwhile to pursue further analysis beyond their current findings."
TBC...
So if nanothermite is to be the “smoking gun” of 9/11, it would have had to have been combined with some form of high-power explosives or other high-explosive mechanism to do the job of bringing the buildings down.
MUSIC
THE REASON NANOTHERMITE IS IMPORTANT ...IS BECAUSE ITS ONLY CREATED IN US AND ISRA-HELLI MILITARY LABS...
With Isra-helli Jews such as RABBI DOV ZACKHEIM..looting American blind...its no wonder that the Thermite was from Isra-helli's who have usurped or gov..or from Isra-hell it self...NO MATTER...IT WAS DONE BY THE JEWS WHO HAVE TAKEN OVER OUR GOV...OUR MILITAARY
THERE IS A COUP IN PLAY..AND MANY ARE TO AFRAID TO SEE THE TRUTH....
THATS THE SMOKING GUN...GENIUS..
If Nanothermite was on site...then it had to come from the US AND OR ISRA-HELLI MILITARY..
WHO BENEFIT FROM WTC 9/11...ONLY ISRA-HELL DID...
THE US only gets to pay the bill..and bury a bunch of dead sons and daughters...and EARNED THE HATRED OF THE ARAB NATIONS...in this WARS FOR ISRA-HELL AND JEWISH BANKSTERS..
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9/12/2015 7:38:01 PM |
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57channels
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Fun
The kinds of things we speak of in these forums..scares the crap out of alot of people.
Yep;..all these years later..if I even begin to mention there was something fishy about WTC 9/11..they come unglued
They dont want you to wreck their FALSE BOWL OF CHERRIES world.
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How true, how very true. Bunch of fkn cowards who would rather go vote in fixed elections rather than admit the truth about the real world.
Voting : The absolutely most unpatriotic thing a person can do.....at least here in Merica.
Evil will always prevail when good men and women do : nothing
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9/12/2015 7:40:39 PM |
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srv63
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Come on parrot and get your a** in here and earn your shill check and stop trying to bully 57channels. You can bring in the other 2 1/2 stooges with ya to help you con your way thru answering my questions. Or are you scared that your explanations are too ridiculous for even a fool to believe? You claim to be 100% sure of yourself and your dumb assed nist report so you should have nothing to worry about up against this simple minded countryboy. I'm waiting
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9/12/2015 7:45:49 PM |
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funwithmusic
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Come on parrot and get your a** in here and earn your shill check and stop trying to bully 57channels. You can bring in the other 2 1/2 stooges with ya to help you con your way thru answering my questions. Or are you scared that your explanations are too ridiculous for even a fool to believe? You claim to be 100% sure of yourself and your dumb assed nist report so you should have nothing to worry about up against this simple minded countryboy. I'm waiting
Im utterly amazed that anyone still believes the NIST REPORT...what did it report? IT never touched the fact that the buildings were PROFESSIONALLY DEMOLITIONED...so..how can it be a viable report?
SEE..THIS IS WHY THE CRIMINALS IN OUR GOV...MAKE REPORTS LIKE THE NIST REPORT...
OPTION #1.....THEY KNOW THE MENTAL MIDGETS WILL BUY THE LIES..AND EVEN DEFEND THEM..all the while burning down their own house
OPTION #2...THEY ARE ISRA-HELLIS SAYANIM..here to spread their KOL NIDRE LIES
WE HAVE NO ALLIES
ONLY ISRA-HELLS ALL-LIES
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Fun
The kinds of things we speak of in these forums..scares the crap out of alot of people.
Yep;..all these years later..if I even begin to mention there was something fishy about WTC 9/11..they come unglued
They dont want you to wreck their FALSE BOWL OF CHERRIES world.
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How true, how very true. Bunch of fkn cowards who would rather go vote in fixed elections rather than admit the truth about the real world.
Voting : The absolutely most unpatriotic thing a person can do.....at least here in Merica.
Evil will always prevail when good men and women do : nothing
MUSIC:
IS IT MERICA...OR IS IT NOW....JEWMERICA....CAUSE IT CERTAINLY ISNT THE SAME NATION THE FOUNDERS HANDED OVER TO US...NOW IS IT...
THE CONSTITUTION..HAS BULLET HOLES ALL THROUGH IT TODAY...
