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class5
Queensland
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Quote from naprinciple:Would I be wrong in assuming you have to explain away any flaws pointed out, no matter how rude I am to you?
Straw man. You have not pointed out any flaws. You have merely extrapolated based upon confirmation bias and you are judging others negatively when they don't evince the same confirmation bias. Sorry, but that is not critical thinking, that is just biased opinion.
This is a place for discussion and that's what we do. You have made it clear that you're not interested in the so-called 'MINUTIAE' therefore you have nothing left but an ad hominem argument that is built upon a straw man.
So, in the spirit of discussion, what significant funding would be required as I have no idea apart from what I've listed.
Quite simply, are you interested in the subject, or are you interested in fantasising about me?
[Edited 9/13/2015 11:15:46 PM ]
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9/13/2015 11:14:31 PM |
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class5
Queensland
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Fun, you f**ked up the thread again with your silly pics!
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9/13/2015 11:18:12 PM |
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naprinciple
West Plains, MO
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Quote from naprinciple:Would I be wrong in assuming you have to explain away any flaws pointed out, no matter how rude I am to you?
Straw man. You have not pointed out any flaws. You have merely extrapolated based upon confirmation bias and you are judging others negatively when they don't evince the same confirmation bias. Sorry, but that is not critical thinking, that is just bias.
This is a place for discussion and that's what we do. You have made it clear that you're not interested in the so-called 'MINUTIAE' therefore you have nothing left but an ad hominem argument that is built upon a straw man.
So, in the spirit of discussion, what significant funding would be required as I have no idea apart from what I've listed.
Quite simply, are you interested in the subject, or are you interested in fantasising about me?
But yet you respond to explain away or deflect anyway
Why do you suppose the Taliban nearly had opium fields killed off, but since the invasion Afghani heroin is setting new yearly records?
I'll bet you'll find a way to explain this away without making the US government look like criminals?
Dance monkey, dance
Why do you suppose men in suits were out on the lawn of the Pentagon, policing up debris before investigators could document and log positions of items?
I think you can hit this one out of the park
Dance monkey, dance
You've missed a couple
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9/13/2015 11:24:54 PM |
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class5
Queensland
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Quote from bottomfeeder:Tell us Truth Molester, found any site cleanup crews yet that practice removing huge steel columns by cutting them at a 45 degree angle? None yet? Golly gee, i wonder why. How many of them cleanup crews told you your a f**kin idiot?
If you are going to state, "you're a f**king idiot", you should at least spell it right.
Listen, I know this thread has down to the level of crayon eating as usual (thanks nappy), but you still have to demonstrate the column was cut prior to the clean up as you claim. Until you can do that your argument is nothing more than idle speculation. How many times do you need to be told how to do this?
God it must suck being an idiot
Tell me how it feels, as I've no idea what it feels like. You have more experience than most I would imagine.
Every time you accuse me of being a child molester, I will flag your post. That is unconscionable on your part and you really need to desist.
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9/13/2015 11:27:28 PM |
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class5
Queensland
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I posted this:
"Straw man. You have not pointed out any flaws. You have merely extrapolated based upon confirmation bias and you are judging others negatively when they don't evince the same confirmation bias. Sorry, but that is not critical thinking, that is just bias.
This is a place for discussion and that's what we do. You have made it clear that you're not interested in the so-called 'MINUTIAE' therefore you have nothing left but an ad hominem argument that is built upon a straw man.
So, in the spirit of discussion, what significant funding would be required as I have no idea apart from what I've listed."
And you respond with this shit:
"But yet you respond to explain away or deflect anyway"
Are you serious? I get the feeling you're just having fun at my expense here. What expenses were of such ground breaking import?
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9/13/2015 11:32:26 PM |
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naprinciple
West Plains, MO
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They are legitimate points the government doesn't even address. Who knows, maybe some reader will start asking themselves if these questions have merit
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9/13/2015 11:38:55 PM |
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class5
Queensland
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Quote from naprinciple:They are legitimate points the government doesn't even address. Who knows, maybe some reader will start asking themselves if these questions have merit
Maybe. I don't particularly care because any conclusion will just be idle speculation until further evidence presents itself.
JAQing off means little to me.
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9/13/2015 11:45:07 PM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)
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9/13/2015 11:45:22 PM |
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juma2112
Wheat Ridge, CO
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Careful class, nap blocks when he's confronted on his skewed take on...EVERYTHING.
To be honest, I enjoy the forums a little more from this side of his list.
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9/13/2015 11:46:43 PM |
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class5
Queensland
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Flagged.
How can an Australian commit treason in the US on the internet?
