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8/4/2015 9:24:54 AM  

srv63
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Quote from higgy51:
This is great, this idiot is calling people with NOTHING to do with 9/11 on either side, just chosen by me at random from the results of a google search into diesel exploding, bu to this "EXPERT" we have here, they are a crock of shit!

He doesn't understand that diesel ITSELF does NOT explode or catch fire, it only does so when it has some VAPOR to it, as already explained to him by those experts chosen at random via google!

Diesel fuel DOES NOT EXPLODE AT 100 degrees you fool, you are devoid of reading skills, they never said that at all, they said it BEGINS TO VAPORIZE! Will you learn to f**king read you dumb shit?

If YOU had ever been inside a mechanical room, you will have notice air-conditioning, not to mention mechanical floors require external vents or louvers for ventilation and heat rejection....ergo, they aren't in danger of over-heating.

Then he goes on to talk about diesel exploding on a freeway! This man is so stupid it's beyond all recognition! He isn't aware that diesel fuel needs to reach a certain heat before anything will happen and that diesel being transported is cooled.

Here you go srv, some BASIC info for you to try to read!


----------------------------------------------------------

"Diesel fuel flash points vary between 52 and 96 °C (126 and 205 °F). "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_point

How can flammable and combustible liquids be a fire or explosion hazard?

At normal room temperatures, flammable liquids can give off enough vapour to form burnable mixtures with air. As a result, they can be a serious fire hazard. Flammable liquid fires burn very fast. They also give off a lot of heat and often clouds of thick, black, toxic smoke.

Combustible liquids at temperatures above their flashpoint also release enough vapour to form burnable mixtures with air. Hot combustible liquids can be as serious a fire hazard as flammable liquids.

Spray mists of flammable and combustible liquids in air may burn at any temperature if an ignition source is present. The vapours of flammable and combustible liquids are usually invisible. They can be hard to detect unless special instruments are used.

Most flammable and combustible liquids flow easily. A small spill can cover a large area of workbench or floor. Burning liquids can flow under doors, down stairs and even into neighbouring buildings, spreading fire widely. Materials like wood, cardboard and cloth can easily absorb flammable and combustible liquids. Even after a spill has been cleaned up, a dangerous amount of liquid could still remain in surrounding materials or clothing, giving off hazardous vapours.


http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/flammable/flam.html

CLASSES

Flammable and combustible liquids are divided into the following classes; based on flash points and boiling points. Flammable liquids are defined as those with flash points below 100 F and combustible liquids have flash points at or above 100 F. Flammable and combustible liquids are further subdivided into the following classes:

Class IA. Flash point below 73 F. Boiling point below 100 F. Examples include ethyl ether, and gasoline.

Class IB. Flash point below 73 F. Boiling point at or above 100 F. Examples include acetone, benzene, ethyl alcohol, isopropyl alcohol, methyl alcohol, toluene, and petroleum ether.

Class IC. Flash point at or above 73 F and below 100 F. Examples include xylene and turpentine.

Class II. Flash point at or above 100 F and below 140 F. Examples include kerosene, mineral spirits, and diesel fuel.


Very good, looks like you are actually learning something about diesel fuel. It is NOWHERE near as flammable/explosive as gasoline as you shills tried making it out to be. I don't need educated on diesel fuel, been working with it every day for the last 27 years.

And higgy, why the verbal attacks? Am i getting way too close to debunking you shills? I did notice that YOU side stepped my post that PROVES WTC1 fires as well as generators,transformers and diesel fuel inside of WTC7 COULD NOT have been what caused the explosions that Barry Jennings heard and witnessed. Tell me higgy, are you ready to admit yet that EXPLOSIVES as well as THERMITE were used to CONTROL DEMOLITION building 7

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8/4/2015 9:36:35 AM Baytown, TX  

srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,349)
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from class5:
Unlike you and the other Bottom Feeders, I always choose my debate wisely. Furthermore, I doubt you could teach me anything about the behaviour of liquids under pressure from heat expansion, or in a vapour state. (and yes, diesel will explode under those conditions).



I see you ALSO are side stepping the cause of the explosions in WTC7 since i have PROVED it COULD NOT have been fire, COULD NOT be exploding generators,COULD NOT be diesel fuel tanks exploding and COULD NOT be transformers exploding. Tell us genius, what COULD it be now?

8/4/2015 12:48:14 PM Baytown, TX  

57channels
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,098)
Bettendorf, IA
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tragic

And how about not attempting to exaggerate the "free fall" crapola. For example, the twin towers only collapsed at around 2/3 free fall whereas their inner cores collapsed last at only around 40% free fall. Doesn't say much for your controlled demo theory does it
=================================================
Exaggerating the free fall??? Oh...how cute of you to try and go on some phony a** fake offensive to back up the gooberments treason and mass murder.

You drop a baseball off the top of tower 1 or 2, it would take 10 seconds. Tower 1 or 2 each took around 11 seconds for the detonators to blow 90% of the towers all to dust or basically get rid of them. People all over NYC breathing in that dusticized asbestos that the military used the most powerful explosives know to mankind at that time. Mini nukes or micro nukes laced with thermite or thermate or stuff so powerful it blew support beams some 600 feet away.

8/4/2015 8:32:16 PM Baytown, TX  

srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,349)
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


@57,

Notice how the shills run and confer with their holy bible(the nist report) and other wannabe debunking sites when they are cornered and they have no facts to try debunking us?laughing::

Life is good when your fighting for the right side

8/4/2015 8:37:10 PM Baytown, TX  

srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,349)
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from 57channels:
tragic

And how about not attempting to exaggerate the "free fall" crapola. For example, the twin towers only collapsed at around 2/3 free fall whereas their inner cores collapsed last at only around 40% free fall. Doesn't say much for your controlled demo theory does it
=================================================
Exaggerating the free fall??? Oh...how cute of you to try and go on some phony a** fake offensive to back up the gooberments treason and mass murder.

