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9/13/2015 5:12:59 AM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  
funwithmusic
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Quote from class5:
Do you seriously believe that the entry point of the aircraft was 12 foot wide?



I think you're confused with the exit hole:



Deja vu....

The photos you have posted..ARE NEW...NEVER SEEN THEM BEFORE...There is alot of NEW STUFF being created then posted..to try to support the KOL NIDRE lies about WTC in the Jewish controlled media...

SHAME ON YOU YOU LIARS..!




==========================================================
I already pposted a video...of a witness who worked inside the Pentagon...on the day of the attacks.


DONT YOUR REMEMBER? OR DID YOU CONVENIENTLY FORGET!


THE WOMAN..SAID THERE WAS NO PLANE....


HERE IT IS AGAIN..MAYBE THIS TIME..YOU WILL ACTUALLY WATCH IT..AND SEE FOR YOURSELF..



Pentagon Employee Witness Says There Was No Plane on 9-11-2001!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIy9hjB3DGk



SHE SAID THERE WAS NO PLANE...NO LUGGAGE...NO AIRPLANE SEATS...NOT JET FUEL ON ANYTHING..NOTHING ON THE INSIDE OF THE PENTAGON THAT WOULD GIVE EVIDENCE THAT A PLANE HIT THE BUILDING

SHE SAID THAT NO ONE ELSE SAW ANY EVIDENCE OF A PLANE HITTING THE PENTAGON..


GIVE IT UP....THERE WAS NO PLANE..





SHES SUING...BECAUSE SHE WAS ALMOST KILLED IN A PLOT TO COVER UP THE INVESTIGATIONS OF CRIMES COMMITTED BY RABBI DOV ZACKHEIM...



OH YEA..BY THE WAY ...MENTAL MIDGET..EVERYTHING I SAY...IS RELEVANT...and dont you forget it..


There will be a GRAND JURY TRIAL AND A CLASS ACTION SUIT..to expose the LIES ON JEWISH CONTROLLED MEDIA..

She tells you that the story you were told.....IS A FABRICATION...


Some of you have no conscience what so ever!

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9/13/2015 5:20:24 AM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

class5
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Quote from funwithmusic:
The photos you have posted..ARE NEW...NEVER SEEN THEM BEFORE...There is alot of NEW STUFF being created then posted...


No, these have been around for some time. Are you aware that the façade collapsed later in the day? See the pic in your own OP. That is after the pic I posted.

It is a common mistake because a prominent truther site confused the exit pic with the entry pic. Despite being notified, they refused to remove it.

In addition, these pics have been posted previously in this thread in response to you making the very same claim.

Nothing of any merit in the rest of your post, so I'll leave that.

9/13/2015 5:31:02 AM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  
funwithmusic
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Quote from class5:
I don't think he understands the risk behind his hypothesis. If large core beams were cut prior to the collapse we must assume that this duty was performed in front of witnesses, as large buildings like the WTC complex are never really 'empty'. No such witnesses have come forth. In addition, the risk of the plan being exposed would be too great as the building would have the potential to fail at any time after this weakening phase.

MUSIC:

My God man..your so gullible..so willing to be a dupe for the enemies of this nation!


People who worked in WTC BEFORE ITS DESTRUCTION said there were floors that were off limits...during those last months before WTC 9/11...

They claimed they heard noises coming from those CLOSED FLOORS...sounds such as some type of construction..(or de-construction)


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CLASS
He simply cannot demonstrate that the cut in question was NOT made by the clean up crews as was reported.

MUSIC:
Nice try..but IT WAS AN OBVIOUS CONTROLLED DEMOLITION...THE SLANTED CUT ON THE BEAMS..WERE TYPICAL OF A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.

Even a 5th grader knows this..


==================================================================
CLASS
There is one big hole in the logic here too. The destruction of 7WTC by CD would have required the certainty of the building being struck by flaming debris from the collapse of 1WTC.

One could not ensure such a result.

MUSIC...
OMG man...do you really believe what you write?


A SMART TERRORIST..WOULD WIRE IN A SOURCE OF FIRE...TO PERPETUATE THE LIES OF WTC...THERE WERE REPORTS OF BOMBS GOING ON IN BUILDING #7..THE SOLOMON BUILDING AS WELL..




WTC WAS A MASS CONTROLLED DEMOLITION:

1)...TO GET RID OF ASBESTOS CONDEMNED BUILDINGS and have them hauled away at TAX PAYERS EXPENSE? BRILLIANT..HUH! THOSE JEWS SURE KNOW HOW TO SAVE A BUCK..AND MAKE A BUCK!

2)...FOR SILVERSTEIN TO MAKE MASSIVE INSURANCE BUCKS

3)...TO MAKE WAR WITH THE MIDDLE EAST

4)...TO DESTROY THE MANY INVESTIGATIONS GOING ON IN BUILDING #7...AND THE PENTAGON..AGAINST ISRA-HELLIS SUCH AS THE BAD RABBI..DOV ZACKHEIM....who has not spent one day in jail..because in America....JEWS DONT GET PUNISHED FOR THEIR CRIMES...IN THE JEWDICIAL JUST-US SYSTEM we have today AS PER THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION which ordered the Jews to infiltrate the JUSTICE SYSTEM...WITH JEWISH LAWYERS..AND JUDGES..and its obvious this has happened

5)...AND PROBABLY TO GET RID OF 'INCONVENIENT PEOPLE' such as Mrs Olson..and others.





DO YOU PEOPLE EVEN REALIZE THAT YOUR SUPREME COURT IS 1/2 JEWISH, 1/2 CATHOLIC.. leaving one justice as a swing voter, AS PER THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION?

MANY JEWS PRETEND TO BE CATHOLICS...FOR ALL WE KNOW..THE SO CALLED CATHOLICS OF THE SUPREME COURT..

ARE JUST CRYPTO MARRANO JEWS....pretending to be Catholic...after all..they sure are getting away with all kinds of UN AMERICAN ACTIVITIES.


AMERICA SHOULD HAVE PAID ATTENTION TO JOE MC CARTHY...HE WAS RIGHT..THE GOV WAS INFESTED WITH CANCEROUS COMMUNISTS...A DISEASE THAT COUNTRIES CATCH..Unless you CARVE OUT (EXPEL) THE CANCER...then the disease will become TERMINAL




[Edited 9/13/2015 5:32:06 AM ]

9/13/2015 5:42:13 AM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

class5
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Queensland
Australia
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Quote from funwithmusic:

My God man..your so gullible..so willing to be a dupe for the enemies of this nation!


People who worked in WTC BEFORE ITS DESTRUCTION said there were floors that were off limits...during those last months before WTC 9/11...

They claimed they heard noises coming from those CLOSED FLOORS...sounds such as some type of construction..(or de-construction)


So what? Floors are being renovated all the time in large buildings. The point you completely missed is that if the building was pre-weakened it was vulnerable to collapse ahead of schedule, thus risking exposure of the plan.


Nice try..but IT WAS AN OBVIOUS CONTROLLED DEMOLITION...THE SLANTED CUT ON THE BEAMS..WERE TYPICAL OF A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.

Even a 5th grader knows this..


