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I CORINTHIANS 2:15 But he that is spiritual, examines ALL THINGS!




There once was a Master and a Student. They were walking along and the student asked the Master..."WHAT IS TRUTH?"

The Master thought about the students question for a bit.

While walking along the Master saw a pool of water and as they passed the Master grabbed the student by the back of his neck and pushed his face down into the pool of water.

The student struggled to come up for air. Finally the Master let the student come up for air.

The student gasped and took in a great breath of air and he looked at the master confused and asked him "WHY DID YOU DO THAT?”

The Master said this to his student "WHEN YOU WANT TO KNOW TRUTH AS MUCH AS YOU WANTED THAT BREATH OF AIR…..YOU WILL FIND IT”




Many are seeking the truth about WTC 9/11 ALL AROUND THE WORLD TODAY


IM SURE THAT IS FREAKING OUT THE VERY GUILTY ISRA-HELLIS

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As Funwithoutbrains has flooded the Thread with her insane rants and raves about Jews and rubbish, I would so hate for you to miss this post that you haven't answered as yet.

I do admire your research skills, going back to a proven "distorter of the truth" claiming that is your evidence whilst all the time ignoring the very fact that Hess was being interviews LIVE is unreal but in your case, fully believable.


Quote from higgy51:
Mmmm, rescued at 1pm?

So going back over old shit is your research? Even a website full of conspiracy nutcases (surprised you have't joined) sat he was on LIVE TV long before the NIST said he was rescued.

YOU however, seem to say he was rescued WAY AFTER the NIST time frame, sooooo, that would put them both in the WTC7 at the time the Tower collapsed.

Please do try to explain how Hess was interviewed a FULL hour before you say that they were rescued.

Don't forget SRV, Jennings said they were trapped THEY...for several hours.


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Quote from progrocknic:
You fail to understand aerodynamics. It's really not that hard to understand. The point at which a 767 is in danger of structural failure, the Vne, is mach .86. That's the max at any altitude. A 767 should never exceed mach .86 at 35,000 feet, it should never exceed ach .86 at 20,000 feet, it should never exceed mach .86 at 10,000, and it should never exceed mach .86 at sea level. The engines are more than capable of overspeed at any altitude, more so closer to sea level as the engines are more powerful where the air is denser. But it is structurally sound up to mach =86. Mach speed are different at different altitudes. If any of this is too hard to understand, read a book on aerodynamics. That's all I can tell you.




Last chance sir. If you respond with anything other than a 1 word answer, yes or no, you're on perma-block.



Can 767-200 go faster at sea level, than at 35,000 feet. Yes or no!



"One ping only, Visili!"

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higgy

As Funwithoutbrains has flooded the Thread with her insane rants and raves about Jews and rubbish, I would so hate for you to miss this post that you haven't answered as yet.
======================================================
You [ higgy ] have not earned the right to tie her shoelaces...and you can quote me on that.

There is overwhelming evidence the US Govt. murdered JFK or had the mafia murder him.

Now multiply that X50 and that's how much evidence there is that the US Govt./Mossad DID 9-11....and that's beside the fact much of the forensic evidence was destroyed..too.

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Quote from naprinciple:
Last chance sir. If you respond with anything other than a 1 word answer, yes or no, you're on perma-block.



Can 767-200 go faster at sea level, than at 35,000 feet. Yes or no!




No-one really knows because no tests to actually find out the maximum speeds at sea level (around 700 feet) have been taken out; unless you know different of course.

All there are as a guideline is the VNE and VMO recommendations.

Unless you know different of course.

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Quote from longbobby:
Quote from tragicparrot:
Who needs to report Israel has 400 nukes if your so enlightened upon this? Like I said. You are in a complete state of paranoid schizophrenia.
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Scientists discover gene that predisposes Ashkenazi Jews to schizophrenia

Variations of the DNST3 gene make Ashkenazi Jews 40 percent more likely to develop schizophrenia and similar diseases.


read more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/.premium-1.560128
http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/.premium-1.560128

Schizophrenia is characterized by a person living in a world where reality has little bearing on anything, and therefore what more would someone expect from a group of people who for thousands of years have embraced notions of their superiority and belief in a ‘God’ that commands them to invade, steal, and murder?


Please do explain to us why you are so taken with the mentally insane?


Maybe you're projecting it is the goyim you despise who are insane rather than admitting it is the Ashkenazi jews who carry the gene that makes them live in a in a complete state of paranoid schizophrenia?


Back on topic...

Shills like Comrade parrot are trying to distract the public from the revelation that thermite was found in the debris from the World Trade Towers back in 2009 by flooding blogs and websites with disinformation.

Stay on focus. NIST did not even test for thermite in the remains of the World Trade Towers. Now that thermite has been documented in the debris, NIST is at best proven incompetent, at worst party to a massive cover-up.

Don't get side tracked with minutia. The US Government lied. The govt of the State of Israel lied. The jewish owned media lied. The ZioShills lied.

That's all you need to know, America.

Now decide what to do about it.


Your proof of thermite having been discovered via > (Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe) has long been proven to be hogwash.

""Niels Harrit and Steven Jones, along with several coauthors, published the “peer-reviewed” paper “Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe” in the Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal (Harrit 2009). This article does not make the case for thermite use on 9/11. The paper examined “distinctive red/gray chips” found in WTC dust (unfortunately, with no chain of custody for the dust), and these were claimed to be thermitic because of their composition (iron oxides and pure aluminum) and other chemical properties. However, the presence of rust and aluminum does not prove the use of thermite, because iron oxide and aluminum are found in many common items that existed in the towers. Furthermore, the authors admit that their “differential scanning calorimeter” measurements of the supposed thermitic material showed results at about 450 degrees C below the temperature at which normal thermite reacts (Fana 2006). Finally, the scan of the red side of the “thermitic material” of Harrit/Jones is a dead-on match to material Jones himself identified as “WTC Steel Primer Paint” in his Hard Evidence Down Under Tour in November of 2009 (“Sunstealer” 2011).""

More on this can be found here...

http://www.csicop.org/si/show/the_9_11_truth_movement_the_top_conspiracy_theory_a_decade_later

An exploratory on the "molten metal" found at ground zero...

http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm

Rethinking thermite...

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

And about that "gene" that predisposes Ashkenazi Jews to schizophrenia?

The fact that mainly Ashkenazi Jews were studied does not rule out the chances that other populations may carry the same or similar genes capable of predisposing them to not only schizophrenia, but other diseases (such as cancer) as well. Furthermore, what the article fails to mention (or you so gleefully misrepresent), is that this particular gene is only a marker for the risk of mental illness in Ashkenazi Jews and not proof that 40% of them are actually afflicted with schizophrenia or any other mental illness.