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class5
Queensland
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Quote from juma2112:Careful class, nap blocks when he's confronted on his skewed take on...EVERYTHING.
To be honest, I enjoy the forums a little more from this side of his list.
I know, and I've been blocked by him on more than a few occasions. I actually like the guy despite some of his tactics, and I too prefer to see his posts than not. He's baiting and I'm not biting. Bless his little cotton socks.
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9/13/2015 11:53:17 PM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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One of israhells elite
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9/13/2015 11:56:40 PM |
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aposorichie
Berwyn, IL
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Careful class, nap blocks when he's confronted on his skewed take on...EVERYTHING.
To be honest, I enjoy the forums a little more from this side of his list.
Yep blocked me too.
I miss frickin with him thou.
I only want to rule him.
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9/14/2015 12:00:15 AM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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Flagged.
How can an Australian commit treason in the US on the internet?
Now that was one retarded comment
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9/14/2015 12:07:39 AM |
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class5
Queensland
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Quote from srv63:Now that was one retarded comment
That's what I thought. An Australian cannot commit treason in the US on the internet. Some folks say the silliest things.
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9/14/2015 12:25:00 AM |
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higgy51
Navarro, CA
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Now that was one retarded comment
Notice how you didn't answer him.
How can an Aussie commit treason in the USA over the internet?
Now you can see that YOUR comment was the retarded one. Like most of them tom be honest.
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9/14/2015 12:26:24 AM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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Present for the shills
Your welcome
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9/14/2015 12:28:15 AM |
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class5
Queensland
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Quote from aposorichie:Yep blocked me too.
I miss frickin with him thou.
I only want to rule him.
I like how he tries to make everything about the US government and completely ignores the fact that independent research has come out in support of the NIST report.
The argument is no longer about the government as the support for the accepted version is far wider, and has been for some time.
Btw, thanks for your comment about 'keeping it real'. I like that and that is the point-to keep the discussion grounded in reality, and with 9/11 that is so difficult owing to the unreasonable nature of the hypotheses put forward by 9/11 truth.
Everyone discusses controlled demolition as if it is a given, and few have the stones to stand up and say, "that is moronic!"
I don't care who was in government, or even if there was no government, for it is immaterial. Controlled demolition is stupid. You and I know it, but many want to accept it so badly that reason takes a back seat to prejudice. It's a common trait.
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longbobby
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class5
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Quote from srv63:Present for the shills
Are really going to go down to those depths?
Grow up, man and stop making a fool of yourself.
So, the evidence presented in support of the accepted version has been buried again by pages of persiflage.
How predictable.
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9/14/2015 12:33:02 AM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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Notice how you didn't answer him.
How can an Aussie commit treason in the USA over the internet?
Now you can see that YOUR comment was the retarded one. Like most of them tom be honest.
Answer me wise one. If we had a REAL investigation into 9/11 and found out that the culprits were in another country, would we not go after them? If the culprits were paying some scumbags in another country to help them hide their crime,would we not have a prison cell waiting for them scumbags as well? Bet your a** on it!
I rest my case
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9/14/2015 12:34:40 AM |
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class5
Queensland
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Quote from srv63:Answer me wise one. If we had a REAL investigation into 9/11 and found out that the culprits were in another country, would we not go after them? If the culprits were paying some scumbags in another country to help them hide their crime,would we not have a prison cell waiting for them scumbags as well? Bet your a** on it!
I rest my case
And that is what happened with Afghanistan. The Taliban etc.? Or were you asleep that day?
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higgy51
Navarro, CA
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Tell us Truth Molester, found any site cleanup crews yet that practice removing huge steel columns by cutting them at a 45 degree angle? None yet? Golly gee, i wonder why. How many of them cleanup crews told you your a f**kin idiot?
God it must suck being an idiot
Oh hum SRV....why are you ignoring this request AGAIN?
However, you have still FAILED to answer:
"PROVE that they were cut by the "explosive" people or those government workers that cut them BEFORE the "explosions" to make sure that they collapsed...as in an inside job"
Prove it was an inside job. Prove that they were cut prior to the planes hitting the towers.
When were they cut by those on the inside?
You can't.
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9/14/2015 12:36:16 AM |
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class5
Queensland
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He has already bleated on about proving this already. LOLOL
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9/14/2015 12:38:18 AM |
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higgy51
Navarro, CA
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Tell us Truth Molester, found any site cleanup crews yet that practice removing huge steel columns by cutting them at a 45 degree angle? None yet? Golly gee, i wonder why. How many of them cleanup crews told you your a f**kin idiot?