You drop a baseball off the top of tower 1 or 2, it would take 10 seconds. Tower 1 or 2 each took around 11 seconds for the detonators to blow 90% of the towers all to dust or basically get rid of them. People all over NYC breathing in that dusticized asbestos that the military used the most powerful explosives know to mankind at that time. Mini nukes or micro nukes laced with thermite or thermate or stuff so powerful it blew support beams some 600 feet away.


57, just another shills lame attempt at making the controlled demolition of WTC1 and WTC2 seem less likely to be controlled demolition if they can FOOL US into believing the buildings came down less than freefall speed but we KNOW that they DID come down at FREEFALL speed

8/4/2015 8:45:56 PM Baytown, TX  

progrocknic
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (12,439)
Mount Arlington, NJ
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Quote from srv63:
57, just another shills lame attempt at making the controlled demolition of WTC1 and WTC2 seem less likely to be controlled demolition if they can FOOL US into believing the buildings came down less than freefall speed but we KNOW that they DID come down at FREEFALL speed


A controlled demolition won't collapse a building at freefall speed either. That would be physically impossible as there is resistance due to underlying structure. All you have to do is time the fall. Since the height of the buildings are known, then the duration of the collapse will tell us whether or not it fell at free fall speed. It didn't.

8/4/2015 8:59:56 PM Baytown, TX  

srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,349)
Baytown, TX
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@ The deceptive parrot,

In your comment:

"And how about not attempting to exaggerate the "free fall" crapola. For example, the twin towers only collapsed at around 2/3 free fall whereas their inner cores collapsed last at only around 40% free fall. Doesn't say much for your controlled demo theory does it "

As an average american relying mostly on common sense, i would have kept buying into the BULLSHIT governments official report of the (supposed) boeing 767's hitting the towers and the jet fuel (no different than diesel fuel) igniting causing fires that might possibly weaken the outer structure and floors of the top of each trade towers causing them to possibly (highly unlikely) collapse, but when you idiots and your idiotic government leaders push the impossible and expect us common americans to believe that a total of 47 steel columns in the center of each trade tower, each column measuring 4 foot wide by 3 foot deep and made of 4 inch thick steel plate, collapsed, even not at freefall speed, your asking the impossible for us to buy into that BULLSHIT. If them center colums by a miracle got that severely hot then to the most, they would have slightly bent over and as one unit came crashing down like a telephone pole and all in tact. To suggest otherwise is IDIOTIC.

Bet your a** that if all americans saw how huge these columns were, there would be no more americans sitting on the fence in the dark, they would be demanding public lynchings and that is why your jew media does its best to hide the size of the columns

8/4/2015 9:08:04 PM Baytown, TX  

srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,349)
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from progrocknic:
Quote from srv63:
57, just another shills lame attempt at making the controlled demolition of WTC1 and WTC2 seem less likely to be controlled demolition if they can FOOL US into believing the buildings came down less than freefall speed but we KNOW that they DID come down at FREEFALL speed


A controlled demolition won't collapse a building at freefall speed either. That would be physically impossible as there is resistance due to underlying structure. All you have to do is time the fall. Since the height of the buildings are known, then the duration of the collapse will tell us whether or not it fell at free fall speed. It didn't.


90% freefall speed is close enough to freefall speed for me, wannabe shill. So your an authority on whether or not a building was controlled demolition or not? I guess the experts that blow up buildings for a living were just lying to us then huh

8/4/2015 9:11:00 PM Baytown, TX  

progrocknic
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (12,439)
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Quote from srv63:
90% freefall speed is close enough to freefall speed for me


You literally just said we KNOW that they came down at freefall speed. Now you change your story. You're a f**king idiot.

8/4/2015 9:35:53 PM Baytown, TX  

tragicparrot
Over 1,000 Posts (1,657)
Painesville, OH
57, joined Mar. 2014


Quote from srv63:
@ The deceptive parrot,

In your comment:

"And how about not attempting to exaggerate the "free fall" crapola. For example, the twin towers only collapsed at around 2/3 free fall whereas their inner cores collapsed last at only around 40% free fall. Doesn't say much for your controlled demo theory does it "

As an average american relying mostly on common sense, i would have kept buying into the BULLSHIT governments official report of the (supposed) boeing 767's hitting the towers and the jet fuel (no different than diesel fuel) igniting causing fires that might possibly weaken the outer structure and floors of the top of each trade towers causing them to possibly (highly unlikely) collapse, but when you idiots and your idiotic government leaders push the impossible and expect us common americans to believe that a total of 47 steel columns in the center of each trade tower, each column measuring 4 foot wide by 3 foot deep and made of 4 inch thick steel plate, collapsed, even not at freefall speed, your asking the impossible for us to buy into that BULLSHIT. If them center colums by a miracle got that severely hot then to the most, they would have slightly bent over and as one unit came crashing down like a telephone pole and all in tact. To suggest otherwise is IDIOTIC.

Bet your a** that if all americans saw how huge these columns were, there would be no more americans sitting on the fence in the dark, they would be demanding public lynchings and that is why your jew media does its best to hide the size of the columns


I won't waste time explaining the supporting 47 columns as its quite clear the buildings did collapse. Common sense > Had high explosives and thermite been employed (as 57channels suggests) as a means of controlled demolition, both the nature of the collapses and their subsequent debris pile would of produced unquestionable evidence there had indeed been a controlled demolition by the evidence thereof. Evidence that neither you, 57channels, Louie or anyone else has yet to produce.