Your only intent for posting this was to leave the impression that because this gene was found among Ashkenazi Jews that they are somehow inferior to everyone else. The opposite of which (and if you weren't such an ignoramous), is that someday this type of genetic research could very well benefit everyone in that by identifying the genes that predispose humans to various diseases, we can hopefully take measures to avoid any complications before they actually occur.

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Quote from tragicparrot:
Your proof of thermite having been discovered via > (Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe) has long been proven to be hogwash.

http://www.csicop.org/si/show/the_9_11_truth_movement_the_top_conspiracy_theory_a_decade_later

An exploratory on the "molten metal" found at ground zero...

http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm

Rethinking thermite...

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

And about that "gene" that predisposes Ashkenazi Jews to schizophrenia?

The fact that mainly Ashkenazi Jews were studied does not rule out the chances that other populations may carry the same or similar genes capable of predisposing them to not only schizophrenia, but other diseases (such as cancer) as well. Furthermore, what the article fails to mention (or you so gleefully misrepresent), is that this particular gene is only a marker for the risk of mental illness in Ashkenazi Jews and not proof that 40% of them are actually afflicted with schizophrenia or any other mental illness.

Your only intent for posting this was to leave the impression that because this gene was found among Ashkenazi Jews that they are somehow inferior to everyone else. The opposite of which (and if you weren't such an ignoramous), is that someday this type of genetic research could very well benefit everyone in that by identifying the genes that predispose humans to various diseases, we can hopefully take measures to avoid any complications before they actually occur.
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The parts you left out Comrade parrot, are the so called links you posted have themselves been debunked.

If you feel inferior because of what I posted; then that is YOUR problem, Comrade. Your hysterical neurosis is your own problem. As is the cause of the recessive genes (Endogamic marriages / inbreeding) that cause Ashkenazi Jews to be an inferior subset of the Caucasian race.

You and your ilk are amazing. Just like little spoiled children. You guys lie like rugs and try to be as obnoxious as is inhumanly possible.

THEN you try and elicit sympathy??? To get people to feel SORRY for you?

Are you freakin kidding???

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http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

Since it has been well established the temperature from the kerosene fires didn't even come come to stressing the steel, what else would cause a collapse from superheated steel ?

Oh I know ! THERMITE !

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longbobby
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Study: 'highly engineered explosive' found in WTC rubble

Stephen C. Webster Published: Saturday April 4, 2009


A team of scientists claim to have unearthed startling data from dust and debris gathered in the days and weeks after the World Trade Center towers collapsed on Sept. 11, 2001.

In a study published by the Open Chemical Physics Journal -- a peer-reviewed, scientific publication -- Steven E. Jones and Niels Harrit level a stark allegation: that within the dust and rubble of the World Trade Center towers lays evidence of "a highly engineered explosive," contrary to all federal studies of the collapses.

"We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center," reads the paper's abstract. "One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC)."

They claim their analysis has uncovered "active thermitic material": a combination of elemental aluminum and iron oxide in form of thermite known as "nanostructured super-thermite."

Thermite, used in steel welding, fireworks shows, hand grenades and demolition, can produce a chemical reaction known for extremely high temperatures focused in a very small area for a short period of time.

According to the Navy's Small Business Innovation Research, super-thermite "is restricted under the International Traffic in Arms Regulation (ITAR), which controls the export and import of defense-related material and services."

"This finding really goes beyond anything that has previously been shown," said Jones in a media advisory. "We had to use sophisticated tools to analyze the dust because this isn't just a typical explosive, RDX or CD4 or something -- this is a highly engineered material not readily available to just anyone."

"The cost and production rate of super-thermite composites has limited the use of these materials in DoD applications," claims the Navy's SBIR.

Dr. Steven E. Jones, a former physicist at Brigham Young University and a founding member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth & Justice, presented a paper in 2005 discussing alternatives to the government's theory that massive structural damage combined with burning jet fuel to weaken the towers' support infrastructure, causing a rapid "pancake" collapse.

In September 2006, under heavy criticism in the media and by several colleagues, the university placed Jones on paid administrative leave and his paper was removed from the BYU database.

The National Institute of Standards and Technology, which investigated the WTC tower collapses, maintains there was no recovered evidence of explosive materials. An electronic FAQ to the government's theory is available online.

"We get a lot of calls from people who have heard these theories," NIST spokesman Michael Newman told Newsday. "But we conducted what was probably the most complex investigation of a building collapse in history."

"We based our conclusion on the talents of the world's best engineers and scientists, state of the art computer models and 236 pieces of steel recovered from the site," reads the NIST FAQ.

"The collapse of the WTC towers was not caused either by a conventional building fire or even solely by the concurrent multi-floor fires that day," NIST says. "Instead, NIST concluded that the WTC towers collapsed because: (1) the impact of the planes severed and damaged support columns, dislodged fireproofing insulation coating the steel floor trusses and steel columns, and widely dispersed jet fuel over multiple floors; and (2) the subsequent unusually large, jet-fuel ignited multi-floor fires weakened the now susceptible structural steel."

"No building in the United States has ever been subjected to the massive structural damage and concurrent multi-floor fires that the towers experienced on Sept. 11, 2001," the agency claims.

This latest report, Jones told Visibility 9/11, "explodes the official story that 'no evidence' exists for explosive/pyrotechnic materials in the WTC buildings. The red/gray chips are the 'loaded gun' of 9-11."

Stephen C. Webster Published: Saturday April 4, 2009

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Scientists_find_active_superthermite_in_WTC_0404.html

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tragicparrot
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Quote from longbobby:
Quote from tragicparrot:
Your proof of thermite having been discovered via > (Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe) has long been proven to be hogwash.

http://www.csicop.org/si/show/the_9_11_truth_movement_the_top_conspiracy_theory_a_decade_later

An exploratory on the "molten metal" found at ground zero...

http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm

Rethinking thermite...

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

And about that "gene" that predisposes Ashkenazi Jews to schizophrenia?

The fact that mainly Ashkenazi Jews were studied does not rule out the chances that other populations may carry the same or similar genes capable of predisposing them to not only schizophrenia, but other diseases (such as cancer) as well. Furthermore, what the article fails to mention (or you so gleefully misrepresent), is that this particular gene is only a marker for the risk of mental illness in Ashkenazi Jews and not proof that 40% of them are actually afflicted with schizophrenia or any other mental illness.