God it must suck being an idiot
Okay, because you CANNOT answer my question to show proof that others than the clean up crew cut the columns...let's try this one:
Please provide information how the "bad guys" went into the buildings, cut the columns, laid the explosive charges, or the thermite (take your choice) and how they did this without being spotted by thousands that work there.
Also please list how many people it would have taken to undertake this task.
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9/14/2015 12:41:34 AM |
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higgy51
Navarro, CA
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Answer me wise one. If we had a REAL investigation into 9/11 and found out that the culprits were in another country, would we not go after them? If the culprits were paying some scumbags in another country to help them hide their crime,would we not have a prison cell waiting for them scumbags as well? Bet your a** on it!
I rest my case
You have not even answered the question all you have done AGAIN is skip by and come up with something else, you do this often don't you?
Answer the question, how can he be commiting treason against the USA?
Do you even understand the word TREASON?
In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more extreme acts against one's sovereign or nation.
Ergo, is the USA is NOT one's soverign or nation, then he cannot commit treason!
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9/14/2015 12:43:47 AM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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Quote from srv63:Present for the shills
Are really going to go down to those depths?
Grow up, man and stop making a fool of yourself.
So, the evidence presented in support of the accepted version has been buried again by pages of persiflage.
How predictable.
What is it, like two weeks now and you still can't muster up the courage to address how that column was removed from ground zero without cutting completely thru it? Did the crane they use have super powers to snap the top section off from the bottom portion of the column? Tell us genius, you been crying for proof of a controlled demolition well, here it is.
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9/14/2015 12:55:20 AM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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Okay, because you CANNOT answer my question to show proof that others than the clean up crew cut the columns...let's try this one:
Please provide information how the "bad guys" went into the buildings, cut the columns, laid the explosive charges, or the thermite (take your choice) and how they did this without being spotted by thousands that work there.
Also please list how many people it would have taken to undertake this task.
One crew of 10 men for each tower and could be done in less than a week
Now answer my damn question unless your terrified of it like your traitor counterparts
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class5
Queensland
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Quote from srv63:What is it, like two weeks now and you still can't muster up the courage to address how that column was removed from ground zero without cutting completely thru it?
Muster up the courage? God you talk some shit. I'm still waiting for you to prove it was not cut by the clean up crews. You can't do that, so I don't bother with your claim. It's that simple.
Did the crane they use have super powers to snap the top section off from the bottom portion of the column? Tell us genius, you been crying for proof of a controlled demolition well, here it is.
You won't be remembered for your skills in logic will you? Until you can prove that the cut wasn't made by the clean up crews your point is worthless, and you can't do that. So, that is why I ignore your point-it has no merit until you fulfil your obligations, and you've shown repeatedly that you're incapable of presenting a well reasoned and developed case. It's simply beyond your capabilities.
That is why I can't take you seriously.
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class5
Queensland
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Quote from higgy51:Notice how you didn't answer him.
9/11 truth don't answer questions (see the recent exchange with naprinciple), they gish gallop me with questions, but won't answer them in return.
Have you ever had a truther give you a straight answer? I haven't.
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9/14/2015 4:13:16 AM |
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class5
Queensland
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Quote from srv63:
...Now answer my damn question...
Say, 'NO!' to cyber-bullying.
Here you go:
https://youtu.be/DlkWFDiYgig
Tragic Parrot has already pointed this out, and you barely gave it a response.
Psst! This was made by a truther who knew how dumb it was to try this one.
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9/14/2015 4:20:02 AM |
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class5
Queensland
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From the video's comments:
"I worked as an industrial welder for years and often used acetylene cutting torches to cut thick metal. (Not the more recent innovations with thermite cutters mentioned.) Every time I saw this photo I was immediately reminded of that process, though thermite charges seemed almost as likely to produce such a result. The ridges in the cut and the slag is very typical. So I will readily back the claim that it was part of the cleanup process and that our focus should be elsewhere when it comes to solid evidence -- unless of course this photo was from Sept 11 or before cleanup crews were at work. Regarding the angled cut, for anyone who has felled a tree, this angle on vertical beams will come as no surprise. It is a way of controlling the weight and tendency to fall. It was surely not a way of working around obstructions, and yes, it is more material to cut, but safety for the cleanup worker would be the primary concern, so it is no coincidence that all those cut beams show a similar cut, designed to contain chaos."
I know a welder who will vilify that opinion until a blood vessel gives out.
9/11 truth, disagreeing with itself for over 14 years.
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9/14/2015 7:35:59 AM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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Quote from higgy51:Notice how you didn't answer him.
9/11 truth don't answer questions (see the recent exchange with naprinciple), they gish gallop me with questions, but won't answer them in return.
Have you ever had a truther give you a straight answer? I haven't.
