You want me to explain what Jennings meant when he said " He said he broke a window, looked left and they were still standing, looked right and they had gone." I don't know what that means yet, guess i have a bit more research to do do figure it out. By the way, what makes you think that he was only on the north side of WTC7 the whole time?

Btw higgy, why does Barry Jennings mention in his testimony that after the stairs exploded out from under him on the 6th floor then he worked his way up to the 8th floor then he says it was "VERY,VERY,HOT". WTC7 has not caught on fire yet higgy so what the hell was going on on the 8th floor that made it so damn hot that Barry Jennings was fixing to risk killing himself to throwing the firehose out of the window so that he could climb down it to safety?
Lets hear it higgy. If you don't know the answer then ask that jew that signs your paycheck because i really would like the answer. Could the 8th floor have been one of the floors where the thermite was used to sever the main columns in WTC7 that held up the building?That's what i'm thinking

The Pentagon has now publicly admitted that 8 trillion dollars are missing from its account.

higgy

Really?

Please provide a link to confirm this audacious lie.

I am sure we won't see you for a few weeks, we never do when you are requested to back up your "posts".
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That was funny, I got to admit. The important thing is Louie is a Patriot though

To ALL of the deceptive, lying shills,

Since none of you CANNOT debunk Barry Jennings on his eyewitness testimony that proves WTC1 could not have caused any fires in WTC7, your bullshit nist report as well as yourselves are officially debunked and i'm not debating that subject anymore unless you come up with CONCRETE EVIDENCE to the contrary.

Now a very simple question for you shills.Did the main columns in WTC1 as well as WTC2 bend or melt when supposedly weakened by the fires in the buildings? Answer cautiously because yes, there's another debunking coming

It happened exactly the way the 9/11 commissions said it did.

The government is 100% truthful.

Seeings how there were no burning vehicles until after WTC 1 had collapsed, it's unlikely either Jennings or Hess had broken a window on the 8th floor before that time, thus, Jennings testimony doesn't prove anything other than his inability to match the exact time he arrived at WTC7 with the events that followed afterwards.

It is a known fact neither WTC1 or WTC2 had collapsed due to melting of their steel columns, but rather, it was the softening of them that led to their collapse. Linky...

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/jom/0112/eagar/eagar-0112.html

I love it how truthers always end their discussion with a ?.

Yes, please do try to explain what he meant about looking left and still standing and looking right and gone, please do.

VERY VERY HOT? I have listened to your video's and read transcripts and guess what srv? NOT ONCE did I hear him say those words, not once. So, please provide information on your claim, thank you.

No, thermite wasn't used in any circumstances.

Were still waiting on an answer

Now it's time to use logic. Is there any reason for Barry Jennings to be stuck on only the 8th floor for them hours that he was trapped inside WTC7? Did he in any interview state that he was trapped ONLY on the 8th floor all that time? The answer is no. Why would he focus his efforts of escaping mainly on the 8th floor, could it be that it was closest to the ground in order for the firehose he had in the building to be able to reach the ground in order to escape the building? I'm sure after brief times on the 8th floor the heat would get too unbearable therefore forcing him and mr hess back up to the higher floors. Does this LOGIC make sense to you? So you see, Barry Jennings DID NOT lie.

As far as the thermite, no doubt there were thousands of pounds of it to take all three buildings down.Do you think the jew that leased the WTC complex cared how much thermite was needed or the cost when he stood to make BILLIONS off of the buildings collapse?

What a ignorant post. Had thousands of pounds of thermite been utilized to bring down either structures the evidence would have been overwhelming.

Anymore ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

The Pentagon has now publicly admitted that 8 trillion dollars are missing from its account.

On Barclay St.?



Clearly, you're just making shit up as you go along.

If your suggesting that thermite doesn't have any explosive characteristics then you are not familiar with it either.

Apparently your shill buddy parrot will disagree and think your an idiot

Thermite WAS found in the dust debris by outside scientists so you shills cannot deny it.

I don't remember seeing you proving the study was fake

What video shows Jennings saying Barclay street? I'm sure Jennings was looking out of windows on all four sides of the building. You do need to ease up on the deception

Hardly surprising. You're more interested in being a douche than actually paying attention to the evidence being posted. Chris Mohr debated Richard Gage on numerous occasions and produced a 23 video series than refutes all the claims of Jones, Harritt and Farer. These pseudo-scientists used samples of unknown origin and used test that gave them the result they wanted. Chris Mohr raised funds for further testing done independently by MVA using samples of known provenance and showed that the 'thermite residue' claimed by Jones and Harritt etc. was nothing more than rust proofing.

I've posted the video and TragicParrot has posted links to the entire series IIRC.




So, since you think you're an expert, how do you account for the thermite charges surviving the temperatures of the fires at the impact points? After all, that was where they needed to be triggered in order to produce the collapse sequence we all know.

The thicker the steel of each column, the more thermite used to turn the steel to liquid.

What video shows Jennings saying Barclay street? I'm sure Jennings was looking out of windows on all four sides of the building. You do need to ease up on the deception

We have his word on the video you keep posting that he was looking out of the window and saw cars and buses on fire ..............the window was on the north side of the WTC7 and that faces Barclay Street.

So how did these buses and cars catch fire if not from the collapse of the Towers?


Mmmmmm, interesting.