Your only intent for posting this was to leave the impression that because this gene was found among Ashkenazi Jews that they are somehow inferior to everyone else. The opposite of which (and if you weren't such an ignoramous), is that someday this type of genetic research could very well benefit everyone in that by identifying the genes that predispose humans to various diseases, we can hopefully take measures to avoid any complications before they actually occur.
---------------------------------------------------

The parts you left out Comrade parrot, are the so called links you posted have themselves been debunked.

If you feel inferior because of what I posted; then that is YOUR problem, Comrade. Your hysterical neurosis is your own problem. As is the cause of the recessive genes (Endogamic marriages / inbreeding) that cause Ashkenazi Jews to be an inferior subset of the Caucasian race.

You and your ilk are amazing. Just like little spoiled children. You guys lie like rugs and try to be as obnoxious as is inhumanly possible.

THEN you try and elicit sympathy??? To get people to feel SORRY for you?

Are you freakin kidding???


Uh, where is it i'm asking for sympathy? Or is it your really getting so upset with my comments that you'll post just about anything. Any chance you can show me the parts I left out?

BTW, your link below goes nowhere. But mine do!

Quote from longbobby:
://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

Since it has been well established the temperature from the kerosene fires didn't even come come to stressing the steel, what else would cause a collapse from superheated steel ? ... Oh I know ! THERMITE !


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longbobby
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This latest report, Jones told Visibility 9/11, "explodes the official story that 'no evidence' exists for explosive/pyrotechnic materials in the WTC buildings. The red/gray chips are the 'loaded gun' of 9-11."

Joe Byrne contributed to this report.

Editor's note: This story has been updated and rewritten for balance and clarity.

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tragicparrot
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Quote from longbobby:
This latest report, Jones told Visibility 9/11, "explodes the official story that 'no evidence' exists for explosive/pyrotechnic materials in the WTC buildings. The red/gray chips are the 'loaded gun' of 9-11."

Joe Byrne contributed to this report.

Editor's note: This story has been updated and rewritten for balance and clarity.


Oh, well, its no wonder it passed Kevin Ryan's peer review. Look how well he performed in this short Youtube video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pJ6cS3GZBw#t=132

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57channels
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Long

The red/gray chips are the 'loaded gun' of 9-11."
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There are many loaded guns.........after one figures out all the loaded guns and you reach down the rabbit hole : Fake planes, fake hijackers, fake videos, fake eye witness testimony, fake passenger lists, fake NTSB data, fake news reports [ #7 collapsing while in the background ]

The gold stole from the vaults under the WTC was real though...the troops and people in Iraq and Afghanistan dying are real though. The first repsonders after the feds nuked the towerss are real dying of lung disease, and on and on.

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Quote from naprinciple:
Last chance sir. If you respond with anything other than a 1 word answer, yes or no, you're on perma-block.



Can 767-200 go faster at sea level, than at 35,000 feet. Yes or no!



"One ping only, Visili!"


No. Mach .86 is the max speed at any altitude.

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Quote from 57channels:
Long

The red/gray chips are the 'loaded gun' of 9-11."
=======================================================
There are many loaded guns.........after one figures out all the loaded guns and you reach down the rabbit hole : Fake planes, fake hijackers, fake videos, fake eye witness testimony, fake passenger lists, fake NTSB data, fake news reports [ #7 collapsing while in the background ]

The gold stole from the vaults under the WTC was real though...the troops and people in Iraq and Afghanistan dying are real though. The first repsonders after the feds nuked the towerss are real dying of lung disease, and on and on.


Yeah, I was just breaking Comrade parrots balls by posting that. LOL

ZioShills REALLY hate the fact thermite was found at ground zero back in 2009.

Back in 2001 there were only 2 places worldwide where nano-thermites were manufactured. The Lawrence Livermore lab in California under contract to the Pentagon and at the super thermite lab in Israel.

Kinda narrows the 911 suspects down, huh?

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longbobby
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Complete Article

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

EXCERPTS

INTRODUCTION

The destruction of three skyscrapers (WTC 1, 2 and 7) on September 11, 2001 was an immensely tragic catastrophe that not only impacted thousands of people and families directly, due to injury and loss of life, but also provided the motivation for numerous expensive and radical changes in domestic and foreign policy. For these and other reasons, knowing what really happened that fateful day is of grave importance.

A great deal of effort has been put forth by various government-sponsored and -funded investigations, which led, in large part, to the reports released by FEMA [1] and NIST [2]. Other studies of the destruction have been less well publicized but are no less important to the outstanding obligation that remains to the victims of that tragedy, to determine the whole truth of the events of that day [3-10]. A number of these studies have appropriately focused attention on the remaining physical material, and on available photographs and video footage, as sources of evidence still in public hands, relating to the method of destruction of the three skyscrapers.

CONCLUSIONS

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in significant numbers in dust associated with the World Trade Center destruction. We have applied SEM/XEDS and other methods to characterize the small-scale structure and chemical signature of these chips, especially of their red component. The red material is most interesting and has the following characteristics:

1. It is composed of aluminum, iron, oxygen, silicon and carbon. Lesser amounts of other potentially reactive elements are sometimes present, such as potassium, sulfur, lead, barium and copper.

2. The primary elements (Al, Fe, O, Si, C) are typically all present in particles at the scale of tens to hundreds of nanometers, and detailed XEDS mapping shows intimate mixing.

3. On treatment with methyl ethyl ketone solvent, some segregation of components occurred. Elemental aluminum became sufficiently concentrated to be clearly identified in the pre-ignition material.

4. Iron oxide appears in faceted grains roughly 100 nm across whereas the aluminum appears in thin platelike structures. The small size of the iron oxide particles qualifies the material to be characterized as nanothermite or super-thermite. 5. Analysis shows that iron and oxygen are present in a ratio consistent with Fe2O3. The red material in all four WTC dust samples was similar in this way. Iron oxide was found in the pre-ignition material whereas elemental iron was not.

6. From the presence of elemental aluminum and iron oxide in the red material, we conclude that it contains the ingredients of thermite.

7. As measured using DSC, the material ignites and reacts vigorously at a temperature of approximately 430 °C, with a rather narrow exotherm, matching fairly closely an independent observation on a known super-thermite sample. The low temperature of ignition and the presence of iron oxide grains less than 120 nm show that the material is not conventional thermite (which ignites at temperatures above 900 °C) but very likely a form of super-thermite.

8. After igniting several red/gray chips in a DSC run to 700 °C, we found numerous iron-rich spheres and spheroids in the residue, indicating that a very high temperature reaction had occurred, since the iron-rich product clearly must have been molten to form these shapes. In several spheres, elemental iron was verified since the iron content significantly exceeded the oxygen content. We conclude that a high-temperature reduction-oxidation reaction has occurred in the heated chips, namely, the thermite reaction.