Your the average worthless shill. I have answered one hell of allot more questions from you clowns but in standard shill fashion, you run like a p*ssy before answering my questions. We hear your trap moving but yet nothing of substance ever comes out.If you can't stop being a spineless little b*tch that runs her trap but evades when it's time to answer others questions, then don't even respond to me at all because your not worth my time.
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9/14/2015 7:40:25 AM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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From the video's comments:
" I worked as an industrial welder for years and often used acetylene cutting torches to cut thick metal. (Not the more recent innovations with thermite cutters mentioned.) Every time I saw this photo I was immediately reminded of that process, though thermite charges seemed almost as likely to produce such a result. The ridges in the cut and the slag is very typical. So I will readily back the claim that it was part of the cleanup process and that our focus should be elsewhere when it comes to solid evidence -- unless of course this photo was from Sept 11 or before cleanup crews were at work. Regarding the angled cut, for anyone who has felled a tree, this angle on vertical beams will come as no surprise. It is a way of controlling the weight and tendency to fall. It was surely not a way of working around obstructions, and yes, it is more material to cut, but safety for the cleanup worker would be the primary concern, so it is no coincidence that all those cut beams show a similar cut, designed to contain chaos."
I know a welder who will vilify that opinion until a blood vessel gives out.
9/11 truth, disagreeing with itself for over 14 years.
HAHAHAHA F**KINHAHA. YOU ARE ONE STUPID F**KIN IDIOT POSTING THAT BULLSHIT.
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louie6332
Falkville, AL
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Bluecougereyes, has, in another thread, some excellent posts in which he quoted John Farmer Jr., Chief Counsel to the 9/11 commission, as saying: “The US Government made a decision not to tell the truth about what happened”. And 6 out of the 10 9/11 Commission members have gone on record since to admit there was a US Government cover-up.
Higgy and class’ response? “There are some serious nutcases out there”. So the majority of the 9/11 commission members are “nut cases” are they? And I suppose the 2000 architects and engineers who say the Government is lying, that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition, are also "nut cases", I suppose. Right Government shills? Have you no shame?
Louie
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funwithmusic
Chapel Hill, NC
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THE PYRAMID...THE TOWER OF BABYLON
THE 9/11 VIDEO THAT AIRED ONCE..AND WAS NEVER AIRED AGAIN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Bn_CC_mrg
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9/11 Death Ray Conspiracy Theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT1i6bTaa0g
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YEA...DUH....DA PLANE DA PLANE...DA PLANE DID IT..
ANYONE THAT BELIEVES THE 'OFFICIAL BULLSHIT STORY" needs his brain examined...or hes a traitor..up to no good..here trying to bullshit us into falling for his "FABLES" ..
BOOK OF TITUS CHAPTER ONE..- Pay no attention to Jewish Fables...
God warned us about this dishonest lying people..
WE KNOW THE ZIONIST DID THIS.THE EVIDENCE POINTS RIGHT AT ISRA-HELL...WERE NOT STUPID..!
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funwithmusic
Chapel Hill, NC
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Bluecougereyes, has, in another thread, some excellent posts in which he quoted John Farmer Jr., Chief Counsel to the 9/11 commission, as saying: “The US Government made a decision not to tell the truth about what happened”. And 6 out of the 10 9/11 Commission members have gone on record since to admit there was a US Government cover-up.
Higgy and class’ response? “There are some serious nutcases out there”. So the majority of the 9/11 commission members are “nut cases” are they? And I suppose the 2000 architects and engineers who say the Government is lying, that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition, are also "nut cases", I suppose. Right Government shills? Have you no shame?
Louie
The AMERICAN POLITICIANS ARE CONTROLLED BY DEMONIC ZIONIST JEWS..who threaten
their lvies...and that of their children if they do not comply..THEY HAVE
BEEN TOLD NON-SCRIPTURAL FAIRY TALES...to convince them that the world is almost
over..SO WHAT THE HELL..GO FOR IT....
ARMEGEDDON ALREADY HAPPENED ..IF YOU WILL READ ZECHARIAH..it tells you it happens
in the days of Christ...not thousands of years later..
OUR POLITICIANS have been FORCED BY THE MANY ZIONIST ISRA-HELLLIES IN OUR
GOV to COVER UP JEWISH ATTACKS ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. ((Dont forget the
Isra-hellie attacks on the USS LIBERTY..and the many false flags lately
designed to destroy THE 2ND AMENDMENT..))
WHEN THE AMERICANS LEARN WHO REALLY DID WTC 9/11..THERE IS GOING TO BE
ANOTHER 'EXODUS'...and they are not ready to leave AMERICA YET
Dont you all know..that AMERICA IS THE NEW BRITISH EMPIRE..The CIA is the
ROthschild Banksters agency to keep an eye on us..from within the gov..