Free fall?

"Large chunks of rubble, which are in free fall, are clearly falling faster than the rest of the building. The base of the massive chunk lower left is, what, 20 storeys lower than the top of the right-hand corner of the building? (And there may be rubble below that, and the building may be intact higher higher still). This suggests we should be looking at a collapse time greater than our 9.22 second freefall figure, not less."



Linky...

http://www.911myths.com/html/freefall.html

8/4/2015 9:40:17 PM Baytown, TX  

srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,349)
Baytown, TX
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Quote from progrocknic:
Quote from srv63:
90% freefall speed is close enough to freefall speed for me


You literally just said we KNOW that they came down at freefall speed. Now you change your story. You're a f**king idiot.


And you failed again, shill in training. If i'm an idiot then maybe you can explain what caused the explosions in WTC7 mr nologic

8/4/2015 10:26:34 PM Baytown, TX  

tragicparrot
Over 1,000 Posts (1,657)
Painesville, OH
57, joined Mar. 2014


Quote from srv63:
And you failed again, shill in training. If i'm an idiot then maybe you can explain what caused the explosions in WTC7 mr nologic


Why the hell should anyone but you explain what caused the explosions in WTC7? After all, you laid claim it was a controlled demolition, so then prove it already.

8/4/2015 10:51:26 PM Baytown, TX  

srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,349)
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from tragicparrot:
I won't waste time explaining the supporting 47 columns as its quite clear the buildings did collapse. Common sense > Had high explosives and thermite been employed (as 57channels suggests) as a means of controlled demolition, both the nature of the collapses and their subsequent debris pile would of produced unquestionable evidence there had indeed been a controlled demolition by the evidence thereof. Evidence that neither you, 57channels, Louie or anyone else has yet to produce.

Free fall?

"Large chunks of rubble, which are in free fall, are clearly falling faster than the rest of the building. The base of the massive chunk lower left is, what, 20 storeys lower than the top of the right-hand corner of the building? (And there may be rubble below that, and the building may be intact higher higher still). This suggests we should be looking at a collapse time greater than our 9.22 second freefall figure, not less."



Linky...

http://www.911myths.com/html/freefall.html



No evidence of molten steel you say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7S9bnd_pnY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d5iIoCiI8g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ddR5D_lmOk


Do you need more?

8/4/2015 10:53:51 PM Baytown, TX  

srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,349)
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from tragicparrot:
Why the hell should anyone but you explain what caused the explosions in WTC7? After all, you laid claim it was a controlled demolition, so then prove it already.


Problem is that i already have PROVED WTC7 was a controlled demolition, unless YOU of course can PROVE otherwise.

8/4/2015 10:56:53 PM Baytown, TX  

tragicparrot
Over 1,000 Posts (1,657)
Painesville, OH
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Quote from srv63:
Problem is that i already have PROVED WTC7 was a controlled demolition, unless YOU of course can PROVE otherwise.


Where? And what happened to your free fall claim? Your not changing the subject are you srv63?

8/4/2015 11:36:59 PM Baytown, TX  

srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,349)
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from tragicparrot:
Where? And what happened to your free fall claim? Your not changing the subject are you srv63?


Changing subjects is a tactic only used by deceptive shills. We were talking about the free fall speed that all three towers came down as they were brought down by controlled demolition but then YOU changed the subject by answering a question which i directed at your shill in training.Nice try at your attempt of making me look like a deceptive snake like your fellow shills,but again no cigar.

Are you still stumped on what new excuses your going to use to try explaining the explosions that were heard and experienced by Barry Jennings inside of WTC7 ? Since i already PROVED you shills wrong on fire, transformers, generators and diesel fuel, what is left? Could it be possible that the explosions were from charges rigged up by the same demolition crew that rigged up both WTC1 and WTC2 to blow out the main supports so that the building could come down into its own footprint? Seems to me that is the only option left, wouldn't you say?

8/5/2015 12:03:29 AM Baytown, TX  

srv63
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Baytown, TX
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Quote from progrocknic:
Quote from srv63:
90% freefall speed is close enough to freefall speed for me


You literally just said we KNOW that they came down at freefall speed. Now you change your story. You're a f**king idiot.


Btw dipshit,

I'm not the one giving my b*tch a free pass to f**k any and all guys within driving distance, and then settle for whatever sloppy assed seconds she decides to give me.Take a look in the mirror if your looking for idiots, mr genius

8/5/2015 12:56:59 AM Baytown, TX  
higgy51
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Navarro, CA
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Quote from progrocknic:
Quote from srv63:
90% freefall speed is close enough to freefall speed for me


You literally just said we KNOW that they came down at freefall speed. Now you change your story. You're a f**king idiot.


He is so unreal. He changes his story EVERY time he gets debunked, unreal.

8/5/2015 1:01:58 AM Baytown, TX  
higgy51
Over 2,000 Posts (3,362)
Navarro, CA
61, joined Nov. 2012


Quote from srv63:


And higgy, why the verbal attacks? Am i getting way too close to debunking you shills? I did notice that YOU side stepped my post that PROVES WTC1 fires as well as generators,transformers and diesel fuel inside of WTC7 COULD NOT have been what caused the explosions that Barry Jennings heard and witnessed. Tell me higgy, are you ready to admit yet that EXPLOSIVES as well as THERMITE were used to CONTROL DEMOLITION building 7



One: You have not a chance in hell of debunking anyone. To do that, one needs FACTS and LOGIC. You are devoid of BOTH.

