The onus is on the government to put together a cogent theory, and they gave us Swiss cheese

I spent 7 years under the spell of the 911 myth. Time and time again people would show me evidence, and I was completely unable to see it. At some point the government overloaded my credibility reservoir, and now I can't unsee it. The government hires sockpuppets to keep people from reaching that tipping point, where the propaganda loses its efficacy, and people start asking questions things for themselves.


I wish I knew how to bring people to that point, but I know for , people like you stand in the way of it

Pretty sad excuse I must say, in that a great majority of evidence that proved and continues to prove 911 was executed by 19 terrorists, was contributed by numerous scientists, engineers, scholars, etc, who were not only non-citizens of the U.S., but had little vested in its national security. Funny how that suddenly gets in the way of you answering my previous question regarding the NIST report.

Follow orders= don't ask questions= root for your favorite mafiosi point shaving nfl and college football team= soon you will be told to turn in your guns so the big bad Arabs dont break into your house and steal them

Posted on March 12, 2015 by WashingtonsBlog
9/11 Commissioners Admit They Never Got the Full Story

The 9/11 Commissioners publicly expressed anger at cover ups and obstructions of justice by the government into a real 9/11 investigation:

9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says “I don’t believe for a minute we got everything right”, that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, and that the 9/11 debate should continue

The 9/11 Commission chair said the Commission was “set up to fail”

The Commission’s co-chairs said that the CIA (and likely the White House) “obstructed our investigation”

9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that “There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn’t have access . . . .”

9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said “We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting”

9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: “It is a national scandal”; “This investigation is now compromised”; and “One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up”. When asked in 2009 if he thought there should be another 9/11 commission, Cleland responded: “There should be about fifteen 9/11 commissions”

The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) – who led the 9/11 staff’s inquiry – said “At some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened“. He also said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”

No wonder the Co-Chair of the congressional investigation into 9/11 – Bob Graham – and 9/11 Commissioner and former Senator Bob Kerrey are calling for either a “PERMANENT 9/11 commission” or a new 9/11 investigation to get to the bottom of it.

Some examples of obstruction of justice into the 9/11 investigation include:

An FBI informant hosted and rented a room to two hijackers in 2000. Specifically, investigators for the Congressional Joint Inquiry discovered that an FBI informant had hosted and even rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House. As the New York Times notes:

Senator Bob Graham, the Florida Democrat who is a former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, accused the White House on Tuesday of covering up evidence ….The accusation stems from the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s refusal to allow investigators for a Congressional inquiry and the independent Sept. 11 commission to interview an informant, Abdussattar Shaikh, who had been the landlord in San Diego of two Sept. 11 hijackers.

The chairs of both the 9/11 Commission and the Official Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 said that Soviet-style government “minders” obstructed the investigation into 9/11 by intimidating witnesses (and see this)

The 9/11 Commissioners concluded that officials from the Pentagon lied to the Commission, and considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements

The tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was intentionally destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the tape into little pieces, and then dropping the pieces in different trash cans around the building as shown by this NY Times article (summary version is free; full version is pay-per-view) and by this article from the Chicago Sun-Times

As reported by ACLU, FireDogLake, RawStory and many others, declassified documents shows that Senior Bush administration officials sternly cautioned the 9/11 Commission against probing too deeply into the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001

Both the 9/11 Commission Investigation and 9/11 Trials Were Based on Unreliable Evidence Produced by Torture

The CIA videotaped the interrogation of 9/11 suspects, falsely told the 9/11 Commission that there were no videotapes or other records of the interrogations, and then illegally destroyed all of the tapes and transcripts of the interrogations.

9/11 Commission co-chairs Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton wrote:

Those who knew about those videotapes — and did not tell us about them — obstructed our investigation.

The chief lawyer for Guantanamo litigation – Vijay Padmanabhan – said that torture of 9/11 suspects was widespread.

And Susan J. Crawford – the senior Pentagon official overseeing the military commissions at Guantánamo told Bob Woodward:

We tortured Qahtani. His treatment met the legal definition of torture.

Indeed, some of the main sources of information were tortured right up to the point of death.

Moreover, the type of torture used by the U.S. on the Guantanamo suspects is of a special type. Senator Levin revealed that the the U.S. used Communist torture techniques specifically aimed at creating false confessions. (and see this, this, this and this).

And according to NBC News:

Much of the 9/11 Commission Report was based upon the testimony of people who were tortured

At least four of the people whose interrogation figured in the 9/11 Commission Report have claimed that they told interrogators information as a way to stop being “tortured”

One of the Commission’s main sources of information was tortured until he agreed to sign a confession that he was NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO READ

The 9/11 Commission itself doubted the accuracy of the torture confessions, and yet kept their doubts to themselves

If the 9/11 Commissioners themselves doubt the information from the government, why should we believe it?

Could it be he's eaten too much cheese?

The 9/11 Commission Didn’t Believe the Government … So Why Should We? Much of the 9/11 Commission Report was based upon the testimony of people who were tortured

If they did it, they are dead. If they didn't, they deserve to be off the hook What are you afraid of?

Talk about sophistry.

The onus is on the government to put together a cogent theory, and they gave us Swiss cheese

I am convinced you are satisfied with the NIST report. I have no desire to try to convince you otherwise

Very well said

If 9/11 was not an inside job then why do the scumbags in government feel the need to have paid shills be present on EVERY SINGLE BLOG/FORUM to dispute the truth, this forum included?

What's the cost of selling your souls nowadays shills? Can you honestly say you deserve respect from others? I didn't think so

Too bad the vast majority of professionals all agree that nist is a joke and a fairy tell. Any group of morons (nist) that claim that WTC7 was not part of the tragedy of 9/11 therefore not (cartoon) investigating it, deserve no respect whatsover and deserve the title of treasonous cowards, much the same as a bought off shill molester

Look at us truthers, not once will you see two truthers anywhere on the web agreeing 100% on every single event of 9/11 because it's IMPOSSIBLE.

I spent 7 years under the spell of the 911 myth. Time and time again people would show me evidence, and I was completely unable to see it.

At some point the government overloaded my credibility reservoir, and now I can't unsee it. The government hires sockpuppets to keep people from reaching that tipping point, where the propaganda loses its efficacy, and people start asking questions about things they're told. With honest curiosity, not merely confirmation bias.

I wish I knew how to bring people to that point, but I know for sure, people like you stand in the way of it

And what truth do you have that tiny office fires brought down 3 buildings in one day?

Explain to us why a raging inferno (below) still couldn't bring down that building after burning 24 hours in madrid



Damn, that stubborn fire was an INFERNO (not tiny office fires)and burned for over 24 hours but never collapsed. Gee, maybe they needed to borrow silversteins demolition team

Face it you antisemic moron, there are no secret masters pulling the strings, its a wide swath of the american public pulling the strings. We like Israel because they are nice people that share a great many of our values. Most of their foes are also our foes as well. Got anything to say for that? Or is the fact the Holocaust really happened too much for you to handle?

What truth is there in 57channels claims of holograms and secret orbs srv63?

Silverstein had no authority to direct any operations. You're being stupid again. Stop that!

Because no planes flew into the Madrid Windsor Tower.

http://www.911myths.com/html/madrid_windsor_tower.html

Are you willing to overtly reject Tragic's assertion that the Madrid tower remained standing due to no plane striking it?