THE JEWNINTED NATIONS..IS TAKEING OVER LANDS..DESTORYING OUR FREEDOMS WITH THE HELP OF OUR MANY JEWISH TREASONOUS PRESIDENTS ..SUCH AS ROOSEVELT....LYNDON BEN JOHNSON......EISENHOWER..TRUMAN..THE SOLOMON BUSHES....CLINTONS.....THE BLACK JEW..OBAMA.AND THEIR AMERICAN USEFUL IDIOTS..
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srv63
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Fun
The kinds of things we speak of in these forums..scares the crap out of alot of people.
Yep;..all these years later..if I even begin to mention there was something fishy about WTC 9/11..they come unglued
They dont want you to wreck their FALSE BOWL OF CHERRIES world.
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How true, how very true. Bunch of fkn cowards who would rather go vote in fixed elections rather than admit the truth about the real world.
Voting : The absolutely most unpatriotic thing a person can do.....at least here in Merica.
Evil will always prevail when good men and women do : nothing
It's too bad but the truth is americas vast majority are cowards and will do nothing whatsoever to "rock the boat" until the evil is actually on their doorstep escorting them and their families to the firing squads and mass graves. WW2 all over again.Some of us are ready
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9/12/2015 8:04:00 PM |
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@ Fun,
I never have read the nist report after hearing about parts of it from shills. It is a report not worth my time and it's an insult to my intelligence.It's pretty damn bad when a 10th grade education countryboy has much more sense than the fancy pants,over educated dim-wit shills in this forum with not a lick of sense.
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9/12/2015 8:21:08 PM |
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57channels
Bettendorf, IA
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Fun
MUSIC:
IS IT MERICA...OR IS IT NOW....JEWMERICA....CAUSE IT CERTAINLY ISNT THE SAME NATION THE FOUNDERS HANDED OVER TO US...NOW IS IT...
THE CONSTITUTION..HAS BULLET HOLES ALL THROUGH IT TODAY...
THE JEWNINTED NATIONS..IS TAKEING OVER LANDS..DESTORYING OUR FREEDOMS WITH THE HELP OF OUR MANY JEWISH TREASONOUS PRESIDENTS ..SUCH AS ROOSEVELT....LYNDON BEN JOHNSON......EISENHOWER..TRUMAN..THE SOLOMON BUSHES....CLINTONS.....THE BLACK JEW..OBAMA.AND THEIR AMERICAN USEFUL IDIOTS..
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It has been sooo rewarding to actually wake up and grasp the fact of how evil the Jews really are...thanks to you and Long and Brother Nathaniel and Paul Craig Roberts and David Duke and others. You have done your research and Im pretty much convinced how evil these Jews really are and how powerful they are.
After all..........Merica is the only worlds superpower I guess and the Jews control America. The Kol Nidre prayer or celebration clears them of any wrong doing I guess huh.
So Larry Silverstein goes to Kol Nidre and is forgiven for making sure the towers got wired and the people died. Amazing!!!!
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9/12/2015 8:53:19 PM |
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tragicparrot
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Come on parrot and get your a** in here and earn your shill check and stop trying to bully 57channels. You can bring in the other 2 1/2 stooges with ya to help you con your way thru answering my questions. Or are you scared that your explanations are too ridiculous for even a fool to believe? You claim to be 100% sure of yourself and your dumb assed nist report so you should have nothing to worry about up against this simple minded countryboy. I'm waiting
Whats extremely unappealing here is that not a one of you's have ever offered evidence lending support to the reasons of why it is you repeatedly ask the same old questions. Your evidence of a missile? A missile, wouldn't it figure, plastered with photo shopped emblems of United Airlines. Your evidence of explosives? A concocted report created by none other than truther's who's interest couldn't be farther than the actual truth. Add a shitload of conjecture, and there you have it. Reason enough to not only avoid what evidence there actually is, but also reason enough to utilize a one sided approach whereas only you get to ask the questions here, not answer them. So, perhaps there is evidence, though you've yet show any here. But then, even if there was, who cares right? Widespread opinion =/= truth value. That is an appeal to popularity fallacy. Something truthers seem to have down to a perfection.
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9/12/2015 9:04:28 PM |
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longbobby
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9/11: Jet Fuel burns at 1500F, Steel melts at 2750F: But what temperature does paper burn at?
The argument about whether fire could have caused the buildings to collapse involves us in too much controversy.