That was a weak and pathetic response, and fallacious owing to my earlier point. The cut was made by the clean up crews and you can't prove otherwise. You don't even know why you said it was obviously indicative of a CD. You just parroted such.



A SMART TERRORIST..WOULD WIRE IN A SOURCE OF FIRE...TO PERPETUATE THE LIES OF WTC...THERE WERE REPORTS OF BOMBS GOING ON IN BUILDING #7..THE SOLOMON BUILDING AS WELL..


That in no way ensures that 7WTC would be struck by 1WTC, and there is no evidence for the use of directional charges in the collapse of the tower.

Your responses are a little erratic, and I don't think you are fully grasping my point.



[Edited 9/13/2015 5:43:42 AM ]

9/13/2015 8:51:31 AM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

srv63
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Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from tragicparrot:
Whats extremely unappealing here is that not a one of you's have ever offered evidence lending support to the reasons of why it is you repeatedly ask the same old questions.

Since you insist on being on the opposite side of the aisle with the idiots in government that pulled this treasonous act off without covering their tracks worth a shit,your gonna keep getting these questions until you finally come up with answers that fit. So far, all of you shills answers have quite honestly, failed pretty miserably.

Your evidence of a missile? A missile, wouldn't it figure, plastered with photo shopped emblems of United Airlines.

I don't have a solid opinion yet on missiles hitting the twin towers but i would bet everything i own that a missile was used on the pentacon. I'm absolutely certain of it.

Your evidence of explosives?

Explosives were undeniably used on WTC1,WTC2,WTC7 and most likely the pentacon.Many eyewitnesses testimony including Barry Jennings as well as explosives clearly heard in the videos

A concocted report created by none other than truther's who's interest couldn't be farther than the actual truth. Add a shitload of conjecture, and there you have it. Reason enough to not only avoid what evidence there actually is, but also reason enough to utilize a one sided approach whereas only you get to ask the questions here, not answer them.

So truthers concocted reports? I'm unaware of any.All i have seen are where truthers take all of the facts and try to piece them together the best they can to where the puzzle makes sense but atleast they are trying.The god damn government investigated NOTHING and did nothing but SUPPRESS evidence.And tell me, what "interest" do us truthers have in this murderous,treasonous act that the government pulled off? What do we gain by exposing the huge holes in the governments official story of 9/11? The only f**kin thing we want is accountability and the guilty brought to justice because it's a FACT scumbags in government were involved

So, perhaps there is evidence, though you've yet show any here. But then, even if there was, who cares right? Widespread opinion =/= truth value. That is an appeal to popularity fallacy. Something truthers seem to have down to a perfection.

There is a shitload of evidence proving your nist report to be bullshit and you know it.Mountains of evidence and eyewitness accounts as well as live videos proving explosives were used,thermite/thermate was used to melt the main columns of the buildings,missiles were used on the pentacon as well as at shanksville, and the list goes on and on and on. Face it, your job as paid shill in covering up all of the sloppy handwork of your employer is an impossible feet and it clearly shows in the outcome of the beatings you shills been taking in these forums. Next time you agree to be a paid shill, make sure your employer doesn't send you to the racetrack with a jackass to compete with thoroughbreds


9/13/2015 9:05:53 AM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

progrocknic
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Mount Arlington, NJ
31, joined Dec. 2012


Quote from class5:
No, these have been around for some time. Are you aware that the façade collapsed later in the day? See the pic in your own OP. That is after the pic I posted.

It is a common mistake because a prominent truther site confused the exit pic with the entry pic. Despite being notified, they refused to remove it.

In addition, these pics have been posted previously in this thread in response to you making the very same claim.

Nothing of any merit in the rest of your post, so I'll leave that.


The facts that this insane a** clown thinks those photos are new just exemplifies the lack of research on her part.

9/13/2015 9:46:16 AM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

naprinciple
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Quote from class5:
No. That was pretty low. Please try to focus on the topic.





You had claimed earlier that there was no evidence for government agents infiltrating social media, except on "Conspiracy sites". Is that still your position?? Did you read the White Paper I linked?

9/13/2015 9:48:51 AM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

srv63
Over 2,000 Posts (2,312)
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from higgy51:
Read the question nagain Mr Angry, I said can you prove they weren't and CUT BY SOMEONE ELSE.

Uou answered the first part, but onece again, skipped the latter part.

PROVE that they were cut by the "explosive" people or those government workers that cut them BEFORE the "explosions" to make sure that they collapsed...as in an inside job.

You can't can you Mr Angry?


Did you not pay attention to the photo that bobby uploaded for me where i highlighted the 4 areas in yellow that clearly show where that one column was NOT CUT. Not cut as in the same exact sense as when felling a tree to where the one cutting has control over the object being cut to get it to fall when and how they like. The 4 areas of that column NOT CUT were done so as to allow the force of the building coming down from above to cause that columns upper section to fold inwards therefore snapping off the uncut portions of that diagonal cut thru the column therefore causing that column to not hinder the downward force of the section of building above.Therefore PROVING controlled demolition had a hand in the collapse of both towers.Pay attention higgy

9/13/2015 12:51:05 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

longbobby
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Israeli Art Students Inside WTC ~ The B-Thing

US arrests 200 young Israelis in spying investigation



What kind of ART project could these Israeli's be up to?


As hard as this might be to believe a group of foreign
art students NOT U.S. Citizens managed to get temporary construction ID for the entire WTC complex.

While there,they removed a window and extended a wooden balcony while their "sponsor" was in the Millenium Hotel taking photos, he also hired a helicopter to document the event.

Thousands of electronic fuse holders used to blow up buildings shown in these pictures from the World Trade Center! These “art students” have been tied to Mossad explosive experts and took over and lived on the 91st floor! They were given construction passes to have full access to the building! This is smoking gun proof right here because there was not ANY rewiring being done on the building nor were these “art students” cleared to do electrical rewiring in the building!


Notice the BB-18 number for those fuse holders?




Once a copy of this pass is in hand, one can be
reproduced, a simple project for an artist.

http://www.methodicaldeception.com/resource2.html



9/13/2015 2:26:06 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  
higgy51
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Navarro, CA
61, joined Nov. 2012


Quote from srv63:
Did you not pay attention to the photo that bobby uploaded for me where i highlighted the 4 areas in yellow that clearly show where that one column was NOT CUT. Not cut as in the same exact sense as when felling a tree to where the one cutting has control over the object being cut to get it to fall when and how they like. The 4 areas of that column NOT CUT were done so as to allow the force of the building coming down from above to cause that columns upper section to fold inwards therefore snapping off the uncut portions of that diagonal cut thru the column therefore causing that column to not hinder the downward force of the section of building above.Therefore PROVING controlled demolition had a hand in the collapse of both towers.Pay attention higgy


No, I did not see it and wnat to know why? Becuse his anti jew a** is blocked.

Why don't you post it yourself?

However, you have still FAILED to answer:

"PROVE that they were cut by the "explosive" people or those government workers that cut them BEFORE the "explosions" to make sure that they collapsed...as in an inside job"

Prove it was an inside job. Prove that they were cut prior to the planes hitting the towers.

When were they cut by those on the inside?

You can't.