THEY ARE USING OUR CHILDREN'S BLOOD..TO ACHIEVE THEIR BABYLONIAN TALMUDIC
KABBLAIST GOALS OF 'RULING THE WORLD'..AND FORCING US TO PAY FOR JEWISH GLOBAL
AGENDAS by taxing us...
THE IRS COLLECTS SECRET KOSHER TAXES.. and collects UN-CONSTITUTIONAL
INCOME TAXES..PROVING THAT THE JEWS ARE LOOTING AMERICANS...RE-DISTRIBUTING
AMERICAN WEALTH TO ELITE JEWS.
THE NEW WORLD ORDER...IS JEWISH..ITS TAUGHT FROM THE BABYLON TALAMUD.
.And when people learn this...and get this through their heads...ALL HELL
WILL BREAK LOOSE FOR THE TALMUDISTS
SYNAGOGUES WILL BE DESTROYED
THE BABYLON TALMUD AND THE KABBALAH AND ZOHAR..WILL BE BURNED...AND BANNED
FOREVERN FROM PLANET EARTH
That is why they needed NON SCRIPTURAL...ISRA-HELL...They made up a FAIRY
TALE..in order to create a land for GLOBAL CRIMINAL JEWS...ISRAHELL IS
THE NEW MEXICAN HIDEOUT FOR CRIMINALS AND THIEVES..
THE BIBLE CALLS JERUSALEM..THE HOME OF DEVILS..AND VILE SPIRITS!
REVELATION 11:8, 17:1, 17:18, 18:10, 18:2-3, 18:4, 18:23-24
IT CANT BE ANY MORE CLEAR THAN THIS...These scriptures were written over
2,000 years ago..and yet...they are true...just as prophesied...
And you say there is no God.......rubbish..hes proven his existance
over and over...Your just blinded by your sick religion..and its many crimes
against humanity.
THE BIBLE ALSO PREDICTS IN ZECHARIAH..AND REVELATION..THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD.
.ATTACK JERUSALEM..AND DESTROY IT!!!
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57channels
Bettendorf, IA
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Louie
Bluecougereyes, has, in another thread, some excellent posts in which he quoted John Farmer Jr., Chief Counsel to the 9/11 commission, as saying: “The US Government made a decision not to tell the truth about what happened”. And 6 out of the 10 9/11 Commission members have gone on record since to admit there was a US Government cover-up.
Higgy and class’ response? “There are some serious nutcases out there”. So the majority of the 9/11 commission members are “nut cases” are they? And I suppose the 2000 architects and engineers who say the Government is lying, that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition, are also "nut cases", I suppose. Right Government shills? Have you no shame?
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The only response you will get from the shills is something like " Ive already answered your dumb question " or we've been all over that 10 times now........when its never been addressed in any spewcific terms at all. Alot of blah blah blah. class will use some big words nobody understands though
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57channels
Bettendorf, IA
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Fun
YEA...DUH....DA PLANE DA PLANE...DA PLANE DID IT..
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Some people actually believe that a real plane hit the south tower I guess those same people think King Kong really climbed the Empire State building
Left wing dissappears, then left wing is seen behind building far away when it should have been in front of far away building, plane lands inside tower basically, nothing breaks off plane or tower, nose comes out the other side, nose penetrates all perimeter steel columns and inner core columns and comes out the other side
Is it a bird, a plane?? No its SUPERPLANE.....the INVISBLE PLANE THAT HAS ALL THE CHARACTERISTICS OF TRAVELING AT 10x mACH SPEED OR A ZILLION MILES AN HOUR
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naprinciple
West Plains, MO
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I don't know if planes hit the towers or not, but 2 things for sure. Planes didn't reach the speeds claimed at that low of an altitude, and the videos shown on TV were manipulated.
It doesn't prove no planes flew, but certainly doesn't hurt that argument.
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Bettendorf, IA
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NA
It doesn't prove no planes flew, but certainly doesn't hurt that argument.
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1. The media is always right there on the spot when any tragedy happens here in Merica. 2. The media was in on the false flag attack with CGI images and holograms added to the live feed. 3. The media would have sent camera crews to film the debri that fell from the alleged plane hitting the towers.........within minutes knowing full well they had 45 minutes to get out of there before the towers got nuked. 4. More solid proof that no real plane hit either tower or we the people would have seen parts of a wing or tail section on the ground------proving Flight 175 hit the south tower 5. Instead we have botched CGI images of a plane, lousy hologram video fakery, no black boxes, no Pratt Whitney engines, no serial # parts of any of the 4 planes-- except planted phony pieces on the roof of #5 and the planted pieces at the Pentacon.
