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8/18/2015 1:39:39 PM  
higgy51
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Quote from higgy51:
Well, seeing that he and Hess were together, one would anticiapte that they were rescued together and according to the time of the live tv recording at 11:57, it would be have been just before that and, according to Hess, had been TRAPPED in there for 1 1/2hours. Now the word TRAPPED is the key word srv, prior to the 'explosion' they were NOT TRAPPED, they were hopping, skipping their merry way down the stairs (according to you with Jennings saying that), they were not TRAPPED, they were free and easy and enjoying being able to see and breathe...UNTIL B A N G the 'explosion' and the collapse if the sixth floor.

Suddenly, black smoke, unable to see and unable to go anywhere, they WERE TRAPPED.

90 minutes later (about), Hess was talking to a reporter on LIVE TV.

AQs to what time Jennings and Hess arrived at the WTC? After the evacuation of the OEM and the WTC which would have been around 9.45 as an educated guess. Don't forget srv, WTC 7 was EMPTY, save the triage being establish to cater for the evacuation of North and South Towers.

With that point in mind, they arrived AFTER the building was evacuated and with the proof that Hess was on LIVE tv at 11:57, it is safe to assume that they had both been rescued a few minutes before that time.

I hope that answers your question Srv. They were in the building around 9.45 to around 11.55. TRAPPED at around 10.30 - consistent with the collapse of the Tower.

They were NOT in there for SEVERAL hours as claimed by Jennings.


You seem to be ignoring this Srv...any reason why?

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8/18/2015 1:54:28 PM Navarro, CA  

srv63
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Quote from higgy51:
No comments srv?

Does this time frame seem far more logical (and truthful) than yours?


One big problem with your timeframe shill. Hess and Jennings were not rescued till 1PM but then you already knew that

8/18/2015 1:57:45 PM Navarro, CA  

srv63
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Quote from higgy51:
Please do show what barium and thermate have in common.


Are we gonna act dumb now? Barium means the thermate was military grade but you also already knew that as well

8/18/2015 3:38:44 PM Navarro, CA  

tragicparrot
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Quote from srv63:
Are we gonna act dumb now? Barium means the thermate was military grade but you also already knew that as well


You have yet to provide a reasonable source that confirms thermite or barium was found in or around ground zero. Sorry, but Youtube video's are the least desirable source for which to substantiate known facts, especially given the source from which they originated from. I also find it rather amusing that not but a few posts ago you posted this...

Quote from srv63:
I'm not an authority on thermite so for now i cannot tell you how many pounds of thermite would have been used to bring down all three buildings into their own footprints. Thermite WAS found in the dust debris by outside scientists so you shills cannot deny it.You parrot, seem to be an expert on thermite by questioning my statement so you tell me, how many pounds of thermite did your puppet master use?


But then soon afterwards you stated this...

Quote from srv63:
By the way, i have done a fair bit of research on thermite to where i know the difference between it and other high temperature steel cutting compounds. I realise now that i have been using the wrong word for the compound that was used to cut thru the massive main columns that supported all three skyscrapers and that compound is military grade "THERMATE"


For someone who claimed to not be an authority on thermite, what a coincidence you've suddenly gained enough knowledge to suggest a military grade thermate must have employed as opposed to having used the "wrong word" once again.

8/18/2015 4:16:23 PM Navarro, CA  

57channels
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tragic

For someone who claimed to not be an authority on thermite, what a coincidence you've suddenly gained enough knowledge to suggest a military grade thermate must have employed as opposed to having used the "wrong word" once again.
===================================================
Since both towers were pulverized or blown to smithereens with dust all over Manhattan...I think we can assume both towers were mini nuked or micro nuked. But......but you have every sheeples right to think the burnt up jet fuel buckled the beams or melted them.

8/18/2015 4:22:50 PM Navarro, CA  

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I almost forgot too------ that burnt up so-called jet fuel toasted all those cars around the WTC, some blocks away also.No.......I think the feds used some new "test" of explosives and basically nuked both towers. But...but Rudy said the "air was okay to breathe " that lying sack of shit. Tell it to the thousands that will die from that crap that were breathing in both towers.

8/18/2015 6:10:56 PM Navarro, CA  

srv63
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Quote from tragicparrot:
For someone who claimed to not be an authority on thermite, what a coincidence you've suddenly gained enough knowledge to suggest a military grade thermate must have employed as opposed to having used the "wrong word" once again.


So in other words, you shills think that i should have no opinion on what might have been used to bring the towers down into their own footprints? If that's the case, you paid jews have no right trying to backup the governments bullshit nist report because you shills have no expertise in the fields that we have been discussing either.

The knowledge that i have been absorbing thru researching is what helps me break that chain of ignorance that you scumbag shills hope to bound us by, and instead i'm able to follow my common sense and logic to be able to locate the real truth.

Here's a question for you shills to answer whenever you feel froggy. Explain to us why it is, that the "five dancing israeli's" knew about the twin towers fixing to be hit and were there that day video taping it BEFORE WTC1 was hit?

8/18/2015 7:08:41 PM Navarro, CA  

srv63
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If you dumb assed deceptive shills are ever interested in the TRUTH on how your puppet masters pulled off the controlled demolition of the twin towers, the video below shows you how. By the way, the video below DEBUNKS your dumb assed nist report and national geographics claims that thermate can't cut diagonally

8/18/2015 7:33:45 PM Navarro, CA  

srv63
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Quote from srv63:
If you dumb assed deceptive shills are ever interested in the TRUTH on how your puppet masters pulled off the controlled demolition of the twin towers, the video below shows you how. By the way, the video below DEBUNKS your dumb assed nist report and national geographics claims that thermate can't cut diagonally


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kscTVnEcPMk

Here's another video about a demolition expert who also says you shills are idiots:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOWWSjol6Ps

It must really suck trying to defend lies.

8/18/2015 7:48:00 PM Navarro, CA  
funwithmusic
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Quote from 57channels:
I almost forgot too------ that burnt up so-called jet fuel toasted all those cars around the WTC, some blocks away also.No.......I think the feds used some new "test" of explosives and basically nuked both towers. But...but Rudy said the "air was okay to breathe " that lying sack of shit. Tell it to the thousands that will die from that crap that were breathing in both towers.


ENGINEER JUDY BROWN suspects that DIRECT ENERGY WEAPONS..AKA THE TOASTED CARS..AND THE PULVERIZATION OF THE CEMENT, DESKS, CHAIRS, COMPUTERS, TABLES, were used at the WTC...which SEEMS to have been professionally demolitioned into their own footprint by THERMITE NUKE weaponry used to destroy the support beams..then finished the buildings off with DIRECT ENERGY WEAPONS.. ALL EVIDENCE WAS QUICKLY REMOVED BY ZIONIST COMPANIES..AND SHIPPED TO CHINA...SHOWING YOU THE ZIONIST JEWS..AND THE CHINESE HAVE A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP...so...this entire incident IN CHINA could be a c*ck and bull story..