Two: Verbal attacks? Pot, Kettle, Black.

Three: Fact, only Jennings heard explosions, fact, Hess is on record to say he didn't hear any explosions.

Four: Am I ready to accept explosives and thermite caused the collapse? DO I LOOK THAT STUPID? You haven't provided ANY evidence to say that they were used.

8/5/2015 1:02:13 AM Baytown, TX  

class5
Over 1,000 Posts (1,977)
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Australia
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Quote from srv63:
Can you PROVE that they didn't?


It's your claim, so back it up. You shouldn't have be told by now.



8/5/2015 1:05:42 AM Baytown, TX  

class5
Over 1,000 Posts (1,977)
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Quote from srv63:
We were talking about the free fall speed that all three towers came down as they were brought down by controlled demolition


More lies.

No, the twins did not collapse anywhere near free-fall, and speeds in excess of free-fall were only noted on 7WTC for 2.25 seconds at the 12 second mark into the collapse.

Can you explain why a speed IN EXCESS of free-fall was recorded?

I can, but can you?




8/5/2015 1:07:03 AM Baytown, TX  

class5
Over 1,000 Posts (1,977)
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Australia
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Quote from higgy51:
He is so unreal. He changes his story EVERY time he gets debunked, unreal.


Yep, he shifts the goal posts every time. He's just a lying and mendacious piece of shit.



8/5/2015 1:09:49 AM Baytown, TX  

class5
Over 1,000 Posts (1,977)
Queensland
Australia
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Quote from srv63:
I see you ALSO are side stepping the cause of the explosions in WTC7 since i have PROVED it COULD NOT have been fire, COULD NOT be exploding generators,COULD NOT be diesel fuel tanks exploding and COULD NOT be transformers exploding. Tell us genius, what COULD it be now?


No, I'm not side-stepping anything, and you have PROVED no such thing. I'm still waiting for evidence to support your timeline and I bet that won't be forthcoming anytime soon.

Why do experts disagree with a welder? Think about it.



8/5/2015 1:11:39 AM Baytown, TX  

class5
Over 1,000 Posts (1,977)
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Australia
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Quote from srv63:
@57,

Notice how the shills run and confer with their holy bible(the nist report) and other wannabe debunking sites when they are cornered and they have no facts to try debunking us?laughing::

Life is good when your fighting for the right side


The NIST report is THE hypothesis. You cannot disprove it. Hell you haven't even read it.

Look up 'Null hypothesis' and learn something for once in your waste of a life.

Until someone can disprove the NIST report conclusively, it still stands whether you like it or not, and you're not about to do that anytime soon either. You don't know the details well enough to comment on it.





[Edited 8/5/2015 1:12:24 AM ]

8/5/2015 1:15:54 AM Baytown, TX  

class5
Over 1,000 Posts (1,977)
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Australia
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The following is a comparison graph of four smoothing techniques applied during the modelling process:



Note how free-fall was EXCEEDED for 1.5 seconds. Can 9/11 truth explain this? I wonder if the Feebles have the stones AND the knowledge to address this.



8/5/2015 1:22:24 AM Baytown, TX  

class5
Over 1,000 Posts (1,977)
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Australia
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Why do truthers still flog the 'footprint' meme when it clearly isn't true?



They obviously are just following the script without looking.



8/5/2015 6:29:22 AM Baytown, TX  

progrocknic
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (12,439)
Mount Arlington, NJ
31, joined Dec. 2012


Quote from srv63:
Btw dipshit,

I'm not the one giving my b*tch a free pass to f**k any and all guys within driving distance, and then settle for whatever sloppy assed seconds she decides to give me.Take a look in the mirror if your looking for idiots, mr genius


The only guy she f**ks is me. You don't have a b*tch because you are a b*tch. But since all you are is a moronic troll, I can understand how you would to change the subject to distract from the fact that your story keeps changing. Why? Because you're a troll.

8/5/2015 6:41:55 AM Baytown, TX  

srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,349)
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from higgy51:
One: You have not a chance in hell of debunking anyone. To do that, one needs FACTS and LOGIC. You are devoid of BOTH.

Two: Verbal attacks? Pot, Kettle, Black.

Three: Fact, only Jennings heard explosions, fact, Hess is on record to say he didn't hear any explosions.

Four: Am I ready to accept explosives and thermite caused the collapse? DO I LOOK THAT STUPID? You haven't provided ANY evidence to say that they were used.


With the PROOF AND LOGIC that i just provided, anyone with half of a brain would agree that, YOU HAVE BEEN DEBUNKED

8/5/2015 6:44:32 AM Baytown, TX  

srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,349)
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52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from class5:
It's your claim, so back it up. You shouldn't have be told by now.



What's wrong shill? Have you ran out of excuses to have caused the explosions? Consider yourself DEBUNKED as well

8/5/2015 6:56:39 AM Baytown, TX  

srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,349)
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from class5:
No, I'm not side-stepping anything, and you have PROVED no such thing. I'm still waiting for evidence to support your timeline and I bet that won't be forthcoming anytime soon.

Why do experts disagree with a welder? Think about it.



I have already PROVED my timeline and PROVED the FACTS.Just like your buddy higgy, you will go down kicking and screaming

As far as your "experts", it's funny that the Truther movement have a hell of allot more experts than your "paid off experts" and your wannabe experts have NOTHING to PROVE their bullshit logic. Experts?