We can argue over that because few of us are truly qualified to make the assessment.
Here is all you need to know to KNOW, nearly for certain, that something is incredibly fishy about 9/11.
The passport of one of the supposed hijackers was found in the rubble!
So I guess fire can melt or "weaken" steel, but passports will just float on down to the ground.
You have heard of the magic bullet theory. This is the magic passport theory.
Forget arguing over fire and steel.
How the hell did the passport get there. Really.
Now, there will ALWAYS be people who try to debunk this stuff, they will try to confuse you, but really think about it.
The heat caused the buildings to collapse (supposedly) but somehow paper and plastic was not subject to the same laws of physics.
One thing everyone can agree on; it was REALLY HOT up there.
It's impossible for the passport to have survived. It was planted.
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9/12/2015 9:09:19 PM |
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naprinciple
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Quote from tragicparrot:
Whats extremely unappealing here is that not a one of you's have ever offered evidence lending support to the reasons of why it is you repeatedly ask the same old questions. Your evidence of a missile? A missile, wouldn't it figure, plastered with photo shopped emblems of United Airlines. Your evidence of explosives? A concocted report created by none other than truther's who's interest couldn't be farther than the actual truth. Add a shitload of conjecture, and there you have it. Reason enough to not only avoid what evidence there actually is, but also reason enough to utilize a one sided approach whereas only you get to ask the questions here, not answer them. So, perhaps there is evidence, though you've yet show any here. But then, even if there was, who cares right? Widespread opinion =/= truth value. That is an appeal to popularity fallacy. Something truthers seem to have down to a perfection.
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Why don't you question why the Pentagon's cameras didn't get High Def shots from every conceivable angle?
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9/12/2015 9:19:34 PM |
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tragicparrot
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Quote from tragicparrot:
Whats extremely unappealing here is that not a one of you's have ever offered evidence lending support to the reasons of why it is you repeatedly ask the same old questions. Your evidence of a missile? A missile, wouldn't it figure, plastered with photo shopped emblems of United Airlines. Your evidence of explosives? A concocted report created by none other than truther's who's interest couldn't be farther than the actual truth. Add a shitload of conjecture, and there you have it. Reason enough to not only avoid what evidence there actually is, but also reason enough to utilize a one sided approach whereas only you get to ask the questions here, not answer them. So, perhaps there is evidence, though you've yet show any here. But then, even if there was, who cares right? Widespread opinion =/= truth value. That is an appeal to popularity fallacy. Something truthers seem to have down to a perfection.
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Why don't you question why the Pentagon's cameras didn't get High Def shots from every conceivable angle?
Oh boy, two questions in one. So what is it makes you think i've never questioned this? And are you the least bit familiar with film speed?
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9/12/2015 9:34:38 PM |
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naprinciple
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I don't know anything about film speeds.
Why were planes readily caught on cameras in NYC, but not so in DC?
Many times the clues are found it what isn't there
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9/13/2015 12:23:20 AM |
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class5
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Is he talking about you Class5?
No. That was pretty low. Please try to focus on the topic.
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9/13/2015 12:23:40 AM |
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higgy51
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I don't know anything about film speeds.
Why were planes readily caught on cameras in NYC, but not so in DC?
Many times the clues are found it what isn't there
Maybe because there were more people with camera's in NYC, like the Naudets, the Chopper 4 camera.
Only TWO instances of both planes hitting both of the Towers are known to exist.
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9/13/2015 12:29:07 AM |
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higgy51
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I already proved that column wasn't cut by the cleanup crews you dumb shit. Go back and re-read
Read the question nagain Mr Angry, I said can you prove they weren't and CUT BY SOMEONE ELSE.
Uou answered the first part, but onece again, skipped the latter part.
PROVE that they were cut by the "explosive" people or those government workers that cut them BEFORE the "explosions" to make sure that they collapsed...as in an inside job.
You can't can you Mr Angry?
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9/13/2015 12:35:51 AM |
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longbobby
Lufkin, TX
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Israeli Art Students Inside WTC ~ The B-Thing
US arrests 200 young Israelis in spying investigation
What kind of ART project could these Israeli's be up to?
As hard as this might be to believe a group of foreign
art students NOT U.S. Citizens managed to get temporary construction ID for the entire WTC complex.