REMEMBER...THIS COMMIE RAN GOV WE HAVE TODAY..HAS BEEN TRYING TO GIVE CHINA SOVEREIGN LAND RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE UNITED STATES...along with a PRIVATE AIRPORT FOR THE CHINESE IN THE HEARTLAND OF AMERICA!! THIS IS TOTAL TREASON!.

WHO CONTROLS THE US GOVERNMENT?
thezog.wordpress


Just like JAPAN WAS THE TESTING GROUND FOR NUKES.....THE WTC was the testing ground for other NEW WEAPONRY. - DIRECT ENERGY WEAPONS..Now used on China...

THIS ENTIRE EVENT COULD BE A C*CK AND BULL STORY DESIGNED TO CREATE FEAR IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE...BECAUSE WE HAVE TURNED AGAINST THE JEWISH FEDERAL RESERVE..and the JEWISH REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH NGO...THE IRS...which collects SECRET KOSHER TAXES for the Jewish Rabbis PROVING THE IRS..IS A JEWISH PRIVATE ORG..JUST LIKE THE FED BANK..

VLADIMIR LENIN - ZIONIST JEW- "The best way to control the opposition...IS TO LEAD IT OURSELVES!



WHO CONTROLS THE PENTAGON?
thezog.wordpress



The Pentagon's secret space-based weapons
The "Rod of God" weapon consists primarily of a kinetic weapon


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/050816_Tianjin_explosion_space-based_weapons_military_retaliation.html#ixzz3jDE8VMb0



BOMBSHELL: China and America already at war: Tianjin explosion carried out by Pentagon space weapon in retaliation for Yuan currency devaluation... Military helicopters now patrolling Beijing


(NaturalNews) EXCLUSIVE: Mainland Chinese dissidents have handed Natural News the following bombshell story. (Two minor updates / corrections are now included in this story, see below.)

The Tianjin explosion was waged as an act of "kinetic retaliation" by the Pentagon in response to China's currency war Yuan devaluation, according to dissident sources from mainland China. The Chinese government has put in place unprecedented secrecy surrounding the mysterious explosion, and aggressive police state tactics are now being invoked to control the flow of information surrounding this event.

"Last week's explosions sent massive fireballs into the sky and hurled burning debris across the industrial area at the world's 10th-largest port, burning out buildings and shattering windows kilometres away," reports the Daily Mail UK.

The Chinese government's official explanation for the explosion, which has now killed 114 people, is a complete whitewash. China is going to declare regional martial law in the next 18 days, Natural News has learned, in order to exercise total control over the movement of people and information. The government has banned reporters from entering the area and has begun arresting bloggers who promote what the government calls "conspiracy theories" regarding the cause of the massive explosion.((CONSPIRACY THEORIES CONDEMNED? SEE..SOUNDS MORE AND MORE LIKE WTC 9/11..THE ISRA-HELLI ATTACK ON AMERICAN SOIL...CONSPIRACY THEORIES ARE USUALLY CONSPIRACY FACTS..


China has blacked out reporting on Tianjin in exactly the same way the U.S. media blacked out reporting on Dr. William Thompson, the CDC whistleblower who admitted the CDC buried evidence linking vaccines to autism. In both China and the United States, when the government doesn't want the citizens to know something, it censors the story across the entire state-run media, invoking "information totalitarianism."

Both before and after the massive explosion, the Chinese government has been flying "black helicopters" in formation across Beijing. (Update: Previously, this article stated the helicopters began flying after the explosion, but we have been corrected on this point, as helicopters were witnessed in the sky in the days before the explosion as well.) Chinese dissidents took numerous photos of these helicopters and were able to deliver these exclusive pictures to Natural News:

A warning shot from the United States: Don't crash the dollar or sell our debt
Chinese dissidents have told Natural News they have reason to believe the attack on Tianjin is a warning shot from the United States, which is terrified that China is on the verge of announcing its own gold-backed currency while declaring a fire sale on U.S. debt holdings.

The actions would collapse the U.S. dollar and destroy the U.S. economy, sending the United States into economic freefall. The "Rod of God" weapon deployment by the U.S. Pentagon, we're told, was America's "shot across the bow" to send a powerful warning message to China while disguising the attack as a domestic chemical explosion.

MUSIC: THIS IS ALL FEARMONGERING!! DONT WORRY ..THIS IS PROPAGANDA...AMERICA WOULD BE BETTER WITHOUT THE CENTRAL BANKS...WE CAN PULL AN ANDREW JACKSON ON THEM...Start New Government banks..and RE-VIVE THE US TREASURY making our money instead of the FED..WE WONT MISS A BEAT,...JUST AS IN THE DAYS OF ANDREW JACKSON!!





Timeline of events: China devalues currency, then Pentagon strikes in mere hours
Consider the calendar of events in all this:

August 11, 2015: China devalues the Yuan by 1.9%, sending "shockwaves" around the world and setting off a "devastating" impact to the U.S. economy.

August 12, 2015: Tianjin struck by Pentagon's secret "Rod of God" weapon, a space-based top-secret kinetic weapon that can be dropped from high orbit to strike almost any land-based target.

The weapon instantly destroys six city blocks on the edge of the city of Tianjin, sending a message to China that's eerily similar to the message sent by the United States in the dropping of the world's first atomic weapons on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II. (Yes, (ZIONIST CONTROLLED) the USA is willing to drop weapons of mass destruction on civilian populations. It has already done it twice!)

(For those following the Shemitah, the dropping of atomic bombs on Japan also occurred during a Shemitah year, in the month of august, 1945, exactly 70 years ago. This is precisely TEN Shemitah cycles ago, or what might be called a "deca-Shemitah.")

CONTINUED

8/18/2015 7:52:05 PM Navarro, CA  
funwithmusic
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CONTINUED

August 16, 2015: Obama issues stern warning "...about the presence of Chinese government agents operating secretly in the United States," reports The New York Times. "And it comes at a time of growing tension between Washington and Beijing on a number of issues: from the computer theft of millions of government personnel files that American officials suspect was directed by China, to China's crackdown on civil liberties, to the devaluation of its currency."



=============================================

The Pentagon's secret space-based weapons
The "Rod of God"
weapon consists primarily of a kinetic weapon arriving with unimaginable kinetic energy... more than a small tactical nuclear weapon, in fact, giving it the appearance of a tactical nuke.

U.S. websites are now speculating that the Tianjin explosion was a U.S. space-based weapons test involving a "Rod of God" weapon dropped from orbit. "The [resulting] lake [crater] in China proves a 5 kiloton blast, possibly nuclear or possibly from a space based 'rod from God' (pictured to the left) weapon [was] deployed by the space plane," says The Unhived Mind.