9/13/2015 3:25:01 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

57channels
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Fun



WTC WAS A MASS CONTROLLED DEMOLITION:

1)...TO GET RID OF ASBESTOS CONDEMNED BUILDINGS and have them hauled away at TAX PAYERS EXPENSE? BRILLIANT..HUH! THOSE JEWS SURE KNOW HOW TO SAVE A BUCK..AND MAKE A BUCK!

2)...FOR SILVERSTEIN TO MAKE MASSIVE INSURANCE BUCKS

3)...TO MAKE WAR WITH THE MIDDLE EAST

4)...TO DESTROY THE MANY INVESTIGATIONS GOING ON IN BUILDING #7...AND THE PENTAGON..AGAINST ISRA-HELLIS SUCH AS THE BAD RABBI..DOV ZACKHEIM....who has not spent one day in jail..because in America....JEWS DONT GET PUNISHED FOR THEIR CRIMES...IN THE JEWDICIAL JUST-US SYSTEM we have today AS PER THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION which ordered the Jews to infiltrate the JUSTICE SYSTEM...WITH JEWISH LAWYERS..AND JUDGES..and its obvious this has happened

5)...AND PROBABLY TO GET RID OF 'INCONVENIENT PEOPLE' such as Mrs Olson..and others.
==============================================================
All 5 points that you have made are true. Anyone not biased in anyway knows they are true -- if they have done the research and have common sense. I personally think the 2 big towers were mini nuked or micro nuked......not a typical controlled demo job like WTC #7. Your points are very valid.

We could show someone on video hitting detonator buttons and the towers getting blown to smithereens.......and the 3 1/2 kiddies would still claim the burnt out fires melted the steel columns after the tin can [ alleged planes ] landed inside each tower and then all the smoke & fire.

9/13/2015 4:08:57 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  
juma2112
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Quote from 57channels:


We could show someone on video hitting detonator buttons and the towers getting blown to smithereens.......and the 3 1/2 kiddies would still claim the burnt out fires melted the steel columns after the tin can [ alleged planes ] landed inside each tower and then all the smoke & fire.


I hear ya 57.
Like some people can see footage of Nazi atrocities, read eyewitness accounts, from both inmates, and Nazi GERMAN guards, read the words of high ranking Nazi GERMANS etc., and still claim the holocaust was a hoax.

Or, some people can see footage, from multiple angles, from multiple sources, that show planes hitting the towers, or read multiple reports/explanations from experts in, structural engineering, demolition, and various other sciences, explaining how the collapses were the direct result of the PLANE strikes, and still claim that missiles, secret gov. demolition teams, or mysterious orbs were the cause.

Some people...I tell u what.


9/13/2015 4:47:54 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

class5
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Quote from naprinciple:
You had claimed earlier that there was no evidence for government agents infiltrating social media, except on "Conspiracy sites". Is that still your position?? Did you read the White Paper I linked?


Even that wasn't really evidence. No, my comment was to your remark directed at me.

My previous reference to the hoax was in reference to the famous 'on-line' confession: 'I once was a paid shill".

9/13/2015 4:52:19 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

class5
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Australia
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Quote from progrocknic:
The facts that this insane a** clown thinks those photos are new just exemplifies the lack of research on her part.


Indeed, those pics have been in circulation for years.

9/13/2015 5:00:53 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

class5
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Queensland
Australia
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Quote from srv63:
Did you not pay attention to the photo that bobby uploaded for me where i highlighted the 4 areas in yellow that clearly show where that one column was NOT CUT. Not cut as in the same exact sense as when felling a tree to where the one cutting has control over the object being cut to get it to fall when and how they like. The 4 areas of that column NOT CUT were done so as to allow the force of the building coming down from above to cause that columns upper section to fold inwards therefore snapping off the uncut portions of that diagonal cut thru the column therefore causing that column to not hinder the downward force of the section of building above.Therefore PROVING controlled demolition had a hand in the collapse of both towers.Pay attention higgy


Bobby's photo was mere conjecture. You, or Bobbie have no information as to the circumstances prior to the cut being made, and that alone makes Bobby's entire argument specious.

You cannot make the claim without all the information. It's a possibility, but nothing more, and that requires more information for confirmation.

9/13/2015 5:04:36 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

class5
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Quote from srv63:
Did you not pay attention to the photo that bobby uploaded for me where i highlighted the 4 areas in yellow that clearly show where that one column was NOT CUT. Not cut as in the same exact sense as when felling a tree to where the one cutting has control over the object being cut to get it to fall when and how they like. The 4 areas of that column NOT CUT were done so as to allow the force of the building coming down from above to cause that columns upper section to fold inwards therefore snapping off the uncut portions of that diagonal cut thru the column therefore causing that column to not hinder the downward force of the section of building above.Therefore PROVING controlled demolition had a hand in the collapse of both towers.Pay attention higgy


I see you have no response to the material I posted for you over the previous pages. Any comment?

9/13/2015 5:07:19 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

57channels
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juma

Or, some people can see footage, from multiple angles, from multiple sources, that show planes hitting the towers, or read multiple reports/explanations from experts in, structural engineering, demolition, and various other sciences, explaining how the collapses were the direct result of the PLANE strikes, and still claim that missiles, secret gov. demolition teams, or mysterious orbs were the cause.
=====================================================
What the perps showed us and claimed it was Flight 175........clearly showed the left wing dissappearing right before it hit, that same left wing going behind a building way far away--when the wing should have been in front of that building far away. Then we see no part of the alleged plane or the building break off...nothing, nada, one of the commentators said " It looked like the plane landed inside the tower. Then the nose of the alleged plane coming out the other side of the tower.

But...but...you have every right to believe a real airplane hit both towers [ Flight 11 and 77 wasn't even in the NTSB until 3 years later after the feds cooked the data ]

Sheeple think with their emoticons and those fake horrified voices closed their little tiny cowardly minds. How amny of your so-called eyewitnesses HEARD a plane?? Only those told to say they heard a plane. They all saw a hologram....but too many computer or graphic glitches....but the Jewish media smoothed it all over for the sheep.

9/13/2015 5:11:58 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  
juma2112
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Quote from 57channels:
juma

Or, some people can see footage, from multiple angles, from multiple sources, that show planes hitting the towers, or read multiple reports/explanations from experts in, structural engineering, demolition, and various other sciences, explaining how the collapses were the direct result of the PLANE strikes, and still claim that missiles, secret gov. demolition teams, or mysterious orbs were the cause.
=====================================================
What the perps showed us and claimed it was Flight 175........clearly showed the left wing dissappearing right before it hit, that same left wing going behind a building way far away--when the wing should have been in front of that building far away. Then we see no part of the alleged plane or the building break off...nothing, nada, one of the commentators said " It looked like the plane landed inside the tower. Then the nose of the alleged plane coming out the other side of the tower.

But...but...you have every right to believe a real airplane hit both towers [ Flight 11 and 77 wasn't even in the NTSB until 3 years later after the feds cooked the data ]

Sheeple think with their emoticons and those fake horrified voices closed their little tiny cowardly minds. How amny of your so-called eyewitnesses HEARD a plane?? Only those told to say they heard a plane. They all saw a hologram....but too many computer or graphic glitches....but the Jewish media smoothed it all over for the sheep.


So we agree.
No matter the mountain of evidence, some people are just to paranoid/crazy/stupid to accept facts.