9. The spheroids produced by the DSC tests and by the flame test have an XEDS signature (Al, Fe, O, Si, C) which is depleted in carbon and aluminum relative to the original red material. This chemical signature strikingly matches the chemical signature of the spheroids produced by igniting commercial thermite, and also matches the signatures of many of the microspheres found in the WTC dust [5].

10. The carbon content of the red material indicates that an organic substance is present. This would be expected for super-thermite formulations in order to produce high gas pressures upon ignition and thus make them explosive. The nature of the organic material in these chips merits further exploration. We note that it is likely also an energetic material, in that the total energy release sometimes observed in DSC tests exceeds the theoretical maximum energy of the classic thermite reaction.

Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.

(emphasis added)

Complete Article

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM



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tragicparrot
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Quote from 57channels:
Long

The red/gray chips are the 'loaded gun' of 9-11."
=======================================================
There are many loaded guns.........after one figures out all the loaded guns and you reach down the rabbit hole : Fake planes, fake hijackers, fake videos, fake eye witness testimony, fake passenger lists, fake NTSB data, fake news reports [ #7 collapsing while in the background ]

The gold stole from the vaults under the WTC was real though...the troops and people in Iraq and Afghanistan dying are real though. The first repsonders after the feds nuked the towerss are real dying of lung disease, and on and on.


Awww, how sweet that you care about the first responders. Even though according to you they're either in on it or completely fake.

Oh, and sorry, but the golds no longer missing. Or are you just holding back that evidence too?

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Long


Back in 2001 there were only 2 places worldwide where nano-thermites were manufactured. The Lawrence Livermore lab in California under contract to the Pentagon and at the super thermite lab in Israel.

Kinda narrows the 911 suspects down, huh?
=========================================================
Both labs probably got a huge chunk of the 2.3 trillion Dov Zakheim stole from the Pentacon. I bet the phony a** Mossad [ posing as art students who lived at WTC the summer of 2001 ] probly got a good hunk of that dough.

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longbobby
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Quote from 57channels:
Long


Back in 2001 there were only 2 places worldwide where nano-thermites were manufactured. The Lawrence Livermore lab in California under contract to the Pentagon and at the super thermite lab in Israel.

Kinda narrows the 911 suspects down, huh?
=========================================================
Both labs probably got a huge chunk of the 2.3 trillion Dov Zakheim stole from the Pentacon. I bet the phony a** Mossad [ posing as art students who lived at WTC the summer of 2001 ] probly got a good hunk of that dough.


Comrade parrot is claiming the Zhids brought the gold they stole back. I bet he claims next Rabbi Dov Zakheim gave the 2.3 trillion he stole back too.

You ever wonder who these Zhids expect to believe them when they say nonsense like that? Anybody following along in this thread already knows Comrade parrot will say ANYTHING for "poor little Israel".

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tragic

Awww, how sweet that you care about the first responders. Even though according to you they're either in on it or completely fake.
=======================================================
You lying sack of dogs ass. I never said anything about the 1st responders on the scene you lying ahole. The only thing I might have said is " Rudy saying the air was safe to breathe "...which was another lie. I did say a long time ago....those 1st responders should be dressed up in space suits to go through all that asbestos and thermite or thermate and all that concrete dust.

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The Open Chemical Physics Journal is an Open Access online journal which publishes research articles, reviews and letters in all areas of chemical physics.

The Open Chemical Physics Journal is a peer-reviewed journal which aims to provide the most complete and reliable source of information on current developments in chemical physics. The emphasis will be on publishing quality papers rapidly and freely available to researchers worldwide.


ZioShills REALLY hated that Article on nano-thermites when it came out back in April 2009. Didn't slow their lying down any. Might've even made them lay on their lies a little thicker.

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Quote from 57channels:
tragic

Awww, how sweet that you care about the first responders. Even though according to you they're either in on it or completely fake.
=======================================================
You lying sack of dogs ass. I never said anything about the 1st responders on the scene you lying ahole. The only thing I might have said is " Rudy saying the air was safe to breathe "...which was another lie. I did say a long time ago....those 1st responders should be dressed up in space suits to go through all that asbestos and thermite or thermate and all that concrete dust.


And who was it might you have been referring to here? Are you really that screwed up 57channels?

Quote from 57channels:
The gold stole from the vaults under the WTC was real though...the troops and people in Iraq and Afghanistan dying are real though. The first repsonders after the feds nuked the towerss are real dying of lung disease, and on and on.


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Uploaded on 2 Sep 2010

When Kurt Sonnenfeld went into WTC 6 with FEMA to take photographs, they found the
vault door of the US Customs vault open and its contents were empty! WTC Building 6
housed the El Dorado Task Force, an interagency money-laundering watchdog group led
by the US Customs Service and the Internal Revenue Service. At the time of 9/11, the
interagency task force was based in the US Customs Office in Building, and was
responsible for coordinating federal and state money laundering investigations.

9/11 was a massive financial crime, and a massive cover-up of previous financial crimes
including CIA slush funds that lead to all sorts of illegal and covert intelligence activities
over the past 10 years:
http://www.wanttoknow.info/911/Collat...

Kurt Sonenfield needs to make multiple multiple copies of his footage and get it out
there before the US Government can pick him up and silence him. The charges against
him are patently false and are simply a smoke screen so the Government can grab and
censor that footage like they did with so much of the other evidence from 9/11, like the
Pentagon Security Cameras...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...644#post885644

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78720-Kurt-Sonnenfeld-to-be-Extradited-to-the-U.S.

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Patriotic, God-loving, peaceful Jewish People are NOT the same as the war mongering ZIONIST KHAZARIAN Jews.

KHAZARIAN Jews: "An ANTI-SEMITE is a person who exposes our crimes."

Hey, we have to be slaves and not complain about it. Otherwise we'd be "anti-Semitic."

It's "anti-Semitic" to notice what's happening and who's in charge, and it's "anti-Semitic" to complain about it.

Ever notice that ?

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Since I know longbobby simply ignored the article...

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

Here's a Debunking911 Fun Fact!

How much mass would be required to produce molten iron from thermite equal to the same volume of molten aluminum droplets shown flowing from the south tower window:


A mole of Fe weighs 54 g. For every mole of Fe produced by thermite, one mole of Al and 0.5 mole of Fe2O3 is needed.

2Al + Fe2O3 = Al2O3 + 2Fe


One mole of Al weighs 27 g. 0.5 mole of Fe2O3 weighs 80 g.