"After looking through the images of the soviet nuclear tests, the new lake in China appears to have been made by a slightly sub surface burst of at least a 5 kiloton nuclear bomb... This was NOT an accident and the fracture pattern around the crater proves a sub ground burst. If it was a sub ground burst, then a small nuclear weapon is the biggest possibility because once a nuke has to push dirt, the blinding flash will not happen. A slightly subsurface detonation would explain why camera sensors did not get strange artifacts. And if it was not a nuke, it was something else incredibly huge, but not a fuel air bomb because fuel air bombs will not leave craters."

Space-based kinetic weapons "dropped" onto targets are explained by Popular Science in this article from 2004:

When instructed from the ground, the targeting satellite commands its partner to drop one of its darts. The guided rods enter the atmosphere, protected by a thermal coating, traveling at 36,000 feet per second--comparable to the speed of a meteor. The result: complete devastation of the target, even if it's buried deep underground.


"When required these projectiles can be commanded to dive, singly or en masse, at targets on the Earth's surface, smashing into the victim at orbital speed. As the projectile's kinetic energy is released, the blast would be equivalent to a large conventional bomb," explains Armaghplanet.com.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/050816_Tianjin_explosion_space-based_weapons_military_retaliation.html#ixzz3jDNaFoaf



MUSIC: go to link for more..I think its just a bunch of propaganda myself.This very easily could be just another FALSE FLAG ATTACK...used to create fear in Americans AS WE HAVE ALREADY TURNED AGAINST THE FEDERAL RESERVE..AND ITS RE-DISTRIBUTING AGENT..THE NGO CALLED ...THE IRS...Which collects taxes for Jewish Rabbis..PROVING its Jewish Roots.


LEARN HOW ANDREW JACKSON KILLED THE BANKS..AND HOW AMERICA FLOWED SMOOTHLY OUT OF THE JEWISH CENTRAL BANKING SYSTEM..BACK INTO A GOVERNMENT BASED BANK..and US TREASURY, .AND AMERICA DIDNT EVEN MISS A BEAT!

TODAYS AMERICA CAN DO THIS JUST AS WELL as we did in ANDREW JACKSONS TIME..SO DONT LET THE MEDIA CONTROLLERS CONTROL YOUR MIND..AND YOUR FEARS..

TRUST GOD..and he will make your paths straight...JEWS ARE NOT GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE..the created that FABLE to deceive you..(TITUS CHAPTER ONE)

===============================================================================

WHO CONTROLS THE MEDIA?
thezog.wordpress


===============================================================================

THEY USE THEIR CONTROL OVER ALLLLLL MEDIA FOR FEARMONGERING...TO HERD THE SHEEPLES.... to make you think destroying this controlling manipulative redistributing of our wealth system..is viable to us..but its not

ITS A GIGANTIC PARASITE..sucking the life out of America and her people..and it needs to be eradicated!

ALL ZIONIST DUAL CITIZEN JEWS MUST BE REMOVED FROM THE AMERICAN POLITICAL SYSTEM...IMMEDIATELY

THEY ARE THE RUSSIAN RED MAFIA that came here from the JEWISH BOLSHEVIK USSR..several decades ago...




====================================================

If ZIONIST JEWS will kill other Jews in German Camps...then we can know they will kill chinese for Jewish Agendas

JEWISH BOLSHEVIK VLADIMIR LENIN : The best way to control the opposition, IS TO LEAD IT OURSELVES..

JEWS CONTROL THE MEDIA...AND HAVE MOVED THEIR CORPORATIONS OUT OF THE USA..TO CHINA..

Jewish media uses FEARMONGERING of the American people to HERD THE SHEEPLES...AS WE HAVE TURNED AGAINST THE FEDERAL RESERVE, HAVE LEARNED THE IRS IS A JEWISH ORGANIZATION "RE-DISTRIBUTING OUR WEALTH" into their pockets.. ROBBING US THROUGH INCOME TAXATION which is against the Constitution...

Also..Americans have learned by the ANDREW JACKSON INCIDENT that we can skillfully leave the JEWISH BANKING SYSTEM..without any problems what so ever..and have learned we would be much better off without these criminals..looters..thieves..

http://www.jewwatch.com/china.html

Israel Epstein, second from right in front, standing in front of Mao. He later became the minister of appropriations, an extremely powerful position in a practically cashless era. To the right of him is another Jew, also under cover as a journalist


Mao in a high-level meeting with several Jews [Frank Coe, Israel Epstein, Elsie Fairfax-Cholmely, and Solomon Adler]



"Rewi Alley," the man who organized communes in China before Chinese even knew they were to be ruled by Jewish communists (in the 1920's, well before 1949)


8/18/2015 8:22:36 PM Navarro, CA  

tragicparrot
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Painesville, OH
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Quote from srv63:
So in other words, you shills think that i should have no opinion on what might have been used to bring the towers down into their own footprints? If that's the case, you paid jews have no right trying to backup the governments bullshit nist report because you shills have no expertise in the fields that we have been discussing either.

The knowledge that i have been absorbing thru researching is what helps me break that chain of ignorance that you scumbag shills hope to bound us by, and instead i'm able to follow my common sense and logic to be able to locate the real truth.

Here's a question for you shills to answer whenever you feel froggy. Explain to us why it is, that the "five dancing israeli's" knew about the twin towers fixing to be hit and were there that day video taping it BEFORE WTC1 was hit?


Unless your an avid mind reader, the fact that you've had no problem sharing your opinion numerous times throughout this thread leaves your first comment pointless. Not that your opinions don't matter much, just that their a far cry from whats necessary to prove 911 was an inside job.

Regarding those five dancing Israeli's, the info provided in the link below (not Youtube) should cover most the questions surrounding your claim the "five dancing Israeli's" had foreknowledge of 911 before it actually occurred...

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Dancing_Israelis

8/18/2015 8:33:20 PM Navarro, CA  

tragicparrot
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Quote from funwithmusic:
ENGINEER JUDY BROWN suspects that DIRECT ENERGY WEAPONS..AKA THE TOASTED CARS..AND THE PULVERIZATION OF THE CEMENT, DESKS, CHAIRS, COMPUTERS, TABLES, were used at the WTC...


Judy Brown? It appears there is no such person as Judy Brown who was an engineer who made this claim. Link please?

8/18/2015 8:50:07 PM Navarro, CA  
funwithmusic
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Quote from tragicparrot:
Judy Brown? It appears there is no such person as Judy Brown who was an engineer who made this claim. Link please?


OPPS..

JUDY WOOD..aN Engineer...who exposed the DIRECT ENERGY WEAPONS..AND THE TOASTED CARS..

.


I forgot to change that...