9/13/2015 5:13:14 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

class5
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Quote from 57channels:
What the perps showed us and claimed it was Flight 175........clearly showed the left wing dissappearing right before it hit, that same left wing going behind a building way far away--when the wing should have been in front of that building far away. Then we see no part of the alleged plane or the building break off...nothing, nada, one of the commentators said " It looked like the plane landed inside the tower. Then the nose of the alleged plane coming out the other side of the tower.

But...but...you have every right to believe a real airplane hit both towers [ Flight 11 and 77 wasn't even in the NTSB until 3 years later after the feds cooked the data ]

Sheeple think with their emoticons and those fake horrified voices closed their little tiny cowardly minds. How amny of your so-called eyewitnesses HEARD a plane?? Only those told to say they heard a plane. They all saw a hologram....but too many computer or graphic glitches....but the Jewish media smoothed it all over for the sheep.


Please do us one little favour 57. Could you please supply a source demonstrating how the projections would work under such conditions? Those who claim holograms were deployed are never able to explain how it worked. Most just respond with something along the lines of new technology that is secret, but that of course is quite a weak and lazy response.

Seeing as you champion this hypothesis, perhaps you can explain the technical side of the operation.

9/13/2015 5:45:58 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

class5
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Quote from naprinciple:

I really don't comprehend why a private citizen would spend so much time trying to make sure the government's story is perpetuated. Is it possible you don't want people to honestly question the narrative for themselves?


9/11 truth is a scam that is supported by lies and libel. The canards of 9/11 truth are indefensible and should be exposed. They pervert science, logic and reason in order to promulgate their propaganda.

Should we remain silent while lies gain currency? Should we allow the ignorant to libel and lie in public without redress? Should we allow pseudo-science to thrive? Is that responsible?

Not me.

You and others continually focus on the government's position as if it is the only position, and that focus is far too myopic and limited. The evidence is supported by faculties all around the world as I've demonstrated, so the US govt. canard is too limiting for our purposes and designed to be thus by those who run 9/11 truth.

9/13/2015 8:35:20 PM WTC truth ATTACKS on Pentagon. Destroying the EVIDENCE against them!  

louie6332
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Classless, you state that "truth is supported by lies". But it's not. You misspoke.

Building 7 collapsed with no planes flying into it, and after the order was given by its owner to PULL IT!, which is professional lingo for “bring it down, demolish it”. The building collapsed into its own footprint identically to what buildings brought down by controlled demolitions do. Buildings falling on their own do not fall this way. The demolition chargers had to have been placed prior to the order to PULL IT. And demolition charges had been seen stacked in front of the building beforehand. And as has been pointed out in these posts many times, witnesses in the building DID hear and experience explosions in the building before it collapsed, witness who mysteriously died before they could testify, and who testimony is not in the records. Another case of evidence suppressed by the Government. Explosions were also seen and heard in the twin towers (and seen also on video), including an explosion that occurred before any plane reportedly hit the towers.

And here’s the kicker, BBC news in the UK had PRIOR knowledge of 9/11, they reported collapse of WTC tower7 early, 20 minutes before it did—TWICE, but only those in on the conspiracy could have had prior knowledge of it, this was a Government conspiracy, aided by the major news media, see the link:

http://www.infowars.com/video-bbc-had-prior-knowledge-of-911/

And, as already noted in previous posts, an organization of over 2000 architects and engineers have stated that the Government’s version of what happen on 9/11 is absolutely impossible(the collapse of the three towers was necessarily due to controlled demolition) (and the majority of the American people don’t buy the Government’s cover story either).

See the link:

http://www.infowars.com/is-it-just-a-coincidence-that-two-amazing-signs-just-appeared-on-the-14th-anniversary-of-911/

I say again, shouldn’t we allow the evidence to lead us to the truth instead of allowing the government to define what the truth is for us?

Give it up Government shills, the America people are not as stupid as you think they are.

You shills trust the Government, or pretend to trust it, despite the Government’s admission that it has an official policy of lying to the American people, only they don’t call it lying, they have a special word for it, they call it “disinformation”: “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false” (William Casey, CIA director 1981-1987, from first staff meeting in 1981)”.

The Federal Government is our enemy. It has said so by specifically naming veterans, gun owners, Constitutionalists, Conservatives, fundamentalist Christians, anti-abortionists, anti one-world governmentists, and anti man-made global warmists, as its enemy--and if we are its enemy, it is our enemy. America is in greater peril today than at any time in its history, because today, the enemy is within and has a stranglehold on America and all positions of power and influence.

It pulled off 9/11 in order to get the American people behind a planned war with Iraq--and it could not have been pulled off without the Government's involvement. And only a fool would trust his enemy. The Federal Government cannot be trusted. And you Government shills cannot be trusted, you are shamelessly making yourself a party to their crime.

Louie

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progrocknic
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Louie...... we went to Afghanistan after 9/11. The justification for war in Iraq was the threat of WMD's.

If you can't something that basic correct, what makes you think anyone will buy into your regurgitated propoganda.



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class5
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Quote from louie6332:
Classless, you state that "truth is supported by lies". But it's not. You misspoke.


No, I said 9/11 truth ios supported by lies. please revise comprehension.

Building 7 collapsed with no planes flying into it, and after the order was given by its owner to PULL IT!



No, revise the exchange. The Fire officer received a recommendation from Silversytein to evacuate the building. Silverstein had no authority to direct the FDNY.

which is professional lingo for “bring it down, demolish it”.



No, it is not. I've already demonstrated thus in this very thread.

The building collapsed into its own footprint identically to what buildings brought down by controlled demolitions do.


Both statements are false.

Buildings falling on their own do not fall this way.



It fell owing to seven hours of unfought fires that were not limited by the sprinkler systems, as they had failed owing to the severing of the water supply by the collapse of 1WTC.

The demolition chargers had to have been placed prior to the order to PULL IT. And demolition charges had been seen stacked in front of the building beforehand.


Agreed, there is no way that charges were placed 'on the day'. There were no charges stacked in front of the building...that is just a flat out lie.

And as has been pointed out in these posts many times, witnesses in the building DID hear and experience explosions in the building before it collapsed,


And as pointed out in this thread repeatedly, hearing explosions in fires is not evidence of explosives. That is very poor use of logic. No video or testimony gives us the rolling series of explosions that we hear in controlled demolitions.

witness who mysteriously died before they could testify, and who testimony is not in the records. Another case of evidence suppressed by the Government.


That is just a story that cannot be confirmed. Another myth attached to 9/11.

Explosions were also seen and heard in the twin towers (and seen also on video),


Again, explosions are heard in fires, so what?


including an explosion that occurred before any plane reportedly hit the towers.


And as usual, there is no source to back up that irrational claim. I call BS.

And here’s the kicker, BBC news in the UK had PRIOR knowledge of 9/11, they reported collapse of WTC tower7 early, 20 minutes before it did—TWICE, but only those in on the conspiracy could have had prior knowledge of it, this was a Government conspiracy, aided by the major news media, see the link:

http://www.infowars.com/video-bbc-had-prior-knowledge-of-911/



The lady misreported the evacuation order as related by the FDNY.