One key thing that you fail/refuse to accept, is that Barry Jennings was already on his way to work when getting the call that WTC1 was just hit by a cessna aircraft.That call was made to him between 8:50am and 8:55am. Barry Jennings already testified that traffic that morning was "excellent", meaning no delays. Anyone with common sense would know that "the call" would make any normal person even speed up a bit to get to work to man the OEM office. Since we don't know whether or not Barry was closest to home or closest to work at the time of the call, we are going to settle for the midpoint unless you shills want to dispute that. That midpoint makes Barry Jennings arriving at WTC7 by NO LATER than 9:20AM.

Arrives at WTC7 at 9:20AM and sees lots of cops in lobby

Arrives at 23rd floor at 9:25AM but can't get in

Goes back down to lobby where cops accompany him in freight elevator back to 23rd floor and this time he gets into OEM.Time now is 9:35AM

Barry sees evidence of people recently there but him and mr hess can't find anyone so they start making phone calls and someone tells them to get out of the building immediately.Time now is 9:45AM

Barry Jennings and hess quickly head for the stairs and are skipping stairs as they are running and get down to the 6th floor then EXPLOSION wipes out the stairwell out from underneath Barry Jennings feet leaving him dangling and holding onto the guardrail.Time now 9:48AM

To the senile, easily confused and blind higgy:



Now call me a liar and say that i NEVER furnished my timeline for Barry Jennings.F**k off now

Yes, I stand corrected, he did say that.

He also said he was trapped in there for several hours.

Tell one lie, brings the rest into question doesn't it?

Thermite, you would need circa 100lbs of thermite to even begin to melt ONE column.

I do enjoy the simple things in life, that is possibly why I like you, you are sthe simplest of them all.

Frank Ucciardo: That’s right, I’m standing here just off Broadway by City Hall with Mike Hess who is the City Corporation Counsel. Mr. Hess, you were trapped in, I believe, 7 World Trade Center. Go ahead, sir.

Michael Hess: Yes, I was. I was up in the Emergency Management Center on the 23rd floor. And when all the power went out in the building, another gentleman and I walked down to the eighth floor where there was an explosion, and left us trapped on the eighth floor with smoke, thick smoke all around us for about an hour and a half. But the New York Fire Department, terrific as they are, just came and got us out.

As David Ray Griffin points out in his August 2009 revision began at 11:57, so my citation of the NIST 12:10-12:15 rescue time for Hess and Barry Jennings couldn’t be right. So, mea culpa!

However, the time is not that far off, and the interview certainly isn’t the death blow to the official timeline it’s imagined to be. The interview is “off Broadway by City Hall.” The general area is three blocks or so from Building 7. And Hess says that the fire department “just came and got us out.” His inflection is clear. He’s talking about having been rescued not long before the interview. An hour and a half before noon is about 10:30, which is consistent with the “explosion” being the WTC 1 debris hitting the building.

The interview start at 11:57 and guess what srv? IT WAS LIVE, A LIVE INTERVIEW. So he was just being interviewed just after having been trapped for "about 1 1/2 hours", constant with the collpase of the Towers at the time he and Jennings reached the 8th floor.

AGAIN, i will ask you a SIMPLE SIMPLE question higgy,

Quote from srv63:
VERY VERY SIMPLE question for even you higgy.What time do YOU think Barry Jennings arrived at WTC7 and what time did he finally leave the building?

Will you finally answer the question?

No, the point I was making was the amount that was needed for just ONE column, 100lbs.

Can't you see how stupid you are? To thermite EVERY column, they would need an incredible amount of thermite to be laid around each column, that is why we say it is stupid and ridiculous, to even think that could bring in tonnes of thermite, place it around the base of each column and then ignite it is plain stupid to even think about.


All of us who are against you are in agreement that NO thermite was used. END of story.

Well, seeing that he and Hess were together, one would anticipate that they were rescued together and according to the time of the live tv recording at 11:57, it would be have been just before that and, according to Hess, had been TRAPPED in there for 1 1/2 hours. Now the word TRAPPED is the key word srv, prior to the 'explosion' they were NOT TRAPPED, they were hopping, skipping their merry way down the stairs (according to you with Jennings saying that), they were not TRAPPED, they were free and easy and enjoying being able to see and breathe...UNTIL B A N G the 'explosion' and the collapse if the sixth floor.

Suddenly, black smoke, unable to see and unable to go anywhere, they WERE TRAPPED.

90 minutes later (about), Hess was talking to a reporter on LIVE TV.

AQs to what time Jennings and Hess arrived at the WTC? After the evacuation of the OEM and the WTC which would have been around 9.45 as an educated guess. Don't forget srv, WTC 7 was EMPTY, save the triage being establish to cater for the evacuation of North and South Towers.

With that point in mind, they arrived AFTER the building was evacuated and with the proof that Hess was on LIVE tv at 11:57, it is safe to assume that they had both been rescued a few minutes before that time.

I hope that answers your question Srv. They were in the building around 9.45 to around 11.55. TRAPPED at around 10.30 - consistent with the collapse of the Tower.

They were NOT in there for SEVERAL hours as claimed by Jennings.

Have we started on the Chinese explosion conspiracy yet?

did I miss it?

the one where we launched the "Gods beam" down from space on the military depot due to the Chinese devaluing their currency?

No comments srv?

Does this time frame seem far more logical (and truthful) than yours?