8/5/2015 7:45:17 AM Baytown, TX  

tragicparrot
Over 1,000 Posts (1,657)
Painesville, OH
57, joined Mar. 2014


Quote from srv63:
I have already PROVED my timeline and PROVED the FACTS.Just like your buddy higgy, you will go down kicking and screaming

As far as your "experts", it's funny that the Truther movement have a hell of allot more experts than your "paid off experts" and your wannabe experts have NOTHING to PROVE their bullshit logic. Experts?


You are one sick puppy srv63, especially when you entered in another persons intimate life when that had absolutely nothing to do with what happened at 911. And no, you haven't proved a darned thing. Nothing. Notta. Most if not all the truther based websites you've culled the so called "facts" from, have continued to lose their popularity due to the fact they operate only upon mere speculation, and a shit load deceitful practices only a con artist could be proud of.

Good summary of "truthers"...

Truther beliefs amount to political fiction written by insecure f*ggots who want an excuse to hate authority, to feel superior to people who don't believe in their idiotic filth, and who probably fap to posters of Neo from the Matrix. The reason they fail hard is they expect their foolishness to be taken seriously, leading to a classic case of unwarranted self importance. The most advanced sufferers of this delusion metaphorically (and physically) have their head so far up their own a** they can see out their own mouth, accusing others of being stupid for not accepting their idiotic theories, and insisting that their fictional view of reality is correct.
Truther's are several rungs below Scientologists, people who believe that gray aliens with big black eyes are being covered up by the government, and people who think they are want to be vampires. Given their delusional beliefs, they are in very good company with the mentally retarded and the general population of /b/ (significant overlap between those groups amirite? [ No, uamrong ]).
This conspiracy theory has spawned a subculture on the internet, with the result that the viral idea that terrorism is fake and instead the us government is complicit in 9/11 has spread to infect the moron population of the internet (at least 70% at risk of infection, based on numbers I made up). This means it's important to let truthers know they are failures, to try to save them. Of course, they're usually too stupid to save and would probably just find something else to believe in anyway, so it's probably not worth the time.
The truther mentality is similar to that of the mother of Ronald McNair, one of the astronauts killed in the Challenger disaster, who was convinced until the day she died that her son had survived the disaster and was alive on an island. This shows how the mind can embrace a lie to avoid acknowledging painful realities.

Quote from Ronald McNair's mom...

""Ronald is still alive. He's a good swimmer, a smart boy. He fell into that ocean and swam to an island somewhere. They'll find him someday.""

8/5/2015 9:34:07 AM Baytown, TX  
higgy51
Over 2,000 Posts (3,362)
Navarro, CA
61, joined Nov. 2012


Quote from srv63:
Can you PROVE that they didn't?


I don't have to prove that they did or didn't..YOU have said that there were 'explosions' via the testimony of Jennings, yet his 'partner in crime' Hess has stated (as proven to you) that he heard NO exposions.

YOU have maintained that these so called explosions took place at 9.25, before the fall of the towers.

Hess said he heard no explosions and he was next to Jennings...so were is your proof that there were any explosions and at the time frame you stipulated?



[Edited 8/5/2015 9:34:49 AM ]

8/5/2015 9:37:57 AM Baytown, TX  
higgy51
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Quote from srv63:
With the PROOF AND LOGIC that i just provided, anyone with half of a brain would agree that, YOU HAVE BEEN DEBUNKED


What proof about explosives and thermite have you produced?

YOUR WORD only is not proof!

O am not gonna touch the logic comment, you stating you have that is laughable enough as it is.

8/5/2015 1:03:43 PM Baytown, TX  

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Which one of the 3 kiddies [ cl-ASS, higgy, or tragic ] collected 1 million dollars from proving that explosives were NOT used to bring down the towers????? May the real new millionaire please stand up.........surely the 3 kiddie experts proved to Jimmy Walter that fire brought down the WTC.
============================================================

Reopen 9/11 campaign[edit]
Walter began a series of advertisements about the September 11, 2001 attacks in October 2004, which included full page ads in the New York Times and Wall Street Journal, and 30 second cable television spots on CNN, Fox News, and ESPN. They implied that no plane flew in to The Pentagon, and that 7 World Trade Center was brought down by internal explosives. They called for a new investigation into what happened on September 11, and referred viewers to the website reopen911.org.[7][15] In conjunction with the campaign, Walter sponsored an October 2004 Zogby poll, which found that 66% of New York City residents wanted a fuller investigation of the events of September 11.[16]

Walter's theory is that the hijacked planes were replaced by remote controlled drones that were crashed into the World Trade Center and Pentagon,[17] while the buildings were brought down by preset explosives,[4] to create a pretext for the war in Afghanistan and 2003 invasion of Iraq.[17] At the web site, Walter offered a US$10,000 reward for a mathematical proof of how the World Trade Center buildings collapsed from the fire and impact, the way the 9/11 Commission said.[4][18] By 2005, the reward had grown to $1,000,000 for proof that explosives were not used in the collapse of the World Trade Center.[5]

On November 10, and November 11, 2004, Walter appeared on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360°, where he debated journalist Gerald Posner about the claims made by the campaign.[16][18] On May 9, 2005, Walter was featured on the "Conspiracy Theories" episode of Showtime cable television program Penn & Teller: Bullshit!,[19]

As of December 2004, Walter estimated the total cost of the campaign at more than $3 million;[4][15] by December 2005 it rose to $5.5 million.[1]

In May 2005, Walter financed European tours of speaking engagements for William Rodriguez and his lawyer in the Rodriguez v. Bush lawsuit, Philip Berg.[20] Rodriguez claims that he saved hundreds of people in the World Trade Center who were trapped behind locked fire escape doors.[citation needed]

In 2006, Walter traveled to Malaysia with Rodriguez, appearing at a conference with Michael Collins Piper. Rodriguez and Walter also traveled to Venezuela.[21]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Walter

8/5/2015 1:41:14 PM Baytown, TX  

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Now we have the President of the U.S. saying that he saw the 1st plane hit the WTC---saying that must have been one bad pilot or inept pilot....when there was no live coverage at all. WHEN THERE WAS NO LIVE COVERAGE AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://youtu.be/2fxKnm310lE

8/5/2015 9:21:24 PM Baytown, TX  

srv63
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Quote from tragicparrot:
You are one sick puppy srv63, especially when you entered in another persons intimate life when that had absolutely nothing to do with what happened at 911.