8/18/2015 8:55:18 PM Navarro, CA  

progrocknic
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Quote from funwithmusic:
OPPS..

JUDY WOOD..aN Engineer...who exposed the DIRECT ENERGY WEAPONS..AND THE TOASTED CARS..

.


I forgot to change that...


Crazy how many crazy conspiracy theorist sit around selling their books and advertising space on websites rather than being active about finding the "truth". The real truth is there's a sucker born every minute.

8/18/2015 9:14:36 PM Navarro, CA  
funwithmusic
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Quote from tragicparrot:
Judy Brown? It appears there is no such person as Judy Brown who was an engineer who made this claim. Link please?



LINK:

http://drjudywood.com/


Where Did the Towers Go?
The Evidence of Directed Free-Energy Technology on 9/11
So, you want a new invistigation of 9/11 and accountability for the coverup of 9/11?
Well, Today's your lucky day !

Many have called for "a new investigation" of 9/11, but we do not need another whitewash! A group of folks, including myself, have not only called for a new investigation of what really happened on 9/11, but have actually done something about it. In addition to a new investigation, we have called for accountability in the coverup of 9/11. Perhaps you'd like to join us.
=========================================================

WHY WERENT THESE CARS SHOWN IN THE TELEVISION NEWS STATIONS? NO ONE EVEN KNEW ABOUT THEM FOR QUITE SOME TIME AFTER 9/11..Why were these photos hidden from the American people?

LINK:
http://drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam5.html



Figure 66. Toasted cars in a lot near the WTC.


Figure 70. What was this thing across the street? Was it a car? Was it a van? What caused that line of burn marks on the hood of the car in the foreground on the right? In the left foreground, the remains of a vehicle sit atop a white sedan. Are we looking at the front or the back end? It looks like the front end and if it is, its engine is missing. We can see daylight through the wheel well.



Figure 67. These fires do not melt or significantly weaken steel.
Source: Century wood stoves


Figure 67k. Kerosene fires do not melt or significantly weaken steel.
Source: Dyna-Glo kerosene heater: website


All-Pro Portable Kerosene Torpedo Heater, heats 29,000 ft.3 building
All-Pro kerosene outdoor construction heaters are for use only with kerosene, No. 1 & 2 diesel fuel oil, JP-8 fuel or Jet A fuel.
165,000 BTU Kerosene Outdoor Torpedo / Salamander Heater


"Reddy Heater," Forced Air Heaters Portable - Kerosene, 40,000 BTUs R40 by Desa International Heating,
Multi fuel use (i.e. Kerosene, Diesel #1 and #2, JP8, and Jet A fuel).
Source: website


Figure 75. Oddly enough, there were also toasted cars at the Pentagon on 9/11.


The Star Wars Beam Weapons
and
Star Wars Directed-Energy Weapons (DEW)
(A focus of the Star Wars Program)

by
Dr. Judy Wood and Dr. Morgan Reynolds
(originally posted: October 17, 2006)

Page 5a: More Toasted Cars
At the time this article was being developed, many people expressed disbelief that energy weapons existed outside of science fiction until they were reminded of the Star Wars Program, also known as the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI)*. The name of this article was chosen as a reminder that energy weapons do exist and have been developed over 100 years. Most of this technology is classified information. It can also be assumed that such technology exists in multiple countries.

The purpose of this article was to begin to identify the evidence of what happened on 9/11/01 that must be accounted for. In doing so, the evidence ruled out a Kinetic Energy Device (bombs, missiles, etc.) as the method of destruction as well as a gravity-driven "collapse."

*SDI was created by U.S. President Ronald Reagan on March 23, 1983.1 It is thought that SDI may have been first dubbed "Star Wars" by opponent Dr. Carol Rosin, a consultant and former spokeswoman for Wernher von Braun. However, Missile Defense Agency (MDA) historians attribute the term to a Washington Post article published March 24, 1983, the day after the Star Wars speech, which quoted Democratic Senator Ted Kennedy describing the proposal as "reckless Star Wars schemes."2 Before it was named the "Star Wars Program (SDI) in 1983, it was the Advanced Space Programs Development.3


8/18/2015 9:15:19 PM Navarro, CA  

tragicparrot
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Quote from progrocknic:
Crazy how many crazy conspiracy theorist sit around selling their books and advertising space on websites rather than being active about finding the "truth". The real truth is there's a sucker born every minute.


This is true. As for Ms Woods, about the only thing her "Direct Energy Weaponry" claim has proved is that she is indeed a real space cadet.

8/18/2015 9:16:50 PM Navarro, CA  
funwithmusic
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Quote from progrocknic:
Crazy how many crazy conspiracy theorist sit around selling their books and advertising space on websites rather than being active about finding the "truth". The real truth is there's a sucker born every minute.


While people like us spend lots of time seeking the truth

Lazy slugs like you spend your time...saying foolish remarks to try to make you not feel so guilty...because you dont care...Your a lazy slug..and its just too much effort..and you would have to use alot of brain matter...to seek the truth..

go back ot your beer...cigs..and your gal pal....Let the mentally mature grownups take care of this..

8/18/2015 9:17:40 PM Navarro, CA  
funwithmusic
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Quote from tragicparrot:
This is true. As for Ms Woods, about the only thing her "Direct Energy Weaponry" claim has proved is that she is indeed a real space cadet.


Only in the minds of mental midgets..


In the eyes of those who seek the truth..she is well respected...

8/18/2015 9:25:32 PM Navarro, CA  

srv63
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Quote from tragicparrot:
Unless your an avid mind reader, the fact that you've had no problem sharing your opinion numerous times throughout this thread leaves your first comment pointless. Not that your opinions don't matter much, just that their a far cry from whats necessary to prove 911 was an inside job.

Regarding those five dancing Israeli's, the info provided in the link below (not Youtube) should cover most the questions surrounding your claim the "five dancing Israeli's" had foreknowledge of 911 before it actually occurred...

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Dancing_Israelis


I read half way thru that spew of bullshit link that you posted and if i didn't know any better, i would say you wrote that bullshit yourself parrot. Either that or one of your fellow shills. This leads me to wonder if you shills have to be schooled together in order to be able to try explaining everything away.Newsflash for ya, you fail.

It's too damn bad that some of new yorks gang bangers didn't catch your brothers on top of that van dancing and celebrating the controlled demolition of the towers, i doubt they would have had a chance of being deported

8/18/2015 9:30:35 PM Navarro, CA  

progrocknic
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Quote from funwithmusic:
While people like us spend lots of time seeking the truth

Lazy slugs like you spend your time...saying foolish remarks to try to make you not feel so guilty...because you dont care...Your a lazy slug..and its just too much effort..and you would have to use alot of brain matter...to seek the truth..

go back ot your beer...cigs..and your gal pal....Let the mentally mature grownups take care of this..