And, as already noted in previous posts, an organization of over 2000 architects and engineers have stated that the Government’s version of what happen on 9/11 is absolutely impossible(the collapse of the three towers was necessarily due to controlled demolition) (and the majority of the American people don’t buy the Government’s cover story either).


AE911t are just cranks, not architects and engineers. That is another lie. Just because people hate the government doesn't mean that they are right. 99.99% of people don't know much about the subject, you included.


I say again, shouldn’t we allow the evidence to lead us to the truth instead of allowing the government to define what the truth is for us?


I say again that is a silly suggestion and it is not just the government's story. Your focus is far too narrow.

Give it up Government shills, the America people are not as stupid as you think they are.


Give it up truther shills, people aren't as stupid as you believe.

You shills trust the Government, or pretend to trust it, despite the Government’s admission that it has an official policy of lying to the American people, only they don’t call it lying, they have a special word for it, they call it “disinformation”: “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false” (William Casey, CIA director 1981-1987, from first staff meeting in 1981)”.


What a stupid accusation and just another example of the weak tactics of 9/11 truth. Attack the unbelievers! You guys are like religious fundamentalists.

I can't be bothered with the rest of your insane rant...just more of the same extremely biased conjecture without supporting evidence.

You fail again Louie.

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class5
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Quote from progrocknic:
Louie...... we went to Afghanistan after 9/11. The justification for war in Iraq was the threat of WMD's.

If you can't something that basic correct, what makes you think anyone will buy into your regurgitated propoganda.


Why is it that all truthers conflate the two wars? It says much about the historical knowledge they claim superiority on.



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naprinciple
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Just for my own amusement, I'd like to hear you guys defend Bush for speaking off the record, with Cheney, instead of testifying by himself, on the record, for the 911 Commission.




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class5
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Quote from naprinciple:
Just for my own amusement, I'd like to hear you guys defend Bush for speaking off the record, with Cheney, instead of testifying by himself, on the record, for the 911 Commission.


What conversation are you referring to and is it relevant? Or is this just another veiled personal attack of no substance?



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funwithmusic
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Quote from juma2112:
So we agree.
No matter the mountain of evidence, some people are just to paranoid/crazy/stupid to accept facts.


The facts are on our side..not yours..so you speak of yourself when you speak of paranoid..crazy..stupid..and to afraid to accept the truth...

Many people just cannot fathom that their gov..has turned against them.

HOW THE CONSTITUTION WAS USURPED BY THE CORPORATIONS by git-er-done...@ patriot action

Its all in that article...all the evidence you need to learn that the gov has been usurped...Im getting tired of telling you mental midgets..over and over...Ive come to the conclusion..your just not that smart...and not very brave...but moreso cowards..


that alone tells the story about why the elected reps..do not listen to us...and why Obama seeks counsel from the United Nations..instead of the House of Representatives as the government was originally set up to operate..


NOTHING IS AS IT SHOULD BE


THIS IS NOT THE GOVERNMENT CREATED BY THE FOUNDERS

....THIS IS A GOV RAN BY FOREIGNERS...

THE ZOG....


WHO CONTROLS THE US GOVERNMENT?
thezog.wordpress



Go see for yourself...SEE THEIR NAMES...FACES..AND WHAT POSITIONS THEY HOLD..AND ASK YOURSELF WHY...JEWS ARE SO HUGELY OVER REPRESENTED IN OUR GOV...MEDIA...MILITARY...EDUCATION...ON AND ON..


But that is something you will never address...your either a SAYANIM..OR A PERSON WHO IS UNABLE TO ACCEPT THE TRUTH...A PERSON WHO HIDES HIS HEAD IN THE SAND...



..

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naprinciple
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Come on! The NeoCons couldn't trust that bumbling idiot to even face easy questions without a script.



This is a truther thread, and you're here to explain away anomalies


SO JUMP TO IT!

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class5
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Quote from naprinciple:
Come on! The NeoCons couldn't trust that bumbling idiot to even face easy questions without a script.



This is a truther thread, and you're here to explain away anomalies


SO JUMP TO IT!



Now, now, there is no need for the bullying. What conversation are you talking about?

If you can't articulate your point, how can anyone reply?

I think you're just yanking chains.



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funwithmusic
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Quote from class5:
Why is it that all truthers conflate the two wars? It says much about the historical knowledge they claim superiority on.



Were in Afghanistan GUARDING AND harvesting heroin poppy's..FOR THE FAUX US GOV..that uses the heroin to weaken the Americans ..and make money to fund their NEW JEW ORDER.

ONLY THE BABYLON TALMUD has a GLOBAL DOMINATION AGENDA..THAT IS IN PLAY..AS WE SPEAK..

WE DESTROYED ISLAMIC BANKING IN THE MIDDLE EAST..AND INSTALLED JEWISH BANKING..so as to force the Arabs into the NEW JEW ORDER.

THE ARABS ARE SMARTER THAN WE ARE WHEN IT COME TO THE JEWISH AGENDA...THEY RESISITED..we invited them in..and hande over the gov to them..cause they claim to be Gods chosen people

Even in a night club..you have to prove who you are by showing your ID

HOW COME THE JEWS WERE NEVER ID'D....GENESIS 49:10..PROVES THEY ARE NOT THE TRIBE OF JUDAH..AND HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RELIGION OF THE HEBREWS..

ALL THE LEADERS OF ISRA-HELL..CHANGTED THEIR POLISH AND RUSSIAN NAMES TO HEBREW NAMES..so as to CIRCUMVENT MANKIND ...KOL NIDRE..THEY LIED YET AGAIN..

MANY TROOPS HAVE COME BACK AND TOLD THE STORY...



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naprinciple
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Quote from class5:
Now, now, there is no need for the bullying. What conversation are you talking about?

If you can't articulate your point, how can anyone reply?

I think you're just yanking chains.



http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/28/politics/28BUSH.html

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class5
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Quote from funwithmusic:
Were in Afghanistan GUARDING AND harvesting heroin poppy's..FOR THE FAUX US GOV..that uses the heroin to weaken the Americans ..and make money to fund their NEW JEW ORDER.

MANY TROOPS HAVE COME BACK AND TOLD THE STORY...



....and you missed the point as usual. Conflate means 'merge together' and my point was, why do people see the two wars as the same when they clearly aren't. People associate 9/11 with the invasion of Iraq incorrectly. I hope that clears up your confusion.

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funwithmusic
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Quote from class5:
....and you missed the point as usual. Conflate means 'merge together' and my point was, why do people see the two wars as the same when they clearly aren't. People associate 9/11 with the invasion of Iraq incorrectly. I hope that clears up your confusion.


Ok then..what war should we associate 9/11 with?

All I heard about was Saddam with WMD'S...then off we went to war...Afghanistan is used to farm HEROIN POPPYS to fund the NEW WORLD ORDER...using AMERICAN MONEY..AND BLOOD to accomplish this devilish agenda.

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class5
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Quote from naprinciple:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/28/politics/28BUSH.html


I think this caveat says it all:

"The White House press secretary, Scott McClellan, told reporters that the session would not be officially transcribed because the White House considered it a "private meeting" that would include highly classified information.

"Let's keep in mind that it is extraordinary for a sitting president of the United States to sit down with a legislatively created commission," Mr. McClellan said.
"

Can you articulate your problem with the piece?