If any of you shills, especially a dumb assed wannabe shill, attacks me by suggesting that i'm an idiot when i have the FACTS as well as common sense and at times your dumb assed nist report on my side, then that dumb assed shill better be prepared to be attacked both intellectually as well as personally

QUOTE:
And no, you haven't proved a darned thing. Nothing. Notta. Most if not all the truther based websites you've culled the so called "facts" from, have continued to lose their popularity due to the fact they operate only upon mere speculation, and a shit load deceitful practices only a con artist could be proud of.

For your information, to this day i have NEVER been to any truther websites to see what they have to say. I have twisted all of you shills panties into a knot solely with info that i have gathered from youtube videos as well as some of the youtube videos that you shills have posted.Can you imagine what kind of knots i could put in you shills panties if i go to the truther sites for information? I believe it's just about that time tho

Good summary of "truthers"...

Truther beliefs amount to political fiction written by insecure f*ggots who want an excuse to hate authority, to feel superior to people who don't believe in their idiotic filth, and who probably fap to posters of Neo from the Matrix. The reason they fail hard is they expect their foolishness to be taken seriously, leading to a classic case of unwarranted self importance. The most advanced sufferers of this delusion metaphorically (and physically) have their head so far up their own a** they can see out their own mouth, accusing others of being stupid for not accepting their idiotic theories, and insisting that their fictional view of reality is correct.
Truther's are several rungs below Scientologists, people who believe that gray aliens with big black eyes are being covered up by the government, and people who think they are want to be vampires. Given their delusional beliefs, they are in very good company with the mentally retarded and the general population of /b/ (significant overlap between those groups amirite? [ No, uamrong ]).
This conspiracy theory has spawned a subculture on the internet, with the result that the viral idea that terrorism is fake and instead the us government is complicit in 9/11 has spread to infect the moron population of the internet (at least 70% at risk of infection, based on numbers I made up). This means it's important to let truthers know they are failures, to try to save them. Of course, they're usually too stupid to save and would probably just find something else to believe in anyway, so it's probably not worth the time.
The truther mentality is similar to that of the mother of Ronald McNair, one of the astronauts killed in the Challenger disaster, who was convinced until the day she died that her son had survived the disaster and was alive on an island. This shows how the mind can embrace a lie to avoid acknowledging painful realities.

Quote from Ronald McNair's mom...

""Ronald is still alive. He's a good swimmer, a smart boy. He fell into that ocean and swam to an island somewhere. They'll find him someday.""


I believe all the garbage spewed in the crap above are just rants from a closet homo having a identity crisis

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8/5/2015 9:29:11 PM Baytown, TX  

longbobby
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Quote from srv63:
I believe all the garbage spewed in the crap above are just rants from a closet homo having a identity crisis

..


The jewish community here does tend to suffer from things like that. They don't like to talk about it but ....

Israeli and American scientists have discovered a gene among Ashkenazi Jews that increases their chances of developing the mental disorder schizophrenia, as well schizoaffective disorder and manic depression. According to a study recently published in Nature Communications, the gene in question raises Ashkenazi Jews’ chances of experiencing the disorders by roughly 40%, and by 15% in the general population.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/.premium-1.560128



8/5/2015 9:31:03 PM Baytown, TX  

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Quote from higgy51:
I don't have to prove that they did or didn't..YOU have said that there were 'explosions' via the testimony of Jennings, yet his 'partner in crime' Hess has stated (as proven to you) that he heard NO exposions.

YOU have maintained that these so called explosions took place at 9.25, before the fall of the towers.

Hess said he heard no explosions and he was next to Jennings...so were is your proof that there were any explosions and at the time frame you stipulated?


So, with all of the eyewitnesses being murdered because of 9/11 and the FACT that HESS was with Barry Jennings almost the whole time while in and trapped in building 7 but yet he is afraid to tell his truthful side of his story on what he eyewitnessed for fear of being murdered as well, that automatically voids Mr Barry Jennings testimony of accounts? You shills are getting REAL DESPERATE if you think this will save your asses. I say let's put it to a vote to a jury and see what they believe. GUARANTEED you shills will be packing with a size 12 boot in your asses

8/5/2015 9:37:35 PM Baytown, TX  

srv63
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Quote from higgy51:
What proof about explosives and thermite have you produced?

YOUR WORD only is not proof!

O am not gonna touch the logic comment, you stating you have that is laughable enough as it is.


What PROOF of explosives do i have? EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY of Barry Jennings when the stairwell EXPLODED out from underneath his feet.

I have SATELLITE IMAGES of the WTC7 rubble that had SUPER HOT MOLTEN STEEL under the rubble 2 WEEKS AFTER 9/11. Would you like to see shill?