Therefore, (27 + 80) g = 107 g of Al and Fe2O3 is needed to produce 54 g of Fe.

That means the mass of the reactants to that of Fe produced is a ratio of 107/54 = 2. The mass of thermite reactants (Al, Fe2O3) is twice that of the molten iron produced.

Comparing the weight of molten aluminum droplets compared with iron:

Iron is 7.9 g/cc. Aluminum is 2.64 g/cc. Fe is denser than Al by a factor of 3. For the same volume of droplets, Fe would have three times the mass as Al.

To produce the iron from thermite requires a reactant mass that is a factor of 2 more than the iron produced. Also, Fe is 3 times as dense as Al. So, it would take 2*3 = 6 times as much mass to produce the same volume of molten iron droplets from thermite compared with molten aluminum droplets.

Example:

Assume 3000 lbs of aluminum fell from the towers. If it had been molten iron produced by thermite, then 6*3000 = 18,000 lbs of thermite reactants would have been required to produce that same volume of falling mass.

Suppose 10 tons of molten aluminum fell from the south tower, about 1/8th of that available from the airplane. If it had been molten iron produced from thermite, 60 tons of thermite reactants would have to have been stored in Fuji Bank to produce the same volume spilling out of the south tower. The section of floor would have to hold all of that plus the aircraft.

*Amount of aluminum can be ascertained by counting the droplets and measuring their size compared to the known size of the window. It's not easy to get a good number on this. It's based on the number of slugs seen in video stills, their size relative to the window width which was about 22 inches, and the density of aluminum, assuming this was aluminum.

The weight of a gallon of aluminum is about 22.5 pounds. A hundred of these would already be 2250 lbs. A gallon size is not unlike the size of the slugs that were pouring out the window. Look at them relative to the window size. They look small at first, but when you realize how big the towers were, the slugs were fairly large. It must have been in the thousands of pounds.

Some of the video stills show what look like 50 to 100 slugs in just one frame...



Continued...

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""The thermite wouldn't have only needed to make a clean cut like the photo above, it would have also needed to cut sideways. Not an easy feat for thermite. You see, it's a powder which burns chaotically. Maybe with some device but no working device has been proven to me to work to cut a vertical column. You can direct it with a canister but that method wouldn't work to cut a column. The canister only makes a small hole. Nano-thermite has been talked about but its uses fall far short of cutting these massive columns. It's in its research stage. They include possible uses for welding molecular devices and possible use as a heat signature flare decoy. Then there is a patent of a device which has been brought up but as of yet, there is no evidence the idea went any further. Does it even work? Even if it did, they are "Ganged" together to make the cut. You would still need these boxes all over the columns. Once again the answer to this from the "scholars" is "rationalized technology". They need this technology to exist so it exists. There is some secret super thermite which can be placed in a canister which can survive 1,100 degree C so the primary charge doesn't go off.""

Linky...

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

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You can bet the Denver police have been threatened or blackmailed to try and throw Kurt in prison for his wifes suicide. They probably have all kinds of fake evidence to try and convict him. I pray he doesn't ever have to come back to the USA. He has 22 days of footage at Groud Zero that the US Govt. does not want released....not that the Jewish owned media would ever make a big splash about. Poor Kurt I pray for him and his new wife and 2 kids.

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"A major STM journal publisher of 92 online and print journals, 200 plus open access journals, and related print/online book series, Bentham Science answers the informational needs of the pharmaceutical, biomedical and medical research community."

Bentham Science looks pretty accredited to me, Comrade parrot. So why did you want to lie about that too, I wonder ? Hmmmmm..............



[Edited 8/20/2015 4:47:20 PM ]

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Quote from tragicparrot:
http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm....and http://www.debunking911.com/index.html...have been debunked as a Zionist owned shill site.

Who owns the website?

Who is the webmaster?

Where is the "about us" page?

None of those exist anywhere at debunking911.com. No one can tell who finances the website.

All those are major red flags. Any credible website will tell you who they are and who finances them and who owns the website.



That one doesn't. they don't WANT people to know. That means its zio owned and controlled. A shill site with shill info for shills to use.

You're marking yourself for being what you are just by using it.

Once again Comrade parrot...your "slip" is showing.

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NEW: Bentham Science Publishers are launching more than 200 peer-reviewed open access journals, under the banner of "BENTHAM OPEN". These free-to-view online journals cover all major disciplines of science, technology, and medicine.

My my my...science and technology. Don't you feel bad having "no direct knowledge" when you make your "guesses" Comrade birdbrained creature ?

Maybe you would look a little bit less like a fool and a liar if you did; don't you think ? But when did facts ever override faith, right Comrade birdbrained creature ?

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Quote from longbobby:
Quote from tragicparrot:
http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm....and http://www.debunking911.com/index.html...have been debunked as a Zionist owned shill site.

Who owns the website?

Who is the webmaster?

Where is the "about us" page?

None of those exist anywhere at debunking911.com. No one can tell who finances the website.

All those are major red flags. Any credible website will tell you who they are and who finances them and who owns the website.



That one doesn't. they don't WANT people to know. That means its zio owned and controlled. A shill site with shill info for shills to use.

You're marking yourself for being what you are just by using it.

Once again Comrade parrot...your "slip" is showing.


If your attempting to find out who owns a particular website, how they're financed, or, whether they employ an external webmaster, then I suggest you contact them yourself. For now, i'm satisfied with the fact the website in question lists all their authors accordingly, and with good merit.

http://www.jod911.com/

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Quote from tragicparrot:
If your attempting to find out who owns a particular website, how they're financed, or, whether they employ an external webmaster, then I suggest you contact them yourself. For now, i'm satisfied with the fact the website in question lists all their authors accordingly, and with good merit.

http://www.jod911.com/
--------------------------------------

That's my point...there is NO WAY TO contact the owner of the website. It's pretty clear the "owner" of the website is the Israeli Mossad.



I'm still wondering why it took thermite an hour to start burning when in the presence of fire. Over an hour and a half for the other tower.

Are you supposing the fire set the thermite off ? Here is a thought for you, what if it didn't ? The fires themselves were only a very small part of each building.(both over 100 floors remember) ...remember both buildings collapsed from the top floor down where there was no fire, just smoke.

But why would thermite be present at all when it is only used for controlled demolitions...or if there is another job and/or reason to MELT STEEL ! That is the only purpose for thermite...to MELT STEEL...say it again a few times; you'll understand more, I think.