While there,they removed a window and extended a wooden balcony while their "sponsor" was in the Millenium Hotel taking photos, he also hired a helicopter to document the event.
Thousands of electronic fuse holders used to blow up buildings shown in these pictures from the World Trade Center! These “art students” have been tied to Mossad explosive experts and took over and lived on the 91st floor! They were given construction passes to have full access to the building! This is smoking gun proof right here because there was not ANY rewiring being done on the building nor were these “art students” cleared to do electrical rewiring in the building!
Notice the BB-18 number for those fuse holders?
Once a copy of this pass is in hand, one can be
reproduced, a simple project for an artist.
http://www.methodicaldeception.com/resource2.html
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9/13/2015 12:48:18 AM |
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class5
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All your dumb papers shows is that thermite is not highly explosive.
It is unable to produce the force to create kinetic energy. It is not an explosive.
I don't think anyone here claimed that thermite alone was used to demolish the towers.
Years ago, in the absence of any noise concomitant with explosives employed in a controlled demolition (note that bit), the pseudo scientists you cite came up with the nano-thermite conclusion in order to explain away the absence of noise.
Even stating that a combination was used still produces many flaws in logic.
a). Explain the lack of 'rolling' explosions that are a feature of every CD (verinage not include as it uses hydraulics).
b). The lack of barotrauma on the recovered bodies.
c). The lack of physical evidence (explosives ALWAYS leave physical evidence, i.e. Det cord; RF screening etc.).
d). The lack of the Munroe effect on the steel for ALL buildings.
Again, you post worthless crap. The problem is, thermite/thermate WAS used to melt thru the main support columns AND explosives WERE USED to weaken the floor/wall supports, PROVEN TO BE HEARD by many eyewitnesses as well as CLEARLY HEARD in a few of the videos.
The witnesses heard 'explosions', not 'explosives' and it is intellectually dishonest to conflate the two. There is no evidence for the deployment of explosives in the collapse of any of the buildings, be it visual, audio or physical.
Instead of trying to discount the CLEARLY HEARD explosions, you need to address what really caused them.
No, I'm, not convinced any explosions were heard that were concomitant with those evinced on demolition sites.
Explain away the big boulders found in the rubble that consisted of steel and concrete melted together.
This is all you guys do isn't it? Throw dumb questions at me repeatedly expecting me to wipe your asses all day. Christ you lot are lazy and I don't even have the burden of proof.
Anyway, the 'meteorites' are sedimentary conglomerates caused by the a mixture of the gypsum from the vast amount of powdered drywall; the pressure of the pile; the heat of the pile-all fed by the water used to extinguish the fires. The 'metamorphic' theory posited by 9/11 truth (meaning they were formed under intense heat caused by a thermitic reaction) has no foundation, as the meteorites also contain considerable amounts of paper.
Explain away the melting together of two i-beams that came from two totally different areas that formed a "cross" with a piece of molten steel draped across one of its arms. You better have a hell of allot better explanation than "office fires did it".
This one?:
"The World Trade Center was built using prefabricated parts which were bolted or welded together at the site.[1] This process dramatically reduced construction time and costs. Using this process, t-beams and other types of cross beams were created and used in each of the World Trade Center buildings.[2] When the Twin Towers collapsed, it sent debris down on to 6 World Trade Center, and gutted the interior of World Trade Center 6. In the midst of the WTC6 debris was this intact cross beam, which its discoverer believes came from the North Tower."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_cross
Wow...shocking....
I think you must be referring to this sculpture:
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9/13/2015 12:55:09 AM |
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longbobby
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class5
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Say.......you mentioned something about Edna Cintron standing on one of those beams waving, waiting to get rescued. Now what was cl-ASS'es response to that??
cl-ASS......you still believe the hot fires melted the beams or buckled the beams and caused the so-called collapse?? If so........how the hell could that woman be out there waving?? She would have been burnt up or her clothes on fire or whatever???
Lets hear your lame a** excuse from some debunking 9-11 website???
That one is simple there 57. If you see the pic I posted and note the video I posted for SRV, you would know that the fire had moved from the impact point upward. Fires consume fuel and as the fuel burns out, the fire 'moves' to a new source.
Note the explosions in the lobby just after the impacts. These explosions also travelled upward through the core and blew out some of the roof below the hat truss. Therefore, the whole upper tower became a huge forge as 25mph winds entered the impact site and fanned the flames as the air travelled up through the core. The fire moved rapidly.