8/5/2015 11:25:01 PM Baytown, TX  

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Quote from srv63:
What's wrong shill? Have you ran out of excuses to have caused the explosions? Consider yourself DEBUNKED as well


LOLOL, you haven't debunked anything and you haven't provided supporting evidence for ANY of your stupid claims. You're just a light-weight and as such, just low hanging fruit, Moron.



8/5/2015 11:27:25 PM Baytown, TX  

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Quote from srv63:
I have already PROVED my timeline and PROVED the FACTS.Just like your buddy higgy, you will go down kicking and screaming.


LOL, you have an overactive imagination. You provided evidence for absolutely nothing as usual.

Your word is worthless to me as you are a compulsive liar.


As far as your "experts", it's funny that the Truther movement have a hell of allot more experts than your "paid off experts" and your wannabe experts have NOTHING to PROVE their bullshit logic. Experts?


Now that had to be a joke. What a load of schoolboy shit.


8/6/2015 12:31:46 AM Baytown, TX  
higgy51
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Quote from srv63:
So, with all of the eyewitnesses being murdered because of 9/11 and the FACT that HESS was with Barry Jennings almost the whole time while in and trapped in building 7 but yet he is afraid to tell his truthful side of his story on what he eyewitnessed for fear of being murdered as well, that automatically voids Mr Barry Jennings testimony of accounts? You shills are getting REAL DESPERATE if you think this will save your asses. I say let's put it to a vote to a jury and see what they believe. GUARANTEED you shills will be packing with a size 12 boot in your asses


Why don't you answer the questiojn instead of going on some moroni rant?

The questions was:

YOU have maintained that these so called explosions took place at 9.25, before the fall of the towers.

Hess said he heard no explosions and he was next to Jennings...so were is your proof that there were any explosions and at the time frame you stipulated?

Show me the time frame of Jennings saying he heard the explosions, the time that they occurred.

No more insane and irrelevant rants, it matters not if he is dead or gone to live on Mars in the witness program.

8/6/2015 12:35:44 AM Baytown, TX  

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Quote from higgy51
Why don't you answer the questiojn instead of going on some moroni rant?
Quote from higgy51:
I don't have to prove that they did or didn't

The questions was:
Quote from higgy51:
I don't have to prove that they did or didn't

YOU have maintained that these so called explosions took place at 9.25, before the fall of the towers.
Quote from higgy51:
I don't have to prove that they did or didn't

Hess said he heard no explosions and he was next to Jennings...so were is your proof that there were any explosions and at the time frame you stipulated?
Quote from higgy51:
I don't have to prove that they did or didn't

Show me the time frame of Jennings saying he heard the explosions, the time that they occurred.
Quote from higgy51:
I don't have to prove that they did or didn't

No more insane and irrelevant rants, it matters not if he is dead or gone to live on Mars in the witness program.
Quote from higgy51:
I don't have to prove that they did or didn't

-----------------------------------------------------------

Typical Zio "logic" ...DEMANDING people "prove" this or that while at the same time maintaining.....I don't have to prove that they did or didn't

While ALWAYS using the jewish communist, 25 Rules of Disinformation, Rule #19.

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the “play dumb” rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon). In order to completely avoid discussing issues may require you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.



[Edited 8/6/2015 12:37:49 AM ]

8/6/2015 12:46:22 AM Baytown, TX  

class5
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Quote from srv63:

I have SATELLITE IMAGES of the WTC7 rubble that had SUPER HOT MOLTEN STEEL under the rubble 2 WEEKS AFTER 9/11. Would you like to see shill?


I've seen them and they are not pics of SUPER HOT MOLTEN STEEL. You really tell some lies don't you? All the NASA images show is the heat signature of the rubble pile. You have no method of determining whether it was 'SUPER HOT MOLTEN STEEL'. That is just a fantasy.

Just another bogus claim without evidence as usual.



8/6/2015 12:47:36 AM Baytown, TX  
higgy51
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Quote from srv63:
What PROOF of explosives do i have? EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY of Barry Jennings when the stairwell EXPLODED out from underneath his feet.

I have SATELLITE IMAGES of the WTC7 rubble that had SUPER HOT MOLTEN STEEL under the rubble 2 WEEKS AFTER 9/11. Would you like to see shill?


I have eyewitness testimony that there were NO explosions....so where does that leaves us?

What I want is the TIME FRAME of these explosions...T I M E F R A M E

Why would I want to see a photo, obviously photo-shopped by conspiracy nutcases, showing your super hot molten steel? How you KNOW is is SUPER HOT is a miracle though, how you can tell that from a satellite imagery is miraculous!

8/6/2015 12:49:35 AM Baytown, TX  

class5
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Quote from higgy51:
Why don't you answer the questiojn instead of going on some moroni rant?

The questions was:

YOU have maintained that these so called explosions took place at 9.25, before the fall of the towers.

Hess said he heard no explosions and he was next to Jennings...so were is your proof that there were any explosions and at the time frame you stipulated?

Show me the time frame of Jennings saying he heard the explosions, the time that they occurred.

No more insane and irrelevant rants, it matters not if he is dead or gone to live on Mars in the witness program.


So, you noticed that he avoids 'the hard stuff' by going on the attack as well?

What a man's man. LOLOL




8/6/2015 12:52:04 AM Baytown, TX  
higgy51
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Quote from class5:
So, you noticed that he avoids 'the hard stuff' by going on the attack as well?

What a man's man. LOLOL




I had a good laugh at the satellite images of SUPER HOT molten steel!!!

He often fails to answer questions doesn't he? He twists more than Chubby Checker ever did.

8/6/2015 12:52:19 AM Baytown, TX  

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Quote from higgy51
I have eyewitness testimony that there were NO explosions....so where does that leaves us?