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class5
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Quote from funwithmusic:
Ok then..what war should we associate 9/11 with?




Afghanistan of course. Can't you understand that? The war with Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and that is the point.

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funwithmusic
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Quote from louie6332:
Classless, you state that "truth is supported by lies". But it's not. You misspoke.

Building 7 collapsed with no planes flying into it, and after the order was given by its owner to PULL IT!, which is professional lingo for “bring it down, demolish it”. The building collapsed into its own footprint identically to what buildings brought down by controlled demolitions do. Buildings falling on their own do not fall this way. The demolition chargers had to have been placed prior to the order to PULL IT. And demolition charges had been seen stacked in front of the building beforehand. And as has been pointed out in these posts many times, witnesses in the building DID hear and experience explosions in the building before it collapsed, witness who mysteriously died before they could testify, and who testimony is not in the records. Another case of evidence suppressed by the Government. Explosions were also seen and heard in the twin towers (and seen also on video), including an explosion that occurred before any plane reportedly hit the towers.

And here’s the kicker, BBC news in the UK had PRIOR knowledge of 9/11, they reported collapse of WTC tower7 early, 20 minutes before it did—TWICE, but only those in on the conspiracy could have had prior knowledge of it, this was a Government conspiracy, aided by the major news media, see the link:

http://www.infowars.com/video-bbc-had-prior-knowledge-of-911/

And, as already noted in previous posts, an organization of over 2000 architects and engineers have stated that the Government’s version of what happen on 9/11 is absolutely impossible(the collapse of the three towers was necessarily due to controlled demolition) (and the majority of the American people don’t buy the Government’s cover story either).

See the link:

http://www.infowars.com/is-it-just-a-coincidence-that-two-amazing-signs-just-appeared-on-the-14th-anniversary-of-911/

I say again, shouldn’t we allow the evidence to lead us to the truth instead of allowing the government to define what the truth is for us?

Give it up Government shills, the America people are not as stupid as you think they are.

You shills trust the Government, or pretend to trust it, despite the Government’s admission that it has an official policy of lying to the American people, only they don’t call it lying, they have a special word for it, they call it “disinformation”: “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false” (William Casey, CIA director 1981-1987, from first staff meeting in 1981)”.

The Federal Government is our enemy. It has said so by specifically naming veterans, gun owners, Constitutionalists, Conservatives, fundamentalist Christians, anti-abortionists, anti one-world governmentists, and anti man-made global warmists, as its enemy--and if we are its enemy, it is our enemy. America is in greater peril today than at any time in its history, because today, the enemy is within and has a stranglehold on America and all positions of power and influence.

It pulled off 9/11 in order to get the American people behind a planned war with Iraq--and it could not have been pulled off without the Government's involvement. And only a fool would trust his enemy. The Federal Government cannot be trusted. And you Government shills cannot be trusted, you are shamelessly making yourself a party to their crime.

Louie



Classless refuses to hear the truth..that you have posted in this post...

The truth is not what he wants to hear..Hes here to perpetuate lies to decive..and mis-lead..for the Zionists.

so are his buddies.

They are Zionist Sayanim...working to destory America from within..and loot our wealth...and force our youth to die for their agendas...then force us to pay for their folly..

ISRA-HELL..is not of God..but was built by ROthschild..a worshipper of Lucifer


Three is not one verse in the bible..that states there is to be a state of ISrael...a temple...sacrifices...or that there is an Anti Christ man


Its all Jewish fables..(book of Titus chapter one. - We were warned about Jewish lies)


IT ALL COMES FROM DANIEL 9:25..

THE BIBLICAL VERSION:

Christ made a covenant with many..and died on the cross..stopping the animal sacrifices

THE TWISTED non scriptural JEWISH VERSION:
The ANTI CHRIST came and betrayed the Jews..stopped the animal sacrifice...Since there was a animal sacrifice..then there must be a temple..and a land of Israel.

ITS ALL A SCAM..THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ANTI CHRIST IN THE BIBLE..its always used in the PLURAL SENSE..AS IN MANY,...NOT ONCE IN THE SINGULAR SENSE..


WW3..is supposed to represent ARMAGEDDON..even though the BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON HAPPENED HAS ALREADY HAPPENED....and is metaphoric...and happened in the days of Christ...Its in Zechariah I beleive..



LOUIE...Read GENESIS 49:10..and learn that Jesus is the King of Judah now..and we are the tribesmen of Christ..WE ARE JUDAH..not the Jews..


THEN RE-READ ZECHARIAH 12-15 OR 16..The Jews will disappear as we have been brainwashed to believe this scripture is about them..and not us.....

when you do this...The Jews will disappear..and Christ and his people will re-appear when you know the truth about Judah..and you will see there is not one thing about the Jews in those scriptures..



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juma2112
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Fun,

the problem with ur theory is, while Afghanistan does supply 70-80% of the WORLDS heroin, the majority of heroin in the U.S. comes from Columbia, and Mexico.


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class5
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Quote from juma2112:
Fun,

the problem with ur theory is, while Afghanistan does supply 70-80% of the WORLDS heroin, the majority of heroin in the U.S. comes from Columbia, and Mexico.


Don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

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srv63
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Below is the url to a pretty damn interesting article with FACTS about the past of the United States and it has got me to understanding more on why Funwithmusic believes that Israhell is the key evil behind the treasonous acts of 9/11.

https://rainbowwarrior2005.wordpress.com/2009/09/24/who-benefited-the-most-by-j-f-kennedys-death/

If Israhell is behind JFK's murder,then Israhell should cease to exist!

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naprinciple
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Quote from class5:
I think this caveat says it all:

"The White House press secretary, Scott McClellan, told reporters that the session would not be officially transcribed because the White House considered it a "private meeting" that would include highly classified information.

"Let's keep in mind that it is extraordinary for a sitting president of the United States to sit down with a legislatively created commission," Mr. McClellan said.
"

Can you articulate your problem with the piece?





You can't imagine why someone might be suspicious about this?