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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From the video's comments:
" I worked as an industrial welder for years and often used acetylene cutting torches to cut thick metal. (Not the more recent innovations with thermite cutters mentioned.) Every time I saw this photo I was immediately reminded of that process, though thermite charges seemed almost as likely to produce such a result. The ridges in the cut and the slag is very typical. So I will readily back the claim that it was part of the cleanup process and that our focus should be elsewhere when it comes to solid evidence -- unless of course this photo was from Sept 11 or before cleanup crews were at work. Regarding the angled cut, for anyone who has felled a tree, this angle on vertical beams will come as no surprise. It is a way of controlling the weight and tendency to fall. It was surely not a way of working around obstructions, and yes, it is more material to cut, but safety for the cleanup worker would be the primary concern, so it is no coincidence that all those cut beams show a similar cut, designed to contain chaos."
I know a welder who will vilify that opinion until a blood vessel gives out.
9/11 truth, disagreeing with itself for over 14 years.
Were still waiting shill on how that cleanup crew at ground zero removed the top section of that column from the bottom section with the 45 degree cut in the photo without cutting completely thru it.How did they pull that off,with magic? You sound real confident and sure of yourself in last posts so answering this question should be no problem for ya. Answer my question or i will have to join 9/11 truth and see what they have to say about it as well as answer my other questions that you failures lack answering
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srv63
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012
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From the video's comments:
" I worked as an industrial welder for years and often used acetylene cutting torches to cut thick metal. (Not the more recent innovations with thermite cutters mentioned.) Every time I saw this photo I was immediately reminded of that process, though thermite charges seemed almost as likely to produce such a result. The ridges in the cut and the slag is very typical. So I will readily back the claim that it was part of the cleanup process and that our focus should be elsewhere when it comes to solid evidence -- unless of course this photo was from Sept 11 or before cleanup crews were at work. Regarding the angled cut, for anyone who has felled a tree, this angle on vertical beams will come as no surprise. It is a way of controlling the weight and tendency to fall. It was surely not a way of working around obstructions, and yes, it is more material to cut, but safety for the cleanup worker would be the primary concern, so it is no coincidence that all those cut beams show a similar cut, designed to contain chaos."
I know a welder who will vilify that opinion until a blood vessel gives out.
9/11 truth, disagreeing with itself for over 14 years.
Here's a snippit from the exact webpage that you got your horseshit lies from that you posted above shill. My posting is clearly from a seasoned welder as myself while the idiots statement that you posted is CLEARLY A PAID SHILL LIKE YOUR PATHETIC SELF.Now read what a REAL WELDER has to say about that huge column at ground zero with the 45 degree cut.Read it and weep ....
"I too am a welder fabricator...For thirty years. I also worked as an iron worker. The slag is on the outside which rules out a torch cut. I would use a lance,sometimes called a burning bar. It would explain the slag on the outside . As for the fallen tree theory. You don't try an drop steel like this. For safety sake you would attach a choker via crane or large track hoe. You would not waste time with an angled cut.. The equipment used would direct the fall.
If they did try to use this angled method for direction control (which is unsafe as hell) You would only cut the sides and the back of the column. This would show the inside of the column bent , and torn.
There is only one explaination for the slag on the outside of the column, and the diagonal cut.
CUTTER CHARGES.............PERIOD."
Submitted by WISDOM on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 12:48pm.
God it must suck being a deceptive piece of shit
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srv63
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012
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From the video's comments:
" I worked as an industrial welder for years and often used acetylene cutting torches to cut thick metal. (Not the more recent innovations with thermite cutters mentioned.) Every time I saw this photo I was immediately reminded of that process, though thermite charges seemed almost as likely to produce such a result. The ridges in the cut and the slag is very typical. So I will readily back the claim that it was part of the cleanup process and that our focus should be elsewhere when it comes to solid evidence -- unless of course this photo was from Sept 11 or before cleanup crews were at work. Regarding the angled cut, for anyone who has felled a tree, this angle on vertical beams will come as no surprise. It is a way of controlling the weight and tendency to fall. It was surely not a way of working around obstructions, and yes, it is more material to cut, but safety for the cleanup worker would be the primary concern, so it is no coincidence that all those cut beams show a similar cut, designed to contain chaos."
I know a welder who will vilify that opinion until a blood vessel gives out.
9/11 truth, disagreeing with itself for over 14 years.