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Quote from srv63:
My little muppet,how can the flash of thermate being ignited inside of a building, be seen from space? Can a satellite see thru the twenty floors of the skyscraper to record the flash? Answer is NO.p


D*ckhead, you completely missed the point and lack an understanding of how thermite performs.


As far as evidence of thermate in the dust on 9/11, yes it was found by french scientists so AGAIN your wrong.


No it wasn't.


Insert the obligatory and condescending zen emot.

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Quote from longbobby:
Quote from tragicparrot:
If your attempting to find out who owns a particular website, how they're financed, or, whether they employ an external webmaster, then I suggest you contact them yourself. For now, i'm satisfied with the fact the website in question lists all their authors accordingly, and with good merit.

http://www.jod911.com/
--------------------------------------

That's my point...there is NO WAY TO contact the owner of the website. It's pretty clear the "owner" of the website is the Israeli Mossad.


That's odd, I had no issue what so ever making contact with their advisory board.

At any rate, you can either submit questions or contribute a document here...

""Submit a PDF or Microsoft Word Document to the Journals E-mail address. Check manuscript length limitations listed below. Papers under review, accepted for publication, or published elsewhere are not accepted. E-mail the Journals Department for JD911 for complete instructions for manuscript preparation. Submit your documents for review at [email protected]""

Do keep in mind "The Journal of Debunking 911" is a free online publication. Should you submit anything that is in anyway discriminatory towards race or religion, you will be rightfully ignored.

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Quote from tragicparrot:
That's odd, I had no issue what so ever making contact with their advisory board.

At any rate, you can either submit questions or contribute a document here...

""Submit a PDF or Microsoft Word Document to the Journals E-mail address. Check manuscript length limitations listed below. Papers under review, accepted for publication, or published elsewhere are not accepted. E-mail the Journals Department for JD911 for complete instructions for manuscript preparation. Submit your documents for review at [email protected]""

Do keep in mind "The Journal of Debunking 911" is a free online publication. Should you submit anything that is in anyway discriminatory towards race or religion, you will be rightfully ignored.
================================

Mossad R Us, eh? Isn't that what I said before? Can't submit anything factual that implicates Israel, huh? Figures.

"The Journal of Debunking 911", eh? LOLOL ... RIIIGHT! I didn't see anything like that on your Mossad disinformation shill site.



BYU Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples, Building Collapses an Inside Job author: Jacob Hamblin

Based on chemical analysis of WTC structural steel residue, a Brigham Young University physics professor has identified the material as Thermate. Thermate is the controlled demolition explosive thermite plus sulfur. Sulfur cases the thermite to burn hotter, cutting steel quickly and leaving trails of yellow colored residue.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341238.shtml

Come on, Comrade parrot.....lie to us some more.

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tragicparrot
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Quote from longbobby:
Quote from tragicparrot:
That's odd, I had no issue what so ever making contact with their advisory board.

At any rate, you can either submit questions or contribute a document here...

""Submit a PDF or Microsoft Word Document to the Journals E-mail address. Check manuscript length limitations listed below. Papers under review, accepted for publication, or published elsewhere are not accepted. E-mail the Journals Department for JD911 for complete instructions for manuscript preparation. Submit your documents for review at [email protected]""

Do keep in mind "The Journal of Debunking 911" is a free online publication. Should you submit anything that is in anyway discriminatory towards race or religion, you will be rightfully ignored.
================================

Mossad R Us, eh? Isn't that what I said before? Can't submit anything factual that implicates Israel, huh? Figures.

"The Journal of Debunking 911", eh? LOLOL ... RIIIGHT! I didn't see anything like that on your Mossad disinformation shill site.



BYU Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples, Building Collapses an Inside Job author: Jacob Hamblin

Based on chemical analysis of WTC structural steel residue, a Brigham Young University physics professor has identified the material as Thermate. Thermate is the controlled demolition explosive thermite plus sulfur. Sulfur cases the thermite to burn hotter, cutting steel quickly and leaving trails of yellow colored residue.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341238.shtml

Come on, Comrade parrot.....lie to us some more.


""Thermitic demolition should have created copious pools of melted steel at Ground Zero, but nothing remotely like this was ever found. Truthers say iron microspheres found in the rubble indicate thermite; since hot fires and spot-welding do produce very tiny spheres of iron, though, these “microspheres” are not unexpected. Pictures of cranes holding red-hot materials in the rubble are said to show molten steel. Had this been the case, however, the crane rigs would have immediately seized up (Blanchard 2006). No reports of “molten steel” in the tower basements have ever been credibly verified (Roberts 2008). Some Truthers claim that a few pieces of sulfidized “eutectic” steel found in the towers proves thermate (thermite with sulfur) usage, but this occurred because sulfur, released from burned drywall, corroded the steel as it stewed in the pile for weeks (Roberts 2008).""

Linky again...

http://www.csicop.org/si/show/the_9_11_truth_movement_the_top_conspiracy_theory_a_decade_later

Where's the lie longbobby?

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tragicparrot
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Quote from 57channels:
You can bet the Denver police have been threatened or blackmailed to try and throw Kurt in prison for his wifes suicide. They probably have all kinds of fake evidence to try and convict him. I pray he doesn't ever have to come back to the USA. He has 22 days of footage at Groud Zero that the US Govt. does not want released....not that the Jewish owned media would ever make a big splash about. Poor Kurt I pray for him and his new wife and 2 kids.


Yeah, poor Kurt. Shot his wife in the back of the head, then tries to claim it was a suicide. Whats astonishing in regards to his 22 days of footage at ground zero, was his inability whilst in Argentina to make public the most damaging footage he claimed proved the US Government was involved in 911. I mean really, did they not have Youtube, Facebook, or Twitter in Argentina?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/01/02/911-truther-to-be-extradited/21220723/

From Wiki...