1
President George Washington testified before the entire Senate on the subject of Indian treaties on
August 22, 1789.
- 1 -
SITTING PRESIDENTS AND VICE PRESIDENTS WHO HAVE TESTIFIED
BEFORE CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEES
___________________
President Abraham Lincoln
1
House Judiciary Committee
February 13, 1862
"President Lincoln today voluntarily appeared before the House Judiciary Committee," reported the New York
Tribune
, "and gave testimony in the matter of the premature publication in the
Herald
of a portion of his last annual
message." Lincoln's message to Congress in December 1861 had been published in the New York
Herald
on the same
morning that it was sent to Capitol Hill. The House Judiciary Committee, chaired by John Hickman, investigated the
leak and called
Herald
correspondent Henry Wikoff to testify. Wikoff refused to divulge his source, citing "an obligation
of strictest secrecy." Given Wikoff's close friendship with Mary Todd Lincoln, many assumed that the correspondent
was protecting the First Lady. The committee ordered the sergeant at arms to hold Wikoff. Then the President went to
the Capitol for a private meeting with Judiciary Committee members, to assure them that no member of his family was
involved. The next day the committee released Wikoff.
Vice President Schuyler Colfax
House Select Committee to Investigate the Credit Mobilier
January 7, 1873
Vice President Colfax appeared voluntarily before the House Select Committee concerning his ownership of stock in
Credit Mobilier, a company involved in the construction of the federally-subsidized transcontinental Union Pacific
Railroad. During the previous presidential campaign, in response to newspaper criticism, Colfax had denied that the
railroad's agent, Congressman Oakes Ames, had given or offered him stock in the Credit Mobilier. Before the
committee, Colfax testified that he had first agreed to buy five hundred dollars worth of the stock from Ames but later
decided against making the purchase; but that Ames never repaid him the five hundred dollars. Oakes Ames, however,
produced evidence of Colfax's check to him for five hundred and thirty-four dollars and his check to Colfax for twelve
hundred dollars, the difference being a sixty percent cash dividend.
President Woodrow Wilson
Senate Foreign Relations Committee
August 19, 1919
Members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee took testimony from President Wilson at the White House,
concerning the treaty of peace with Germany, and establishment of a League of Nations. The President opened by
reading a statement and then answered questions for three and a half hours, after which the President invited them to
stay for lunch. Chairman Henry Cabot Lodge explained that the committee was "very desirous of getting information on
certain points which seem not clear and on which they thought information would be of value to them." Despite Wilson's
efforts, the Senate twice rejected the Treaty of Versailles, and the United States never joined the League.
President Gerald R. Ford
Subcommittee on Criminal Justice, House Judiciary Committee
October 17, 1974
President Ford voluntarily appeared before the Subcommittee at the Capitol to explain the reasons behind his pardon
of former President Richard M. Nixon. Ford insisted that the pardon had not been prearranged, but was the result of his
concern over reports of Nixon's deteriorating mental and physical health.

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funwithmusic
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REMEMBER LOUIE..CHRIST TOLD US A FALSE TRIBE OF JUDAH WOULD COME AND INFILTRATE THE CHRISTIAN CHURCHES..

AND THEY HAVE...THEY CALL THEMSELVES.."JEWS"....which is a new word created in the 1600's or so..AND WAS INSERTED INTO THE BIBLE..


JEWS..were IDUMEA...EDOM...and still are today according to their own RABBIS.


REVELATION 2:9 AND 3:9...THEY SAY THEY ARE OF JUDAH..BUT ARE NOT..AS THEY DO LIE..BUT ARE A SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN..

That is how it should read....they have made changes in the bible..



JEREMIAH TOLD US THIS WOULD HAPPEN:
JEREMIAH 8:8..THE LYING PEN OF THE SCRIBES
JEREMIAH 23:34-36 THEY PERVERTED THE WORD OF GOD..
JEREMIAH 29:23...THEY SPEAK LIES IN MY NAME

Jehovah was added into the bible..THIS IS ONLY THE NAME OF THE GOD OF THE JEWS...NOT OUR GOD..IAM THAT IAM....



STRONGS EXHASTIVE BIBLE CONCORDANCE KJV HEBREW
#1942 & #1943 jeh means a god

HOVAH..OR HAVVAH...EVIL PERVERSE THING..VERY WICKED..



There is nothing WICKED in heaven where God dwells according ot scripture



STRONGS EXHASTIVE BIBLE CONCORDANCE KJV HEBREW
#3068..Jehovah..the GOD OF THE JEWS..


STRONGS EXHASTIVE BIBLE CONCORDANCE KJV HEBREW
#3067...Yehudiyth..Judith..wife of Esau..parents of EDOM
A CANAANITES...A JEWESS!!!
A CANAANITES...A JEWESS!!!
A CANAANITES...A JEWESS!!!
A CANAANITES...A JEWESS!!!



THE BOOK OF ESTHER is a book not supported by history. NOTICE THAT THE JEWS NEVER MENTION GOD..OR GIVE HIM THANKS


THAT BOOK OF ESTHER IS PUT THERE TO WARN US ABOUT HOW JEWS TAKE OVER NATIONS...FROM WITHIN..and THEN COMMIT GENOCIDE..and their history expecially this last century..prove them to be a people who GENOCIDE CHRISTIAN NATIONS..

NATIONS LIKE CHRISTIAN AMERICA...who now has JEWISH LAWS...NOAHIDE LAWS..which require the BEHEADING OF CHRISTIANS..
..How can a VICIOUS GENOCIDAL PSYCHOPATHIC people like this be our ALL-LIES..??

REad ESTER again..without all that Zionist Christian hoopla ...Its a book created to WARN MANKIND. ABOUT WHAT JEWS OF TALMUDIC JUDAISM ARE REALLY LIKE..


Christian Zionism is a Jewish cult...and when they are finished..if they win..they will murder all the Christian Zionists...with glee..

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class5
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Quote from naprinciple:
You can't imagine why someone might be suspicious about this?


I can imagine why, but it is somewhat superficial in light of the campaign against Al-Qaeda. I see it as a wise tactic.

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naprinciple
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Quote from class5:
I can imagine why, but it is somewhat superficial in light of the campaign against Al-Qaeda. I see it as a wise tactic.





I appreciate you taking the time to defend Bush administration's sophistry. You didn't disappoint



I do admire how consistent you are with the official story

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class5
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Quote from naprinciple:
I appreciate you taking the time to defend Bush administration's sophistry. You didn't disappoint


Straw man. I merely quoted the article and you know that, so why the misrepresentation? So I can see the tactical advantage and you can't? Just because you harbour suspicions without evidence doesn't make everyone else wrong. You really need to bring your logic up a notch there, and focus on the topic, not the individual. Your mendacity back fired on you this time.

I do admire how consistent you are with the official story


I do so NOT admire how your logic is flawed and the fact that you need to continually present fallacious arguments.

I quoted the article objectively and you tried to misrepresent it as partisan. Are you aware of how mendacious that appears? Can you not see the tactical advantage? Seriously?



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funwithmusic
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Israel Secret Intelligence Service...ISIS..


PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER REPORTED THIS CONVERSATION...ITS RECORDED IN THE CONGRESS LIBRARY





ISRA-HELL CANNOT ATTACK IRAN WITHOUT AMERICAN HELP.....HAVE NO PART OF THE GENOCIDE OF INNOCENT NATIONS!!!


THIS IS THE TEACHINGS OF THE BABYLON TALMUD, ..KABBALAH..AND THE ZOHAR..IS IT A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THE TALMUDIC JEWS IN OUR GOVERNMENT?

RABBI DOV ZACKHEIM IS SUSPECTED OF ROBBING THE USA OF OVER 2 TRILLION DOLLARS..AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN A TRIAL..

THERE WAS AN INVESTIGATION against the Bad Rabbi,..BUT ALL THE EVIDENCE WAS DESTROYED WHEN THE ZIONIST BOMBED THE PENTAGON ON 9/11...There was no plane..its a lie..witness's say so..


Westly Clark is a crypto Jew



NOW YOU KNOW WHY JEWS HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT OF 110 COUNTRIES..IN HISTORY..ITS BECAUSE IF THERI SICK AND DEPRAVED RELIGION..THAT TRAMPLES ALL OVER OTHER PEOPLE...ROBS THEM OF THEIR WEALTH..EVEN GENOCIDES NATIONS OF PEOPLE...AS JEWS HAVE BEEN DOING AT BREAK NECK SPEED THIS LAST CENTURY..