Very grown up comment from you. I don't drink alcohol though.

I have research far longer than you. That's why I'm not a 9/11 truther. You're only willing to research the points you agree with and I take things from all sides objectively. When I didn't, I believed some whacked out theories about 9/11. I also drank like a fish.

I'm hardly lazy. But even my lazy research far surpasses your selective research.



[Edited 8/18/2015 9:33:18 PM ]

8/18/2015 9:32:54 PM Navarro, CA  

progrocknic
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Quote from tragicparrot:
This is true. As for Ms Woods, about the only thing her "Direct Energy Weaponry" claim has proved is that she is indeed a real space cadet.


Obviously no understanding about orbital mechanics. Or friction, or atmospheric influences on orbital vehicles entering the atmosphere, or physics, or scientific law..... But quite the imagination I suppose.

8/19/2015 12:40:59 AM Navarro, CA  

class5
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Quote from 57channels:
Since both towers were pulverized or blown to smithereens with dust all over Manhattan...I think we can assume both towers were mini nuked or micro nuked. But......but you have every sheeples right to think the burnt up jet fuel buckled the beams or melted them.


Seriously Dude, give the drugs a miss, ok?

8/19/2015 12:42:40 AM Navarro, CA  

class5
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Now Fun is back onto that idiot Judy Woods and her moronic space beams.



I think this thread has run its course now.



8/19/2015 12:45:09 AM Navarro, CA  

class5
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Quote from funwithmusic:
While people like us spend lots of time seeking the truth

Lazy slugs like you spend your time...saying foolish remarks to try to make you not feel so guilty...because you dont care...Your a lazy slug..and its just too much effort..and you would have to use alot of brain matter...to seek the truth..

go back ot your beer...cigs..and your gal pal....Let the mentally mature grownups take care of this..




So why do you make so many mistakes? The 747? The 'Nuclear Thermite'?

You know the subject as much as you need to in order to post anti-Semitic bilge, and that is all. Prog knows far more than you people give him credit for, and he's a member of ISF, therefore he has access to all the scientific material that your crank sites (e.g. Veteran's Today) intentionally omit.

I doubt you've even read the reports you denegrate.





[Edited 8/19/2015 12:48:36 AM ]

8/19/2015 12:49:58 AM Navarro, CA  

class5
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Quote from funwithmusic:
Only in the minds of mental midgets..


In the eyes of those who seek the truth..she is well respected...



No, she is a joke even among the more 'serious' truthers, much like the contempt some truthers hold for 'no-planers'.

HAARP weapons and Space Beams!!!! LOLOL Do you seriously swallow that garbage? That just tells me you're ready to swallow any old junk to feed your hate.







[Edited 8/19/2015 12:52:54 AM ]

8/19/2015 1:45:39 AM Navarro, CA  
higgy51
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Quote from srv63:
One big problem with your timeframe shill. Hess and Jennings were not rescued till 1PM but then you already knew that


Then please explain to those laughing their heads off with the knowledge that he was actually being interviewed (Hess) on LIVE tv at 11:57.....please explain to us HOW that was possible if we were to believe you?

You seem to be missing a very serious and factual point, HESS WAS BEING INTERVIEWED ON LIVE TV AT 11:57, so there is no way he and Jennings were not rescued until 1pm.

We await your comment.

8/19/2015 1:49:10 AM Navarro, CA  
higgy51
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Quote from srv63:
Are we gonna act dumb now? Barium means the thermate was military grade but you also already knew that as well


No, actually I didn't know that.

So Barium is ONLY found in Thermate?

Don't forget to answer how Hess was on live TV at 11:57 yet you insist that he and Jennings were still in the WTC 7 until 1pm.

8/19/2015 2:43:30 AM Navarro, CA  

class5
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Quote from higgy51:
No, actually I didn't know that.

So Barium is ONLY found in Thermate?



There are plenty of sources for the traces of Barium discovered in the rubble-the amount of PC's in the building alone could be responsible.

Thermate still could not have been deployed in the WTC owing to the same factors that disqualify thermite/nano-thermite/supercalafragilistic therm*te as a possibility (quantities, logistics and the fact that the flash would have been enormous, etc.).

8/19/2015 2:46:10 AM Navarro, CA  

class5
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Quote from funwithmusic:
Figure 67. These fires do not melt or significantly weaken steel.
Source: Century wood stoves


Figure 67k. Kerosene fires do not melt or significantly weaken steel.
Source: Dyna-Glo kerosene heater: website


All-Pro Portable Kerosene Torpedo Heater, heats 29,000 ft.3 building
All-Pro kerosene outdoor construction heaters are for use only with kerosene, No. 1 & 2 diesel fuel oil, JP-8 fuel or Jet A fuel.
165,000 BTU Kerosene Outdoor Torpedo / Salamander Heater


"Reddy Heater," Forced Air Heaters Portable - Kerosene, 40,000 BTUs R40 by Desa International Heating,
Multi fuel use (i.e. Kerosene, Diesel #1 and #2, JP8, and Jet A fuel).
Source: website


That was retarded for obvious reasons. Do you really need this explained to you?



8/19/2015 4:40:40 AM Navarro, CA  
funwithmusic
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EXPLAIN HOW THESE PHOTOS PREDICTED THE WTC ATTACKS LONG LONG LONG BEFORE THEY EVEN HAPPENED?

These comics....and ads certainly were not made by Islamic terrorist..NO NO..THEY WERE MADE BY JEWISH CONTROLLED MEDIA...

SO HOW DID THE JEWS KNOW THIS EVENT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN? I'll answer that in my next post...


THE ZIONIST JEWS SAY THAT IF THEY FORETELL US WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO TO US THEN THEY WONT HAVE BAD KHARAMA.

NOTICE THE DATES ON SOME OF THESE..WAY BACK IN THE 80'S AND BEFORE..!!

Pakistan Airline Ad 1979



G.I. JOE 1985





1993







WHO BENEFIT FROM THIS ATTACK? NOT THE AMERICANS BY A LONG SHOT

ONLY THE ISRA-HELLIES

ONLY THEY HAD ACCESS TO CREATE SUCH AND EVENT AS WE SAW on 9/11

8/19/2015 4:44:10 AM Navarro, CA  
funwithmusic
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EXPLAIN TO US HOW THESE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION PREDICTED ALL THESE FUTURE EVENTS?


EXCELLENT EXCELLENT SITE!!!!!
http://zioncrimefactory.com/




MUSIC:
THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION PREDICT THE FUTURE..and were supposed to beleive they are fake... Only a total dumbass would believe these writings are fake..as they also coincide with the teachings of the Babylon Talmud...Kabbalah..etc..


What Blakeney, the Jews, and all those who insist the Protocols are fake cannot explain, is how the Protocols accurately predicted the great depression, the Russian Revolution, the first world war and the rise of liberalism; perhaps the ‘Russian agent’ was Nostradamus?