""His name has been associated with controversy since 2002 when his first wife Nancy died from a gunshot wound to the head. The precise circumstances of her death are unknown, but Kurt Sonnenfeld is currently wanted for her murder by the Colorado police. At the time of his wife's death, January 1, 2002, he was arrested for her murder. Officers responding to the scene reported seeing high-velocity blood spatter on Sonnenfeld's face, indicating he was in close proximity to the gunshot. Gunpowder residue was found on his pants and jacket but not his hands. Gunpowder residue was found on his wife's hand and only her fingerprints were found on the gun.[7] An alleged suicide note in Nancy's hand writing was later found by investigators, working in favor of Kurt's defense. Prosecutors dropped the case in June 2002 but maintained the right to refile. The renewed interest by prosecutors in Colorado is premised on putative confessions Sonnenfeld made to two other cellmates while he was in jail awaiting trial.[8]

The US government is seeking his extradition from Argentina. The Argentine court has refused, saying they have not received sufficient assurances from Colorado that Sonnenfeld would not be killed despite the fact that Colorado has repeatedly assured Argentina that it will not seek the death penalty.[9]

Sonnenfeld lives in Buenos Aires with his wife and two children, and works as a videographer for Argentine media. Sonnenfeld in a 2009 interview, argues that the US government wants his extradition in order to eliminate him as a witness of the 9/11 false-flag attack coverup.[4]

On January 2, 2015, the Argentine Supreme Court announced its decision to extradite Sonnenfeld to the United States. [10]""

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Quote from tragicparrot:
""Thermitic demolition should have created copious pools of melted steel at Ground Zero, but nothing remotely like this was ever found. Truthers say iron microspheres found in the rubble indicate thermite; since hot fires and spot-welding do produce very tiny spheres of iron, though, these “microspheres” are not unexpected. Pictures of cranes holding red-hot materials in the rubble are said to show molten steel. Had this been the case, however, the crane rigs would have immediately seized up (Blanchard 2006). No reports of “molten steel” in the tower basements have ever been credibly verified (Roberts 2008). Some Truthers claim that a few pieces of sulfidized “eutectic” steel found in the towers proves thermate (thermite with sulfur) usage, but this occurred because sulfur, released from burned drywall, corroded the steel as it stewed in the pile for weeks (Roberts 2008).""

Linky again...

http://www.csicop.org/si/show/the_9_11_truth_movement_the_top_conspiracy_theory_a_decade_later

Where's the lie longbobby?


Tragic, the crane pic is a fake.


http://www.sharpprintinginc.com/911/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=50&MMN_position=79:79

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Quote from class5:
Tragic, the crane pic is a fake.


http://www.sharpprintinginc.com/911/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=50&MMN_position=79:79


Behold! Its a portable foundry! What else will truther's think of next?

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Prof. Steven Jones, who conducted his PhD research at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center and post-doctoral research at Cornell University and the Los Alamos Meson Physics Facility, has analyised materials from WTC and has detected the existence of thermate, used for "cutting" the steel support columns, as evident in the photo below.

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The Megaphone desktop tool is a Windows "action alert" tool developed by Give Israel Your United Support (GIYUS) and distributed by World Union of Jewish Students, World Jewish Congress, The Jewish Agency for Israel, World Zionist Organization, StandWithUs, Hasbara fellowships, HonestReporting, and other pro-Israel public relations, media watchdog, or activism organizations.

The tool delivers real-time alerts about key articles, videos, blogs, and surveys related to Israel or the Arab-Israeli conflict, especially those perceived by GIYUS to be highly critical of Israel, so that users can vote or add comments expressing their support of Israel.

The tool was released in July during the 2006 Lebanon War. An RSS newsfeed is available so that non-Windows users may also receive the Megaphone "action alerts."

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Quote from higgy51:
Thank you for answering my post, very much appreciated.

I didn't understand that the 4 agents you say would be enough would also include an army of civilians held at gun point to unload a truck full of parts.

When you said 4 agents, my stupid logical mind thought you meant just that, 4 agents...but now we see you have now forced witnesses and holy shit, even MINI cranes which I guess were operated by the 4 agents, no, can't be, they would have forced other people to handle those cranes, not to mention drivers with trucks to drive them there.

Suddenly srv, your FOUR turns into a score.

Anyway, as I said, thanks for the answer....now about the answer to the other post, reproduced here below where I await your explanation of how Hess could have been on LIVE TV (as confirmed by Conspirator Nutcases) one hour before Jennings say's he was rescued.

Pluse, lest you forget, they were TRAPPED for 1 1/2 hours, so that would put the 'trapping' to have occurred around 11.30. An hour after the Tower collapsed.


So as usual, you are going to come up with far fetched bullshit to make it seem impossible for four fair sized cia agents to handle a mini crane, much the same crane we common americans use every day all across america when we want to pull the engines out of our cars by ourselves instead of being raped by mechanic shops.A mini crane is narrow enough to fit thru doorways and instead of manually operated, it is completely hydraulic to where only one person is required to operate it to lift and move heavy objects. Since there was a scaffolding at all of the locations where the planted aircraft parts were,who's to say that them parts were not already sitting in them locations and planted the night before and with tarps covering them since they were all found in a construction area? Makes allot better sense than your nist and 9/11 commission report that wants us to believe that the jet engine and the landing gear flew thru the air and both decided to take a break right up against some scaffolding where construction was going on.

Here is one REAL GOOD question for you shills. What are the odds of two heavy duty pieces of airplane hardware (a jet engine and landing gear) flying thru the air and BOTH land right up against two different erected scaffolds WITHOUT EVEN SCRATCHING THEM? The odds of me winning the freakin lotto are even better.

As far as your spineless p*ssy hess and his testimony, it has HUGE HOLES in it therefore his testimony is worth SHIT, the same as his character

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Quote from srv63:
So as usual, you are going to come up with far fetched bullshit to make it seem impossible for four fair sized cia agents to handle a mini crane, much the same crane we common americans use every day all across america when we want to pull the engines out of our cars by ourselves instead of being raped by mechanic shops.A mini crane is narrow enough to fit thru doorways and instead of manually operated, it is completely hydraulic to where only one person is required to operate it to lift and move heavy objects. Since there was a scaffolding at all of the locations where the planted aircraft parts were,who's to say that them parts were not already sitting in them locations and planted the night before and with tarps covering them since they were all found in a construction area? Makes allot better sense than your nist and 9/11 commission report that wants us to believe that the jet engine and the landing gear flew thru the air and both decided to take a break right up against some scaffolding where construction was going on.

Here is one REAL GOOD question for you shills. What are the odds of two heavy duty pieces of airplane hardware (a jet engine and landing gear) flying thru the air and BOTH land right up against two different erected scaffolds WITHOUT EVEN SCRATCHING THEM? The odds of me winning the freakin lotto are even better.

As far as your spineless p*ssy hess and his testimony, it has HUGE HOLES in it therefore his testimony is worth SHIT, the same as his character


Jesus.

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tragicparrot
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Quote from longbobby:
Prof. Steven Jones, who conducted his PhD research at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center and post-doctoral research at Cornell University and the Los Alamos Meson Physics Facility, has analyised materials from WTC and has detected the existence of thermate, used for "cutting" the steel support columns, as evident in the photo below.


Any particular reason why you left out the photo?

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srv63
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Quote from naprinciple:
Last chance sir. If you respond with anything other than a 1 word answer, yes or no, you're on perma-block.