AND THEN WHEN ANYONE OPPOSES THEIR GENOCIDES...MURDERS..INFILTRATIONS..

THEY CRY PERSEUCTION!PERSECUTION!PERSECUTION!

They are bullies..and THE BABYLON TALMUD..KABBALAH..AND ZOHAR SHOULD BE WIPED OFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET..

THOSE ARE BOOKS STRAIGHT OUT OF HELL.

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naprinciple
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I'm assuming you're going to dance to the official tune, and you do. How is that a strawman?


It seems I'm properly representing your positions





My prediction rate going forward is going to be incredible

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class5
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Quote from naprinciple:
I'm assuming you're going to dance to the official tune, and you do. How is that a strawman?


Because I did not offer an opinion other than that I can see the tactical advantage, and it doesn't necessarily follow that someone is 'dancing to a tune'. You know that as well as I. Your logic here is quite poor, and I noticed you offered nothing but your suspicions, so it is you who is dancing to the usual tune.

It seems I'm properly representing your positions


No, you're not. I quoted the article as to the reason why they refused to go public and you treated that as a partisan stance. I call that dishonest.

My prediction rate going forward is going to be incredible


Well it would when YOU select the material. Your weak calibration test is stacked in your favour, just like the last time you pulled such a stunt.

Is your argument so weak that you have to focus on the individual and not the topic?



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Quote from naprinciple:
I appreciate you taking the time to defend Bush administration's sophistry. You didn't disappoint



I do admire how consistent you are with the official story


Yeah, the government needs to hire him as their new b*tch to lick their shoes and wipe their asses

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naprinciple
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I just want to expose you as a dancing monkey for the official tune. Be proud of your job, your work ethic and own it



You might be embarrassed by your job, but I'd like to single you out for the tireless worker you are

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class5
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Quote from naprinciple:
I just want to expose you as a dancing monkey for the official tune. Be proud of your job, your work ethic and own it


You failed.



You might be embarrassed by your job, but I'd like to single you out for the tireless worker you are


F**k off nappy. Your fallacious reasoning is obvious.



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class5
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Quote from srv63:
Yeah, the government needs to hire him as their new b*tch to lick their shoes and wipe their asses


Yes! I'm bored with wiping yours!

How's that cross with the melted sheet? LOLOL

IS shills, go back to Mecca!



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naprinciple
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Why do you suppose the 911 commission said the funding of the 911 terror attacks was of "little practical significance"?




Let me guess, you'll excuse this in some way?




Dance monkey, dance

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funwithmusic
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Quote from class5:
Yes! I'm bored with wiping yours!

How's that cross with the melted sheet? LOLOL

IS shills, go back to Mecca!


Were Americans ....\

Were defending our country from the USURPERS WITHIN..

American will be country 111 ...that has kicked out the Zionist Jews ..because of their VERY BAD BEHAVIOR..


Hey..they made their own history bed..now they will have to lay in it..

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naprinciple
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Why do you suppose the Taliban nearly had opium fields killed off, but since the invasion Afghani heroin is setting new yearly records?





I'll bet you'll find a way to explain this away without making the US government look like criminals?




Dance monkey, dance

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class5
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Quote from naprinciple:Why do you suppose the 911 commission said the funding of the 911 terror attacks was of "little practical significance"?



I suppose they considered the funding of "little practical significance". What do you extrapolate from the statement?

Before anyone jumps to irrational conclusions, let's have a look at what funding would be required. One could apply this to all 19 hijackers.

a) Entry to the US (flights, visas etc.)

b) Accomodation, meals & living expenses

c) Tech. Computers and phones

d) Travel expenses

e) Flying lessons

f) Airline tickets.



What else might they need? Any ideas? Can you add to the list at all?

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class5
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Quote from funwithmusic:Were Americans ....\
Were defending our country from the USURPERS WITHIN..
American will be country 111 ...that has kicked out the Zionist Jews ..because of their VERY BAD BEHAVIOR..
Hey..they made their own history bed..now they will have to lay in it..





Yes, yes...I've heard it all a thousand times. Drape yourself in the flag and stand before the Statue of Bigotry declaring your right to take away the rights of others.

Yes, rhetoric is everywhere.

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naprinciple
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Quote from class5:
Quote from naprinciple:Why do you suppose the 911 commission said the funding of the 911 terror attacks was of "little practical significance"?



I suppose they considered the funding of "little practical significance". What do you extrapolate from the statement?

Before anyone jumps to irrational conclusions, let's have a look at what funding would be required. One could apply this to all 19 hijackers.

a) Entry to the US (flights, visas etc.)

b) Accomodation, meals & living expenses

c) Tech. Computers and phones

d) Travel expenses

e) Flying lessons

f) Airline tickets.



What else might they need? Any ideas? Can you add to the list at all?





Would I be wrong in assuming you have to explain away any flaws pointed out, no matter how rude I am to you?

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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)

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naprinciple
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Why do you suppose men in suits were out on the lawn of the Pentagon, policing up debris before investigators could document and log positions of items?




I think you can hit this one out of the park



Dance monkey, dance

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funwithmusic
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Quote from naprinciple:
I just want to expose you as a dancing monkey for the official tune. Be proud of your job, your work ethic and own it



You might be embarrassed by your job, but I'd like to single you out for the tireless worker you are




Sayanim: Israeli Operatives in the U.S.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/12/26/sayanim-israeli-operatives-in-the-u-s-2/

http://www.whale.to/c/jeff_gates1.html





Notice..the date 1999...Isra-hell infiltration of the USA exposed by our MILITARY MAN..


They think they have the right to mold nations into their own image without the permission of those they are molding..changing their customs...traditions..into Jewish ones..USING MEDIA TO SOCIALLY ENGINEER THE PEOPLE...also genociding millions along the way.

These people have no conscience..what so ever..That is why JUDAISM..KABBALAH..ZOHAR..should be burned..destoryed..and banned forever...and ALL JEWS REPROGRAMMED to get along with their neighbors..instead of robbing them and trying to control them..




LEAGUE OF NATIONS....IS NOW CALLED THE UNITED NATIONS...ITS GLOBAL JEWRY ON STEROIDS..that is why the UN never exposes ISRA-HELLS OVER 400 NUKES..as exposed by Mordechi Vanunu..a Jew who lives among the Palestinians after serving 18 years for exposing the Jewish Nuclear program..which is massive to be used for global war...Not for peace..




THEY ARENT EVEN SEMITES..THEY ARE KHAZARS..THE MURDEROUS HUNS..



NOT FOR LONG YOU GODLESS BASTARD..



THE REAL HOLOCAUST WAS AGAINST THE GERMANS..NOT THE JEWS..Way more than 6 million Germans were murdered by Jews controlling the Allied nations. THESE JEWS..KILLED THE JEWS IN THE CAMPS WHEN THEY BOMBED THE GERMAN SUPPLY LINES..






Israel control of USA (& Canadian) government
http://www.whale.to/c/israel_control_usa.html

GREAT SITE..LOTS OF HYPER LINKS..LOTS OF INFO!


JUDAISM IS A POLITICAL MOVEMENT...NOT A RELIGION