At the sixth Zionist Congress meeting in 1903 Jewish-Zionist leader Max Nordau predicted that there would be a “world war” and that “a free and Jewish Palestine” would be created with England’s assistance. In 1914 World War I began as Nordau had predicted. In 1917 the British government decreed the “Balfour Declaration” promising the Jews a homeland in Palestine, as Nordau predicted they would.

In 1911, twenty-two years before Hitler came to power and three years before World War I began, Nordau made another prediction: 6,000,000 Jews would be annihilated (a prophecy other Zionists had been advancing as well).

In 1979, Isser Harel, the founder and creator of the Israeli Mossad terrorist organization, predicted the 9/11 attacks. Harel told a Christian Zionist evangelist who was visiting him in Israel that “terrorists” would soon strike New York City’s “tallest building” because it was a “phallic symbol.”

What’s more likely: Zionist Jews are psychic clairvoyants or that they simply make all of these these predictions happen? Zionist terrorist leader Vladimir Jabotinsky gave us some insight into that question; Jabotinsky, exulting in the power of his people, stated: “There is only one power which really counts. The power of political pressure. We Jews are the most powerful people on earth, because we have this power, and we know how to apply it.”

In the case of the holocaust the Zionists simply made the propaganda fit the prophecy. There assuredly was no holocaust of “6,000,000 Jews”–not in 1906, 1919, 1921 or in the 1940’s either.


In 1979, Isser Harel, the founder and creator of the Israeli Mossad terrorist organization, predicted the 9/11 attacks. Harel told a Christian Zionist evangelist who was visiting him in Israel that “terrorists” would soon strike New York City’s “tallest building” because it was a “phallic symbol.”

What’s more likely: Zionist Jews are psychic clairvoyants or that they simply make all of these these predictions happen?



HHHmm...since this Jew predicted the WTC attacks way back in 1979....one would have to know that the Jews had something to do with the ATTACKS ON THE WTC ON 9/11...not Arabs..


GOTCHA..WHAT CAN YOU SAY NOW..CEPT...THAT WERE RIGHT..YOUR WRONG..THATS THE END OF THE STORY...

Hows that crow tasting?



[Edited 8/19/2015 4:46:43 AM ]

8/19/2015 9:37:26 AM Navarro, CA  

srv63
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Quote from higgy51:
No, actually I didn't know that.

So Barium is ONLY found in Thermate?

Don't forget to answer how Hess was on live TV at 11:57 yet you insist that he and Jennings were still in the WTC 7 until 1pm.


Do you have proof that Hess gave that interview at noon on 9/11? I didn't think so,and why is it the time indicator is not present at the bottom of the screen during that interview if it is being filmed live like all other live broadcasts? Because it would prove that the interview was really after 1pm

8/19/2015 10:04:23 AM Navarro, CA  

srv63
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Quote from class5:
There are plenty of sources for the traces of Barium discovered in the rubble-the amount of PC's in the building alone could be responsible.

Thermate still could not have been deployed in the WTC owing to the same factors that disqualify thermite/nano-thermite/supercalafragilistic therm*te as a possibility (quantities, logistics and the fact that the flash would have been enormous, etc.).


Actually there were witnesses that stated seeing super bright whit flashes inside of the towers. I really wish that you shills would back off with the deceptive practices trying to make it seem like square cubic yards of thermate would be needed to melt thru a single main column in the center of each skyscraper and you shills trying to suggest that thermate would have to be packed around the outside of each main column.FACT is that ALL of the main center columns in each tower had access holes in them giving access to the inside of each main column. Thermate could have easily been dumped inside or even sprayed inside them columns therefore concentrating the full cutting strength of the thermite and the heat onto the main columns. That would fully explain how the large concentration of molten steel was vastly at where the main columns once were..

8/19/2015 12:29:54 PM Navarro, CA  

57channels
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Fun


At the sixth Zionist Congress meeting in 1903 Jewish-Zionist leader Max Nordau predicted that there would be a “world war” and that “a free and Jewish Palestine” would be created with England’s assistance. In 1914 World War I began as Nordau had predicted. In 1917 the British government decreed the “Balfour Declaration” promising the Jews a homeland in Palestine, as Nordau predicted they would.
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I know the German Jews [who ran the banks and media in Germany] made a deal with England to make sure Germany lost WW1--- so the fkn Jews could get their own little state later on in 1948 [Israel] but never knew that in 1903 some Jewish scumbag would predict it-- knowing full well it was gonna happen. Thanks for the update

8/19/2015 12:40:39 PM Navarro, CA  

57channels
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Fun


WHY WERENT THESE CARS SHOWN IN THE TELEVISION NEWS STATIONS? NO ONE EVEN KNEW ABOUT THEM FOR QUITE SOME TIME AFTER 9/11..Why were these photos hidden from the American people?

LINK:
http://drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam5.html
====================================================================
If those photos are real and those cars were really toasted on 9-11....then the only logical assumption would be that some new high energy weapon of some sort had to have been used on 9-11. Something that most likely has never been used before that people have seen or witnessed. Maybe they tested the thing on some remote island or in Area 51--- but some kind of Direct Energy weaponry must have been used IMO. The 2 big towers were micro nuked with all kinds of explosions going on before, during and after the missile hit each prepositioned spot on each big tower.

8/19/2015 3:04:35 PM Navarro, CA  
higgy51
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Quote from srv63:
Do you have proof that Hess gave that interview at noon on 9/11? I didn't think so,and why is it the time indicator is not present at the bottom of the screen during that interview if it is being filmed live like all other live broadcasts? Because it would prove that the interview was really after 1pm

Hess had made this statement while being interviewed by Frank Ucciardo of UPN 9 News "on Broadway about a block from City Hall," which was several blocks from WTC 7. This interview began before noon.

As to the exact time, it has been believed that it began at 11:34. This belief has been based on the fact that, according to writing on a DVD containing UPN 9 programs from that morning, the programs contained on the video had begun at 10:37 AM. The Hess interview begins at the 57-minute mark, which would have been 11:34.

Further research, however, showed that the video actually started at 11:00. The crucial evidence is that, at the 111-minute mark, the UPN 9 program switched to live CNN coverage of a Taliban news conference, which began at 12:51,[3] and 111 minutes prior to 12:51 would be 11:00. The Hess interview, as we saw, began at the 57-minute mark, so it began at 11:57.