Can 767-200 go faster at sea level, than at 35,000 feet. Yes or no!



"One ping only, Visili!"


Hey Na, i know the answer and i'm just a dumb assed country boy. Can i answer it huh, huh?

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longbobby
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Quote from tragicparrot:
Any particular reason why you left out the photo?
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I wanted you to ask about it knowing in advance your curiosity would compel you to ask.

ZioShills are really quite predictable, you know.

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class5
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Quote from tragicparrot:
Any particular reason why you left out the photo?


Back on Jones and Harritt again are we?

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tragicparrot
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Quote from longbobby:
Quote from tragicparrot:
Any particular reason why you left out the photo?
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I wanted you to ask about it knowing in advance your curiosity would compel you to ask.

ZioShills are really quite predictable, you know.


And I only asked about it because I knew in advance you would never have the balls post it.



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longbobby
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Quote from tragicparrot:
And I only asked about it because I knew in advance you would never have the balls post it.
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You've seen the photo anyway. it's the one where all the girders were cut by thermate at a precise 45 degree angle.

Everyone has seen the photo. That's how they know 911 was an inside job.

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tragicparrot
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Quote from longbobby:
Quote from tragicparrot:
And I only asked about it because I knew in advance you would never have the balls post it.
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You've seen the photo anyway. it's the one where all the girders were cut by thermate at a precise 45 degree angle.

Everyone has seen the photo. That's how they know 911 was an inside job.


As in this photo?



Again, this has already been covered here...

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm



[Edited 8/20/2015 9:11:20 PM ]

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longbobby
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Quote from tragicparrot:
As in this photo?
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See there, Comrade birdbrained creature. I knew you knew what I was talking about. What kind of spin did the Mossad put on it?



Why are people with judaism as their religion so interested in 911 to begin with ? Israel didn't have anything to do with 911 ?

Right ?

Or did it ?

You judaism guys sure like to try to debunk the 911 posts.

Just a coincidence, right?

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srv63
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Quote from srv63:
My little muppet,how can the flash of thermate being ignited inside of a building, be seen from space? Can a satellite see thru the twenty floors of the skyscraper to record the flash? Answer is NO.p


D*ckhead, you completely missed the point and lack an understanding of how thermite performs.

Actually, your the ignorant one here on the subject of thermate or else you would have never made such an ignorant comment claiming that the thermatic flash would have been seen from space.


As far as evidence of thermate in the dust on 9/11, yes it was found by french scientists so AGAIN your wrong.


No it wasn't.


Insert the obligatory and condescending zen emot.

Look it up yourself because google can be your friend, or you could ask longbobby since he also found the PROOF and beat me to posting it for you lazy assed shills

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srv63
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Quote from tragicparrot:
As in this photo?



Again, this has already been covered here...

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm


Thank you for posting that pic of the column parrot. I have a very simple question for you. How did that column get cut at that 45 degree angle? THIS is more my expertise.I anxiously await your answer

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class5
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Quote from srv63:
Quote from srv63:
Actually, your the ignorant one here on the subject of thermate or else you would have never made such an ignorant comment claiming that the thermatic flash would have been seen from space.


The tonnage required would have caused a giant flash that was not recorded. It is possible that it would have been viewed from space, and I stand by my remark. You're just trying to minimise the effect in order to make your story plausible, and it won't work. The thermite canard is dead as there is no proof to support such a fairy tale.

Look it up yourself because google can be your friend, or you could ask longbobby since he also found the PROOF and beat me to posting it for you lazy assed shills


I know you are wrong because I've followed the thermite/thermate/nano-thermite debate for years. You are thinking of the Jones/Harrit/Farer study(?) that was published in the Bentham paper for a fee. The editor had to resign over the resulting scandal and the authors are Danes, not French.

Produce the link if you're so convinced. Do this properly instead of bickering like a child.

Insert the obligatory condescending zen emot.



[Edited 8/20/2015 9:33:13 PM ]

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class5
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Quote from srv63:
Thank you for posting that pic of the column parrot. I have a very simple question for you. How did that column get cut at that 45 degree angle? THIS is more my expertise.I anxiously await your answer


The cleanup crews cut the column. The evidence for this has already been provided earlier in the thread when Fun broached the same canard.

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srv63
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Quote from class5:
The cleanup crews cut the column. The evidence for this has already been provided earlier in the thread when Fun broached the same canard.


I GOT YOU MOTHER F**KERS NOW. THAT 45 DEGREE CUT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT FROM THE CLEANUP CREWS.I CAN PROVE IT.

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class5
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Quote from srv63:
I GOT YOU MOTHER F**KERS NOW. THAT 45 DEGREE CUT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT FROM THE CLEANUP CREWS.I CAN PROVE IT.


Why all the anger and ad homs? Can't you debate like an adult?

Go on then prove it, as all the sources state the clean up crews did this. What 'proof' do you have?

This will be good. I won't however, hold my breath. LOL

Insert the fashionable condescending zen emot.



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srv63
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Quote from class5:
Why all the anger? Can't you debate like an adult?

Go on then as all the sources state the clean up crews did this. What 'proof' do you have?

This will be good. I won't however, hold my breath. LOL

Insert the fashionable condescending zen emot.


Tell me Mr knows nothing. Have you ever operated a oxygen/acetylene rig? Have you EVER been on a construction site setting up or removing structures? Have you ever operated a plasma rig? If you had answered yes to ANY of these questions then we would not be having this conversation. BUT KNOW THIS,your asses are now OWNED!!!

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srv63
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Since its getting a bit late, im fixing to go to bed and will let you shills ponder on exactly what it is that I KNOW that will DEBUNK every damn one of you shills across the web. Sweet dreams cupcake

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class5
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Quote from srv63:
Tell me Mr knows nothing. Have you ever operated a oxygen/acetylene rig? Have you EVER been on a construction site setting up or removing structures? Have you ever operated a plasma rig? If you had answered yes to ANY of these questions then we would not be having this conversation. BUT KNOW THIS,your asses are now OWNED!!!


Project manager on many sites. Tig and Mig in my experience, but I've only seen a plasma in operation. Anyway, this distraction only serves to delay your evidence

Prove it or shut the f**k up. I'm not interested in your distractions. Get on with it and cut the empty blather. All sources (except for the nutter sites) state that the clean up crew cut this column. Thermite could not make such a clean and precise cut, so that won't fly.

I'm sure you will delay and avoid producing this evidence as that is your MO.

Insert the fashionable and condescending zen emot because it seems to legitimise one's post if Stevie Ray is anything to go by.