What I want is the TIME FRAME of these explosions...T I M E F R A M E

Why would I want to see a photo, obviously photo-shopped by conspiracy nutcases, showing your super hot molten steel? How you KNOW is is SUPER HOT is a miracle though, how you can tell that from a satellite imagery is miraculous!
==========================================================

Typical Zio "logic" ...DEMANDING people "prove" this or that while at the same time maintaining.....I don't have to prove that they did or didn't.

While ALWAYS using the jewish communist, 25 Rules of Disinformation, in this case, Rule #19.

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the “play dumb” rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon). In order to completely avoid discussing issues may require you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

8/6/2015 12:53:43 AM Baytown, TX  

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Quote from higgy51:
I had a good laugh at the satellite images of SUPER HOT molten steel!!!

He often fails to answer questions doesn't he? He twists more than Chubby Checker ever did.




He never supplies a shred of supporting evidence for his claims and everytime I check I catch him lying.

Too easy...





[Edited 8/6/2015 12:54:56 AM ]

8/6/2015 12:57:13 AM Baytown, TX  

class5
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And to embarrass 9/11 truth yet again, I repost this image:



"Fell in their own footprint", huh?



8/6/2015 12:58:24 AM Baytown, TX  
higgy51
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I see the gay boy is posting his usual repetitive rants

He'll soon be blocked by me again, he never brings anything to the table except jew bashing and irrelevant rants...but then again, gays like him like to be on a rant.

8/6/2015 1:01:12 AM Baytown, TX  

longbobby
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The Jewing INTENSIFIES !

8/6/2015 1:01:37 AM Baytown, TX  

class5
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Quote from higgy51:
I see the gay boy is posting his usual repetitive rants

He'll soon be blocked by me again, he never brings anything to the table except jew bashing and irrelevant rants...but then again, gays like him like to be on a rant.


Who is the gay boy? Russell57?

8/6/2015 1:04:58 AM Baytown, TX  
higgy51
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Longbobby...the gay jewboy himself

8/6/2015 1:08:19 AM Baytown, TX  

class5
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Quote from higgy51:
Longbobby...the gay jewboy himself


Oh well, no loss there. He never has anything of merit.

8/6/2015 1:10:29 AM Baytown, TX  

longbobby
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)

8/6/2015 12:21:41 PM Baytown, TX  

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Which one of the 3 kiddies [ cl-ASS, higgy, or tragic ] collected 1 million dollars from proving that explosives were NOT used to bring down the towers????? May the real new millionaire please stand up.........surely the 3 kiddie experts proved to Jimmy Walter that fire brought down the WTC.
============================================================

Reopen 9/11 campaign[edit]
Walter began a series of advertisements about the September 11, 2001 attacks in October 2004, which included full page ads in the New York Times and Wall Street Journal, and 30 second cable television spots on CNN, Fox News, and ESPN. They implied that no plane flew in to The Pentagon, and that 7 World Trade Center was brought down by internal explosives. They called for a new investigation into what happened on September 11, and referred viewers to the website reopen911.org.[7][15] In conjunction with the campaign, Walter sponsored an October 2004 Zogby poll, which found that 66% of New York City residents wanted a fuller investigation of the events of September 11.[16]

Walter's theory is that the hijacked planes were replaced by remote controlled drones that were crashed into the World Trade Center and Pentagon,[17] while the buildings were brought down by preset explosives,[4] to create a pretext for the war in Afghanistan and 2003 invasion of Iraq.[17] At the web site, Walter offered a US$10,000 reward for a mathematical proof of how the World Trade Center buildings collapsed from the fire and impact, the way the 9/11 Commission said.[4][18] By 2005, the reward had grown to $1,000,000 for proof that explosives were not used in the collapse of the World Trade Center.[5]

On November 10, and November 11, 2004, Walter appeared on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360°, where he debated journalist Gerald Posner about the claims made by the campaign.[16][18] On May 9, 2005, Walter was featured on the "Conspiracy Theories" episode of Showtime cable television program Penn & Teller: Bullshit!,[19]

As of December 2004, Walter estimated the total cost of the campaign at more than $3 million;[4][15] by December 2005 it rose to $5.5 million.[1]

In May 2005, Walter financed European tours of speaking engagements for William Rodriguez and his lawyer in the Rodriguez v. Bush lawsuit, Philip Berg.[20] Rodriguez claims that he saved hundreds of people in the World Trade Center who were trapped behind locked fire escape doors.[citation needed]

In 2006, Walter traveled to Malaysia with Rodriguez, appearing at a conference with Michael Collins Piper. Rodriguez and Walter also traveled to Venezuela.[21]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Walter

8/6/2015 12:25:37 PM Baytown, TX  
higgy51
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Quote from class5:
Oh well, no loss there. He never has anything of merit.


I hate blocking, but at times, it needs to be done.

8/6/2015 1:08:27 PM Baytown, TX  

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By 2005, the reward had grown to $1,000,000 for proof that explosives were not used in the collapse of the World Trade Center.[5]
=====================================================================
Cmon kids.........which one of you collected the 1 million dollas??? Surely you experts could have proved that no explosives were used to collapse the WTC??? Whats wrong kids??????? Was it a 3 way split???

Gee......a Patriot putting his money where his mouth is...and couldn't get the time of day here in fascist America.

8/6/2015 1:54:29 PM Baytown, TX  

longbobby
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Looks like higgy51 whined about ME blocking HIM and then decided...oh, what the hell, everybody knows I'm full of shit anyway,... and then blocked ME !









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