Here's a snippit from the exact webpage that you got your horseshit lies from that you posted above shill. My posting is clearly from a seasoned welder as myself while the idiots statement that you posted is CLEARLY A PAID SHILL LIKE YOUR PATHETIC SELF.Now read what a REAL WELDER has to say about that huge column at ground zero with the 45 degree cut.Read it and weep ....
"I too am a welder fabricator...For thirty years. I also worked as an iron worker. The slag is on the outside which rules out a torch cut. I would use a lance,sometimes called a burning bar. It would explain the slag on the outside . As for the fallen tree theory. You don't try an drop steel like this. For safety sake you would attach a choker via crane or large track hoe. You would not waste time with an angled cut.. The equipment used would direct the fall.
If they did try to use this angled method for direction control (which is unsafe as hell) You would only cut the sides and the back of the column. This would show the inside of the column bent , and torn.
There is only one explaination for the slag on the outside of the column, and the diagonal cut.
CUTTER CHARGES.............PERIOD."
Submitted by WISDOM on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 12:48pm.
Copied from http://911blogger.com/news/2008-10-11/angled-cut-column-explained
Now what do you have to say now dumbf**k?
God it must suck being a deceptive jew piece of shit
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9/14/2015 3:58:13 PM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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Here's a very short video from the same website that the shill, noclass got his lying wannabe welders statement from that the worthless shill failed to share with us because this video debunks his "no controlled demolition" bullshit.Start video at 2:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DlkWFDiYgig
Watch and weep shills
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9/14/2015 4:10:20 PM |
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57channels
Bettendorf, IA
64, joined May. 2008
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NA
It doesn't prove no planes flew, but certainly doesn't hurt that argument.
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Gotta ask " Don't you think a camera crew or two would have filmed the fallen debri from Flight 175 if Flight 175 really crashed into the south tower??? Then of course.......got out of there promptly knowing the towers were gonna get nuked or collapsed or pulverized or dusticized??? The media is always there........in fact the first few minutes is when we the people actually hear a little truth ----- like when Jamie McIntyre was right at the scene at the Pentagon and said no plane pieces, nothing like a plane.
Then of course......later had to change his story or downplay it, like the fire chief and many others.
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9/14/2015 4:31:15 PM |
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progrocknic
Mount Arlington, NJ
31, joined Dec. 2012
online now!
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I don't know if planes hit the towers or not, but 2 things for sure. Planes didn't reach the speeds claimed at that low of an altitude, and the videos shown on TV were manipulated.
We've been over this. Unless you can explain how a 767 can't hit those speeds at that altitude, you're simply incorrect. They have more than enough power and at those speeds, control and structural integrity aren't even an issue.
The videos I've seen haven't been manipulated. Not sure which ones you've seen but I often advise people against watching their tv.
It doesn't prove no planes flew, but certainly doesn't hurt that argument.
Nothing will prove there were no planes because there were planes. 4 planes taking flight and crashing that day is a fact.
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9/14/2015 4:58:57 PM |
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class5
Queensland
Australia
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HAHAHAHA F**KINHAHA. YOU ARE ONE STUPID F**KIN IDIOT POSTING THAT BULLSHIT.
So you can't discount the content of the video, so you ignore it and focus on a comment I put up by a truther.
You should really watch the video as it blows your contention regarding the cut column out of the water.
You won't. 9/11 truth is only interested in evasion and diversion and objectivity be damned!
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class5
Queensland
Australia
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Higgy and class’ response? “There are some serious nutcases out there”.
True.
So the majority of the 9/11 commission members are “nut cases” are they?
No, and they were proud of their efforts.
And I suppose the 2000 architects and engineers who say the Government is lying, that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition, are also "nut cases", I suppose.
There are not 2,000 architects and engineers in AE911T. They make up less than .01% of ythe engineering and architectural community. Yes, they are nutcases.
Right Government shills? Have you no shame?
Louie
Back to your Islamic handler shill! Go become a suicide bomber in Yemen and fulfil your destiny traitor!
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9/14/2015 5:06:58 PM |
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class5
Queensland
Australia
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class will use some big words nobody understands though
No, I use words that educated people understand.
There's a vast difference. Go back to Mecca, Shill!
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9/14/2015 5:09:50 PM |
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class5
Queensland
Australia
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Were still waiting shill on how that cleanup crew at ground zero removed the top section of that column from the bottom section with the 45 degree cut in the photo without cutting completely thru it.How did they pull that off,with magic? You sound real confident and sure of yourself in last posts so answering this question should be no problem for ya. Answer my question or i will have to join 9/11 truth and see what they have to say about it as well as answer my other questions that you failures lack answering
Here you go Muhummad:
https://youtu.be/DlkWFDiYgig
Watch it and get back to me when you've done it. I'm not interested in your jihadi propagenda, Shill!