In any case, UPN 9's interview of Hess began before noon.



http://www.wanttoknow.info/008/hessjenningswtc7explosiontvbroadcast

I have obtained a copy of the live footage broadcast by UPN 9 News, WWOR-TV, on 9/11, and it reveals that Michael Hess, along with Barry Jennings, seem to have been out of the building much earlier than NIST stated in their June 2004 Progress Report. In NIST's report, it places the two individuals' rescue between 12:10 and 12:15, but as can be seen in the video, which I have not the means to upload right now, places he and Mr. Jennings out by around 11:30, because he is speaking live on the news (via telephone with a reporter), at 11:34. The video starts at 10:37, and Michael Hess appears 57 minutes into it. The interviewing reporter, Frank Ucciardo, appears several seconds before. We can further estimate how long Michael Hess had been out of the building by reasoning that he was interviewed "on Broadway about a block from city hall", which puts him near the intersection of Broadway and Chambers Street. On Yahoo maps, the shortest route from what used to be the north face of WTC 7 on Barclay to that intersection is four-tenths of a mile. It seems reasonable to assume that it took no less than five minutes (and probably significantly longer) for Mr. Hess to get to where he was interviewed, assuming he went straight there and practically ran. That is certainly debatable, of course, but I believe five minutes to travel to the location is an exceptionally conservative estimate.

http://911blogger.com/news/2007-08-05/upn-news-footage-puts-michael-hess-out-wtc-7-approximately-1130

And the coup de gras...from a Conspiracy Website, so srv, you need to read this..

Hess made this statement while being interviewed by Frank Ucciardo of UPN 9 News “on Broadway about a block from City Hall,” almost a half mile from WTC 7. This interview began before noon, most likely at 11:34. The conclusion that it began at 11:34 is based on evidence derived from a DVD containing UPN 9 programs from that morning, in which the Hess interview begins at the 57-minute mark. According to a note on the DVD itself, its video began at 10:37 AM, which would mean that the Hess interview began at 11:34. It is possible, however, that the video might have actually started at 11:00: At the 111-minute mark, the UPN 9 program switched to live coverage by CNN of a Taliban news conference, and the only reference we have been able to find to this coverage indicates that it began at 12:51.3 This would mean that the video began at 11:00 and the Hess interview, therefore, at 11:57. Nevertheless, whether the earlier or the later starting time is correct, UPN 9 News began interviewing Michael Hess before noon.

http://www.911truth.org/the-911-interview-with-michael-hess-evidence-that-nist-lied-about-when-he-and-barry-jennings-were-rescued/

REMEMBER SRV, TYHE WEBSITE IS A CONSPIRACY WEBSITE AND THEIR SOLE AIM WAS TO MAKE FUN OF THE NIST REPORT, BUT THEY HAVE DEBUNKED YOUR CLAIM, 100% DEBUNKED.

8/19/2015 5:56:21 PM Navarro, CA  

57channels
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cl-ASS

I think this thread has run its course now.

====================================================
Good, take care now...see ya...adios

8/19/2015 6:59:00 PM Navarro, CA  

longbobby
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No_cl-ASS
I think this thread has run its course now.
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Yes, and the general consensus is that the government of Israel did 911 in conjunction with certain Neo Cons in the Bush Administration; the jewish owned media scapegoated Muslims (specifically those living in Afghanistan and Iraq); for what was done to America by Israel & Neo Con kikes; the jewish owned media used CGI trickery in it's so called " LIVE news reports" to fool America & the jewish community at large is still covering up that crime against America 14 years later after the fact....fooling absolutely no one.



[Edited 8/19/2015 7:00:01 PM ]

8/19/2015 7:11:45 PM Navarro, CA  

naprinciple
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One must ask themselves: If 911 truth is really absurd nonsense, why spend so much time attacking people who espouse those views?

8/19/2015 7:37:16 PM Navarro, CA  

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How about those Secret Service agents who picked up D*ck Cheney and carried the f**king traitor down to the lower level of the White House........while some other Secret Service agents never grabbed the President and put him on AF1 immediately and bussed the kids and teachers to a safe location???

I guess mastertraitor Cheney told the SS you better carry me down to the lower level to make it look good....you know like some plane is heading towards the White House!!

I wonder if Cheney was hoping some crazy loon would actually hijack a plane some how and slam it into Booker school..........knowing he would become POTUS??? After all poppy Bush tried to have Reagen killed. LBJ had JFK killed.

8/19/2015 8:37:22 PM Navarro, CA  

srv63
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@ higgy,

Sorry but i believe your info and sources are wrong on when Jennings and the wimp hess were rescued from WTC7. I will research it and get back to you with the proof.

8/19/2015 8:41:22 PM Navarro, CA  

progrocknic
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Quote from naprinciple:
One must ask themselves: If 911 truth is really absurd nonsense, why spend so much time attacking people who espouse those views?


I don't attack because people question the government. They could have very well been involved heavily in what happened. I just get pissed off by those who invalidate that claim by bringing up lies and manipulations like controlled demolitions and missiles. Use the facts to support the idea that our incredibly corrupt government pulled this off. Don't create "facts" to support that view. It just tarnished the legitimacy of what could be a very real conspiracy.



[Edited 8/19/2015 8:41:48 PM ]

8/19/2015 8:47:21 PM Navarro, CA  

naprinciple
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Quote from progrocknic:
I don't attack because people question the government. They could have very well been involved heavily in what happened. I just get pissed off by those who invalidate that claim by bringing up lies and manipulations like controlled demolitions and missiles. Use the facts to support the idea that our incredibly corrupt government pulled this off. Don't create "facts" to support that view. It just tarnished the legitimacy of what could be a very real conspiracy.




Ever see me posit that I know what happened on 911?


I don't, and I'm attacked all the time, Just for pointing out inconsistencies in the government's narrative.(



The truth is, I don't know what happened, and I don't pretend to

8/19/2015 8:54:37 PM Navarro, CA  

progrocknic
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Quote from naprinciple:
Ever see me posit that I know what happened on 911?


I don't, and I'm attacked all the time, Just for pointing out inconsistencies in the government's narrative.(



The truth is, I don't know what happened, and I don't pretend to


I don't know all the details, but I do know some of the facts. Four planes went down. Two hit the towers. One hit the Pentagon. The other crashed in PA. Those are facts. The buildings came down as a result of massive damage and the stress of fires that burned uncontrolled for a long period of time. People on all those planes died. Those are the facts. I might be missing a few but you get the point.

Now as far as government involvement? They could have very easily hired pilots to be terrorists. It still required the whole backstory behing their coming over the border and going to flight school, but still. If the government was going to do something f**ked up, the would choose the most cost effective, involving as few people as possible, and doing it as simple as possible to avoid suspicion. Hire people to be terrorists. But no one ever entertains that. I've seen more support for energy weapons that don't exist than I have for the simple hiring of people to play terrorists.

8/19/2015 9:04:17 PM Navarro, CA  

naprinciple
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Quote from progrocknic:
I don't know all the details, but I do know some of the facts. Four planes went down. Two hit the towers. One hit the Pentagon. The other crashed in PA. Those are facts. The buildings came down as a result of massive damage and the stress of fires that burned uncontrolled for a long period of time. People on all those planes died. Those are the facts. I might be missing a few but you get the point.