I dare say it was highly uncomfortable for the poor woman, but she was in extremis to say the least.
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9/13/2015 1:12:18 AM |
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class5
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<<snipped the irrelevant material>>
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9/13/2015 1:25:22 AM |
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class5
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Don't answer anymore of this shills questions Na. I just answered atleast 10 of his aimed at 57channels and this shill can't explain to us how AA77's magically folded up into that 12 foot mouse hole in the pentacon. I guess that shill has no convictions to his outrageous story
Do you seriously believe that the entry point of the aircraft was 12 foot wide?
I think you're confused with the exit hole:
Deja vu....
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9/13/2015 1:34:22 AM |
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class5
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Years ago, in the absence of any noise concomitant with explosives employed in a controlled demolition (note that bit), the pseudo scientists you cite came up with the nano-thermite conclusion in order to explain away the absence of noise.
Even stating that a combination was used still produces many flaws in logic.
a). Explain the lack of 'rolling' explosions that are a feature of every CD (verinage not include as it uses hydraulics).
b). The lack of barotrauma on the recovered bodies.
c). The lack of physical evidence (explosives ALWAYS leave physical evidence, i.e. Det cord; RF screening etc.).
d). The lack of the Munroe effect on the steel for ALL buildings.
I should have noted the largest hole in the logic behind the CD hypothesis:
e). What type of explosive/therm*te combination is able to withstand the temperature of the fires in all three large towers?
I cannot overstate the importance of this point. Some have argued for radio controlled detonation of plastic explosives impervious to temperatures recorded (hypothetical?), however, this leads us back to points 'a' through to 'd'.
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9/13/2015 1:51:28 AM |
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class5
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Ok, I have more on the cross. This appears to be the example SRV is discussing:
I'm afraid that is still not 'melted' together. The 'drapery' (no wonder it resonated with Catholics!) looks merely crushed, or 'wrapped' by kinetic energy as opposed to thermal.
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9/13/2015 2:20:25 AM |
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class5
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This is a good assessment of the limitations of CCV devices around the Pentagon (this has been posted numerous times without comment):
http://11-settembre.blogspot.com.au/2007/02/why-dont-pentagon-videos-clearly-show.html
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9/13/2015 2:54:00 AM |
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class5
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Class 5, Higgy, Parrot you should be given a medal for striving with these lunatics.
I mean they are on the freakin grass!
But hey on the anny of 9/11 it is especially good to keep it real.
Kudos...
Thank you.
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9/13/2015 3:02:16 AM |
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class5
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Read the question nagain Mr Angry, I said can you prove they weren't and CUT BY SOMEONE ELSE.
Uou answered the first part, but onece again, skipped the latter part.
PROVE that they were cut by the "explosive" people or those government workers that cut them BEFORE the "explosions" to make sure that they collapsed...as in an inside job.
You can't can you Mr Angry?
I don't think he understands the risk behind his hypothesis. If large core beams were cut prior to the collapse we must assume that this duty was performed in front of witnesses, as large buildings like the WTC complex are never really 'empty'. No such witnesses have come forth. In addition, the risk of the plan being exposed would be too great as the building would have the potential to fail at any time after this weakening phase.
He simply cannot demonstrate that the cut in question was NOT made by the clean up crews as was reported.
There is one big hole in the logic here too. The destruction of 7WTC by CD would have required the certainty of the building being struck by flaming debris from the collapse of 1WTC.
One could not ensure such a result.
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9/13/2015 3:26:07 AM |
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class5
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The following gif shows how the interior of 7WTC collapsed before the exterior shell:
This is confirmed by the failure of the Eastern penthouse we see in the now common video:
https://youtu.be/Mamvq7LWqRU
Further proof the interior fell before the exterior. Here we can see the curtain 'laying over' the rubble pile:
Understanding the collapse sequence is fundamental to deciphering the fraudulent claims of 9/11 truth.
An alternate view of the collapse sequence of 7WTC:
https://youtu.be/AsJQKpnkZ10
This view confirms the accuracy of the NIST model (gif above).
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9/13/2015 3:59:13 AM |
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class5
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I'm sorry SRV, but it seems no video, or recording of the WTC attacks has any audio track that resembles the explosions we hear throughout the following video:
https://youtu.be/vMpJQgbKsms
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