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9/14/2015 5:10:25 PM |
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class5
Queensland
Australia
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Here's a snippit from the exact webpage that you got your horseshit lies from that you posted above shill. My posting is clearly from a seasoned welder as myself while the idiots statement that you posted is CLEARLY A PAID SHILL LIKE YOUR PATHETIC SELF.Now read what a REAL WELDER has to say about that huge column at ground zero with the 45 degree cut.Read it and weep ....
"I too am a welder fabricator...For thirty years. I also worked as an iron worker. The slag is on the outside which rules out a torch cut. I would use a lance,sometimes called a burning bar. It would explain the slag on the outside . As for the fallen tree theory. You don't try an drop steel like this. For safety sake you would attach a choker via crane or large track hoe. You would not waste time with an angled cut.. The equipment used would direct the fall.
If they did try to use this angled method for direction control (which is unsafe as hell) You would only cut the sides and the back of the column. This would show the inside of the column bent , and torn.
There is only one explaination for the slag on the outside of the column, and the diagonal cut.
CUTTER CHARGES.............PERIOD."
Submitted by WISDOM on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 12:48pm.
God it must suck being a deceptive piece of shit
Watch the video you Jihadi trash:
https://youtu.be/DlkWFDiYgig
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9/14/2015 5:11:53 PM |
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class5
Queensland
Australia
52, joined Jan. 2014
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Here's a very short video from the same website that the shill, noclass got his lying wannabe welders statement from that the worthless shill failed to share with us because this video debunks his "no controlled demolition" bullshit.Start video at 2:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DlkWFDiYgig
Watch and weep shills
You still can't explain the video:
https://youtu.be/DlkWFDiYgig
All your Jihadi tricks don't amount to shit, Shill! You're just Anti-American scum!
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9/14/2015 5:24:07 PM |
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class5
Queensland
Australia
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SRV, it is known that a thermite lance was used in the area of the clean up in question.
The 45 degree angle cut was shown to be the product of a thermite lance in the clean-up.
This is all in the video you refuse to watch, and then you keep braying about it.
You are obviously an ISIS shill and scum.
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9/14/2015 6:30:51 PM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012
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No, I use words that educated people understand.
There's a vast difference. Go back to Mecca, Shill!
You use big fancy assed words that only snobby assed fancy b*tches use trying to outsmart and impress each other.The kind of shit society that the rest of us wanna smack the shit out of.
To call 57 a shill, tells me you have no clue on its meaning. Go look the word up fancy pants and to your surprise will find a pic of your mug there.
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9/14/2015 6:38:16 PM |
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class5
Queensland
Australia
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You use big fancy assed words that only snobby assed fancy b*tches use trying to outsmart and impress each other.The kind of shit society that the rest of us wanna smack the shit out of.
LOLOL. You really are a pathetic piece of human trash, Mustapha. Go back to Damascus and play with fertilizer you Jihadi shill.
To call 57 a shill, tells me you have no clue on its meaning. Go look the word up fancy pants and to your surprise will find a pic of your mug there.
Shut up Shill and go pray to your god. There's a drone with your name on it Jihadi trash.
I spit on all of you Jihadi scum.
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9/14/2015 6:43:04 PM |
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57channels
Bettendorf, IA
64, joined May. 2008
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SRV
To call 57 a shill, tells me you have no clue on its meaning. Go look the word up fancy pants and to your surprise will find a pic of your mug there.
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Didn't you know that you and I and Louie and Fun and Long and NA and all truthers are Arab stoolie shills??? Didn't you get your check from the Bin Ladens Id bet the store Bin Laden never lived to see the year 2003.....but were told the Navy Seals killed him a few years ago. Of course....the perps got rid of those navy seals I'm guessing because the body was not Bin Laden. Like the perps gte rid of everyone that doesn't back of the official lie...at least anyone of any notoriety.
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9/14/2015 6:49:45 PM |
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57channels
Bettendorf, IA
64, joined May. 2008
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SRV
Hey........the sheeple/rabble called the greatest POTUS ever [ JFK ] a Communist simply because he wanted to make peace with the Soviet Union and make Israel tone down its nuclear ambitions which is also a very peaceful motive. theres alot of other things...but lets leave it at that.
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juma2112
Wheat Ridge, CO
50, joined Jan. 2011
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U mean like he and his fathers admiration of the Nazis?
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57channels
Bettendorf, IA
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juma
U mean like he and his fathers admiration of the Nazis?
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Lets not get Patriots [Kennedy's] mixed up with traitorous murderers like the Bush's
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