Now as far as government involvement? They could have very easily hired pilots to be terrorists. It still required the whole backstory behing their coming over the border and going to flight school, but still. If the government was going to do something f**ked up, the would choose the most cost effective, involving as few people as possible, and doing it as simple as possible to avoid suspicion. Hire people to be terrorists. But no one ever entertains that. I've seen more support for energy weapons that don't exist than I have for the simple hiring of people to play terrorists.




I don't pretend I know any of those things are true

8/19/2015 9:07:36 PM Navarro, CA  

longbobby
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Quote from naprinciple:
I don't pretend I know any of those things are true
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Last year yasureoktoo was feeding deepriverman lines to post in 911 threads. This year he is using progroknic as his ventriloquists dummy.

8/19/2015 9:07:47 PM Navarro, CA  

progrocknic
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Quote from naprinciple:
I don't pretend I know any of those things are true


Then you also must not believe the earth is round.

I don't know what to tell you. That's what the evidence says.

But still, I don't know why conspiracy theorists don't go for more simple answers that involve things like logic.

8/19/2015 9:16:25 PM Navarro, CA  

naprinciple
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Quote from progrocknic:
Then you also must not believe the earth is round.

I don't know what to tell you. That's what the evidence says.

But still, I don't know why conspiracy theorists don't go for more simple answers that involve things like logic.




Is it logical to believe 767's and 757's can fly around 500mph at or near sea level? How many inconsistencies does it take before you'll question the entire narrative?

8/19/2015 9:18:26 PM Navarro, CA  

longbobby
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You might be a Stupid American Sheeple if.....

You think 19 wily Arabs defeated the most protected air space in the entire world from a cave in Afghanistan and did the terrorist attack on the United States on September 11, 2001.

[Hint: it was all about the Trans Afghanistan Pipeline (‘TAP”) that the USA has conspired to take over since the fall of the USSR in September 1991. USA lost; DC does not want the Sheeple to wake up to that fact yet because they then have to explain ‘war crimes’ and blowing trillions of dollars based on nothing but DC lies.

Oh, lest I forget, the thousands of US soldier lives ended or ruined based on a lie, and the millions they were sent to kill based on lies, lies and more lies.]

8/19/2015 9:20:48 PM Navarro, CA  
aposorichie
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BS loin booper..19 terrorists did 9/11.

8/19/2015 9:25:49 PM Navarro, CA  

progrocknic
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Quote from naprinciple:
Is it logical to believe 767's and 757's can fly around 500mph at or near sea level? How many inconsistencies does it take before you'll question the entire narrative?


Of course it's logical. That speed the craft was flying. Entirely possible. If you don't know that, I suggesting doing some reading on 767-200's.

8/19/2015 9:29:23 PM Navarro, CA  

naprinciple
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Quote from aposorichie:
BS loin booper..19 terrorists did 9/11.





Another Nineteen - Kevin Ryan on the Legitimate 9/11 Suspects
https://youtu.be/aKxhLpI_A2k


Published on Sep 12, 2013

On the 12th anniversary of 9/11, the 9/11 truth movement seems as far away as ever from bringing any of the actual perpetrators of those attacks to justice. Now, investigators like Kevin Ryan are beginning to piece together the story and identify the prime suspects in any real criminal investigation of September 11th. Find out more about Kevin Ryan's research in this week's GRTV Feature Interview.

8/19/2015 9:31:57 PM Navarro, CA  

naprinciple
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Quote from progrocknic:
Of course it's logical. That speed the craft was flying. Entirely possible. If you don't know that, I suggesting doing some reading on 767-200's.




Why do you believe a 767-200 can go 500 mph at or near sea level?

8/19/2015 9:34:35 PM Navarro, CA  

longbobby
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Quote from aposorichie aka rem762700:
BS loin booper..19 terrorists did 9/11.
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You're half right; 19 (& more) Israeli terrorists did 911.

8/19/2015 9:37:00 PM Navarro, CA  

progrocknic
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Quote from naprinciple:
Why do you believe a 767-200 can go 500 mph at or near sea level?


Because the speed of sound is approximately 761 mph. The maximum rating from the manufacture for stress limits on the 767-200 is mach .83. So 761mph (mach 1) multiplied by the max mach rating for structural integrity of mach .83 equals a max speed at sea level of 631.63mph.

Why would you think otherwise?

8/19/2015 9:40:23 PM Navarro, CA  

srv63
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Quote from aposorichie:
BS loin booper..19 terrorists did 9/11.


Your gonna have to settle for 11 of your hijackers dumb a** because haven't you heard, 8 of the hijackers changed their minds and didn't want to be allah's chosen virgins and are instead alive and well in Saudi Arabia and waiting on the goons in our government to give them their passports and other ID's back

8/19/2015 9:45:40 PM Navarro, CA  

tragicparrot
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Quote from naprinciple:
Is it logical to believe 767's and 757's can fly around 500mph at or near sea level? How many inconsistencies does it take before you'll question the entire narrative?


The Mach number limit on the 767 is an aerodynamic limit, not a structural one. Above that Mach Number the shock waves that would have begun to form over the wing would have began to affect lift and stall the wing, which is called a high speed stall. This happens at any altitude that Mach 0.86 can be achieved in a 767 because it is purely dependent on the design of the aircraft and the wing in particular. A 747, which has a different designed wing has a MMO of M0.92 360 knots IAS is an envelope limit. The aircraft will not break up necessarily if you exceed it, but it has been assessed as the maximum speed needed for normal operations and has been cleared by Boeing test pilots for all those normal operations. Difficult to say what IAS will result in a breakup, but it is a theoretical limit that would no doubt be far above 360 Knots. The Mach number that Flight 175 achieved at 513 knots at approx 1000 feet was about M0.78, so it was below the aerodynamic limit of M0.86 making the 500mph impact speed entirely possible.

8/19/2015 9:45:51 PM Navarro, CA  

naprinciple
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Quote from progrocknic:
Because the speed of sound is approximately 761 mph. The maximum rating from the manufacture for stress limits on the 767-200 is mach .83. So 761mph (mach 1) multiplied by the max mach rating for structural integrity of mach .83 equals a max speed at sea level of 631.63mph.

Why would you think otherwise?




Call To Boeing - 767 Speed - World Trade Center
https://youtu.be/9ZHamfG1aII

8/19/2015 9:47:12 PM Navarro, CA  

progrocknic
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Quote from naprinciple:
Call To Boeing - 767 Speed - World Trade Center
https://youtu.be/9ZHamfG1aII


.86. My bad.


http://911blogger.com/node/20232



[Edited 8/19/2015 9:48:28 PM ]



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